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is upgrading kernel a must for froyo?

Hi all,
Just my thought, is upgrading kernel a must for froyo? If that possible maybe we can upgrade froyo even bootloader is locked.
For example, my ubuntu 10.04 run well using kernel from 9.10

By technicality, no, a new kernel is not required to get most of the changed applications to run on Eclair, though, your forgetting what Froyo was. It was a optimization release, and therefore the kernel was changed heavily and modified extensively to improve performance and stability. That and it has a completely different version of JIT running on it. Basically, if you want Froyo in all of its goodness, your going to need to change the kernel, which is impossible right now. Just sit back and wait for the update.

I'm no Linux expert, but isn't it possible that many of the features that we're looking forward to in Froyo (such as the increased speed, stability and other system-level tweaks) are actually part of the kernel?
Sure, parts like Apps2SD or tethering might be ported without the whole kernel, but I'm guessing that the kernel modifications play a big part in making Froyo Froyo...

DarkOne951 said:
Basically, if you want Froyo in all of its goodness, your going to need to change the kernel, which is impossible right now. Just sit back and wait for the update.
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Okay i will sit back and wait
Thinking about future version of android, where our milestone will be left behind

Overclocking the Stock Rom on Heroc

I like the stock ROM because it works. I think all I really need is root access and overclocking to have a good fast phone. What would be the best kernel to use with it if all I want is overclocking? Is not having a custom ROM a stupid idea?

Here's your ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267
It's basically the stock Sprint 2.1 ROM that's been de-odexed. I use it and am plenty happy. If you like the stock Hero look and feel, then you'll be plenty happy with this ROM.
I'm also using an overclock kernel. You can use the SetCPU app (available for free elsewhere on this site) to fine-tune your max and min CPU clock speeds.
Here's a link to a whole family of overclock kernels, some of which were cooked up specifically to work well with the above-mentioned ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
I've been using the regular 710mhz version of kernel listed for that ROM, but yesterday I loaded the 710mhz undervolt version just to see if my battery life would benefit any. Not that my battery life is a problem at all, though...in fact I've been getting GREAT battery life with the regular 710 mhz kernel I was running before.

I am using the same Rom but I seem to have issues with the OC kernels specifically for the Rom. I use the DarchHoneyOCV3 kernel and do not seem to have any issue with that one.

Tibedabeeto said:
I am using the same Rom but I seem to have issues with the OC kernels specifically for the Rom. I use the DarchHoneyOCV3 kernel and do not seem to have any issue with that one.
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That's the same kernel I was using before I went to the UV 710mhz for nfinitefx45...DarchHoneyOCV3 is a good kernel for sure, can't find fault with it.
Forgot to mention in my previous post, the reason I recommend the nfinitefx45 ROM is because it includes apps2sd, which lets you put your apps on the sd card and frees up active RAM (hope I stated that correctly). I never worry about running out of memory any more. And for all intents and purposes, it looks, feels and acts just like the factory Sprint 2.1 release. When you're done with the install, just use your phone like it was completely factory stock (only faster and smoother) if that's what makes you happy. On the other hand, if you want you can install the SetCPU app and tweak it however you want.
Don't be afraid to take the plunge, parrothead. You'll be in good company. And you almost can't go wrong going with the same combination Tibedabeeto did, as long as you can follow simple directions (I know I should put a disclaimer in there somewhere, LOL).

Which Gingerbread for my Nexus - Please?

Hi,
i am new to Nexus One Android Development and i am a bit confused.
There are so many Gingerbread ROMs out there and i cannot decide.
I firstly wanted to install MoDaCos Sense Build but that is buggy for me - so now i want Gingerbread on my N1.
Unfortunately there are CM7 based/stock ones/google AOSP's/GRI40s/2.3.2's/2.2.3's/pure google mods/OFIICIALS/Devs onlys etc. - Versions!
Can anyone be so kind to filtrate that a bit?
This shouldn't be a "Best GB-BUILD"-Thread - I just want a clean and stable Gingerbread running with my purchased launcherpro plus!
I don't want it bleading edge, but fast and stable!
Which one of the thousands out there should i run on my N1?

Hi bunnahabhain,
I have tried various gingerbread roms, most have had some annoying bugs like hspda freezing, random FCs. The one that works the best for me is the CM7 RC2 which is the equivalent of Gingerbread 2.3.3. It is yet to bug out on me and it runs very smooth. In fact i havent had to restart the phone since I installed the rom. Surprisingly it also takes less space on the phone then most roms I've tried.
Hope this helps. It is bleeding edge but it is very smooth and hasn't been buggy at all for me.

I am using the stock gignerbread, with launcher pro plus/setcpu and automatic task killer.
It runs very well, no crashes, no bugs, it's fast, I sugest you do the same.

Add a poll to thread and list available options for people to vote?

DONE - 8 by number
just chose the most favorite ones

Stock/Official/Vanilla are the same. Just what the names suggest really.
Cyanogenmod is by far the most widely used custom ROM. Many of the others are based off this, with various alterations being made to them. Close to Stock appearance but feature filled and very fast. Version 7 is in development now and two of the polled ROMS are in fact from this development.
There have been two Release Candidates which are considered 'stable', and there are ongoing 'Nightly' builds, (experimental), but which are really just a daily evolution of the development. As it stands the latest Nightly builds are very stable, very fast and well worth trying.

