Yes, you read correct, I want to hard brick my phone not unbrick it but at the same time not leave traces of evidence of tampering. An unusual request it may be, but I have tried everything but just cannot get the damn thing to brick. I wanted to brick it and then experiment on possible ways to unbrick it. And then if all failed, I was going to send it back to Samsung to see if they find any traces of deliberate tampering. Come on geniuses...I know you're out there somewhere
Rom manager flash the wong recovery fr other devce
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DeadSp1d3r said:
Rom manager flash the wong recovery fr other devce
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+10000000 it's so easy
Thanks. Just downloading a Rom for the S5830i to try out. Wouldn't you be able to re-flash the correct rom this way and get it to work again? Also if it does brick this way, would it leave traces when Sammy Techs investigate?
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Thanks. Just downloading a Rom for the S5830i to try out. Wouldn't you be able to re-flash the correct rom this way and get it to work again? Also if it does brick this way, would it leave traces when Sammy Techs investigate?
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if you use rom manager samsung will not find out anything
if you flash other devices rom like acei on ace then it might brick but not for 100% sure but there is lots and lots of change that it will brick since it uses other flash scripts and binarys
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Yes, you read correct, I want to hard brick my phone not unbrick it but at the same time not leave traces of evidence of tampering. An unusual request it may be, but I have tried everything but just cannot get the damn thing to brick. I wanted to brick it and then experiment on possible ways to unbrick it. And then if all failed, I was going to send it back to Samsung to see if they find any traces of deliberate tampering. Come on geniuses...I know you're out there somewhere
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Just download a galaxy s3 ROM and kernel...bricked right there.
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Ok Just tried to load up the firmware file for a Ace Plus on odin 4.38 but it wont accept it and comes back with "out of memory" error on the PC screen. Will try Rom Manager.
Bingo! Bricked it. I take it there's no way that I can attempt to revive it? Also I hope there is no traces of CWM Rom Manager, Superuser or Busybox
I don't know about the traces. But the only way to revive it is JTAG or replacement motherboard.
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Next time, I'd rather make a backup in CWM and then restore it from another Recovery. What this does is delete the boot.img, so now your phone can't do anything and Samsung can't get any logs etc. from the device.
Also REMEMBER! Play dumb when taking it to the Samsung store! Don't mention Roms etc..
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Next time, I'd rather make a backup in CWM and then restore it from another Recovery. What this does is delete the boot.img, so now your phone can't do anything and Samsung can't get any logs etc. from the device.
Also REMEMBER! Play dumb when taking it to the Samsung store! Don't mention Roms etc..
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Or rename a text file to boot.img and flash it as a ROM. This gives a totally faulty ROM.
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Thanks guys, gonna give it in to service today and will keep you guys updated. I like the above method as it definitely would not leave traces of CWM, Superuser or Busybox. Duh, why didn't I think of that:silly: but too late now. maybe next time or someone else.
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Thanks guys, gonna give it in to service today and will keep you guys updated. I like the above method as it definitely would not leave traces of CWM, Superuser or Busybox. Duh, why didn't I think of that:silly: but too late now. maybe next time or someone else.
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Do you not ever think there is someone in samsung softwere development reading this...
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Best way to hardbrick your phone is to use rom manager
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athe_s said:
Do you not ever think there is someone in samsung softwere development reading this...
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I do. That's the good thing about having a screen-name
Updates!!!
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Thanks guys, gonna give it in to service today and will keep you guys updated.
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Any updates dude?
Wow. No wonder phone manufacturer doesn't honor warranty nowadays.
Seriously if u want to do such scam u should do it quietly without creating thread asking howto do so.
This is nice.... You can brick your phone in the last month of you year warranty and get a new phone/motherboard
Once my friends phone switched off suddenly... Non rooted stock
It happened suddenly and also out of warranty
She had to pay 5k to the Samsung people to get it repaired... And the plus point she got 14GB internal memory with the new motherboard
Her phone was the Samsung galaxy S i9000
it would've been done in free if she had warranty
So maybe you might get the GT S5830i.. The new version mother board or something
Best of luck
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Yes, you read correct, I want to hard brick my phone not unbrick it but at the same time not leave traces of evidence of tampering. An unusual request it may be, but I have tried everything but just cannot get the damn thing to brick. I wanted to brick it and then experiment on possible ways to unbrick it. And then if all failed, I was going to send it back to Samsung to see if they find any traces of deliberate tampering. Come on geniuses...I know you're out there somewhere
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ohh !!!! so easy !!! install rom manager... 100% sure samsung won't find out what went worng with your ace ...
