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Angry at Google?

I think many of us (especially us Canadians who are still mostly N7-less) are pretty pissed off at how Google handled the pre-orders. I think many of you would agree that it's a reasonable expectation that pre-orders from the supplier should come before retailers are able to put theirs on the shelf. This is especially reasonable when you consider that we were charged 2-day shipping via UPS without any other alternative from Google. It has also been reported that some Canadians are getting 4-day shipping estimates even though they paid for supposed 2-day shipping.
I know that many of you will probably tell me to stop whining and just suck it up because they didn't break any promise as to the plain writing contractual agreement. But that doesn't mean that there are implicit expectations which should be met in good faith. This is especially true for a company that has a history of catering to its users and still holds the informal motto of "don't be evil".
I know that Google has always been a pretty open company and listened to feedback, and I still trust that they uphold these values. Is there anything we can do as a group of people to voice our opinions directly to them and let them know? I am sure that many of us are also developers hoping to get their first hands on the device as well. And I'm sure that Google would like to keep its developing community happy.
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I just wanted to say why I wrote the post. This is was not meant to be a rant. If you re-read the OP, you will see that I am actually looking for a way to collectively voice to Google our discontent. That's because I believe Google to be a high-quality company that listens to its users. And I do WANT to order from Google Play again for the next device, but not before helping them improve their process by vocalizing our disappointments to them.
A rant in itself is useless, but what I am looking for is a way to let Google know where they can improve so we can enjoy a better Play store in the future.

no point of pre-ordering if we are not given any exclusivity ><

Stop whining.
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Not mad at all, I am getting what I paid for.

It's funny when people say that they aren't upset that they over paid for a product that they'll get after people that didn't pre-order.
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ibopm said:
I think many of us (especially us Canadians who are still mostly N7-less) are pretty pissed off at how Google handled the pre-orders. I think many of you would agree that it's a reasonable expectation that pre-orders from the supplier should come before retailers are able to put theirs on the shelf. This is especially reasonable when you consider that we were charged 2-day shipping via UPS without any other alternative from Google. It has also been reported that some Canadians are getting 4-day shipping estimates even though they paid for supposed 2-day shipping.
I know that many of you will probably tell me to stop whining and just suck it up because they didn't break any promise as to the plain writing contractual agreement. But that doesn't mean that there are implicit expectations which should be met in good faith. This is especially true for a company that has a history of catering to its users and still holds the informal motto of "don't be evil".
I know that Google has always been a pretty open company and listened to feedback, and I still trust that they uphold these values. Is there anything we can do as a group of people to voice our opinions directly to them and let them know? I am sure that many of us are also developers hoping to get their first hands on the device as well. And I'm sure that Google would like to keep its developing community happy.
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awww big baby didnt get his shiny nexus 7 before everyone else *cries*.
Wah. get over it.

Maybe you should launch Angry Birds at them?

I'm a little upset I paid for the shipping from the play store when I could have e just ordered from games top.. Not pay the shipping and get my n7 sooner. It's not that big of a deal for me but everyone will forget later today when they get their devices.
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you got/will get it a week after everyone else. how will you manage to live?

Angry is probably too strong, but i'd have hoped (as with pre-ordering anything) that you'd at least get the thing delivered on launch day. Wouldn't expect to get it early necessarily and there are clear commercial reasons why this wouldn't go down well for a product thats being sold via third parties as well as from Google directly. And if the courier is struggling to keep up then its probably Google's fault for apparently giving regional exclusivity to any single company. After all, the likes of Amazon seem to cope quite well using multiple couriers and getting large volume launches of items out on time.
And certainly the communication side of things could've been alot better done than it has been, not to mention the customer services element for those who tried unsuccessfully to can pre-orders a week or more ago.

