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Alright, I really need some help from the big boys here.
I have had my N1 since release. I have T-Mobile and no data plan. Everything I do is over wifi.
On Friday, I saw the 3g icon on my phone for the first time. It appeared out of nowhere and just flips between 3G and E since T-Mobile just blocks data for non-plan users. This was killing the battery life of the phone.
I called Google and they ran me through *#*#4636#*#* to disable the data connection. This fixed the problem for a while; However after a while the phone will give a message that there is no service provider and will reconnect to T-Mobile (it has never done this before outside of phone boots). When it is back up the 3G/E cycling starts again. Even worse the data connection still lists as disabled and will not re-enable. I have to pop the battery out while it is running to get back in to disable it.
Google thinks its an app but I have removed everything but Touchdown and K9 which I don't think are the problem. I have used Android OS Monitor and I do see connections to 64.15.75.218 and 209.44.107.13 which are hot beds for malware and when I uninstall any app these connections vanish temporarily. But they come back after a few hours.
Anyone seen this before or know a way to track IP connections to a particular app?
I have no solution for tracing 'malicious' software but it is possible to just disable all mobile data usage.
Settings/Wireless and network settings/ Mobile networks > "Data enabled"
If you unselect this there should be no more data transfer while on the mobile network.
I do not have that option. Google Rep said it was only in froyo.
Problem is I did the same thing for 2.1 but it keeps coming back on. Even with wifi the phone connects to these ips so who knows what it is doing.
3G isn't used only for data, you can do voice on 3G.
Could be T-Mobile expanding 3g into your are where you didn't have coverage before.
Call T-Mobile and make sure you're not actually using data.
As for tracking applications, you can use System Panel Pro of the market to monitor how much data applications are using.
I know I am not using data. The T-Mobile account page is pretty detailed and I am unable to do anything online when wifi is off. 3G has also been available for a while here as I know others that use it.
I will check out system panel.
Thanks.
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I do not have that option. Google Rep said it was only in froyo.
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It is indeed only on Froyo, however, Froyo is out now, so install it and you'll instantly benefit.
A few more things:
Were you receiving or sending MMS (picture/video messages) when the 3G icon popped up? This is normal and doesn't usually come out of your data balance.
If you'd like to be triple-sure you're not using data, go into the APN settings. Edit the APN name - e.g. change tmobile.com to nomobile.com. Now it *really* shouldn't be able to access data.
Smarphones would be well to do to have a Zonealarm/little snitch type app for this purpose.
Id imagine ad based apps wouldnt be too happy about it. At the least an app that reports IPs times , and IN/OUT info.
I never use SMS or mms and have not gotten any during this time.
My concern is not related to getting charges but with unwanted use of my phone or data. When the data connection auto enables it will go through my battery in a matter or hours and who knows what the phone may be doing.
I know I can turn this off and make sure data is not used - in fact I have already done this. However when smoke enters room you don't just put a towel under the door and forget about it. I want to find the source of this and stop it because the behavior is not normal.
I agree something like zone alarm would be good. You should be able prevent or track an app activities for situations like this. If I knew what was connecting to these IPs and enabling the data connection I could stop it and report the app or submit a bug request. Right now I am just all alone.
I did try system panel which seems like a nice app but it does not give me good information on network usage by app. OSMonitor is better at connection monitoring but doesn't list by app. Why has no one thought to monitor network threads by app?
Try alogcat maybe? Any time you notice the icon suddenly appearing, save a copy of the logcat and comb through it.
alogcat may work. Figured out OSMonitor had something similar and filtered by app.
Now I just gotta wait I guess. Still not enough info to relate to IP though.
You should know that the data connection setting isn't an enforcement for the entire phone. It only acts as a notice to applications on whether or not to use data in the background.
Developers are supposed to respect those settings, but they are not enforced.
There is a free program called Network Statistics which is no longer in the market. I will backup the apk for you and upload it so you can use it. It shows the amount of data used by each app.
I too had a data hungry app issue and this helped me solve it immediately.
