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So I have a nexus 7 that i recently purchased. I'm still on the fence about it. My wife has an IPAD (1st gen) I find it too big for me so i never purchased one. I had a blackberry playbook (loaner) from the company for a little but everything was terrible except navigation (that was pretty cool).
So when I saw the nexus I decided to give it try but then I also saw the excite 7.7 and the AMOLED screen. The bigger screen (7.7 vs 7), MICROSD card support and the colors on the AMOLED screamed "buy me".
Anyway, I know the excite cost more money but it's not like I'm going to swap out my tablet every 2 years for a new one. I'm not really into rooting or hacking so unlocking isn't a big concern for me.
I am stuck between bigger screen, Amoled, + micro sd card vs affordability of the nexus, Jelly bean OS + future direct updates from Google
Other fear I have is how long will the AMOLED screen will last. I keep hearing stories about burn in but is it a inherent problem of OLED or is it just bad QC?
Anyway what should I do? I'm really on the fence with these 2 tablets
Return it. If you need someone else to tell you what you want you don't need it. Not trying to sound harsh but really, what ever happened to researching and buying something because you want it. You don't need a stranger to tell you that you need or want something.
If ya like it, keep it. K?
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Can someone help me? I don't know which one to keep, new iPad or Etch-a-Sketch? The family (baby) use the Etch-a-Sketch more but Retina is resolutionary.
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So I have a nexus 7 that i recently purchased. I'm still on the fence about it. My wife has an IPAD (1st gen) I find it too big for me so i never purchased one. I had a blackberry playbook (loaner) from the company for a little but everything was terrible except navigation (that was pretty cool).
So when I saw the nexus I decided to give it try but then I also saw the excite 7.7 and the AMOLED screen. The bigger screen (7.7 vs 7), MICROSD card support and the colors on the AMOLED screamed "buy me".
Anyway, I know the excite cost more money but it's not like I'm going to swap out my tablet every 2 years for a new one. I'm not really into rooting or hacking so unlocking isn't a big concern for me.
I am stuck between bigger screen, Amoled, + micro sd card vs affordability of the nexus, Jelly bean OS + future direct updates from Google
Other fear I have is how long will the AMOLED screen will last. I keep hearing stories about burn in but is it a inherent problem of OLED or is it just bad QC?
Anyway what should I do? I'm really on the fence with these 2 tablets
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Unless you have to have the quad core tegra 3, wait until the tab 7.7 goes on clearance. It's the same thing basically but with a better build and an older processor.
As for AMOLED. The only problem you will have is if you put it on display from opening to closing on full brightness for half a year. With normal use, there is no way it won't survive like 10 years without burn in.
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Return it. If you need someone else to tell you what you want you don't need it. Not trying to sound harsh but really, what ever happened to researching and buying something because you want it. You don't need a stranger to tell you that you need or want something.
If ya like it, keep it. K?
From the Note to Nexus 7
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I did my research on both products but both seems to have good points and bad points. To me they both seem to balance each other out. If i had oodles and oodles of money I would just buy both and then give one off to a family member but I don't have that kind of cash.
I didn't want someone to tell me which to buy, I'm asking for people's view regarding the 2 and what they think.
People come to XDA for advice. They don't need people trashing them. Granted we should do some research before asking questions herebor anywhere else like. But, is looks as though the OP did do some research. You can tell this.due to the fact that he asked about burn.in when it came to AMOLED screens. And he did not hint at looking for some one to tell him what to do. It's funny, people will take the time and possibly sound like ass hats being a jerk or the like. But it is to much for them to give some sort of opinion or a fact regarding an answer to an OP question. I seriously think some people love to to find reason to complain, ***** and just be negative. If some one is being offensive then go to gold and tear them a new one. Otherwise it is better for all if you just don't speak. Thank.you and drive through.
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I've got both and I prefer to use the N7 because of weight and portability but the 7.7 is great and definitely has the nicer screen and let's face it it isn't heavy. My N7 doesn't appear to have the common faults but I would wait for a fix to be put in place by Asus/Google before buying and the 7.7 is only going to get cheaper and better software over time. Short term if cost is a factor I'd buy a fixed N7 knowing I had a good tab.
You mentioned that you don't want to upgrade your tablet every two years. However at the pace these tablets evolve, both hardware and software, I think you really might want to.
The Nexus 7 at half the price of the Excite 7.7, sounds like it might be option if spending $500 on a tablet means you'll feel obligated to stick with it for several years.
