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Why ODIN? WHY?!

It's driving me nuts, and I would like someone to help me understand. I came here with a bricked and completely unrepairable phone, and I have since managed to get a new Note. The completely stubborn side of me went right away flashing ICS ROMS...Okay, that's all good and well...No harm done anyway. But why don't developers include the "base" and root kernel files in their frickin' ROMS?! It's incredibly annoying. Why do I have to go into "ODIN" and download mode to flash some repack, wipe wipe wipe, reboot, flash another base, wipe wipe wipe, reboot, and finally flash a "custom" ROM. I should be able to flash a single .zip file through CWM and be down with it. I'm not bad talking at all, and I greatly appreciate what developers do around here.
For example, MIDNOTE includes ICS kernel and base...one integrated file. EVERYTHING works, and I have full root access. I'm wondering what it will be like when Samsung comes out with an official ICS version, will I have to flash ten different files to use a custom ROM or will developers be able to integrate it into their work? Just a question...not meant to cause trouble in the least...it just erks me the wrong way. And I'm sure others are wondering the same too.

They does it because you dont need to get those annoying yellow triangle and increase those custom binary counters....Would you like having triangles and increase counters?And the ICS roms are too early releases and are still in beta stages.So you need to go with the process.GB roms dont have these problems and are less hectic.Thats why I still stay in GB.Custom ICS roms will be ok when Official ICS is released.

@smalmagal
you are aboulutely right...
its a shame that they dont make it even easier to flash...
i mean please, the only thing that they are doing is:
- Prepare a Rom from scratch
- Provide updates
- Try to fix bugs
- And that in their free time for free
why not make a rom that i click on and its installed on my device...
like windows popups...
Click on Link and choose:
a- Save
b- Open
c- Flash to my Phone, make all the settings and text my GF that i love her...
Pleaseeee mate...
Not everyone is a dev here but at least we should be able to flash a rom...
Cooking takes days and week, flashing in WORST case 1 hour...

Bulut.O said:
@smalmagal
why not make a rom that i click on and its installed on my device...
like windows popups...
Click on Link and choose:
a- Save
b- Open
c- Flash to my Phone, make all the settings and text my GF that i love her...
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Made my day!!! LOL !! could you please add
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ha ha ha ha ha ha hah!!

Bulut.O said:
@smalmagal
you are aboulutely right...
its a shame that they dont make it even easier to flash...
i mean please, the only thing that they are doing is:
- Prepare a Rom from scratch
- Provide updates
- Try to fix bugs
- And that in their free time for free
why not make a rom that i click on and its installed on my device...
like windows popups...
Click on Link and choose:
a- Save
b- Open
c- Flash to my Phone, make all the settings and text my GF that i love her...
Pleaseeee mate...
Not everyone is a dev here but at least we should be able to flash a rom...
Cooking takes days and week, flashing in WORST case 1 hour...
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Are you serious???????Do you think rom flashing is like installing your favorite app???As I said when Stock ICS is released everything would become easy

Bulut.O said:
@smalmagal
you are aboulutely right...
its a shame that they dont make it even easier to flash...
i mean please, the only thing that they are doing is:
- Prepare a Rom from scratch
- Provide updates
- Try to fix bugs
- And that in their free time for free
why not make a rom that i click on and its installed on my device...
like windows popups...
Click on Link and choose:
a- Save
b- Open
c- Flash to my Phone, make all the settings and text my GF that i love her...
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vijai2011 said:
Are you serious???????Do you think rom flashing is like installing your favorite app???As I said when Stock ICS is released everything would become easy
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@vijai2011 you completely missed the point!! Didn't you??
The things said by @Bulut.O is called SARCASM
Read again!! And this time carefully!!
Peace

I'm serious guys! This is the only device I've ever owned where I have to flash a million different files just to get my phone booting...so I'm just trying to understand what's up. And obviously I LOVE the Note or else I wouldn't have bought two.
Developers do this for free...okay, yeah...but they don't have to do it half-assed? If I was going to sell you a car, I'd probably give it to you one piece. I wouldn't make you take all the parts and put them together yourself only in the end to find out that you're missing the engine and have to start all over again. And honestly, that's how I feel around here sometimes.
And the comment about Windows is out of line. I don't use Windows...why does everyone assume Windows? Honestly don't know why more don't use Linux around here. Windows just plan ol' sucks.
Edit: Custom ROMS aren't build from "scratch" by the way...and not everyone around here who posts a ROM is a "developer."