Isn't this what that OTHER thread is for?

ikn0wagh0st said:
Stop whining.
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infamousjax said:
awww big baby didnt get his shiny nexus 7 before everyone else *cries*.
Wah. get over it.
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Can't tell if trolls or just stupid.
Did either of you even read the OP? He had an extremely valid point. We paid for required two-day shipping, supposedly in an effort to receive our products on or before the day everyone else could receive theirs. Of course this was not guaranteed by Google, but the fact that it didn't happen makes it unlikely that I'll ever preorder another Google product unless they adapt the same philosophy used elsewhere, like Amazon and Apple.
I followed the rumors since the 370T, preordered within minutes of availability, paid extra for mandatory expedited shipping, and it's finally being delivered tonight. Folks simply wandered into stores last week and picked theirs up. That's not how it should work. I'm not whining - I just believe Google should handle things differently in the future.

infamousjax said:
awww big baby didnt get his shiny nexus 7 before everyone else *cries*.
Wah. get over it.
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That's not my point as Jiggavolt has also explained. I would gladly have paid $5 or $10 shipping to get 3-week shipping rather than the 2-day shipping. But since we were required to purchase $20 (Canadian) 2-day shipping (which turned out to NOT be 2-DAY shipping AT ALL), I think it's fair to say that I feel a little cheated. Beyond that, there are implicit expectations that have not really been followed through or at least communicated. Even a simple apology to say that they were a bit slow would satisfy me.
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Isn't this what that OTHER thread is for?
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No, I'm seeking an avenue to communicate discontent with Google in a collective way.

ibopm said:
No, I'm seeking an avenue to communicate discontent with Google in a collective way.
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Ha! Since you stated that so eloquently, I just can't argue with it

Yeah, I could see being upset, actually. I ended up just calling all of the Gamestop stores within 15 miles (probably 6 of them) before I found one that had one in stock.

I would be angry too, but mainly about the 2 day shipping issue. However, I believe that UPS is at fault here if they cannot deliver within two days, not Google. I did not want to pay for shipping so I picked mine up at Staples on Sunday.

It's easy. Next time Google comes out with another device. DO NOT ORDER FROM THE PLAY STORE no matter what they say. You will get PLAYED again. They named it the PLAY store for a reason.
In my mind, Google has botched the entire process from start to finish.
1. Mystery specs - for the longest time, nobody could figure out if it had MHL or HDMI out, USB OTG, external storage, etc. Even media sites were conflicted on these features.
2. Saying that it will only be available on the Played store when it wasn't.
3. Shipping to retailers FIRST before fulfilling their own pre-orders hoping that retailers will hold them for an unspecified amount of time.
4. Shipping devices in no discernible order (FIFO, LIFO), etc.
5. Shipping 8GB orders first before 16GB, and then 16GB before those that also bundled a case with it.
6. 2 day shipping questionable... existing posted screenshots showing estimated time of delivery of 4+ days confirms this.
7. Canada gets brown back and US gets black back. WTF?
8. No able to cancel orders and no response from e-mails (at least for emails from Canada).
9. No specific launch date except mid-July. It's mid-July already, and some haven't even seen movement on their orders.
10. No explanation from Google over this fiasco.
The only redeeming feature was the price.
I don't know if this is Asus' fault or not, but Google is to blame. I think what Google should have done is hold shipping to retailers until they fulfilled their own Played store pre-orders first. None of this "everyone gets it at the same time" crap... WE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T ORDER IT AT THE SAME TIME, so why go this route? If retailers don't have stock to sell, they can't sell it. However, if they do and it is taking up space, you can bet somebody is going to break the rule... esp. when there is no specific date to sell it.
The Played store is the premiere store for buying google branded devices. Google should make sure that when you order from there, you are at least guaranteed to get it the same time, if not earlier, than all other retailers at launch. Otherwise it is pointless to pay shipping when you could just walk to your local B&M and buy it right away for the same price - minus shipping. As it stands now, you would be a fool to order from the played store for the next device no matter how exclusive it will be.
The next time around, not ordering devices from the played store will be a good lesson for google.
If Steve Jobs were alive and this was an Apple product, he would have made it right by now. God rest his soul, he's probably laughing in his grave right now.

In the words of Justin Timberlake... Cry me a river.