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Anyway what should I do? I'm really on the fence with these 2 tablets
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Based on what you wrote and your desire to get advice, I would guess you're not going to be the biggest tablet user on the market. So I would recommend the Nexus 7. Save the money and if you find your are just loving tablet life, upgrade down the road...if not, or if you are still happy with the N7, then you're good to go.
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ExploreMN said:
Based on what you wrote and your desire to get advice, I would guess you're not going to be the biggest tablet user on the market. So I would recommend the Nexus 7. Save the money and if you find your are just loving tablet life, upgrade down the road...if not, or if you are still happy with the N7, then you're good to go.
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using it for movies and web surfing most of the time. And some gaming on occasion.
rolexconfuse said:
So I have a nexus 7 that i recently purchased. I'm still on the fence about it. My wife has an IPAD (1st gen) I find it too big for me so i never purchased one. I had a blackberry playbook (loaner) from the company for a little but everything was terrible except navigation (that was pretty cool).
So when I saw the nexus I decided to give it try but then I also saw the excite 7.7 and the AMOLED screen. The bigger screen (7.7 vs 7), MICROSD card support and the colors on the AMOLED screamed "buy me".
Anyway, I know the excite cost more money but it's not like I'm going to swap out my tablet every 2 years for a new one. I'm not really into rooting or hacking so unlocking isn't a big concern for me.
I am stuck between bigger screen, Amoled, + micro sd card vs affordability of the nexus, Jelly bean OS + future direct updates from Google
Other fear I have is how long will the AMOLED screen will last. I keep hearing stories about burn in but is it a inherent problem of OLED or is it just bad QC?
Anyway what should I do? I'm really on the fence with these 2 tablets
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depends on what you plan to use it for. for web browsing and book reading and anything involving white pages, the google nexus 7 will have longer battery life simply because when an oled is set to white, it can consume more than twice the amount of power compared to an lcd with an led backlit display. conversely, if you do a lot of things that use darker colours, ie. gaming, movies, etc. then the amoled will have better battery life.
both have tegra3, so its up to the price. for the price of the excite, i'd probably spend a bit more and buy a transformer, but thats just me.
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Other fear I have is how long will the AMOLED screen will last. I keep hearing stories about burn in but is it a inherent problem of OLED or is it just bad QC?
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The burn in is due to the degradation of the organic molecules. I have had an SGS2 since August last year and it has spent most of the screen time on minimum brightness (with TW). I have noticed there has been a bit of burn in of my wallpaper where there is a sharp contrast between very dark and very light parts of the screen. So long as you stay away from large amounts of white or blues in the background then, in theory, it shouldn't be too bad (blue degrades about twice as quickly iirc). Also if it gets particularly bad you'd probably have a case under the warranty as it is a design "fault". Obviously that's only really useful with phones so if you are planning to keep the tablet more than two years, which is likely, then this may be an issue for you.
I haven't looked at the Excite so I can't offer any opinion on which I'd prefer, except to say I have the N7 and have found particularly good.
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using it for movies and web surfing most of the time. And some gaming on occasion.
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Nexus 7 is really made for this scenario. For the investment it really can't be beat.
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Souai said:
depends on what you plan to use it for. for web browsing and book reading and anything involving white pages, the google nexus 7 will have longer battery life simply because when an oled is set to white, it can consume more than twice the amount of power compared to an lcd with an led backlit display. conversely, if you do a lot of things that use darker colours, ie. gaming, movies, etc. then the amoled will have better battery life.
both have tegra3, so its up to the price. for the price of the excite, i'd probably spend a bit more and buy a transformer, but thats just me.
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Battery life can't really be gauged like that even though what you say isn't wrong. The tab 7.7 has the best battery life out of any tablet period and it uses an AMOLED screen. Not sure about the excite battery life though.
I did a review of the Excite 7.7, and couldn't recommend it because of what I'm guessing is the AutoBrite "feature" that Toshiba uses to conserve power. What it does basically is reduce brightness and contrast depending on what's on the screen. In the case of the Excite 7.7, whenever there's a lot of white on a page (say, a Web page), then brightness and contrast are cut way back and the screen becomes colder (i.e., more blueish) and washed out. I found it very disappointing and distracting.
Also, I didn't find the Excite 7.7 to have very good battery life. Certainly, no better than the Nexus 7, and nowhere close to what the Galaxy Tab 7.7 gets.
