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Alright, I really need some help from the big boys here.
I have had my N1 since release. I have T-Mobile and no data plan. Everything I do is over wifi.
On Friday, I saw the 3g icon on my phone for the first time. It appeared out of nowhere and just flips between 3G and E since T-Mobile just blocks data for non-plan users. This was killing the battery life of the phone.
I called Google and they ran me through *#*#4636#*#* to disable the data connection. This fixed the problem for a while; However after a while the phone will give a message that there is no service provider and will reconnect to T-Mobile (it has never done this before outside of phone boots). When it is back up the 3G/E cycling starts again. Even worse the data connection still lists as disabled and will not re-enable. I have to pop the battery out while it is running to get back in to disable it.
Google thinks its an app but I have removed everything but Touchdown and K9 which I don't think are the problem. I have used Android OS Monitor and I do see connections to 64.15.75.218 and 209.44.107.13 which are hot beds for malware and when I uninstall any app these connections vanish temporarily. But they come back after a few hours.
Anyone seen this before or know a way to track IP connections to a particular app?
I have no solution for tracing 'malicious' software but it is possible to just disable all mobile data usage.
Settings/Wireless and network settings/ Mobile networks > "Data enabled"
If you unselect this there should be no more data transfer while on the mobile network.
I do not have that option. Google Rep said it was only in froyo.
Problem is I did the same thing for 2.1 but it keeps coming back on. Even with wifi the phone connects to these ips so who knows what it is doing.
3G isn't used only for data, you can do voice on 3G.
Could be T-Mobile expanding 3g into your are where you didn't have coverage before.
Call T-Mobile and make sure you're not actually using data.
As for tracking applications, you can use System Panel Pro of the market to monitor how much data applications are using.
I know I am not using data. The T-Mobile account page is pretty detailed and I am unable to do anything online when wifi is off. 3G has also been available for a while here as I know others that use it.
I will check out system panel.
Thanks.
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I do not have that option. Google Rep said it was only in froyo.
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It is indeed only on Froyo, however, Froyo is out now, so install it and you'll instantly benefit.
A few more things:
Were you receiving or sending MMS (picture/video messages) when the 3G icon popped up? This is normal and doesn't usually come out of your data balance.
If you'd like to be triple-sure you're not using data, go into the APN settings. Edit the APN name - e.g. change tmobile.com to nomobile.com. Now it *really* shouldn't be able to access data.
Smarphones would be well to do to have a Zonealarm/little snitch type app for this purpose.
Id imagine ad based apps wouldnt be too happy about it. At the least an app that reports IPs times , and IN/OUT info.
I never use SMS or mms and have not gotten any during this time.
My concern is not related to getting charges but with unwanted use of my phone or data. When the data connection auto enables it will go through my battery in a matter or hours and who knows what the phone may be doing.
I know I can turn this off and make sure data is not used - in fact I have already done this. However when smoke enters room you don't just put a towel under the door and forget about it. I want to find the source of this and stop it because the behavior is not normal.
I agree something like zone alarm would be good. You should be able prevent or track an app activities for situations like this. If I knew what was connecting to these IPs and enabling the data connection I could stop it and report the app or submit a bug request. Right now I am just all alone.
I did try system panel which seems like a nice app but it does not give me good information on network usage by app. OSMonitor is better at connection monitoring but doesn't list by app. Why has no one thought to monitor network threads by app?
Try alogcat maybe? Any time you notice the icon suddenly appearing, save a copy of the logcat and comb through it.
alogcat may work. Figured out OSMonitor had something similar and filtered by app.
Now I just gotta wait I guess. Still not enough info to relate to IP though.
You should know that the data connection setting isn't an enforcement for the entire phone. It only acts as a notice to applications on whether or not to use data in the background.
Developers are supposed to respect those settings, but they are not enforced.
There is a free program called Network Statistics which is no longer in the market. I will backup the apk for you and upload it so you can use it. It shows the amount of data used by each app.
I too had a data hungry app issue and this helped me solve it immediately.