This issue is not because of lazy developers. It is because Samsung is tired of replacing devices under warranty when the terms of said warranty have been broken, and as a result putting extra security measures in place.
Lazy developers would let you get the yellow triangle, and then let you foot the bill for your mistakes while flashing.

beestee said:
This issue is not because of lazy developers. It is because Samsung is tired of replacing devices under warranty when the terms of said warranty have been broken, and as a result putting extra security measures in place.
Lazy developers would let you get the yellow triangle, and then let you foot the bill for your mistakes while flashing.
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Huh? I'm talking about doing everything from CWM...not from ODIN. So no yellow triangle...and as far as I know, every custom ROM around here is a CWM flashable .zip file...minus the oh so coveted ICS repack...which needs ODIN for some unknown reason to me. So now, I'm not calling myself lazy, or the developers around here for that matter. There's a good reason, I know it...I want to find out. Samsung is a different beast for sure, and this is the first Samsung device I've owned, and I'm trying to avoid bricking again, so I'd like to learn all the procedures and such...and why they're necessary. It's for my piece of mind really.

smalmagal said:
Huh? I'm talking about doing everything from CWM...not from ODIN. So no yellow triangle...and as far as I know, every custom ROM around here is a CWM flashable .zip file...minus the oh so coveted ICS repack...which needs ODIN for some unknown reason to me. So now, I'm not calling myself lazy, or the developers around here for that matter. There's a good reason, I know it...I want to find out. Samsung is a different beast for sure, and this is the first Samsung device I've owned, and I'm trying to avoid bricking again, so I'd like to learn all the procedures and such...and why they're necessary. It's for my piece of mind really.
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You just answered your own question. The process is long and somewhat complicated because it HAS to be done via recovery. If it were done via download mode in ODIN, it would be much simpler; but it would trip the counter. Using recovery instead of download mode sidesteps this problem, but it introduces others. That is why flashing to/from ICS/GB via recovery is so complicated.
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I appreciate you bleeding edge types, but this is why I wait a few weeks AFTER an official rom is released, before I even consider a custom rom.
ICS is still an infant...I'd rather have one that was at least able to drive a car before I install it.

geo.samuel said:
@vijai2011 you completely missed the point!! Didn't you??
The things said by @Bulut.O is called SARCASM
Read again!! And this time carefully!!
Peace
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Lol....Ok.understood it now.Now generally as said in above post,lazy developers would let you get triangles and increase custom binaries.So they need to make multiple files which makes your phone ready for flashing your favorite firmware.If you probably own a galaxy s series you would know how easy it was to flash firmwares.Thats because sammy did not implement any security measures which Gnote has.Hope you understand

smalmagal said:
every custom ROM around here is a CWM flashable .zip file...minus the oh so coveted ICS repack...which needs ODIN for some unknown reason to me.
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It's because of the kernel and root. Unlike GB kernels, this one seems to be a bit wonky, and your root permissions get lost easily in CWMR flashing or Nand restoring. Hence the convoluted flashing procedures. Lack of code sources, I suppose.
All of us have to accept this if we want a taste of Roms based on the Chinese leak. No-one is happy with the current state of the affairs, but we manage.
Nobody is forcing you to deal with it. If you can't, stick with GB Roms until the final version of ICS drops.

I have flashed several ICS Roms and only flashed the chainfire repack the very first time when I moved to ICS from gingerbread. I have flashed Criskelo, rocket and midnote just from CWM. Never had a triangle, SOD etc...just full wipe before I flashed and then cleared caches after.