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Any updates dude?
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Yes, the phone was repaired. They apparently replaced the motherboard.
an0nym0us_ said:
Wow. No wonder phone manufacturer doesn't honor warranty nowadays.
Seriously if u want to do such scam u should do it quietly without creating thread asking howto do so.
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I would have done it quietly if I didn't need the help. Duh! Besides, I doubt this is the reason why they don't honour warranty. I think it is more to do with that they are greedy corporate companies who would rather save at any cost irrespective of whose fault it is. I mean why should they penalise someone because of something someone else done? After all you are all paying customers. They scam people everyday and no one complains. I guess people only complain when it happens to them. You can buy a new phone and have it go faulty within 2 months. Do you think you can get a new phone under warranty from them? No it will be a refurbished one and doesn't mater how much you scream and shout for a new one, they don't care. A neither do I.
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So maybe you might get the GT S5830i.. The new version mother board or something
Best of luck
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No, I think it is the same motherboard. What I don't understand is, whether it is the same motherboard they repaired or a replacement one, as this phone was initially locked to the Three network. I had it unlocked. So a new motherboard would have meant that the phone would be locked again. But when I received it back, it would still accept any sims.
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After upgrading to 2.3.3 on my captivate the three button fix was applied, is it hardbricked and needs to send to Samsung?
you didnt read instructions did you?
how do you go back to stock? ODIN ONE CLICK
THEN flash 3 button fix with odin3 flasher ONLY IF YOU NEED TO after 1 click (shouldnt need to)
WHY? well that was in the instructions too!
3button fix only has 1 of 2 original bootloaders.
is it hard bricked?... probab-****in-bly.... does it turn on? you tell us...
send back to samsung, yup but keep your mouth shut and play dumb (shouldnt be hard)
ALL YOU SAY: "it stopped working" and stick it to the back of a big speaker magnet for an hour. (take out your sim and sd card dummy!)
well that was an expensive lesson..
Haha yes you probably did brick. Is it really that hard to read instructions? I flash at least 3-4 times a week and have never even come close to bricking. If you do exactly what the devs tell you to do then its almost impossible to brick your phone. However you clearly didn't read. To answer your question, yes, you most likely did brick your phone.
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Its not brick I did the same stupid thing but I was able to fix it whit a jig
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if you mix bootloaders, you are screwed.
Well I did. And it won't work whit the jig until I pull the battery out many times and reinstall drives
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reinstalling drivers has nothing to do with you phone bricking, so.. please just stop there,
but im not willing to thow out a 400$ brick just to prove you wrong... so fine you win! mix bootloaders all you want.
TRusselo said:
reinstalling drivers has nothing to do with you phone bricking, so.. please just stop there,
but im not willing to thow out a 400$ brick just to prove you wrong... so fine you win! mix bootloaders all you want.
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lol backing up Tru here.. If you mess up with bootloaders, the ONLY way back is a JTAG.
If you can fix it with a JIG, your bootloaders are intact and have never been mixed/damaged.
There is no way around, that's just how it is..
J tag is no guarantee though, 99 % ya but it costs more than I paid for this phone...
And ya like I said no mixy de boot loaders
I have a note here...its bricked, the owner tried flashing angelrom ICS, and bricked it.
It gets stuck when it starts writing factoryfs.img.
I have tried properly repartitioning it, installed a stock bootloader from a gt-n7000 stock rom, and that at least allowed me to get back into android system recovery. I wiped the data and cache and tried again.
I tried a stock rom that had multiple parts, and one that had the individual parts. I can flash all of the individual parts successfully but the PDA.
Anybody encounter this, and know a fix? I would really appreciate any tips or suggestions.
Just wanted to give some more information. I followed Ketan's guide to flash to stock rom, and tried multiple stock roms with the same results.
So I also tried repartioning with the proper pit file (the 16gb n7000) and that didn't work.