I can't say I'm exactly thrilled over the situation. I found out Staples has them on the shelf right now. Meanwhile, I've received nothing from Google regarding my pre-order. No status update, no shipping notification, nothing. It stings a little bit to realize I'm paying more to get it later when you factor in the shipping cost... especially when I could have one within 5 minutes since Staples is just down the road...
I'm not exactly angry to go to war with Google over this, but this is definitely some serious food for thought for future purchases. I can't see myself possibly pre-ordering through Google again.

Anyone who pre-ordered with the expectation of receiving it before those who didn't pre-order, had the wrong expectations. I've been involved with many pre-orders and known of many many more. I've never seen one with that expectation.
However, you should expect to receive it on the generally available (GA) date. That's where this release broke down. Whether it's Google or Asus, it doesn't matter. The process failed.
However number 2. When I saw that pre-orders were paying for shipping and taxes, a flag went up for me. I decided to not pre-order as it would be cheaper for me to walk into a store and buy on the GA date. I saw little value in pre-ordering.

[POLL]: Should Google re-implement the pre-order system?

Simple question: Should Google re-implement the pre-order system?
Hopefully some "people of power" within Google will look at the stats generated from this Poll, and adjust their game plan accordingly.
I personally think the pre-order system is the only way to conduct sales on a Lunch date of a high-demand new product for a several reasons, some of them being:
a) Allows both the Manufacturer and/or Google to accurately gauge the market demand prior to launch, and thus create/plan stock accordingly.
b) Allows accurate shipping times to be predicted based on the volume of orders, rather than playing a "guessing game".
c) Allows a specific amount of Launch Date devices to be in stock to at least meet the demand of some of the "on the day purchases", while still achieving the "sold out effect" marketing scheme, if they want.
d) Consumers are more comfortable being informed with expected wait times for orders; comfortable with the fact that the device is already on pre-order (now it's in the hands of Google to roll out the devices). AND consumers don't have to keep checking a website in order to find out if it's available again or not.
The bottom line is: The pre-order system is a more professional and organized approach to selling a high demand item, from only one online source.
Furthermore, I think that Google Play should start taking orders now for the re-stock of Nexus devices, so that even if it has to put on back-order, at least the consumer knows they're in-line/queue for the device, when it becomes available, no more frequent and unnecessary effort in consistently checking back.

I would prefer it would over refreshing lots
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google could care less about the stats from an xda post... we comprise of probably less than 0.01% of the buying market for the n4

I think they should!. Thing is.... Pre ordering gives us as the consumer the option to give interest and thus giving Google the information needed to generate a general clue as of demand. At the moment, the only demand they can calculate is site activities.
As its been mentioned all over this forum, both here in the UK & Internationally. Google, has really shown themselves to be very amateurish on how they have conducted there orders and allowing the customer to show interest in purchasing there products.
Poorly managed I hear you ask?!... Its been a complete embarrassment for such a big company!.
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Lock up peoples money before every delivering a phone? Of course they should. It's a good business model

nba1341 said:
Lock up peoples money before every delivering a phone? Of course they should. It's a good business model
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Well if you want the device, you want the device. You're going to pay either now or later, doesn't make a different.
Better to be informed and secure that your device is on order and not "up in the air".

norazi said:
google could care less about the stats from an xda post... we comprise of probably less than 0.01% of the buying market for the n4
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dont know about that. they dont even advertise. most people i know dont even know google makes devices. for that matter android lmao. i bet most of the buyers were from xda such as myself

Except that it is not legal to sell something a product that you do not have in hand.
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Oh ya xda website during launch was almost crashing and not Google huh?..... didn't know xda had better servers.

nba1341 said:
Lock up peoples money before every delivering a phone? Of course they should. It's a good business model
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For something like nexus 4 I would definitely put down my money even it was 6 months before shipping.

It should make a eu play store devices... thre are no custom between states in europe, why is only in 5 countries ._.