I'm just at work ATM, so I'll do it this evening. (Almost midday now here in Australia )
Cheers,
Ross
@JCopernicus
I am aware of this which is why I want to track this problem down.
@Ross
That sounds great. I appreciate the help. Not sure if tracking data usage is enough since I don't think the app is sending a lot of data. But I am willing to try anything.
I should be getting froyo soon so maybe that will help as well.
This is what I do when I want to ensure I don't use Data. Go I. To wireless connections. Mobile Networks, and then access points. Create a new one. I usually call it No Data. The for the apn, I just make something dumb, like no.data.com, and then save. After I'll select that as my apn.
The issue is not about the use of the data connection. I have done this and can guarantee the phone cannot use any cell data network. The problem is an app is trying to use it anyway even when it is disabled. Even if you ignore that as a concerning activity the constant 3G searching reduces the battery life to a mere hours.
I appreciate the help, but my issue is not with how to disable the data connection. Its about identifying malware on my device, and tracking an app calls to a specific IP.
Again,k 3g doesn't mean data. 3g is also used for voice.
If you only want to use "2g" switch your phone over to gsm only through 4636 or through the menu where it says "use 2g only".
You will never see the 3g icon again.
If you wan't to be 100% sure no app is calling an IP, then do a factory reset. Install apps one by one, monitor them through the various options given in this thread already.
You will not be able to prevent an application from "calling home" unless you modify the app itself. Apps use the data connection provided to them by the OS however they see fit.
Every app you install has a permissions prompt that will tell you it want's internet access.
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Again,k 3g doesn't mean data. 3g is also used for voice.
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The Android "3G", "H", "E" or "G" icon denotes data. It may also appear temporarily when making the connection necessary to transmit MMS. It does not appear when the phone is using voice over 3G without a data connection.
Actually, this may be a T-Mobile issue - they just enabled the ability to do "pay as you go" data on ALL plans without a data plan, so they may be the ones turning on the ability to do data. You'd still need to authorize it in your browser, and I think it costs about $1/1MB so it is totally not worth it.
May be worth looking into because it wouldn't surprise me if their new "service" is screwing things up.
I am aware of 3G voice but the 3G status icon is related to data flow. I have had the phone since launch and posted this because this behavior is not normal. Even Google was perplexed by what it is doing. And as I said it is not constrained by the 4636 settings.
And I disagree that an app can use the network connection as they see fit. Rights are given to perform its intended purpose; anything else is malicious.
I have the Galaxy S I9000
If I turn on the Wifi and its got a signal, will that take over from my Network usage on the broadband.
I only download emails to my phone (7 Accounts) but this month my Usage has been very high.
Normally each month reads 830Mb/1GB (Mb's left/Allowance) Give or take 50Mb
This month it was 131.33Mb/1Gb
I don't know where the usage has gone as I'm doing nothing different then before.
Most of my usage is 5-30 Kb with the odd 600 Kb
I checked my data usage over 4 days and its averaging about 2.8Mb a day. I can't see how I have used almost 1Gb for a month.
The only things added to the phone in the last month was Amazon Kindle/Xbox Live and PowerAMP
When I download a book from Amazon I always turn on my WiFi and have 3-4 bars.
Is my phone using my Network Data usage even though I have the WiFi on.
PS my wife has 1 email address on her phone and see never uses her data for anything other then checking her Gmail. She only had 17 simple text emails last month and here usage was also reading 133.78Mb/1Gb. I can't see how she has used up her quota for the month.
Both phone are on separate accounts and connected to the METEOR IRELAND network.
If I turn on the Wifi and its got a signal, will that take over from my Network usage on the broadband.
Not unless you turn the mobile data OFF >. suggest quick settings from the market .
I only download emails to my phone (7 Accounts) but this month my Usage has been very high.
Smartphone is data always on and background sync and apps use data 24 hours .
Unless turned off >. Quick settings mobile data off unless needed .
jje
I installed Quick Settings and turned off mobile data but left on MMS data.
Thanks for the help with this. It means that I can now disable mobile data quickly when I'm in a wifi hot spot.