[Q] Super Bricked Gnote Revived But Lost Memory

Hello Dear friends,
This is Alvina Snow, a nooby nooby noob girl, who once liked to play with phones and would make fun of her buddies, carrying the stereo-typed GB versions on thier Note. I am no more interested in flashing Roms and not because i blame developers. They have always been great in thier job and i owe them for their coolest roms, but i blame myself and my hastiness in everything. Cutting the crap, let me come to the point.....
Last night, tired of the mediocre looks of Official ICS, i downloaded Paranoid Android 0.4a along with goodies and following the instructions, I opened Odin to downgrade to GB so i can install PA 0.4a safely. To my surprise, once the GB Rom installed successfully, it got stuck at bootloader, i rebooted it a few times, then i went to recovery and reset factory/ format, wiped cache and rebooted. Note stuck this time on the first screen. :fingers-crossed:
Presuming that Odin install may have been faulty, i redid the Odin method and this time, the install stuck at "factoryfs.rfs". From then on, i tried for hours to make it happen, swapped roms, used kernels, wiped everything... and ultimately i got a nice super brick on my hands. the notorious mobile-cum-triangle-cum-PC sign, asking me to use recovery through kies.
researched XDA all night and finally landed on Dr. Forest's "Easy guide for repartition workaround to fix super-brick Note"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26285877&postcount=12
Did everything as directed. I used "standard 16 GB pit" and stable GB rom to resurrect my Note and we both came to life to my surprise, only to discover that now i have an 8.24 GB emmc space available, instead of previously held 11.4 GB something. :victory:
I have been praying for Dr. Forest and all esteemed developers and i will always be thankful to them. My questions to my learned seniors is that:-
- Is there any method, adopting which the missing 3 GB should be regained?
- Will I ever be able to regain the missing 3GB space?
- Having this notion in mind that now i have caged 3 GB of voracious malfunctioning space in my emmc, should i expect any further stability issues after revival of Note or it should work just fine.
Once again hats off to Dr. Forest and all other developers for thier compassionate assistance for us noobs. My thanks in advance for help. :angel:
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alvinasnow said:
Hello Dear friends,
This is Alvina Snow, a nooby nooby noob girl, who once liked to play with phones and would make fun of her buddies, carrying the stereo-typed GB versions on thier Note.
Did everything as directed. I used "standard 16 GB pit" and stable GB rom to resurrect my Note and we both came to life to my surprise, only to discover that now i have an 8.24 GB emmc space available, instead of previously held 11.4 GB something. :victory:
I have been praying for Dr. Forest and all esteemed developers and i will always be thankful to them. My questions to my learned seniors is that:-
- Is there any method, adopting which the missing 3 GB should be regained?
- Will I ever be able to regain the missing 3GB space?
- Having this notion in mind that now i have caged 3 GB of voracious malfunctioning space in my emmc, should i expect any further stability issues after revival of Note or it should work just fine.
Once again hats off to Dr. Forest and all other developers for thier compassionate assistance for us noobs. My thanks in advance for help. :angel:
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Thanks for the kind words which is a lovely reward to the people who contribute time and knowledge to the guides to help revive brick G-Note, including me :victory:!
I will try to answer some of the questions:
1- So far there has not been a known method to fix the faulty areas in the partition caused by the buggy ICS kernel yet. There seem to be some encouraging news from some senior developers who are in contact with Samsung developers and it is hope that there may be a Jtag method release. If the method is available then your device can also benefit from it since the re-partition is fully reversible. Let's just hope they can make it.
2- Will the phone be stable or not: for most people it seems to work well and stable. For some people who have a large damaged areas of space in former sdcard region due to the bug, there seem to be some problem of unstable system. In those cases it is likely that there are still some faulty blocks somewhere in cache or data partitions that has not been eliminated yet.
3- If you are comfortable with using adb method you can try again to explore the lost areas and in some cases can regain 1 or 2 GB of space. There is a free app call "eMMC Brickbug Check" from Gplay which can help to scan the whole chip and report the beginning of faulty blocks. Then you can use parted to make partitions in different areas within the lost range (from 281mb to 3322mb) while try to avoid the faulty blocks.
Hope it helps in some ways. cheers.