I'm just at work ATM, so I'll do it this evening. (Almost midday now here in Australia )
Cheers,
Ross
@JCopernicus
I am aware of this which is why I want to track this problem down.
@Ross
That sounds great. I appreciate the help. Not sure if tracking data usage is enough since I don't think the app is sending a lot of data. But I am willing to try anything.
I should be getting froyo soon so maybe that will help as well.
This is what I do when I want to ensure I don't use Data. Go I. To wireless connections. Mobile Networks, and then access points. Create a new one. I usually call it No Data. The for the apn, I just make something dumb, like no.data.com, and then save. After I'll select that as my apn.
The issue is not about the use of the data connection. I have done this and can guarantee the phone cannot use any cell data network. The problem is an app is trying to use it anyway even when it is disabled. Even if you ignore that as a concerning activity the constant 3G searching reduces the battery life to a mere hours.
I appreciate the help, but my issue is not with how to disable the data connection. Its about identifying malware on my device, and tracking an app calls to a specific IP.
Again,k 3g doesn't mean data. 3g is also used for voice.
If you only want to use "2g" switch your phone over to gsm only through 4636 or through the menu where it says "use 2g only".
You will never see the 3g icon again.
If you wan't to be 100% sure no app is calling an IP, then do a factory reset. Install apps one by one, monitor them through the various options given in this thread already.
You will not be able to prevent an application from "calling home" unless you modify the app itself. Apps use the data connection provided to them by the OS however they see fit.
Every app you install has a permissions prompt that will tell you it want's internet access.
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Again,k 3g doesn't mean data. 3g is also used for voice.
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The Android "3G", "H", "E" or "G" icon denotes data. It may also appear temporarily when making the connection necessary to transmit MMS. It does not appear when the phone is using voice over 3G without a data connection.
Actually, this may be a T-Mobile issue - they just enabled the ability to do "pay as you go" data on ALL plans without a data plan, so they may be the ones turning on the ability to do data. You'd still need to authorize it in your browser, and I think it costs about $1/1MB so it is totally not worth it.
May be worth looking into because it wouldn't surprise me if their new "service" is screwing things up.
I am aware of 3G voice but the 3G status icon is related to data flow. I have had the phone since launch and posted this because this behavior is not normal. Even Google was perplexed by what it is doing. And as I said it is not constrained by the 4636 settings.
And I disagree that an app can use the network connection as they see fit. Rights are given to perform its intended purpose; anything else is malicious.
Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone knows if when I connect to the internet using a WIFI connection (whether its one I own or a public one)...does that count as "data usage" on my bill?
The reason I ask is because I'm on tmobile and a most of you probably already know, they lowered the cap to 5gbs of data a month and after you go past that limit you'll still have data connection but it'll be super slow (most likely EDGE speeds) until your new billing cycle begins. I'm currently at 4.8gbs already (watching youtube videos, using the internet, xda, etc) so I want to know if I can use an open WIFI connection without worrying about going past 5gbs.
Thanks.
no it wont count as data usage.
britoso said:
no it wont count as data usage.
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Thank you britoso
make sure you go to Wifi advance settings and select "Wifi sleep policy" accordingly (I suggest to put it on "Never")
If you don't do so, Android will turn off Wifi and switch to mobile data when your screen is off or not plugged in.
houzuoguo said:
make sure you go to Wifi advance settings and select "Wifi sleep policy" accordingly (I suggest to put it on "Never")
If you don't do so, Android will turn off Wifi and switch to mobile data when your screen is off or not plugged in.
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Thank you, I'll make sure I do that then.
note that the wifi sleep policy will only work if you are running FRG83 (2.2.1) unless you are VERY lucky to not experience the bug on 2.2
edit: nvm just saw you're running CM 6.1 ^^
mobile data
also if you really want to not use any of your mobile data you can go to settings>wireless and networks>mobile network settings and turn off data, then you will only use data over wifi and won't use any more data
Use app 3G Watchdog to monitor & manage your 3G data.