There was problems when they did preordering before however there was only really 2 problems they needed to fix rather than abandoning preorders completely.
First the problem with the nexus 7 was that as orders came in it didn't change the estimated delivery timescale. If the site updates the estimate even if it gets to be weeks at least you know what to be expect. How hard is it to say we have x thousand for release, y thousand a week later and update the estimate accordingly as ordered are placed.
Secondly the other problem was they ended up sending out newly placed orders immediately while seeming to forget about those that preordered. This is something that should have been fixed quite easily by simply fulfilling orders in the correct order.
I agree that if they did preordering properly it would be better than the current system.
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gbroon said:
There was problems when they did preordering before however there was only really 2 problems they needed to fix rather than abandoning preorders completely.
First the problem with the nexus 7 was that as orders came in it didn't change the estimated delivery timescale. If the site updates the estimate even if it gets to be weeks at least you know what to be expect. How hard is it to say we have x thousand for release, y thousand a week later and update the estimate accordingly as ordered are placed.
Secondly the other problem was they ended up sending out newly placed orders immediately while seeming to forget about those that preordered. This is something that should have been fixed quite easily by simply fulfilling orders in the correct order.
I agree that if they did preordering properly it would be better than the current system.
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I love how your solution solving procedure is the solution itself... lol
How did you come up with 4? 4.

Over 90% so far agree that they should re-implement pre-ordering. Good stats so far

MatAuc12 said:
Except that it is not legal to sell something a product that you do not have in hand.
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Haha says who?

Honestly, I would vote that Google leave the ordering/shipping business all together. They can still make great devices, but launch after launch, Google has proved that they just can't get a clue. If Amazon.com can give me free two day shipping on a 15 pound medicine ball and charge me $30, I think that Google should be able to successfully launch 5, yes 5 new products at the same time. And remember, this is not the first F'd up launch. Pre-orders for the N7 didn't go so well either.
Personally, I will stay with the Nexus line far into the future, however, no longer will I be purchasing from Google directly.
And PS, their ordering web site look like it is from 10 years ago, doesn't provide barely any useful information, and sometimes doesn't even get updated until after the even has happened (IE, someone receives and order even though their order says "Pending"). This is from the same company that created an app that can zoom all over the world and show us down to 100 feet what a street in, say, China, looks like.

Nah screw that. I like instant gratification, and want my stuff as soon as its announces.

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Haha says who?
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Someone who knows more than you apparently.

BakaPhoenix said:
It should make a eu play store devices... thre are no custom between states in europe, why is only in 5 countries ._.
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I think google likes EU custumores buy million of Apple devices. And Apple thanks.
Google = :angel:

Google royally screwed up the launch, everyone can agree with that. Google should implement a preorder system and like you said allowed people to secure their place in line.
Even Apple allows people to do that via carriers (Rogers in Canada allowed people to pre-order). Looks like there's a lot Google needs to learn before they get this right as their Nexus 7 launch wasn't that good in the first place.
deltatux

deltatux said:
Google royally screwed up the launch, everyone can agree with that. Google should implement a preorder system and like you said allowed people to secure their place in line.
Even Apple allows people to do that via carriers (Rogers in Canada allowed people to pre-order). Looks like there's a lot Google needs to learn before they get this right as their Nexus 7 launch wasn't that good in the first place.
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Agreed.

[Q] Anyone that ordered from clove get their Smartwatch 2 yet?

Has anyone that ordered from clove gotten their smartwatch 2 yet? I haven't received any email regarding shipping info. Their site says that they have them in stock.

uly609 said:
Has anyone that ordered from clove gotten their smartwatch 2 yet? I haven't received any email regarding shipping info. Their site says that they have them in stock.
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Nope, nothing yet. I saw them say something like "Please don't email/phone us about dispatch dates for z1 owners who are getting a free sw2 as it will just give us more to do" on their blog or twitter or something though.
Good to know I'm not the only one but it's frustrating!

I just got an email from them saying that they expect to ship all of the smart watches by the end of the week.