Thanx a Ton
Ex expected you came to my rescue and encouragement Sir Forest. . Thanx a million for taking time to answer my queries. I hope that Samsung will soon come up with some remedy. As advised by you, i will also try to use the regain method. Though am not sure
Thank you

forest1971 said:
3- If you are comfortable with using adb method you can try again to explore the lost areas and in some cases can regain 1 or 2 GB of space. There is a free app call "eMMC Brickbug Check" from Gplay which can help to scan the whole chip and report the beginning of faulty blocks. Then you can use parted to make partitions in different areas within the lost range (from 281mb to 3322mb) while try to avoid the faulty blocks.
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Forest Sir, as you advised i used eMMC Brickbug Check", which says that:
Phone Model: Samsung GT-N7000
eMMC Chip
type: VYLOOM
Date: 03/2012
CID:15010056594c30304d19b9c9013c3fdd
FwRev: 0x19
Brick Bug? : YES. Insane Chip
Now when i check memory.. it started checking and showing something similar to seconds counting and the phone restarted after reaching 671 seconds..
Now pardon my noobness, but i am not clear if how am i gonna get help in determing defected areas out of this.
Help please. God Bless You

alvinasnow said:
Forest Sir, as you advised i used eMMC Brickbug Check", which says that:
Phone Model: Samsung GT-N7000
eMMC Chip
type: VYLOOM
Date: 03/2012
CID:15010056594c30304d19b9c9013c3fdd
FwRev: 0x19
Brick Bug? : YES. Insane Chip
Now when i check memory.. it started checking and showing something similar to seconds counting and the phone restarted after reaching 671 seconds..
Now pardon my noobness, but i am not clear if how am i gonna get help in determing defected areas out of this.
Help please. God Bless You
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No, not yet all. In this case it does not allow to see where the faulty block is.
If you are confident and like to play again with adb then can explore using parted to create new partitions again in different ranges, with part 9 starting from 1174mb, and then move up by 300mb each time until parted is happy with the new area for part 9. with that approach you will probably save more space.
Otherwise, a external sdcard can also compensate more than all the loss of space in the internal sdcard . cheers.

Thank You Sir Forest for ur guidance. I think its time to get me a 32 GB micro sd

Amen !! I only use my internal SD to hold my Mods and ROMs, all the precious stuff is on the external, Just incase.
Plus i have dropbox and google drive to keep my stuff regularly backed up

azzledazzle said:
Amen !! I only use my internal SD to hold my Mods and ROMs, all the precious stuff is on the external, Just incase.
Plus i have dropbox and google drive to keep my stuff regularly backed up
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Yea Sir, after getting bricked, I know realize its the best way to handle the unseen
Long Live my Seniors... Owe you people very much.:good:

alvinasnow said:
Thank You Sir Forest for ur guidance. I think its time to get me a 32 GB micro sd
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If you get that 32GB micro-SD, you can use it as your phone's internal SD card with an easy vold.fstab swap. Your reduced capacity internal storage would then become your "external" SD card.
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Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
If you get that 32GB micro-SD, you can use it as your phone's internal SD card with an easy vold.fstab swap. Your reduced capacity internal storage would then become your "external" SD card.
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:victory: Ahaa. Another good news after being delved in miseries for a full day. Let's google the Vold.fstab Swap.
Thank you Mister Mxyzptlk

My Options.
Considering my options, I got few questions in my mind...
a. My Note is International version and purchased from KSA, whereas I am in Pakistan now. So can I claim my warranty here with Samsung Service Centres?
b. If yes, I obviously need to reset my binary counter, which is 4 or 5 at the moment. I also need to restore my Note to stock rom and stock kernel. Is there any safe way except Angelo's kernel and USB Jig to reset binary counter? i was looking for "Triangle Away" in the market, but i somehow couldn't find it.
Help my seniors please. If with your help I can go to Samsung and my warranty is validated, all credits with be to you guys for saving me from big troubles. To be honest I had been a poor kinda girl and managed barely to pull off my Note. I can't afford to manage a board replace night now