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Use app 3G Watchdog to monitor & manage your 3G data.
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Thank you so much, i wasn't aware of an app like this. But it'll be so useful to me.
Hi,
I use New Zealand Vodafone, and prepay plan for 3g,
it is only 100mb per month, and when I turned on my 3g about 2 hours, and my vodafone widget showed me 10mb used.
however, I did not touch my phone at all, and 10mb internet usage gone.
I know there are little bit traffic even if I don't use, but 10mb is a lot.
When I used Nexus S there was no issue with 3g, and 100mb was enough..!!!
So, I would ask any guys have had measure 3g usage?
all depends on what apps you are running etc
yeah.. main thing is the background apps. i hope there is some way to find out which apps are using internet at the background.
what you can do is press the power button for a second and you'll get a menu. just deactivate data connection. activate it only when you need something. but obviously, this means you wont get any real time incoming messages from messenger apps. but still you save a lot of data usage.. and battery
There is 3g watch dog or something application is there, you can get idea which application consuming how much data.
100MB is enough??
I'm on a 1GB 3G plan and its been 10 days or so 300mb is already gone and i'm not using the fone for youtube or something. Its just emails, Latitude social networking and whatspping.
I barely use my wifi now as 3G is much faster
This must be a joke right? 2gb a months i have which is quite terrible. Switching to unlimited network soon.
100mb/month? Get a different phone. Without proper internet you disrespect 80% of Note's great functionality!!
Seriously, get some internet
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valtersboze said:
This must be a joke right? 2gb a months i have which is quite terrible. Switching to unlimited network soon.
100mb/month? Get a different phone. Without proper internet you disrespect 80% of Note's great functionality!!
Seriously, get some internet
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Come on guys. Those kind of deals are not available in New Zealand. How about more useful answers than "have reality be different" ;-)
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In that case just disable data network and use only wifi :/
You can install some network tracker to see which apps use net. Turn off auto updating in abdroid market for all apps
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Wow only 100mb!
I have a limit of 1000mb, which can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but if you use WiFi at home, it is not a big issue.
Anyways, as the others said, use an app to track what uses the data.
I use sometimes only 2-5MB per day with normal use.
I use My Data Manager to keep track of my use , it is a great program, it shows the usage in the drop down menu
Try netcounter or 3g watch dog apps, you can set your own daily weekly monthly alerts, think 3g watch dog can be linked to app called apndroid to cut off usage when limits crossed. But in your situation best to switch off mobile network from settings menu to avoid excessive data charges.
For example I crossed 500 Mb today in less than half hour downloading some games and additional files from gameloft.
Use opera mini browser for decreasing data use when browsing and don't use stock browser when using mobile network.use stock browser only when on wifi in your scenario.switch off all synching in settings menu.switch off roaming in menu as well.but then doing all this you limit the devices capabilities but you have got to do what you need to do to suit your predicament
We have 2gb for 10$/month and 10gb for 20$/month, I think I'm switching to 10gb because I still feel like I limit myself
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Yes 100 MB is quite less, n difficult to manage, when you have lovely G-Note on your Hand.
I am using 500MB/month plan. but actually i do have wifi access at both Home n Work place. I simply managed it with app phoneweaver. It turns on wifi n turns off when i am reaching n leaving from these places. In addition it swithoff data + wifi both just after few min of my sleeping time, as well turns on just before i wakeup.
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Come on guys. Those kind of deals are not available in New Zealand. How about more useful answers than "have reality be different" ;-)
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It might be useful to consider a COMBINATION of options:
1. Consider switing to a 2G network connection if available, as the same is much cheaper than a 3G in your area. Needless to mention, u will have to compromise the speed while on 2G
2. Use Wifi, is appropriate places, and as suggested by Dr.Ketan, u may use apps like phoneweaver etc. to manage the location based switing of wifi/ data network
3. Use apps like 3Gwatchdog to monitor your apps and kill unnecessary data hogers
4. and yes, if u love your note, U MUST HAVE DATA NETWORK or WIFI connection always ON, as or else... u know u are not optimizing you investment on note
5: Last but not the least: I believe, if u can afford a superb device like note, then I am sure its just a matter of "state of mind" to UPGRADE and get ADAPTED to a good 3G scheme. (am based in India, and I am on Vodafone 3G plan of 3GB per month, and I pay INR 850 (thats about USD 16.7 per month), and initially I thought this was too much I am used to this "state of mind"..... just give this a thought my friend
Power Button and Switch "Data Network Mode" off. Forever.