Here's my review, if you're interested: http://www.thetechchat.com/2012/06/25/toshiba-excite-7-7-review/
Cloud storage would help aid your need for a microsd card.
I was on the same boat as you and glad I went the 7 route.
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I would try N7 in a heartbeat, if it weren't for already having the iPad3 alongside my GNex.
I was just wondering if anyone has all three and uses them all quite a bit?
The only time I could see myself really using all three is browsing N7 in bed while watching a movie on XBMC on iPad3.
But even then it seems like total overkill.
I have 4S, iPad 3 and now N7. The N7 is just easier to use for surfing and reading.
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I have an iPhone 4, the new iPad, GNex and Nexus 7. I still use the iPad at home, Nexus 7 has replaced my notepad at work and GNex is my primary phone for now.
I have an N7 and an iPad 3. I use the N7 for quick updates on email and such, along with ebook reading and gaming. I use the iPad for browsing, RSS feed reading, and video (particularly HBO Go). Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
If I was forced to choose just one, I'd choose the N7 if it had HBO Go. I think the 7" form factor is just better overall, for my uses at least.
Dang, you guys with iPhones and GNex surprise me as well though I'm impressed.
I sold my 4S a few days after I got my GNex.
I originally planned on SIM swapping phones when I pleased, but then I found my 4S collecting dust and it not feasible.
Thinking of getting the Gnex, how o you like move from 4s? Miss anything? I hear a new nexus phone com in soon, the gnex only like 8 months old right?
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I love my GNex.
4S camera is unbeatable. And I had the 32GB model, but I sold it after unlocking it for enough to cover GNex and almost all of my upgrade if I choose to get the next iPhone on contract.
A new Nexus might come out/probably will, but after that price drop, I didn't want to be playing the waiting game. And I've never owned an Android before this.
I do
I have a retina iPad (still my favorite), Galaxy Nexus (it has pretty much become a glorified hotspot for my Nexus 7), iPhone 4s (my daily phone, but just barely as I go back and forth between my Galxy Nexus and iPhone 4s), and just got the Nexus 7 (I got the 8gb one as I use it primarily for an ereader and tinkering).
Like I said above my go to device is still my iPad. Thevisplay is about 90% of the reason. I mean the Nexus 7 has an ok display and it gets the job done but I expected better than my old ipad 2 as it has more pixel density and both are IPS, but I was way wrong. It is better than my former Transformer Prime by a country mile and way way way better than my Xoom. I really am sensitive to great displays though. For some it doesn't bother them, but for me I've been waiting years for the display tech we are now seeing and the iPhone and iPad retina displays are so far ahead of anything else out in my opinion it's almost hard to use anything else. I know it sounds stupid and lame but even months after getting my retina iPad at launch I still get that amazed feeling every time I pick it up and I really really notice the displays on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus especially when reading.
Anyways I would say if you got the cash pick a Nexus 7 up. It is the best $200 I've spent in a long time and I have no regrets except the severe lack of apps but I don't notice it as much as I did on my Prime or Xoom I think that's due to phone apps (like twitter) look much better on the Nexus 7 than a 10 inch display. If you have any other questions let me know. I'll be more than happy to help.
Second that, best 200 spent in some time. N7 is just refreshing!
Which you prefer, 4s or gnex overall?
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yeah i'd be hard pressed to give up my ipad 3 also. I love it and it satisfies my iOS cravings. After all, iOS was apparently originally designed for a tablet in its development before being launched on iPhone (back when it was iPhone OS)
I also swapped it way too many times to get one that had an acceptable QC screen, BEAUTIFUL display, without a pink hot corner, or multiple colored tints, or weird contrast. No way I'd give this one up easily. Even when an iPad "4" or whatever comes out.
Even with Color Profile jailbreak app to tweak it can't hide a defective screen. Meanwhile, the one and only iPad3 my parents bought is perfect as well (I have a knack for this thing).
4S screen is definitely technically superior to AMOLED and brighter, but I don't care. I pick up my parents' iPhones and I wonder how I went 3.5" so long without complaint. the 4.65" (and maybe I got a great screen too whereas others did not) makes browsing enjoyable again on the go.
I am still "open" as to which phone I will purchase next. But I'm so much more pleased with my Nexus than I could have ever anticipated.