The only bootloader I could seem to find (because that was the next logical step to me) was "KERNEL_N7000XXKJ1_CL627135_REV02_eng_mid_ship.tar.md5" , would that be compatible with all stock roms or just a specific one?
I am sorry bro. You fried your flash drive, there is no way to revive it. The motherboard has to be replaced.
There isn't anything one can do if you flashed that kernel. If you have warranty head to Samsung service.
Yep, anilisanil is right. People who had found themselves in the same predicament tried absolutely everything, but there was no cure whatsoever. Data partition corrupted beyond repair, not even JTAG could help.
Motherboard replacement is the only thing that can be done.
anilisanil said:
I am sorry bro. You fried your flash drive, there is no way to revive it. The motherboard has to be replaced.
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Motherboard replacement is the only thing that can be done.
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Sorry, it seems You have no option but to go service centre.
chasmodo said:
Yep, anilisanil is right. People who had found themselves in the same predicament tried absolutely everything, but there was no cure whatsoever. Data partition corrupted beyond repair, not even JTAG could help.
Motherboard replacement is the only thing that can be done.
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How the duck is that physically possible? What an enormous embarrassment for angelom. I doubt hell ever post another kernel again...
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Yeah...I figured it was beyond hope after reading through a lot of the threads....
I did reset the counter with a jig, and took away the yellow triangle...but I was told samsung won't warranty this model in the USA.
Thanks for your replies!
Just a little query. Whats the actual physics behind this? Like how can some software fry the drive? Just a little interested and wondered how it actually physically happened. Because my assumption before all this was that it cant be truly completely bricked (obviously i was wrong). but wondering how!
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My phone is bricked by ROM manager. My phone can't boot into recovery mode, downloading mode nor normal phone. The phone charges the battery so there is still hope to fix it. I also have a JIG Usb just incase. if you got any questions you need to ask, please ask. I really want my phone back.
Darth343 said:
I also have a JIG Usb
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see this video
Can someone answer me - WHY are you using ROM manager when it's known that it kills our Galaxy Mini? Is it really that hard to use Odin, or just flash CWM recovery through the stock one?
Guess some people love to learn it the hard way. You have a unrepairable (at least at home) BRICK!
domcale said:
Can someone answer me - WHY are you using ROM manager when it's known that it kills our Galaxy Mini? Is it really that hard to use Odin, or just flash CWM recovery through the stock one?
Guess some people love to learn it the hard way. You have a unrepairable (at least at home) BRICK!
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Sorry! Just a thought came to my mind can it b there any solution for this evergreen problem? Like newbies r bricking their phone again & again. ( like warning in stickies) . Just thinking! !! That's all.....
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You have no reason to be sorry . It's a great idea to put a warning message about ROM Manager in a sticky. However, i once was a total noob too, and i flashed CWM using Odin, it didn't even came to my mind to use ROM Manager.
Reading a couple of different tutorials and educationg yourself before doing anything is the best possible thing someone can do to prevent situations like this.But, like i said, some people have money to waste
lol ... ROM Manager is screwing up everyones phone. Even my friend's mini bricked. He was unlucky that his warranty had got over. He asked the samsung service center and they told him that it would cost $90 for a new motherboard. He uses his galaxy mini as a paper weight now. Rather buy a new phone than buy a motherboard for $90.
If your phone is under warranty, you can get your phone fixed for free in samsung service center( free new motherboard ). Even I bricked my phone when I was a noob with ROM Manager thankfully my warranty was valid that time.
Although I was able to use ROM Manager with no problems.
domcale said:
You have no reason to be sorry . It's a great idea to put a warning message about ROM Manager in a sticky. However, i once was a total noob too, and i flashed CWM using Odin, it didn't even came to my mind to use ROM Manager.
Reading a couple of different tutorials and educationg yourself before doing anything is the best possible thing someone can do to prevent situations like this.But, like i said, some people have money to waste
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One real problem is that Rom Manager comes by default on most CM7 based roms. So most new users while experimenting might brick their phone by accident.
TheWhisp said:
Although I was able to use ROM Manager with no problems.
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You were lucky, I guess
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One real problem is that Rom Manager comes by default on most CM7 based roms. So most new users while experimenting might brick their phone by accident.
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I agree, but nobody forces them to experiment with something they have no knowledge of. Phones are not toys to play with (to some extent )
A big warning in the general and development section would be enough.