Hi: I do not have answers to all questions, but for triangleaway.
you can file a free and paid version of your choice:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22463153#post22463153
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=triangleaway&c=apps
cheers,

Thank You Sir, Forest. Hope this would work

Of you've repartitioned the note that will void your warranty I imagine.
What you really need is an untouched superbrick as Samsung won't be able to tell if it has any hits on the binary counter or if its ever been rooted or custom firmwares flashed...
So brick it again if you are able to claim warranty in Pakistan.
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SpyderTracks said:
Of you've repartitioned the note that will void your warranty I imagine.
What you really need is an untouched superbrick as Samsung won't be able to tell if it has any hits on the binary counter or if its ever been rooted or custom firmwares flashed...
So brick it again if you are able to claim warranty in Pakistan.
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So, bricking its again seems a potentially dangerous job :fingers-crossed: besides what do you suggest, i should tell Samsung guys, how it happened. Coz i believe they are gonna ask me if how come the phone went dead and i have also learnt that they have ways to check binary count, even if the phone is Superbricked. I am in a fix, coz after investing 500$ on a Note, living without a 3GB phone space is pain in the a*s.
Help please

alvinasnow said:
So, bricking its again seems a potentially dangerous job :fingers-crossed: besides what do you suggest, i should tell Samsung guys, how it happened. Coz i believe they are gonna ask me if how come the phone went dead and i have also learnt that they have ways to check binary count, even if the phone is Superbricked. I am in a fix, coz after investing 500$ on a Note, living without a 3GB phone space is pain in the a*s.
Help please
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The brick has been acknowledged by samsung, they've admitted it can happen on fully stock uprooted firmware update over kies. That's all you say, you were updating through kies, it failed and you're bricked. They can't check binary count under super brick because it's not possible to enter download mode therefor impossible to get any data or connection off the device. Simple.
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SpyderTracks said:
The brick has been acknowledged by samsung, they've admitted it can happen on fully stock uprooted firmware update over kies. That's all you say, you were updating through kies, it failed and you're bricked. They can't check binary count under super brick because it's not possible to enter download mode therefor impossible to get any data or connection off the device. Simple.
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Well Dear spyderTracks, it confuses me further to think whether i was superbricked at all? coz i could go to recovery and could also go to download mode. as far as i know, u r super bricked if ur phone does not installs any rom and through odin, the rom installation stucks at factoryfs. please correct me if am wrong.
thanx for ur time.

alvinasnow said:
Well Dear spyderTracks, it confuses me further to think whether i was superbricked at all? coz i could go to recovery and could also go to download mode. as far as i know, u r super bricked if ur phone does not installs any rom and through odin, the rom installation stucks at factoryfs. please correct me if am wrong.
thanx for ur time.
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No, that's correct. Usually it disables download mode also, my apologies.
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Galaxy Mini Brick BootLoader

My phone is bricked by ROM manager. My phone can't boot into recovery mode, downloading mode nor normal phone. The phone charges the battery so there is still hope to fix it. I also have a JIG Usb just incase. if you got any questions you need to ask, please ask. I really want my phone back.

Darth343 said:
I also have a JIG Usb
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see this video

Can someone answer me - WHY are you using ROM manager when it's known that it kills our Galaxy Mini? Is it really that hard to use Odin, or just flash CWM recovery through the stock one?
Guess some people love to learn it the hard way. You have a unrepairable (at least at home) BRICK!