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Has anyone that ordered from clove gotten their smartwatch 2 yet? I haven't received any email regarding shipping info. Their site says that they have them in stock.
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No, I am still waiting on this also. Their blog says they will have shipped all back orders by the middle of this week, so today really.

bob2k4 said:
No, I am still waiting on this also. Their blog says they will have shipped all back orders by the middle of this week, so today really.
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Well at least you guys don't have to wait 28 days like I have to do because Phones4u are useless.. Still have to wait till the 17th

Got mine today.. I live in UK
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tele27 said:
Got mine today.. I live in UK
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Lucky bastard! Now do us all a favor and do a proper unboxing and setup video!

Hi,
I also ordered an Xperia Z1 through the smartwatch 2 offer on clove. My smartwatch 2 hasn't shipped out yet, but I received an email from them saying that it should ship by by the end of the week. The only problem is that on the website it says that the black silicone strap is sold out. Does this mean that everyone whose order has not been dispatched yet has to wait for new stock to arrive, or does it just mean that there is no stock for new orders?
Can't wait for it to arrive!

I got mine today (UK). EBay methinks, will help offset the cost of the phone simply free.
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PushanH said:
Hi,
I also ordered an Xperia Z1 through the smartwatch 2 offer on clove. My smartwatch 2 hasn't shipped out yet, but I received an email from them saying that it should ship by by the end of the week. The only problem is that on the website it says that the black silicone strap is sold out. Does this mean that everyone whose order has not been dispatched yet has to wait for new stock to arrive, or does it just mean that there is no stock for new orders?
Can't wait for it to arrive!
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I too had the smartwatch offer with clove. Got no dispatch email but despite that it turned up this morning! Actually really like it. It's simple and is not trying to be too clever. I'm using watchit which pushes all notifications to the watch seamlessly. Wasted £5 on the smartwatch augmentation thing. Didn't really get it. Watchit is much easier and free too! It looks fine on the wrist too. Even the wife thought it looked good! I was also surprised how many apps are available. Most are pretty useless but I think it's a good sign for the future.
In the few hours I've used it I would say it's actually been quite useful as a remote notification device. It also means I can keep my phone on silent which is nice as it annoys the wife. You just get a nice gentle vibration on your wrist which feels fine. Haven't missed anything yet. The only issue for me is not being able to do much when you get a notification. For example, you can see emails but can't delete them. In the end you always have to go to the phone. What I've realized is that I'm opening the phone much less now. Which is good.
Would just like to amend the comment about the app augmented smartwatch pro. It's actually very good and does a lot more than watchit. For example it allows me to control Google music. Watchit does not. My point should have been that I wanted the watch simply as a notification device. The augmented thing does that, I just believe watchit does it better. Just slightly annoying that I spent a fiver on an app to control Google music! Oh well.
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bmad7136 said:
I too had the smartwatch offer with clove. Got no dispatch email but despite that it turned up this morning! Actually really like it. It's simple and is not trying to be too clever. I'm using watchit which pushes all notifications to the watch seamlessly. Wasted £5 on the smartwatch augmentation thing. Didn't really get it. Watchit is much easier and free too! It looks fine on the wrist too. Even the wife thought it looked good! I was also surprised how many apps are available. Most are pretty useless but I think it's a good sign for the future.
In the few hours I've used it I would say it's actually been quite useful as a remote notification device. It also means I can keep my phone on silent which is nice as it annoys the wife. You just get a nice gentle vibration on your wrist which feels fine. Haven't missed anything yet. The only issue for me is not being able to do much when you get a notification. For example, you can see emails but can't delete them. In the end you always have to go to the phone. What I've realized is that I'm opening the phone much less now. Which is good.
Would just like to amend the comment about the app augmented smartwatch pro. It's actually very good and does a lot more than watchit. For example it allows me to control Google music. Watchit does not. My point should have been that I wanted the watch simply as a notification device. The augmented thing does that, I just believe watchit does it better. Just slightly annoying that I spent a fiver on an app to control Google music! Oh well.
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Thanks for the info, I guess I won't buy augmented smartwatch then. Hopefully my watch will arrive tomorrow or friday.