I am on this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968396
Modified GRI40 (2.3.3 Gingerbread) ROM*
Rooted, De-odexed, Busybox, Apps2SD, Cache2SD, ZipAligned, Disabled Stock Recovery
THE BEST ROOM EVER ! No WONK !

m_mitashki said:
I am on this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968396
Modified GRI40 (2.3.3 Gingerbread) ROM*
Rooted, De-odexed, Busybox, Apps2SD, Cache2SD, ZipAligned, Disabled Stock Recovery
THE BEST ROOM EVER ! No WONK !
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Trackball wake?

rzak said:
Trackball wake?
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No trackball wake on any Gingerbread ROMs derived from stock. No modification has been found to enable it.
On the other hand, they don't suffer from wonks like CM7 and any CM7-based ROM.

I was loving stock gingerbread but switched over to cm7 after missing trackball wake

MIUI gets Gingerbread on Friday, that will be my choice.

I am on pure googlemod now!
But don't think just that i chose a ROM that nobody voted for would leave this POLL ad absurdum
It seems that the base of that ROM is CM7-NIGHTLY, which is the thing to go for if you want more speed in the ROM with a custom kernel (otherwise no camera).
Because i wanted the stock GB style i firstly chose GEOs stock deodexed one, but switched after i got the mentioned camera probs.
Now, with redstars custom kernel it is the fastest ROM i have ever used on my N1 (42 Mflops in Linpack)
Unfortunately it is still miles away from this insane ROM for the HD2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899
You can't imagine how fast and stable that ROM is, really!
Since it is open source the N1 DEVs could look into the code couldn't they?

sense or nothing
I am on the Geo build but I am waiting for a Sense UI gingerbread release. I am following this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995445 but hoping Evil D can bring his magic to a GingerSense build

I've been using CM7 RC 2 after having been using enom's roms for froyo. It is pretty damn stable and lets you use trackball wake which lots of gingerbread roms don't support.

Official ICS ROM(s) ok, or better stick with GB ROM(s)?

Hi, fellow Noters!
I have the N7000 Note, with stock GB ROM installed and only rooted, flashed with abyss kernel.
I am in the UK, so I am considering updating/upgrading to ICS... Now, from most of the posts here I gather that most of custom ICS ROMs aren't yet the most stable and people who installed the official ICS have mixed reactions...
Don't get me wrong- I am completely satisfied with my Note and the functionality of the apps as it is, but was just wondering how much improvement would I see, if I installed ICS...
Also, if I want to install official ICS ROM, do I need to unroot first and then flash it with ICS, or just straight on?
Thanks and enjoy the weekend!

Ics is suffing from the brickbug for now, that is not to mention other issues such as baterry drain. So if you are still satiafied with gb then should hold on unrik tge brixk bug is cleared. Cheers.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA

If you want to do an update ics stock , you have to flash with odin 1.85 the rom that you prefere..... it is not necessary performing unroot...

I'm still running GB as it's running great. Nothing really worth upgrading to ICS.
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Stay with GB. If you desperately wants ICS then flash CM9 or PA.

If you want to stay on a Touchwiz rom, then it may be better to stick with Gingerbread as it has less bugs that the TW ICS counterparts. However I would thoroughly recommend AOKP or CyanogenMod 9 if you truly want ICS; it has almost all features fully working (including camera, tethering and full access to all storage) and are both extremely light and quick. Plus both support themeing and have a wealth of customization options.
As for the brick bug, that has been almost eradicated IF you use a safe kernel such as Speed mod 3.3. Of course the worry is non existent on AOSP roms.
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Right... Thanks guys for your input!
I am in no rush to get to ICS, as pretty much all the visual stuff can be achieved through some extra launchers and themes while still staying with stock GB ROM.
I am pretty much happy with TouchWizz, but find the Go launcher a bit more faster and easier to use. I go to TW only when I need S Memo and that stuff from the suite...
so, until the bug in the official ICS ROM is fixed, or a very stable custom ICS ROM made, I will stick with GB...

Atomix86 said:
If you want to stay on a Touchwiz rom, then it may be better to stick with Gingerbread as it has less bugs that the TW ICS counterparts. However I would thoroughly recommend AOKP or CyanogenMod 9 if you truly want ICS; it has almost all features fully working (including camera, tethering and full access to all storage) and are both extremely light and quick. Plus both support themeing and have a wealth of customization options.
As for the brick bug, that has been almost eradicated IF you use a safe kernel such as Speed mod 3.3. Of course the worry is non existent on AOSP roms.
Sent via carrier pigeon
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so you say that flashing Cyanogmod9 rom and Speedmod 33 is a good bet?
can you give instructions on just how to do just that.I've never flashed anything before, but I do have lies and Odin on my PC already and both can see my note.
thanks

jimmbomb said:
...but I do have lies and Odin on my PC...
thanks
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He, he, he... you mean Kies?
I also sometimes mistype words and it is annoying when the result is actually a proper word, so it completely can confuse the recipient of the SMS, for instance...
I wonder if there are alternatives to the current ordering of letters on keyboards, you know-instead of ASDF-JKLsomething...