Because everything loads quickly when my WiFi is on (A lot quicker then when its off) I assumed it was not using mobile data at all. Silly me
Just carried out a little test on the phone using Quick Settings.
I turned off WiFi and enabled mobile data, I then turned on WiFi and the Mobile Data automatically disconnected when the WiFi was enabled.
I'm not sure if it always did this or if its only since in installed quick settings.
If Mobile Data does not switch off then in quick settings you can use Mobile Data APN as the preferred setting for on /off .
I am using Auto Wifi toggle with quick settings to aid battery life .
http://www.appbrain.com/app/auto-wifi-toggle/com
jje
I cant explain your problem, but I use a program called Tasker that might solve your issue.
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/
I have it set to turn on 3G when I unlock the screen and turn it off again when the screen turns off. I also turn on 3G for two minutes every 30 minutes and auto-sync my email.
With this program you can also set you WiFi to turn on based on your location and a host of other things. There is a 7 day trial in the Market.
I installed 3G watchdog about a month ago and I have been keeping an eye on my data usage.
Since the month started I have only used about 10mb. This its consistent with every other month since I got the phone.
I think the high usage last month was a network issue. Its something I'm going to have to keep an eye on as I don't want the buggers charging me for something I haven't used.
hi all ...for some reason all my credit just vanished!! it's RM14 worth of credit! and i just top up YESTERDAY!! my heart sank when i tried to call a few of my friends to hang out and i cant call any of them .. so i called USDD to check my credit and it's RM0.01 ..man ...so ..why does my credit drained so dam fast?? i full wiped my phone a second ago and i did realized my Data Enabled is enabled ( ironic) ..and i suspect it drained my credit...in a nutshell , what things in my phone will drain my credit? man my phone just revived from a hard brick few days ago and now my credit gone out of a sudden ...
Basic things u should know about android....
-it drains credit if data is enabled (i lost rm10 the first time i get my phone)
-almost all background apps want to connect to the net
Solutions:
-switch off data enabled,but u may need to switch it on to send n rceive mms
-to prevent credit loss when trying to receive mms,download apndroid...
Tips:
-dont ever think of surfing the net without an internet package...
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crap..when i installed GDX data transfer is enabled immedieatly and i leave it on for like 5mins then i off it..and it drained RM14 already ...holy crap ..still why do we need internet package when we have wifi?
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crap..when i installed GDX data transfer is enabled immedieatly
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Non-affirmative, Sir. After a FRESH install of GingerDX with the suggested Full-Wipe NOTHING is enabled ... NOT mobile data - NOT Wifi.
Even IF Wifi would be enabled by default it wouldn't be able to connect UNLESS you didn't encrypt your WLAN (WPA/WPA2 passphrase encryption).
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and i leave it on for like 5mins then i off it..and it drained RM14 already ...holy crap ..still why do we need internet package when we have wifi?
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Well, I'd rather say you may have installed some pirated software that contains some malware which is busily sending SMS without you knowing OR spamming the Internet through the mobile data connection (be glad that you seem to have a pre-paid plan ... otherwise it could turn out WAY worse if you get a HUGE bill by the end of the month).
At any rate, if you TURN OFF mobile data then there's no way in bloody hell that an app can utlilize ANY mobile data (no 3G data connection established, no game). However, if you want to hard-disable it ... EITHER clear your APNs OR install "APN Kill" (you will also loose MMS functionality) which 3G Watchdog uses as a helper to cut off 3G once the Quota is reached (for flatrate mobile data plans).
Also, set applications to "Only on Wifi" whereever possible.
tohno said:
crap..when i installed GDX data transfer is enabled immedieatly and i leave it on for like 5mins then i off it..and it drained RM14 already ...holy crap ..still why do we need internet package when we have wifi?
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The data is always on when u flasoh a new rom. I know coz im a hardcore rom tester.Usually if the APN is set automatically by the rom,it will drain ur credit.