I should also add I've had every generation iPhone (traded my 4 and cash for a 4S back in January before I sold it a few weeks ago) and without jailbreak, I think I would have tried out Android much sooner. Stock iPhones bother me a lot. They're too limiting. I was even going to hold onto my 4 indefinitely over 4S until I started seeing that developers were close to wrapping up the iOS5/A5 exploit on 5.0.1 (and later 5.1.1)
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Thinking of getting the Gnex, how o you like move from 4s? Miss anything? I hear a new nexus phone com in soon, the gnex only like 8 months old right?
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I keep going back and forth as I own the Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4s, but the iPhone is my daly phone right now. It is just a much better all around device in my opinion. I love the display and it is the best I've ever used and it makes a huge difference especially considering my Nexus display feels really dingey. I don't know how to explain it, but it really bothers me. I'm not a huge fan of super AMOLED displays and usually stay away from Samsung (although this is by far the best Samsung device I've used in terms of build quality). I'm just a huge fan of displays showing correct colors and the over saturation, dingey whites and grays, and pentile display really throw me off. With that said I won't be getting rid of my Galaxy Nexus anytime soon as I still feel it is the only Android device out right now worth buying and that's due to the latest software. jelly Bean is excellent and a huge step in the right direction.
I dont think you will regret buying one, but for me the iPhone is just the better phone and smaller screen and lack of LTE are worth the payoff for everything else that just works. Number one is the display like I mentioned. Two, the apps. You cannot get anything close on android when it comes to apps and especially quality and it is getting more and more obvious especially on tablets. Three, build quality. It amazes me that it's been over two and a half years since the iPhone 4 release and still OEMs are behind the iPhone in build quality. The only companies even playing in the same ball field is Nokia (I sure hope a high end WP8 comes to Verizon with LTE) and HTC and only recently with the One X and One S. Samsung and Motorola are not even close (in my opinion so don't think Im trying to flame). Four, Siri. Siri is more useful then I ever thought it would be. Don't believe the internets claiming that Google Now wipes the floor with Siri. It's just not true. Google Now is great and is a little faster, but it gets a lot of mistakes. I just cant explain it you just have to use it. When iOS 6 comes out it will add some much needed features and it will be no contest. The only thing Google Now does I wish Siri does is sports scores and iOS 6 will fill that gap. Five, fluidity. This should be number 2 on the list if there was any rhyme or reason to this list. There is no competition and even with the Project Butter improvements (I honestly think Project Butter is the single best improvement the Google team has ever added to android and it is catching up to iOS. The problem is they are catching up to iOS on the iPhone 3Gs. A huge improvement, but still a ways behind Apple). This is what keeps me coming back to iOS as of late. I tried to use JB as my daily phone and honestly I like the look and feel more than iOS but this is the main reason outside the display that keeps me going back. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs for the Nexus One years ago and have only used Android until getting my retina iPad. I even didn't purchase the iPad 2 and instead got the Xoom and later the Transformer Prime. I really notice it and it's a huge annoyance.
Sorry so long. Please just take this as an opinion and a subjective one at that. I only posted in this thread to help as I spend entirely too much money on technology and I know my opinion is by far the end all be all, but I dont get caught up in brand loyalty (I hate using the word fanboy as it is ugly and sounds stupid). The reason is I like to use all tech as there really is a reason we have two (hopefully three with windows and windows phone 8) great competitors in the market and being loyal to a brand made by a company that cares less about you and only wants your money is silly and keeps me from using some great and innovative technology. So don't take this as flaming just giviing my opinion. Good luck and let me know if u have any other questions I will be more than happy to help.
I have a iPhone 4s new iPad, Gnex, Nexus 7 and a few other Android devices .. but I'll tell you one thing .. my Apple products hardly get touched ... besides my macbook.. which is my main computer ... I just can't be tied down to just what Apple wants ... Android is open source and has more options for me to control... Cydia is cool .. but I still find those tweaks to not come close to what Android does
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angermeans said:
I keep going back and forth as I own the Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4s, but the iPhone is my daly phone right now. It is just a much better all around device in my opinion. I love the display and it is the best I've ever used and it makes a huge difference especially considering my Nexus display feels really dingey. I don't know how to explain it, but it really bothers me. I'm not a huge fan of super AMOLED displays and usually stay away from Samsung (although this is by far the best Samsung device I've used in terms of build quality). I'm just a huge fan of displays showing correct colors and the over saturation, dingey whites and grays, and pentile display really throw me off. With that said I won't be getting rid of my Galaxy Nexus anytime soon as I still feel it is the only Android device out right now worth buying and that's due to the latest software. jelly Bean is excellent and a huge step in the right direction.