yeah.. typing on the note.
using GB keyboard with autospell ..
messes me up alot,cause I rarely proofread.
I Still would like to install the safe Cynamiod 9 and speed mod 33 if someone could walk me thru it.
thanks

Rooted Ace: To keep or not to keep (Stock ROM)

Alright. I've searched the forums for 4 hours trying to find different answers to my questions and I haven't had success in all. So, in case I'm that much of an idiot for asking a question that's been answered 1000 times, I'll be happy if you point me in the right direction instead of "politely" asking me to use the search button .
My GF bought an Ace which we were unable to root until we stumbled across the fact the 5830M differs from other models in some ways. We finally got it done yesterday with the help of this thread (I should add the her sole intention of rooting the phone was to expand her Ace's internal memory to be able to install more apps). and we are supposed to partion her SD card (32GB) today. However, after going through so many threads, and deciding CWM will do the partition, we are now unsure about wether we should switch ROM's or keep stock.
So, my question is: Is there any disadvantage of having a rooted phone with its stock ROM? Or better yet: Is there a reason as to why I SHOULD change ROM's?
Thanks in advance.

Hey there,
At this time, there are 3 custom ROMs that are truly different: Razodroid, Retribution ROM and the rest of the deodexed ROMs (2 or 3, I believe).
Let's take each on its own:
Razodroid offers the following:
EXT4 File System
Link2sd
New lock screen
Hard root
Bravia engin
14toogle
Galaxy SII CloCk
New icon pack
Custom bootanimation
Defult *ICS* theme
Ext4 script
Msg limit increased n skins added
Tweaks added
Miui music player added
New google play
All apps updated
New tw Modded
Busybox(latest)
New Launcher
ICS keyboard
Deodex
Zip Aligned System Apps
Sign all apk n zip
Swipe To Clear Notification
Battery saver Tweak
Better Performance
Battery Life increased
Faster SDCARD Read/Write Speed
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In other words, it will bring you a slight performance boost, more juice, a different look and some (currently buggy/not so smooth) new features such as swipe to clear or 14 toggles.
Retribution ROM has less features. It's mostly about performance, but it's still in a beta stage, so there's more to come:
Smooth Scroll Mod
Build.prop tweaks
Flash Player pre-included
Beats Audio Mod pre-included
Updated libs and modules for better perfomance
Completely ad-free
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Both of these ROMs come along with Rafael's kernel, which adds support to init.d, iptables and cpu governors, among other features. They're useful for running scripts at boot, using firewalls (e.g. DroidWall) and changing the phone's governor (as the name suggests).
Last comes the deodexed ROMs that have no additional features. As any deodexed ROM, they remove odex files, giving you some extra internal space (at the cost of a slight performance hit) and allow easier theming, allowing you to get, for example, an ICS (deodexed) theme for the S5830I (it's made by rajrocks, search for it if you're interested).
To sum it up, there are no disadvantages of having a rooted phone with the stock ROM. Actually, you have almost no reason to get a custom ROM unless you're interested in the new features they bring, especially that performance/battery tweaks can be applied using scripts or manually without needing a custom ROM, if you know what you're doing.
EDIT: You should however consider getting Rafael's latest kernel for the reasons mentioned above: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818830

Very detailed answer. Thanks!
TBH, I think we'll just keep the current ROM (if it was up to me, I'd be tweaking the hell out of the phone) seeing that it isn't really necessary. If we do, we'll be picking option # 1.
Thanks again.

The only disadvantage of installing a custom rom (i think) is the bigger chance of losing your phone's warranty

GermainZ said:
Hey there,
At this time, there are 3 custom ROMs that are truly different: Razodroid, Retribution ROM and the rest of the deodexed ROMs (2 or 3, I believe).
Let's take each on its own:
Razodroid offers the following:
In other words, it will bring you a slight performance boost, more juice, a different look and some (currently buggy/not so smooth) new features such as swipe to clear or 14 toggles.
Retribution ROM has less features. It's mostly about performance, but it's still in a beta stage, so there's more to come:
Both of these ROMs come along with Rafael's kernel, which adds support to init.d, iptables and cpu governors, among other features. They're useful for running scripts at boot, using firewalls (e.g. DroidWall) and changing the phone's governor (as the name suggests).
Last comes the deodexed ROMs that have no additional features. As any deodexed ROM, they remove odex files, giving you some extra internal space (at the cost of a slight performance hit) and allow easier theming, allowing you to get, for example, an ICS (deodexed) theme for the S5830I (it's made by rajrocks, search for it if you're interested).
To sum it up, there are no disadvantages of having a rooted phone with the stock ROM. Actually, you have almost no reason to get a custom ROM unless you're interested in the new features they bring, especially that performance/battery tweaks can be applied using scripts or manually without needing a custom ROM, if you know what you're doing.
EDIT: You should however consider getting Rafael's latest kernel for the reasons mentioned above: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818830
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Will those ROMS also work on s5839i?