Well, i suggest the internet package if there is no wifi. I also hardly use internet package,always stick with wifi but the wifi at my college sucks hell,so sometimes i use ingernet package
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maliceomalice said:
The data is always on when u flasoh a new rom. I know coz im a hardcore rom tester. Usually if the APN is set automatically by the rom,it will drain ur credit.
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If you say so ...
In this case it would seem my X8 was doing some applied magic all by itself. While the APNs are there (auto-config through the mobile network) the actual 3G data connection was NEVER turned on by default; not with the Stock ROM, not with Froyobread, not with GingerDX.
Ok, chances are it could be dependent on the mobile carrier, but that's another story entirely.
again..thanks BJ! so in a sense i should download wtchdog 3G to disable any kind of money oriented activity in my phone ? and where can i turn off the mobile data?erm..i do download a few apk files now and then ...but i don't think it will eat my credit ...oh and i don't have any mobile plans ..
1 more..will 3g eat my credit? since i am only 16 and all these money oriented stuff is not needed ...my parents will kill me if i do so
Sorry, memory failed me ...
The application 3G Watchdog uses to kill the 3G data connection is APNDroid (PAYWARE!)
3G Watchdog itself is a app that is counting how much traffic passed over your 3G data connection (upload/download). Since it's a watchdog it can warn and even disable the 3G connection if you're about to surpass the quota of your mobile data plan.
As a usage scenario example ...
I've got 15GB/Month mobile data.
3G Watchdog (Pro, in my case) is set to ...
- Reset the counter every 18th of the month
- Throw a warning once the quota is at 85% (of the allowed 15GB)
- DISABLE the 3G connection (by using blocking with APNDroid) once the quota is at 95% (to accomodate for inaccuracies).
This means that you can't establish a data connection UNTIL the counter gets reset at the 18th.
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tohno said:
1 more..will 3g eat my credit? since i am only 16 and all these money oriented stuff is not needed ...my parents will kill me if i do so
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Depends on what kind of plan your phone has.
1. If you are on a pre-paid plan with NO data plan included BUT data not blocked...
Yes, in this case the mobile operator will charge you a certain amount per Megabyte or Gigabyte transferred (ask the support of your mobile operator or ask your dad).
2. If you are on a pre-paid plan WITH a data plan included ...
You won't be charged for as long as you stay within your monthly traffic allowance (called "quota"). If you bust through the amount and your mobile operator does not kill the data connection due to being "over quota" they will, of course, charge you for the amount of extra traffic you caused.
3. If you're on a subscribed plan with NO data plan BUT data not blocked...
See "1"
4. If you're on a subscribed plan WITH a data plan included ...
See "2"
just downloaded 3g watchdog ...and looks very complicated ...i will get to it later , still i don't have a mobile plan ...all my downloads are from wifi and today i downloaded about 20songs? all from my wifi ..and my wifi is pretty sick ! so my mouth dropped when my credit just went to 0 ....and i don't even know what i done
if i am right..i think i used about 150mb + worth of quota? but this never happened to me before ( i used to use a x10mini) and even though my credit is 0 i am still able to access to the internet and download apps ...so why did i lose my credit? is it virus?
tohno said:
just downloaded 3g watchdog ...and looks very complicated ...i will get to it later
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Not really, it's actually pretty easy to setup.
tohno said:
still i don't have a mobile plan ...all my downloads are from wifi and today i downloaded about 20songs? all from my wifi ..and my wifi is pretty sick !
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If you connect to the internet through your private internet connection there's no way you will be charged for the traffic...
tohno said:
so my mouth dropped when my credit just went to 0 ....and i don't even know what i done
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...unless you really had your 3G connection enabled (as in "turned on" and as in "connected"). Since Android is based on Linux the system will ALWAYS use the network interface which got initialized latest.
If you have WiFi enabled and you additionally turn on the 3G connection, then all traffic will pass through 3G until you disconnect again. This is not a bug but related to the design of most operating systems.
tohno said:
if i am right..i think i used about 150mb + worth of quota? but this never happened to me before (i used to use a x10mini) and even though my credit is 0 i am still able to access to the internet and download apps ...so why did i lose my credit? is it virus?