I dont think you will regret buying one, but for me the iPhone is just the better phone and smaller screen and lack of LTE are worth the payoff for everything else that just works. Number one is the display like I mentioned. Two, the apps. You cannot get anything close on android when it comes to apps and especially quality and it is getting more and more obvious especially on tablets. Three, build quality. It amazes me that it's been over two and a half years since the iPhone 4 release and still OEMs are behind the iPhone in build quality. The only companies even playing in the same ball field is Nokia (I sure hope a high end WP8 comes to Verizon with LTE) and HTC and only recently with the One X and One S. Samsung and Motorola are not even close (in my opinion so don't think Im trying to flame). Four, Siri. Siri is more useful then I ever thought it would be. Don't believe the internets claiming that Google Now wipes the floor with Siri. It's just not true. Google Now is great and is a little faster, but it gets a lot of mistakes. I just cant explain it you just have to use it. When iOS 6 comes out it will add some much needed features and it will be no contest. The only thing Google Now does I wish Siri does is sports scores and iOS 6 will fill that gap. Five, fluidity. This should be number 2 on the list if there was any rhyme or reason to this list. There is no competition and even with the Project Butter improvements (I honestly think Project Butter is the single best improvement the Google team has ever added to android and it is catching up to iOS. The problem is they are catching up to iOS on the iPhone 3Gs. A huge improvement, but still a ways behind Apple). This is what keeps me coming back to iOS as of late. I tried to use JB as my daily phone and honestly I like the look and feel more than iOS but this is the main reason outside the display that keeps me going back. I dumped my iPhone 3Gs for the Nexus One years ago and have only used Android until getting my retina iPad. I even didn't purchase the iPad 2 and instead got the Xoom and later the Transformer Prime. I really notice it and it's a huge annoyance.
Sorry so long. Please just take this as an opinion and a subjective one at that. I only posted in this thread to help as I spend entirely too much money on technology and I know my opinion is by far the end all be all, but I dont get caught up in brand loyalty (I hate using the word fanboy as it is ugly and sounds stupid). The reason is I like to use all tech as there really is a reason we have two (hopefully three with windows and windows phone 8) great competitors in the market and being loyal to a brand made by a company that cares less about you and only wants your money is silly and keeps me from using some great and innovative technology. So don't take this as flaming just giviing my opinion. Good luck and let me know if u have any other questions I will be more than happy to help.
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Thanks, good feedback!
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Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
For certain functions my iPad 3 is just too bulky and heavy. I have a rezound and I suppose I got the n7 was because I was using the phone for tapatalk, quick browsing, email and the like. I was using it like a mini tablet so I decided to just get one. BTW of all three devices I find the n7 easiest to type on.
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No problem man. I would find someone that has one and try it out. For some it bothers them and others it doesnt. I'll always be interested in iOS (especially since I have a MacBook Pro with Mountain Lion and having an iPhone 4s, retina iPad, and mac really has a lot of benefits with iCloud and all). Also I didnt mention it above but another thing I do often on my phone is music and especially podcasts and the iOS wins hands down at that. Google music doesn't hold a candle to iTunes in my opinion, but the again Safari doesn't hold a candle to Chrome and Gmail is one of my favorite apps of all time. Im really invested in iOS and Google. I'm just glad that Apple and Google have worked some stuff out to get Chrome on iOS and it seems to work pretty well. They must have more access to APIs then normal app devs. It just seems to be a great browser. It blows my mind cause you can't even get Chrome on pre ICS phones, which is the majority of all Android devices out right now, but you can get it on iOS. Also it might just be the retina iPad and iPhone but Google+ app looks, works and feels better on iOS than Android. I just wish Gmail on iOS was good as it seems pretty bad. Anyways good hunting you can always do what I've done and others on this post and get ya a Galaxy Nexus to run side by side your iPhone 4s. They both have their advantages, disadvantages, bugs, and features after all.
Yeah for sure.
I love my MBA 2011 13" like no other. I've used Macs exclusively (well, with occasional XP on virtual machine for windows only hack tools but never for leisure) for photography and what I do for the past 8 years. And every iPhone. And every iPad (though I flipped my iPad 1 for iPad 2 once I could get my hands on one within weeks of having it, I didn't want a dinosaur dated tablet once A5 came out with 512 of RAM). It was nerve wrecking even giving Android a try. I almost returned it to sender for fear I wouldn't like it and have to eat the $50+ restocking fee from Samsung/Google.