I don't know how you guys survive with 100MB per month. They shouldn't even have a plan like that.
I was able to adapt my non-smartphone data plan to the gNote on ATT
So unlimited costs me 15$/month
I use at least 15GB a month.
I have activated 3G service on my note. Got the 2gb for Rs 450 plan. I have noticed that there is a huge difference between the usage shown my 3g watchdog (and settings>data usage) and Airtel records (by *123*11#). If I use "Internet" browser just for a minute of casual browsing and close the browser, then upon checking the balance on airtel it shows I've used 9-15mb within a minute whereas 3g watchdog reports a much realistic usage. The difference is nearly 10 times.
I have tried searching a lot online. Have got tips like restricting background usage of apps to wifi only and disabling automatic backup and restore. Have done all that and yet the problem continues.
What could be he problem? I'm totally at a loss. Its been just 3 days and I've hardly used 3g since I have wifi at home and yet as pet airtel records I have used more than 400mb. No videos or songs were downloaded and no YouTube.
Have any of you guys noticed such a huge difference between the usage reported by your device and operator? A few kb here and there is fine but 4mb cannot be reported as 40mb! Please help.
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I'm sorry.. I haven't mentioned my device details. I'm on official Indian 4.0.4 rom. No root nothing.
Don't have many apps installed. Just regular stuff.. Facebook.. whatsapp.. opera mini.. and some more.
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Same problem with me here in Delhi. Casually use internet just for browsing. But, the data usage is always way too high. I think it is a problem with the Airtel servers not the galaxy note.
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I use 3g on my note in Mumbai(Airtel) with the same plan that you have mentioned. I have tried many data counters apps and settled on onavo because it gives me the closest value that you get on *121*11#. Still when onavo reaches 80-85% my plan gets over and they start charging per kb. But your case sounds too extreme. If as you say u don't have many apps and have no mods or custom rom then its Airtel to blame.
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For the first time I have activated 3G service on my note. Got the 2gb for Rs 450 plan. I have noticed that there is a huge difference between the usage shown my 3g watchdog (and settings>data usage) and Airtel records (by *123*11#). If I use "Internet" browser just for a minute of casual browsing and close the browser, then upon checking the balance on airtel it shows I've used 9-15mb within a minute whereas 3g watchdog reports a much realistic usage. The difference is nearly 10 times.
I have tried searching a lot online. Have got tips like restricting background usage of apps to wifi only and disabling automatic backup and restore. Have done all that and yet the problem continues.
What could be he problem? I'm totally at a loss. Its been just 3 days and I've hardly used 3g since I have wifi at home and yet as pet airtel records I have used more than 400mb. No videos or songs were downloaded and no YouTube.
Have any of you guys noticed such a huge difference between the usage reported by your device and operator? A few kb here and there is fine but 4mb cannot be reported as 40mb! Please help.
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What about the inbuilt data usage counter in ICS? Does it show the correct usage?
Thats way too extreme bro even I'm from Calcutta although I don't use Airtel cos their network sucks at my place.
It seems the apps are eating up all your bandwidth. I am on Aircel 3G and don't have problem like yours.
Since you tried all the possible methods all I can suggest you to keep Data Network Mode deactivated when you not using it and also switch to GSM mode.
Use 3G mode only when you plan to use it because androids are way to net savvy
Atleast that way it won't be able to use the high speed network and you can still save a lot of your data.