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Well, if you transferred ~150MB on a phone plan that does not contain ANY data at all, then it's very likely that you drained your pre-paid credit with these 150MB (assuming the traffic went over the 3G connection because it was turned on and connected without you noticing - that's why I had the "3G connection" icon added into the status bar of GingerDX ... 3G / Wifi / BlueTooth / GPS / Speaker at the top when pulling down the status bar ... alternatively you could also add the "Powermanagement" widget to your homescreen to have a visual feedback about what's enabled and what's not).
oh ..got it ..but will 3g eat my credit? and oddly enough ..my data transfer seems to enable itself a few minutes ago ..is this a virus?
tohno said:
oh ..got it ..but will 3g eat my credit? and oddly enough ..my data transfer seems to enable itself a few minutes ago ..is this a virus?
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If it's voice or mms trough 3g then no, it won't eat credit.. only data will. And no, if you disable data transfer, it doesn't turn on by it self.
Tip: if you want to have data enabled all the time so you can receive mms's but you don't want it to access the internet, just go to your APN settings and change the APN field to something invalid. For ex: My APN name is net2.vodafone.pt, if i rename it to net2.vodalolol.pt, the phone will never make a successful connection and it won't waste my money.
There are some apps that to this.. I use APN Portugal, it can configure my connection but it also has a button and a widget do "Turn the internet down" without disabling data transfer. I actually don't need this in stock rom because i can send and receive mms with data disable, only custom rom's need this.
Edit: What APN Portugal does when you press "Disable internet" is adding "#apnportugal" to the apn field, like "net2.vodafone.pt#apnportugal" making it invalid.. you get the idea.
See if it's 3G Watchdog that is enabling your data..
This happened to me before. I lost €20. Worth of credit :0
Luckily in my country my network has a plan for students:
Top up by €20 every month and get
- 10GB Mobile Data
- 10GB Data for a Laptop (USB stick thingy).
It works for me: D
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Nikkopt said:
And no, if you disable data transfer, it doesn't turn on by it self.
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Amen.
Nikkopt said:
See if it's 3G Watchdog that is enabling your data..
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Nope, 3G Watchdog is a PASSIVE software only MONITORING the traffic that happens to pass through the 3G data connection - the application has NO MEANS to enable the connection by itself.
You know, if, for example, the (custom) ROM or some software would do fancy things like enabling the data connection by itself just because "it feels like it" you can safely expect me to post a well-worded bug report (I leave it to your imagination to put "well-worded" into the right perspective) into the developers direction and not recommending such crap of a software in any way, shape or form.
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oh ..got it ..but will 3g eat my credit? and oddly enough ..my data transfer seems to enable itself a few minutes ago ..is this a virus?
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As Nikkopt already said ... voice or MMS will not eat your credit as that should be part of your phone plan.
Mobile data (the 3G Internet connection) is another topic. Again: if your phone plan does NOT have a data plan attached, and your mobile operator is also NOT blocking internet access, then this will eat up your credit like wild (that's where most of the mobile operators make their money by ripping off unsuspecting customers having a smartphone with a unfitting plan).
However, if you don't even have a slight clue about what kind of phone plan you actually got, it would be about time you take your dad and sit down by the table to straighten this thing out.
so i topped up rm10 today ...and GDX crashed so i reformat it =( ..when i open it , GDX immedieatly enabled data transfer something about opts-in thing ...i turn it off and check my credit RM8.99 ...WTH?
Well...already told u that android apps want to connect to the net all the time. That opt thing is the android notification service (in my term),it will ask u once when u have internet connection...its not that important.
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ARRR i lost RM4 today! wad the !?? RM4 is alot ! i off 3G ! off data transfer but my credit is still dying ..! what things (?) in my phone uses credit?? i full wiped my phone installing 11 apps so far check ussd and well i lost rm4! what is going on? or does all phones has a mobile quota? shouldn't wifi be free?
tohno said:
so i topped up rm10 today ...and GDX crashed so i reformat it =( ..when i open it , GDX immedieatly enabled data transfer something about opts-in thing ...i turn it off and check my credit RM8.99 ...WTH?