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I agree, but nobody forces them to experiment with something they have no knowledge of. Phones are not toys to play with (to some extent )
A big warning in the general and development section would be enough.
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Most new users don't browse the stickies, just notice the large no. of redundant and useless threads. They just open the thread pertaining to the rom they want and that's that. It would be nice if each Rom had either the rom manager removed or a warning with the download link itself
never say to anyone that rom manager's brick cannot be recovered in home, it can be
the only step is just press volume down home power button but without panicking, panicking is the main reason of can't able to get into download mode
then just flash with odin, dont think it cannot get into dl mode, dl mode is controlled by bootloader and bootloader is not removed by rom manager
Unsuccesfull flash of bootloader hard-bricks our device, so you can't enter DL mode.
You can always give it a shot with a USB JIG* tho. But in most cases, the only thing that helps is JTAG.
*USB JIG - a 301k resistor between the 4th and 5th pin on the microUSB connector.
Tried that.
I've seen that video like about a thousand times. No luck i even went to a repair men today, he said your phone is dead if it can't go in to recovery menu. Is there any other way i can repair my phone? Sorry for late VERY reply
Yes, either use JTAG or send it to the service center.
Brick caused by rom manager is absolute
Nothing can be done
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Me to I used it for making backups, but currently, I'm using cm 10 without ROM Manager.
Same problem with me the board was not responding so Samsung service centre changed my board.
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If there isn't really anyway, then i'll just buy a new phone.
Darth343 said:
If there isn't really anyway, then i'll just buy a new phone.
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Sorry you had to learn it the hard way. When you're new in this world it's easy to 'trust' all CM standard apps. Nevertheless: using CM means you're a root user. Your phone is rooted which means you can seriously damage your phone when you don't know what youre doing. That's exactly the reason why your phone is NOT rooted when you buy it, and your garantee is void when you root it yourself!
Some of these apps provide a warning: with great power comes great responsability!
Nevertheless: the first thing i do when i buy a new Android is rooting it! But a general warning is at place: root apps can damage your phone. Especially those to install roms. Even with a proper CWM you can flash a wrong or faulty Rom. The risk of bricking your phone is always there.
So think twice when you buy a new phone and read all about flashing on XDA!
Is it common to take about 25 minutes and still not be able to complete the installation of GB Rom using PC Odin..?
I am trying to install KL3_KL1 GB Rom and the PC Odin is stuck at Factory fs for 25 mins ...
unplugged the cable, removed the battery and restarted the process .. still the same no matter what I do...
I am at the moment following steps form dr.Ketan's threads.. but the process seems to take a little too long and am unable to get into recovery mode.. Its only download mode and never going past the factoryfs.img situation in PC Odin..
I was on Stock ICS ROM Indian version before i started the process with PC Odin.
My goal is to get into Criskelo ROM for now.
Any help of suggestions to get me out of the situation please..
Have you ever did factory reset or wipe on stock ICS?
this is bad sign, and highly suggestive of super brick emmc bug. if you cnfirm wiping on stock ICS then it must be that only.
sob sob ... may be i did ...
should i just handover my phone to Samsung service center now ??
Yes, just check your flash counter is zero
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yep.. That one is set to Zero.. Will Samsung just re-install software or replace device in this case ?
I have a nandroid backup taken 2 days back. Can i use that backup on the new phone to get back all my settings ??I primarily need contacts that i do not want to loose.
I believe it's a Motherboard replacement that you will be given, I doubt there will be anything you can pull from the old phone..
I luckily copied the nandroid backup onto my PC along with the md5 checksum... Would that help me ?
what is the process to restore from Nandroid backup
Recovery --> restore --> show the target ? is that it ?
Coolkriss said:
I luckily copied the nandroid backup onto my PC along with the md5 checksum... Would that help me ?
what is the process to restore from Nandroid backup
Recovery --> restore --> show the target ? is that it ?
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No, never try it. You wont be able to restore anything. Just send to repair center and have a new mobo replacement if still under warranty.
Then after get your devices back and check again how to do nand restore. ( please read or ask before do any nand restore).
Good luck, mate.
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As per above post - just wait until they send the device back repaired -
In the meantime read, read, read on how to go about these things otherwise you risk another brick..
To be honest, I'd just start a fresh when the new phone comes back..