domcale said:
Can someone answer me - WHY are you using ROM manager when it's known that it kills our Galaxy Mini? Is it really that hard to use Odin, or just flash CWM recovery through the stock one?
Guess some people love to learn it the hard way. You have a unrepairable (at least at home) BRICK!
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Sorry! Just a thought came to my mind can it b there any solution for this evergreen problem? Like newbies r bricking their phone again & again. ( like warning in stickies) . Just thinking! !! That's all.....
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You have no reason to be sorry . It's a great idea to put a warning message about ROM Manager in a sticky. However, i once was a total noob too, and i flashed CWM using Odin, it didn't even came to my mind to use ROM Manager.
Reading a couple of different tutorials and educationg yourself before doing anything is the best possible thing someone can do to prevent situations like this.But, like i said, some people have money to waste

lol ... ROM Manager is screwing up everyones phone. Even my friend's mini bricked. He was unlucky that his warranty had got over. He asked the samsung service center and they told him that it would cost $90 for a new motherboard. He uses his galaxy mini as a paper weight now. Rather buy a new phone than buy a motherboard for $90.
If your phone is under warranty, you can get your phone fixed for free in samsung service center( free new motherboard ). Even I bricked my phone when I was a noob with ROM Manager thankfully my warranty was valid that time.

Although I was able to use ROM Manager with no problems.

domcale said:
You have no reason to be sorry . It's a great idea to put a warning message about ROM Manager in a sticky. However, i once was a total noob too, and i flashed CWM using Odin, it didn't even came to my mind to use ROM Manager.
Reading a couple of different tutorials and educationg yourself before doing anything is the best possible thing someone can do to prevent situations like this.But, like i said, some people have money to waste
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One real problem is that Rom Manager comes by default on most CM7 based roms. So most new users while experimenting might brick their phone by accident.

TheWhisp said:
Although I was able to use ROM Manager with no problems.
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You were lucky, I guess
anshul sood said:
One real problem is that Rom Manager comes by default on most CM7 based roms. So most new users while experimenting might brick their phone by accident.
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I agree, but nobody forces them to experiment with something they have no knowledge of. Phones are not toys to play with (to some extent )
A big warning in the general and development section would be enough.

domcale said:
I agree, but nobody forces them to experiment with something they have no knowledge of. Phones are not toys to play with (to some extent )
A big warning in the general and development section would be enough.
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Most new users don't browse the stickies, just notice the large no. of redundant and useless threads. They just open the thread pertaining to the rom they want and that's that. It would be nice if each Rom had either the rom manager removed or a warning with the download link itself

never say to anyone that rom manager's brick cannot be recovered in home, it can be
the only step is just press volume down home power button but without panicking, panicking is the main reason of can't able to get into download mode
then just flash with odin, dont think it cannot get into dl mode, dl mode is controlled by bootloader and bootloader is not removed by rom manager

Unsuccesfull flash of bootloader hard-bricks our device, so you can't enter DL mode.
You can always give it a shot with a USB JIG* tho. But in most cases, the only thing that helps is JTAG.
*USB JIG - a 301k resistor between the 4th and 5th pin on the microUSB connector.

Tried that.
I've seen that video like about a thousand times. No luck i even went to a repair men today, he said your phone is dead if it can't go in to recovery menu. Is there any other way i can repair my phone? Sorry for late VERY reply

Yes, either use JTAG or send it to the service center.

Brick caused by rom manager is absolute
Nothing can be done
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Me to I used it for making backups, but currently, I'm using cm 10 without ROM Manager.

Same problem with me the board was not responding so Samsung service centre changed my board.
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If there isn't really anyway, then i'll just buy a new phone.

Darth343 said:
If there isn't really anyway, then i'll just buy a new phone.
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Sorry you had to learn it the hard way. When you're new in this world it's easy to 'trust' all CM standard apps. Nevertheless: using CM means you're a root user. Your phone is rooted which means you can seriously damage your phone when you don't know what youre doing. That's exactly the reason why your phone is NOT rooted when you buy it, and your garantee is void when you root it yourself!
Some of these apps provide a warning: with great power comes great responsability!
Nevertheless: the first thing i do when i buy a new Android is rooting it! But a general warning is at place: root apps can damage your phone. Especially those to install roms. Even with a proper CWM you can flash a wrong or faulty Rom. The risk of bricking your phone is always there.
So think twice when you buy a new phone and read all about flashing on XDA!