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To be honest, the first time i installed GDX it happened to me too.. How did i fix it? Every time i installed a new rom, i removed the SIM card until the installation was complete
Are you using non-market apps? (Cracked versions?)
erm..yea ...i do use crack version of apps (apk?)
Hi,
I use New Zealand Vodafone, and prepay plan for 3g,
it is only 100mb per month, and when I turned on my 3g about 2 hours, and my vodafone widget showed me 10mb used.
however, I did not touch my phone at all, and 10mb internet usage gone.
I know there are little bit traffic even if I don't use, but 10mb is a lot.
When I used Nexus S there was no issue with 3g, and 100mb was enough..!!!
So, I would ask any guys have had measure 3g usage?
all depends on what apps you are running etc
yeah.. main thing is the background apps. i hope there is some way to find out which apps are using internet at the background.
what you can do is press the power button for a second and you'll get a menu. just deactivate data connection. activate it only when you need something. but obviously, this means you wont get any real time incoming messages from messenger apps. but still you save a lot of data usage.. and battery
There is 3g watch dog or something application is there, you can get idea which application consuming how much data.
100MB is enough??
I'm on a 1GB 3G plan and its been 10 days or so 300mb is already gone and i'm not using the fone for youtube or something. Its just emails, Latitude social networking and whatspping.
I barely use my wifi now as 3G is much faster
This must be a joke right? 2gb a months i have which is quite terrible. Switching to unlimited network soon.
100mb/month? Get a different phone. Without proper internet you disrespect 80% of Note's great functionality!!
Seriously, get some internet
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valtersboze said:
This must be a joke right? 2gb a months i have which is quite terrible. Switching to unlimited network soon.
100mb/month? Get a different phone. Without proper internet you disrespect 80% of Note's great functionality!!
Seriously, get some internet
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Come on guys. Those kind of deals are not available in New Zealand. How about more useful answers than "have reality be different" ;-)
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In that case just disable data network and use only wifi :/
You can install some network tracker to see which apps use net. Turn off auto updating in abdroid market for all apps
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Wow only 100mb!
I have a limit of 1000mb, which can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but if you use WiFi at home, it is not a big issue.
Anyways, as the others said, use an app to track what uses the data.
I use sometimes only 2-5MB per day with normal use.
I use My Data Manager to keep track of my use , it is a great program, it shows the usage in the drop down menu
Try netcounter or 3g watch dog apps, you can set your own daily weekly monthly alerts, think 3g watch dog can be linked to app called apndroid to cut off usage when limits crossed. But in your situation best to switch off mobile network from settings menu to avoid excessive data charges.
For example I crossed 500 Mb today in less than half hour downloading some games and additional files from gameloft.
Use opera mini browser for decreasing data use when browsing and don't use stock browser when using mobile network.use stock browser only when on wifi in your scenario.switch off all synching in settings menu.switch off roaming in menu as well.but then doing all this you limit the devices capabilities but you have got to do what you need to do to suit your predicament
We have 2gb for 10$/month and 10gb for 20$/month, I think I'm switching to 10gb because I still feel like I limit myself
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Yes 100 MB is quite less, n difficult to manage, when you have lovely G-Note on your Hand.
I am using 500MB/month plan. but actually i do have wifi access at both Home n Work place. I simply managed it with app phoneweaver. It turns on wifi n turns off when i am reaching n leaving from these places. In addition it swithoff data + wifi both just after few min of my sleeping time, as well turns on just before i wakeup.