Thanks guys .. Thanks for all the prompt responses. I just hope they dont take long time to get me the repaired or new phone.
I will just let my gmail account do the sync.
CJSlim79 said:
As per above post - just wait until they send the device back repaired -
In the meantime read, read, read on how to go about these things otherwise you risk another brick..
To be honest, I'd just start a fresh when the new phone comes back..
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You are right, actually i do believe for those who get bricked with their devices must be a experienced flasher. Those of them ( included myself) surely only read how to unroot the new devices but never read other thread such as ...how to ugrade rom...general section...problem.....
But i think after these brickbug dilemma, a lot of xda member like me and you sure will read ...read and read the whole forum before do any rooting and flashing no matter jump to which brand of devices......
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Usually new user are lazy to read n search, or searching just single targeted topic and follow it without even reading first few comments of op.
Though i remember coolcris is quite senior n if i remember correctly he had communicate with me many times on time of gb rom. But sadly sometime members not taking advise seriously. Or may be selects short cuts.
Have anyone remember single case faced any issue who updates rom theoritically clean or following instruction to d letter?
I believe if you read instruction fully n follow it word.to word, chances of brick is almost zero.
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Usually new user are lazy to read n search, or searching just single targeted topic and follow it without even reading first few comments of op.
Though i remember coolcris is quite senior n if i remember correctly he had communicate with me many times on time of gb rom. But sadly sometime members not taking advise seriously. Or may be selects short cuts.
Have anyone remember single case faced any issue who updates rom theoritically clean or following instruction to d letter?
I believe if you read instruction fully n follow it word.to word, chances of brick is almost zero.
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You're right mate, If the instructions are followed then I can't recall a single issue..
I've used your instructions (after extensive reading) and also had a lot of support from azzledazzle (Who was kind enough to walk me through my first downgrade).
I've had Android for a few years now since ditching the iPhone's and on HTC I used to flash anything and everything and just nandroid if anything went wrong. I think the issue here is that there is an issue, a bug with the eMMC, and people don't bother to research their NEW device, they approach with "I've flashed Android before" attitiude and this is where we end up...
It took me a while, and as I say alot of research before i started dabbling with the Note.... And as I am sure AD will confirm, I asked every n00b question under the sun of him about the process.. Yeah, I was a n00b and I am still learning... I asked the questions, nobody laughed and my Note is still purring...
I guess people either don't wanna feel stupid by asking (Old saying: No such thing as a stupid question!) or they are confident they "Know" how to do it because they have done so on other Android devices...
The guys on this forum are a wealth of knowledge and maybe it's just me, But I like to learn...
Hopefully, I maintain my head and don't mess it up in the near future and I am considering testing NoteCore V7 STD... but still not comfortable with the cleaning scripts etc - So i will read more, ask more and learn more... and hopefully continue to use my Note .. more...
dr.ketan said:
Usually new user are lazy to read n search, or searching just single targeted topic and follow it without even reading first few comments of op.
Though i remember coolcris is quite senior n if i remember correctly he had communicate with me many times on time of gb rom. But sadly sometime members not taking advise seriously. Or may be selects short cuts.
Have anyone remember single case faced any issue who updates rom theoritically clean or following instruction to d letter?
I believe if you read instruction fully n follow it word.to word, chances of brick is almost zero.
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I know and this was perfectly my mistake ..
I have flashed a lot of times and i actually remember know about the eMMC bug.. the only thing is that i did not check if i had that bug ..
Situation for me today.. I started the process and got an email that i had to respond immediately from my office..
In this process, I forgot if i did a reboot into recovery after flashing the Abyss Kernal .. that is when i just went ahead with the wipe cache/dalvik and data ...
This was my lazy A$$ to blame ..
but for anyone doing a flashing .. please concentrate on what you are doing and just dont rush ahead ...
and ofcourse read, read & read before you proceed with any steps...
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I know and this was perfectly my mistake ..
I have flashed a lot of times and i actually remember know about the eMMC bug.. the only thing is that i did not check if i had that bug ..
Situation for me today.. I started the process and got an email that i had to respond immediately from my office..
In this process, I forgot if i did a reboot into recovery after flashing the Abyss Kernal .. that is when i just went ahead with the wipe cache/dalvik and data ...