Preordered mine from Amazon UK on the 17th of September. The site says is been in stock since October 1st but it hasn't dispatched yet
Then again, I AM in Australia... ETA is the 5th but I really doubt that it can get here in one day

Haven't gotten mine yet. I read the questions and answers on their blog today that said no one will be getting an individual email that their watches have shipped. Once they're done with all orders from the Z Ultra and Z1 then one mass email will go out. You may get your watch before you get an email.
Bottom line: be patient. Le'sigh

Got my watch but, it's corrupted can't even access the home screen just the clock....

I got mine yesterday, haven't used it other than to check it powers on.

Received mine today. Shows it was dispatched on 9/27/13 via Royal Mail.
Took literally less than 2-3 minutes to set up and start using. It's a little big for a woman's wrist but I don't mind.

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Received mine today. Shows it was dispatched on 9/27/13 via Royal Mail.
Took literally less than 2-3 minutes to set up and start using. It's a little big for a woman's wrist but I don't mind.
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Did USPS deliver it here in the states? I live in northern cali so maybe I will get mine today too?:cyclops:

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Did USPS deliver it here in the states? I live in northern cali so maybe I will get mine today too?:cyclops:
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The woman who gets the mail here at work is at lunch so I can't confirm if it came USPS. I'm going to assume that it did because there is no 3rd party courier information on the packaging itself.
Updated to add: Confirmed this was delivered by USPS.

Has anyone who got their Z1 directly from EE received their watch yet?

yep got mine as well today usps

Anyone order JBL Legend CP100?

When the JBL Legend CP100 it looked pretty great, but it seems like the release keeps getting pushed back. Did anyone pre-order?

I've got one on order, they say July 8th for mine now. Sucks to have to wait so long... hopefully it will be worth it!

When did you order it? I never actually ordered one, but have been looking at them online for some time. Seems to keep getting pushed back.
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I started watching the pre-order listing since February, the number of time the dates have pushed back is ridiculous. Either people are receiving it on those dates and the next batches are the later dates that are being updated, or JBL is having issues. I think it's the latter as I have not seen one video/picture of this device from a user and it just seems too good to be true honestly. I had so much hope for this, was making the space for it on my vehicle, but it hasn't released in the US or given an actual date since February, let alone wait for it here in the UK.
JBL has let me down, why bring a release date to consumers, if you can't meet the date.
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I've got one on order, they say July 8th for mine now. Sucks to have to wait so long... hopefully it will be worth it!
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August 8th now, I think XDA need to look into this once majestical, cheap and epic Android Auto device.

I feel like this will never get released.
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Probably the issues delaying the release are in the still malfunctioning Apple Carplay with the latest iPhones...

Crutchfield has this update on their review section:
Crutchfield first offered this item for pre-order in January of 2016 and we regret that we are still awaiting our first shipment. There have been delays getting the necessary certification from Apple for the CarPlay feature. As soon as we have firm shipping information, we will post an official Estimated Time of Arrival (ETA) for this radio. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-29l4i4KVOsR/p_109CP100/JBL-Legend-CP100.html

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Crutchfield has this update on their review section:
Crutchfield first offered this item for pre-order in January of 2016 and we regret that we are still awaiting our first shipment. There have been delays getting the necessary certification from Apple for the CarPlay feature. As soon as we have firm shipping information, we will post an official Estimated Time of Arrival (ETA) for this radio. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
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Yeah, even with that, the fact that they didn't update their customers who have pre-ordered with this information is just very poor. Either exclude Apple's certification and say we f'd up, here's Android Auto only for $25-50 less, for now. People would buy it in large numbers even without CarPlay. Until Apple gives a **** about us(JBL), not just their pocket, you'll have to wait for CarPlay.
Why can't companies behave like this, rather than bending over to these behemoth corporations. JBL should worry more about their reputation with their consumers than their relationship with Apple and so on.