Need help to Hard Brick my phone

Yes, you read correct, I want to hard brick my phone not unbrick it but at the same time not leave traces of evidence of tampering. An unusual request it may be, but I have tried everything but just cannot get the damn thing to brick. I wanted to brick it and then experiment on possible ways to unbrick it. And then if all failed, I was going to send it back to Samsung to see if they find any traces of deliberate tampering. Come on geniuses...I know you're out there somewhere

Rom manager flash the wong recovery fr other devce
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DeadSp1d3r said:
Rom manager flash the wong recovery fr other devce
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+10000000 it's so easy

Thanks. Just downloading a Rom for the S5830i to try out. Wouldn't you be able to re-flash the correct rom this way and get it to work again? Also if it does brick this way, would it leave traces when Sammy Techs investigate?

Gizmotech said:
Thanks. Just downloading a Rom for the S5830i to try out. Wouldn't you be able to re-flash the correct rom this way and get it to work again? Also if it does brick this way, would it leave traces when Sammy Techs investigate?
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if you use rom manager samsung will not find out anything
if you flash other devices rom like acei on ace then it might brick but not for 100% sure but there is lots and lots of change that it will brick since it uses other flash scripts and binarys

Gizmotech said:
Yes, you read correct, I want to hard brick my phone not unbrick it but at the same time not leave traces of evidence of tampering. An unusual request it may be, but I have tried everything but just cannot get the damn thing to brick. I wanted to brick it and then experiment on possible ways to unbrick it. And then if all failed, I was going to send it back to Samsung to see if they find any traces of deliberate tampering. Come on geniuses...I know you're out there somewhere
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Just download a galaxy s3 ROM and kernel...bricked right there.
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Ok Just tried to load up the firmware file for a Ace Plus on odin 4.38 but it wont accept it and comes back with "out of memory" error on the PC screen. Will try Rom Manager.

Bingo! Bricked it. I take it there's no way that I can attempt to revive it? Also I hope there is no traces of CWM Rom Manager, Superuser or Busybox

I don't know about the traces. But the only way to revive it is JTAG or replacement motherboard.
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Next time, I'd rather make a backup in CWM and then restore it from another Recovery. What this does is delete the boot.img, so now your phone can't do anything and Samsung can't get any logs etc. from the device.
Also REMEMBER! Play dumb when taking it to the Samsung store! Don't mention Roms etc..

PulseDroid said:
Next time, I'd rather make a backup in CWM and then restore it from another Recovery. What this does is delete the boot.img, so now your phone can't do anything and Samsung can't get any logs etc. from the device.
Also REMEMBER! Play dumb when taking it to the Samsung store! Don't mention Roms etc..
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Or rename a text file to boot.img and flash it as a ROM. This gives a totally faulty ROM.
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Thanks guys, gonna give it in to service today and will keep you guys updated. I like the above method as it definitely would not leave traces of CWM, Superuser or Busybox. Duh, why didn't I think of that:silly: but too late now. maybe next time or someone else.

Gizmotech said:
Thanks guys, gonna give it in to service today and will keep you guys updated. I like the above method as it definitely would not leave traces of CWM, Superuser or Busybox. Duh, why didn't I think of that:silly: but too late now. maybe next time or someone else.
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Do you not ever think there is someone in samsung softwere development reading this...
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Best way to hardbrick your phone is to use rom manager
I got transformed into a potato while writing this post

athe_s said:
Do you not ever think there is someone in samsung softwere development reading this...
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I do. That's the good thing about having a screen-name

Updates!!!
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Thanks guys, gonna give it in to service today and will keep you guys updated.
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Any updates dude?

Wow. No wonder phone manufacturer doesn't honor warranty nowadays.
Seriously if u want to do such scam u should do it quietly without creating thread asking howto do so.