This was my lazy A$$ to blame ..
but for anyone doing a flashing .. please concentrate on what you are doing and just dont rush ahead ...
and ofcourse read, read & read before you proceed with any steps...
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I'm on a wing and a prayer at the mo as before i did any modding i was helping my bro (who lives in another country) and was talking him through it - jumped into Stock recovery and hit wipe cache by mistake...
It can and does happen but I am very diligent now and I've flashed a a good few ROM's and a good few stock recoveries since then so I hope i got away with that stupid mistake...maybe it's the wipe data only that brings forth "The Brick"
Yes..
anyway. I gave my Note to the SSC today .. IT was strange that they said .. DO NOT DO OTA .. you have to come to SSC for any software upgrade.
They initially told me that this is out of warrenty as I did OTA and showed them who the BOSS was .. Instantly they changed the tone and now they say we will do it for now, but the next time bring it to SSC for upgrades ..
They asked me to visit them tomorrow to collect the unit, but i doubt if they can change the Motherboard by tomorrow. Hoping they will..
Will keep you all posted on the status
Thanks a lot for all your guidance guys ...I would not have loved my Note so much if I was not on XDA
Now this has gone bad.. the SSC tells me that the software upgrade is not covered under warranty and is asking me to take back my phone .. They are not ready to repair it ..
Help me here guys ... anyone aware of something that i can scare them with ??
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Now this has gone bad.. the SSC tells me that the software upgrade is not covered under warranty and is asking me to take back my phone .. They are not ready to repair it ..
Help me here guys ... anyone aware of something that i can scare them with ??
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You can advise them of many many instances of this brickbug and provide evidences FROM SAMSUNG confirming that exists and acknowledging that this can be triggered by a simple update / large data move or copy.
This is standard practice for Service Centres, unfortunately they always try to get out of it.. Stand your ground, keep your head and you will be given a repaired / replaced device..
Oh - and answer any questions straightforward - Yes / No, Do not offer information.
Did you root / flash / play around - No
How did this happen - Via KIES
etc
Again - This can be triggered via a standard Factory reset / Wipe from within Settings > Factory Reset on ALL stock ICS kernels...
A little research on these forums will give you enough info...
Good luck
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Thanks a lot for the advice.. I am searching if I can find any official Samsung statement anywhere to get this resolved.
I called the head of SCC in my city and spoke to him today. He will check with the center and give me a call tomorrow..
Am just hoping this gets resolved... aaargh ...
Coolkriss said:
Thanks a lot for the advice.. I am searching if I can find any official Samsung statement anywhere to get this resolved.
I called the head of SCC in my city and spoke to him today. He will check with the center and give me a call tomorrow..
Am just hoping this gets resolved... aaargh ...
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Check the thread I posted..
There's a few Dev's here been in touch with SS over this issue since it was realised and I'm pretty sure you've all you need to basically tell them to replace it, No, Demand it...
Even under the Sale of Goods act - the device should be fit for purpose it is sold for.
Given that even on STOCK Firmware you can brick this device without rooting / modding AT ALL.. indicates this statement is not met. The device has a highly publicised and highly know firmware issue and Samsung were stupid enough to release a software modification (Which they encourage you to download via THEIR software) which enables you, without knowledge to destroy your phone..
It's your fault as you know that it happened (As we know from this forum and more the safe way)
But it is THEIR problem that they have the issue.. Do not take no for an answer, And to be honest - I would have refused to wait for the callback.. I would have advised (As I have previously) that I will hold on the line while they contact whoever they need to because you are eager for resolution of this.
You will get a new/repaired device...
I've just got my processor replaced by Samsung. Apparently according to the technician the processor is corrupted. Mine me it cost me almost USD 250 to replace it because the phone has been rooted so its not covered under warranty. I've rooted my phone, flash some kernels (Abyss and latest Franco Kernel) a few times and changed several ROMS (Kingdroid, ROCKETROM). I've no idea how to processor can be corrupted but according to the technician because when i rooted it i deleted some files cause the processor settings to malfunction and therefore processor got corrupted. I' pretty sure i did not deleted any files from the root folders. Can someone please explain to me the truth behind what the technician said. I believe its a whole lot of gibberish. I believe i should be able to change ROMS and Kernels as i please but i really don't want to spent another USD 250 to replace another processor after i changed ROMS or Kernels. Please advise.