Yup, I would have bought it if it was Android Auto only. Seems like they could just update the software later to include Apple Car Play.
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The CP100 page has actually been pulled down on the Crutchfield site. I spoke with a rep over there today and he said they won't be getting any until January 2017. I'm not in any huge rush to replace my headunit, so I'll probably wait it out.

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The CP100 page has actually been pulled down on the Crutchfield site. I spoke with a rep over there today and he said they won't be getting any until January 2017. I'm not in any huge rush to replace my headunit, so I'll probably wait it out.
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pushed back a full year is suspect, makes me think I was right when I said it is never coming out

I have one of these. It was in my 2017 Jayco Alante that I just took deliver of today. Not sure if it's a dealer issue or a software issue, but Android Auto doesn't work, and Bluetooth will only pair up for Phone, not Media. Trying to reach JBL for assistance.

Not sure there's a big need for a deck like this when Android Auto app gets updated to operate in standalone mode.

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Not sure there's a big need for a deck like this when Android Auto app gets updated to operate in standalone mode.
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For me, my HU is massively outdated (2005 Mazda, no BT, no Aux) and under-powered. I've thought about using a tablet in its place, but then I have to deal with tethering or getting another data plan. This headunit is nice because it's a large capacitive secreen for < $500 that hopefully does one thing well: mirror the functionality of your phone. There are other units for $650+, but all have features I don't need like built-in Nav and a DVD player.
That said, I just found out that the CP100 doesn't have any crossover functionality and the USB port only charges at 1A. That's two deal breakers for me.

Now the website is stating coming soon. They messed up big time basically, so you may as well start looking for alternatives.

I ordered the unit from our employee website in February. The shipping has been delayed four times, and as of yesterday the order has been canceled and they can't give me an estimated date when the radio will hit the market.

JBL is probably dead, but this Sony one looks similar:
http://www.sony.com/electronics/in-car-receivers-players/xav-ax100

JBL Legend CP100 actually exists!
Reviving an old thread..... JBL Legend CP100 is surprisingly in stock and shipping (from a few places). I ordered a unit from Crutchfield for $279 and installed it this weekend.
This model was delayed forever, I was surprised to see it listed for sale over Thanksgiving holiday. The unit I received has a manufacturing date of Feb 2016. This makes sense with the rumors that it was delayed due to AA or carplay certification.
Anyway, it works great so far (FM, BT, AA). Nice screen with good touch screen and quick response. Pleasntly simple UI. After installing it, I got a notification to update the software, but I can't even find a support page yet on JBL. Software version out of the box is 2.3.3.187.

i wonder how this compares to the Sony

I actually bought this unit from Crutchfield when it initially released! It's my first double-din unit and AA unit. So far, I'm liking it! It's a capacitive touchscreen and it runs without issue! Functionality is limited to phone, music, and navigation (which helps from distractions). The only thing that bothers me is the lack of an EQ on the AA side and the fact that the head unit had to be hooked up to a parking brake to set up AA from my phone.

Should I buy the Pebble Time?

Hey,
I have one gathered before me which costs around 95GBP, including shipping to my country.
I've told my dad that I'm interested in getting a watch and particularly this one. However, since it's my first time wearing a watch, will it be comfortable will I notice it, do I sleep with it? wink:
I'm pretty much sold with pebble, I like their direction, the price is right, now I need a final push to order it.
Persuade me into getting the watch please. :slight_smile:
Thanks in advance,
Best regards,
Peppa

I was looking for a simple smartwatch that can show notifications and who's calling, i spent almost two weeks seeing reviews about android wear and Pebble. I ended up ordering a Pebble Time yesterday What had me sold was the battery life, the dev support, brightness in direct sunlight and the simplicity of the watch (and the price )

Pebble watches are the only smart watch that is also compatible with iOS. This was my big selling point.

ttdemartini said:
Pebble watches are the only smart watch that is also compatible with iOS. This was my big selling point.
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Not entirely true. AndroidWear is compatible with iOS too.
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Hey guys, what if a i wanted to reply to a whatsapp text with ad audio recording? I'm referring to an actual voice message, not to a text typed with my voice.
Is it possible?