This is nice.... You can brick your phone in the last month of you year warranty and get a new phone/motherboard
Once my friends phone switched off suddenly... Non rooted stock
It happened suddenly and also out of warranty
She had to pay 5k to the Samsung people to get it repaired... And the plus point she got 14GB internal memory with the new motherboard
Her phone was the Samsung galaxy S i9000
it would've been done in free if she had warranty
So maybe you might get the GT S5830i.. The new version mother board or something
Best of luck

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Yes, you read correct, I want to hard brick my phone not unbrick it but at the same time not leave traces of evidence of tampering. An unusual request it may be, but I have tried everything but just cannot get the damn thing to brick. I wanted to brick it and then experiment on possible ways to unbrick it. And then if all failed, I was going to send it back to Samsung to see if they find any traces of deliberate tampering. Come on geniuses...I know you're out there somewhere
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ohh !!!! so easy !!! install rom manager... 100% sure samsung won't find out what went worng with your ace ...

ysrini said:
Any updates dude?
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Yes, the phone was repaired. They apparently replaced the motherboard.
an0nym0us_ said:
Wow. No wonder phone manufacturer doesn't honor warranty nowadays.
Seriously if u want to do such scam u should do it quietly without creating thread asking howto do so.
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I would have done it quietly if I didn't need the help. Duh! Besides, I doubt this is the reason why they don't honour warranty. I think it is more to do with that they are greedy corporate companies who would rather save at any cost irrespective of whose fault it is. I mean why should they penalise someone because of something someone else done? After all you are all paying customers. They scam people everyday and no one complains. I guess people only complain when it happens to them. You can buy a new phone and have it go faulty within 2 months. Do you think you can get a new phone under warranty from them? No it will be a refurbished one and doesn't mater how much you scream and shout for a new one, they don't care. A neither do I.
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So maybe you might get the GT S5830i.. The new version mother board or something
Best of luck
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No, I think it is the same motherboard. What I don't understand is, whether it is the same motherboard they repaired or a replacement one, as this phone was initially locked to the Three network. I had it unlocked. So a new motherboard would have meant that the phone would be locked again. But when I received it back, it would still accept any sims.

Phone stuck in bootloop

I have the model SM-G920T S6, I was attempting to root my phone and must of used the wrong file and now its stuck in bootloop with "Recovery Is Not Seandroid Enforcing" in red in the upper left corner. I've attempted to put it into recovery mode to flash my ROM...which it wouldn't allow me. I'm not quite sure how to fix this issue, I've been trying some videos I've seen on YouTube with no results. Does anyone know the way to fix this?

Use ODIN "Attached below" Flash the Stock ROM: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24269982086998283
That will get it back to Stock.. Just select AP
Then use odin to flash recovery..
Edit any recovery other than Stock will give you "Recovery Is Not Seandroid Enforcing", anyone with a custom recovery will have the same notification.. If you need further assistance, feel free to PM me..
Also, you asked a very easy question that you could of done on your own time, we all learned the same way..
XDA is not a place where simple questions get answered trust me on that one..

I managed to get it to work last night after a bit of messing around on Odin. Thank you for the help though, I am new to the whole rooting phones, flashing the ROM, etc. Gradually learning but there are a many of things I don't know how to proficiently do.

Tcrazz said:
I managed to get it to work last night after a bit of messing around on Odin. Thank you for the help though, I am new to the whole rooting phones, flashing the ROM, etc. Gradually learning but there are a many of things I don't know how to proficiently do.
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Flashing is a very dangerous thing to the uninitiated, before attempting to do something that can make your 700 dollar device into a worthless brick..
It is good to read as much as you can, don't rush the process or you will end up here asking a question that no one will answer..
I know because everytime I ask a question that to me appears to be legit, it ends up being ignored..
Now not everyone will ignore, but a good 98 percent will.. XDA is not a Support site, its a development directed at development..

Zaphodspeaks said:
Flashing is a very dangerous thing to the uninitiated, before attempting to do something that can make your 700 dollar device into a worthless brick..
It is good to read as much as you can, don't rush the process or you will end up here asking a question that no one will answer..
I know because everytime I ask a question that to me appears to be legit, it ends up being ignored..
Now not everyone will ignore, but a good 98 percent will.. XDA is not a Support site, its a development directed at development..
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Are there any sites that you might suggest that would help me learn a bit more. At the moment I have just been trying to root my phone before attempting anything else.