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I've just got my processor replaced by Samsung. Apparently according to the technician the processor is corrupted. Mine me it cost me almost USD 250 to replace it because the phone has been rooted so its not covered under warranty. I've rooted my phone, flash some kernels (Abyss and latest Franco Kernel) a few times and changed several ROMS (Kingdroid, ROCKETROM). I've no idea how to processor can be corrupted but according to the technician because when i rooted it i deleted some files cause the processor settings to malfunction and therefore processor got corrupted. I' pretty sure i did not deleted any files from the root folders. Can someone please explain to me the truth behind what the technician said. I believe its a whole lot of gibberish. I believe i should be able to change ROMS and Kernels as i please but i really don't want to spent another USD 250 to replace another processor after i changed ROMS or Kernels. Please advise.
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If you have ever flashed a ICS rom which didn't have a safe kernel and made a factory reset,there are chances of your getting super bricked.As to confirm that,switch on your phone and see if it gets past the splash screen.If doesn't,its 50% confirmed.
Next is to boot into download mode and flash some rom with Odin.If it gets stuck at factoryfs,its confirmed.Please do note that it may take 10mins to flash factoryfs.If it take longer than 15mins,I'm sorry you have super bricked.
There are guides in general section to revive it.you could refer that if you need
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corrupt processor.. ? not sure what he meant by that... u should have asked to give the more info as in if it was an emmc chip issue...
if that was the case possibly a wipe on stock kernel mite have caused it and they mite have changed the motherboard.. which costs around that kinda money if not under warranty.
When i asked him all he said "u rooted ur phone. You could have erase some processor setting files..so processor malfunction therefor corrupted so no warranty". He did gave me back the motherboard though. of course since the motherboard and processor is a single piece therefore the replace it. But till now i still dont know how that happens or what i did might ha e lead to this when i asked the tech he said dont root your and i was lile "duh"
hmmm... not root an android.., its like keeping all the goodies in a locked room... but personally i have not encountered any such problem till now,,, i have unrooted and rooted the phone so many times..
may be a bad move mite have caused it
I guess you had done a wipe on an unsafe kernel which lead to a super brick
I too had the same experience but luckily got it replaced under warranty
He he .. U lucky guy.
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After days of searching and googling i believe like some more experienced users here said i might have caught the bug. But what i dont understand is i've also reflash the kernel to Abyss 4.2 kernel that changed my initial affected Kingdroid Rom to Rocketrom in hope to solve the problem, but unfortunately that didnt work. So basically if so unfortunately it happens to me in the future again, i guess ill just have to unroot and rrset the.binary counter..but by then the warranty might have expired already.
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After days of searching and googling i believe like some more experienced users here said i might have caught the bug. But what i dont understand is i've also reflash the kernel to Abyss 4.2 kernel that changed my initial affected Kingdroid Rom to Rocketrom in hope to solve the problem, but unfortunately that didnt work. So basically if so unfortunately it happens to me in the future again, i guess ill just have to unroot and rrset the.binary counter..but by then the warranty might have expired already.
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Maybe here will help you figure out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827394
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michaelw1979 said:
When i asked him all he said "u rooted ur phone. You could have erase some processor setting files..so processor malfunction therefor corrupted so no warranty". He did gave me back the motherboard though. of course since the motherboard and processor is a single piece therefore the replace it. But till now i still dont know how that happens or what i did might ha e lead to this when i asked the tech he said dont root your and i was lile "duh"
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Might relate to some kernel tweaking ... did often use processor O/C-ing???
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Might relate to some kernel tweaking ... did often use processor O/C-ing???
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Nope never oc my processor n ive always flash kernel from normal odin. Dont know how thos affected the emmc bug
Your technician is partly credible when he said you fried your procie....
perhaps he wasn't keenly elaborating it but he may have meant it to be your eMMC chip on your Note.
There are myriads of discussions already all over our beloved Note's forum regarding the eMMC chip which has most high end experts believe to be a faulty chip case and so henceforth, this chip would be toasted when a right scenario or pre-conditions are met thereof,, would trigger the superbrick bug.