I too noted the difference between the third party app and the stock one. As soon as i installed a third party one the stock showed very little activity. Just use the stock data monitory and track your usage and also switch to 2G when u dont need 3G to save battery and usage. Also the *121*11# dosnt seem to be working for me? I am too on Airtel (postpaid)
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I too noted the difference between the third party app and the stock one. As soon as i installed a third party one the stock showed very little activity. Just use the stock data monitory and track your usage and also switch to 2G when u dont need 3G to save battery and usage. Also the *121*11# dosnt seem to be working for me? I am too on Airtel (postpaid)
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in my case a third party data monitor app 3g watchdog and stock ics data monitor show nearly the same usage.. difference of .01-.10 KB maybe. Try *123*11#. That shows very very high usage.
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What about the inbuilt data usage counter in ICS? Does it show the correct usage?
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Please read my reply to the quote above.
v4uluv2004 said:
Thats way too extreme bro even I'm from Calcutta although I don't use Airtel cos their network sucks at my place.
It seems the apps are eating up all your bandwidth. I am on Aircel 3G and don't have problem like yours.
Since you tried all the possible methods all I can suggest you to keep Data Network Mode deactivated when you not using it and also switch to GSM mode.
Use 3G mode only when you plan to use it because androids are way to net savvy
Atleast that way it won't be able to use the high speed network and you can still save a lot of your data.
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I don't gave that many apps.. lol.. what will eat bandwidth? Haha.. surprisingly in 2g mode on a 2g plan the data usage reported is somewhat believable.
Any kolkata users using 3g on operators besides airtel and aircel? Vodafone maybe? I'm thinking of porting out to vodafone.
I talked to an airtel representative and he's like go to a relationship centre and prove it first and only then we will check. I really don't think I have the time for that.
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People actually use the 3g data plans?? there are other ways to get 3g .
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I recommend to root your phone and get LBE Privacy Guard or even LBE Security Manager from the corresponding xda thread. It let's you restrict internet acces for every app. I use Security Manager since it offers an option to set up certain apps so you are asked if they should be allowed to access internet. Privacy Guard only offers the possinility to allow or deny internet access permanently.
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I'm a little wary about rooting. What I'm planning to do is to try our sim cards of different networks in kolkata and see whether the problem persists or not. If yes then obviously something is wrong with my note. If not then its Airtel's mistake and I'd port out to that operator which does fairbl billing, retaining my existing number. I dont really see any other option left.
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OK. I tried his. On my 3g plan, I started using GSM ONLY mode from network options. Now I believe the note will connect only to EDGE and not 3g, right?
With this in mind I browsed 3-4 pages on tumblr for about a minute and disconnected. My operator shows 9.5mb of usage in a minute of browsing! Is that even possible on EDGE? Can I use 9.5mb of data in one minute with speeds offered on Edge?
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No it's not possible. Edge offers a data rate of 384 kbit/s. 384 * 60 /1000 / 8 = 2.88 MB. You should definitely contact your provider.
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I have a Galaxy Note with 4.0.4 rooted. Life mobile (EE)
I have a 1gb data plan, I have had a problem with this for the last 4 months, I only use my data plan when away from home and no access to wifi,but all other times i turn it OFF, but lately at 2400hr or 0:00hr midnight something turns on my data plan and upload/download data, no way of telling large amounts of data sometimes as big as 199mg at one time..
I have gone through 1gb of data within 1wk of limited data use,facebook,mail,whatsapp,most of the time using Wifi.
It seem i am not the only one this is happening to (check your data usage via your provider phone account),there are many cases on the internet, but no one has found the real reason,a lot has pointed to the sim provider ???
Can someone throw some light on this..
I never knew that Data plan can be automatically be turn on then off by app on a phone...
Data conection always OFF
WiFi when I can get it On
thanks you
I'd guess a rogue app, turning on data
Not sure if this will work as don't have the N7000 in front of me & not even 100% sure "data" will show in Android 6 due to app permission changes in Marshmallow, it might be under device or something.......
Go to settings>apps>gear wheel>app permissions
then look for data permission touch it to see & change which apps have premission to turn data on & off