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Come on guys. Those kind of deals are not available in New Zealand. How about more useful answers than "have reality be different" ;-)
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It might be useful to consider a COMBINATION of options:
1. Consider switing to a 2G network connection if available, as the same is much cheaper than a 3G in your area. Needless to mention, u will have to compromise the speed while on 2G
2. Use Wifi, is appropriate places, and as suggested by Dr.Ketan, u may use apps like phoneweaver etc. to manage the location based switing of wifi/ data network
3. Use apps like 3Gwatchdog to monitor your apps and kill unnecessary data hogers
4. and yes, if u love your note, U MUST HAVE DATA NETWORK or WIFI connection always ON, as or else... u know u are not optimizing you investment on note
5: Last but not the least: I believe, if u can afford a superb device like note, then I am sure its just a matter of "state of mind" to UPGRADE and get ADAPTED to a good 3G scheme. (am based in India, and I am on Vodafone 3G plan of 3GB per month, and I pay INR 850 (thats about USD 16.7 per month), and initially I thought this was too much I am used to this "state of mind"..... just give this a thought my friend
Power Button and Switch "Data Network Mode" off. Forever.
I don't know how you guys survive with 100MB per month. They shouldn't even have a plan like that.
I was able to adapt my non-smartphone data plan to the gNote on ATT
So unlimited costs me 15$/month
I use at least 15GB a month.
I am on my second T-Mo LG G4. Both have exhibited a strange behavior that is rather annoying. I've disabled all automatic sync features and the like - in the same manner as I've done successfully with both a Nexus 5 and a LS990 G3.
So here's the issue(s):
1) Whenever I boot the phone - it automatically turns mobile on. e.g. as indicated by "Data Enabled" quick toggle or the Android Setup slider control.
2) Most times when I enable WiFi, the phone (or whatever) systematically turns on mobile data again - and it's damn repeatable e.g. at ~ 15 seconds after I tap the WiFi quick toggle.
3) Most times when I am running off of WiFi, the mobile data will randomly come on by itself even after I hammered it off that first time in response to manually turning on WiFi.
Zero technical assistance from the obvious sources. LG points the finger at T-Mo. T-Mo points the finger at LG.
I'm starting to think this is related to the Lollipop API change crammed down everyone's throat by Google.
I'm on metered service and have grown accustomed to living off of WiFi. With prior phones I was in full control of what I've been charged. With the G4, it's nearly impossible to manage ...
Any thoughts, shared experiences or recommendations ?
Hmm, there is a setting that can automagically use LTE if the Wifi is detected not to have internet access. I can't think of what it's called at the moment but it's in setting somewhere - possibly WIFI settings.
I would also be sure to disable T-Mobile's "diagnostics" setting in the T-Mobile app and attempt to turn off any other monitoring settings contained within. I think there is a setting that monitors the LTE signal strength and that could be making it pop on.
Other than that, it does seem rather annoying for you! You are on T-Mobile though, didn't you get the 10GB data pass and have the unused data rollover? Another note, why not setup the data limiter in Data Usage to automagically turn off the data after X GB usage. I know it isn't a direct solution but if data usage is a concern, it could work as a workaround!
Hey, thanks for the response and suggestions.
To be clear, I'm on Ting's GSM network - which is serviced by T-Mo.
I'm well versed with Android and prior to this phone I was on a Nexus 5 with 5 .1 .1 and it didn't behave like this.
I've tried all the buried settings to get in front of "enabled" data on two different G4's but nothing is panning out.
And yes, I did think of that T-Mo diagnostics app and it's not enabled - at least not on the surface.
And one more thing, my WiFi is solidly connected when data goes rogue robot.
Hadn't considered the data cap setting. Seems clunky but might help until a custom ROM is available.
rockerrock said:
Hmm, there is a setting that can automagically use LTE if the Wifi is detected not to have internet access. I can't think of what it's called at the moment but it's in setting somewhere - possibly WIFI settings.
I would also be sure to disable T-Mobile's "diagnostics" setting in the T-Mobile app and attempt to turn off any other monitoring settings contained within. I think there is a setting that monitors the LTE signal strength and that could be making it pop on.
Other than that, it does seem rather annoying for you! You are on T-Mobile though, didn't you get the 10GB data pass and have the unused data rollover? Another note, why not setup the data limiter in Data Usage to automagically turn off the data after X GB usage. I know it isn't a direct solution but if data usage is a concern, it could work as a workaround!
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