Your tech guy might not be good in the right explanation of words.. but he is partly good in saying your 'procs' were fried... What I don't agree on him was that it was because 'you root' your phone... rooting does not in anyway enable the eMMc bug.... it is thru using an unsafe kernel and doing a full wipe of your phone that triggers it. Some are lucky they're not bitten first time when doing the wipe (with an unsafe kernel), few are not that lucky and the minute they wipe their device, instantaneously the bug would be triggered rendering their Note unbootable or stuck at data.img or factoryfs.img.
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Your technician is partly credible when he said you fried your procie....
perhaps he wasn't keenly elaborating it but he may have meant it to be your eMMC chip on your Note.
There are myriads of discussions already all over our beloved Note's forum regarding the eMMC chip which has most high end experts believe to be a faulty chip case and so henceforth, this chip would be toasted when a right scenario or pre-conditions are met thereof,, would trigger the superbrick bug.
Your tech guy might not be good in the right explanation of words.. but he is partly good in saying your 'procs' were fried... What I don't agree on him was that it was because 'you root' your phone... rooting does not in anyway enable the eMMc bug.... it is thru using an unsafe kernel and doing a full wipe of your phone that triggers it. Some are lucky they're not bitten first time when doing the wipe (with an unsafe kernel), few are not that lucky and the minute they wipe their device, instantaneously the bug would be triggered rendering their Note unbootable or stuck at data.img or factoryfs.img.
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I have a super-bricked note too. What if I go to them with my counter reset? Will they refuse to replace my motherboard for free?
Well it depends entirely on the discretion of your SSC and the tech handling it. Normally most techs are not that stingy to repair your Note just as long as they've check your warranty and is satisfied that you really did not tinkered your phone. Just act and answer sheeply to them that you've bricked while upgrading thru Kies.
Word of advice. Never ever give yourself away... Never ever instigate in anyway to tell them first hand that you've rooted already your phone or have flashed any custom roms on it. They might think otherwise of voiding your warranty if you blurt them what you really did to your phone. Act and think plausibly.
Kapish? Ok..good.
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Well it depends entirely on the discretion of your SSC and the tech handling it. Normally most techs are not that stingy to repair your Note just as long as they've check your warranty and is satisfied that you really did not tinkered your phone. Just act and answer sheeply to them that you've bricked while upgrading thru Kies.
Word of advice. Never ever give yourself away... Never ever instigate in anyway to tell them first hand that you've rooted already your phone or have flashed any custom roms on it. They might think otherwise of voiding your warranty if you blurt them what you really did to your phone. Act and think plausibly.
Kapish? Ok..good.
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I'd just tell them I've just received and OTA notification then the phone rebooted and didn't boot up again
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I have a super-bricked note too. What if I go to them with my counter reset? Will they refuse to replace my motherboard for free?
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If you clrar your flash counter,they must do it under warranty
Just act like you never know what rooting is
rajsekhar.300 said:
If you clrar your flash counter,they must do it under warranty
Just act like you never know what rooting is
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letters_to_cleo said:
Well it depends entirely on the discretion of your SSC and the tech handling it. Normally most techs are not that stingy to repair your Note just as long as they've check your warranty and is satisfied that you really did not tinkered your phone. Just act and answer sheeply to them that you've bricked while upgrading thru Kies.
Word of advice. Never ever give yourself away... Never ever instigate in anyway to tell them first hand that you've rooted already your phone or have flashed any custom roms on it. They might think otherwise of voiding your warranty if you blurt them what you really did to your phone. Act and think plausibly.
Kapish? Ok..good.
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msedek said:
I'd just tell them I've just received and OTA notification then the phone rebooted and didn't boot up again
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Cool then... I'll flash angelom 1.2 kernel to reset the counter. Then take it to SSC and see what happens. Wish me best of luck pls. I miss my Gnote :crying:
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Cool then... I'll flash angelom 1.2 kernel to reset the counter. Then take it to SSC and see what happens. Wish me best of luck pls. I miss my Gnote :crying:
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@OP
don't fret, you'll get your polished Note soon with a brand new mobo inside... So it's all good bud.
there is no way to fire your processor in software level, may be oc'ng it may hurt it, but any modification in software will not affect the processor by any mean, he meant the emmc chip for sure, any way as long as you are using safe kernel, and reading before flashing, you are safe to go, and i think your processor is safe as far as you don't overclock it too much.