But I bit the bullet and I am glad I did.
I went from "I've been way too curious to try android, now that its $350 no contract for a Nexus, no brainer and I'll swap 4S and Nexus interchangeably" to "I'm gonna not even bother" to "oh whatever" to "Nexus only" and awaiting to see what comes out in just a few months and taking it from there.
In a good spot
it also bothered me when Chrome came out for iOS, that it uses Safari engine due to App Store guidelines but with Chrome-ish UI. It's what I call "fake Chrome" and I went back to using Mobile Safari right away. I still am not sure how it's so popuar besides syncing up with Chrome bookmarks and history and such from desktop Chrome.
And agreed, Gmail app on Android is so much better than Mail app with Gmail in my opinion. Once my exchange server account expired, and I just redirected the alias to my gmail, I found Android integration better.
And I'm curious to see how Apple maps pans out, but I'm more frightened than anything. Turn by turn and Google maps on android is excellent. I can't imagine that being a big positive, getting rid of something I rely on quite a bit. At best, it'll be a "successful alternative"
Lightflow rocks so hard too. I wish iPhone had something comparable. Knowing whether I have SMS, missed call, Voicemail, or Gmail from the distance without picking it up.
The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about.
I really enjoy this interesting conversation/debate and I hope it continues. I'm an XDA noob but people here seem so tolerant or indifferent of others technology preferences (without atrributing the fanboy label), and it's so awesome.
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Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
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It sounds like we are almost opposite. Ive been on Android for years and felt that I had left iOS for good. I even tortured myself by trying to talk myself into thinking that Android tablets where better than iPads and purchased the horrible Xoom and buggy Transformer Prime. I find myself in a weird spot with Android right now. Its hard to put my finger on it, really. I started out with the Nexus One after owning every iPhone up to the 3Gs and I was so bored with iOS. The Nexus One is still to this day my favorite device I've ever owned. I even find myself sometimes looking for a great deal on one just to have it. I have a bunch of phones lying around and I still can't see why I ever sold it. I think it was because it was an ATT one and I was even more sick of ATT then I was the 3Gs and I got a great job at Verizon Wireless (still work there now in fact). I keep all my devices in pristine condition and I hope I dont jinx myself, but I honestly cannot remember the last time I've dropped a device. Anyways me being bored and getting into a great new world in Android (the early days were great and Android is a whole different beast now) and also going to school and learning to code it felt like I would always have an Android device. I loved the openness, tinkering was great, and the community was even better. I mean I kept my Macbook and have even had a couple since then. I cant stand Windows (although I loved my HTC Trophy and WP7, go figure. Also XBOX 360 is still the best console ever IMHO) and I love Mac OS X. I guess the only thing I can think of that happened was the many many many skinned Android devices I've owned since my Nexus One and the many problems that came with them. I must have owned a dozen or so and if it came out on Verizon and was a high end device I probably owned it the last two and a half years. I had no desire to go back to the iPhone for the same reasons you mentioned above. The small screen and lack of LTE was the main ones.
Anyways the last year and a half has been real annoying on the Android front at least for me. You can chalk that up to what I mentioned above. The always waiting for updates (even thought the first thing I do is root and flash a ROM), the extreme lack of apps (even though I really didnt notice this until getting the retina iPad), the lagginess you get on an Android phone, and worst of all the bastardization of OEM skinned devices by their creators. What I mean was you would get maybe one update and it was on average 6-8 months too late, always had a million bugs, and by the time it launched you still are an Android version behind. Mostly this aggravating feeling I have of Android came from 3 devices. The HTC TBolt, Motorola Xoom (and Motorola Droid X and Droid 2, but Ill leave those out as I only kept them for less than a month before I couldnt take Blur anymore), and the Transformer Prime. Those devices and especially Honeycomb killed my love of Android. Well, those and Verizon not having a Nexus branded device (Im sorry I wont ever call the Xoom a Nexus device or even a Google Experience Device. Waiting 9 months for a promised 4G update, lack of SD card that works, months of waiting for ICS, and worst of all the horrible display. Its still the only device that gave me migraines on a regular basis).
I've always loved a high pixel density display. Its the main reason I left the 3Gs for the Nexus One, the reason I got the Xoom over the iPad2 (even though the Xoom had more pixel density it was no where near the quality display that Apple used on its iPad), and the main reason (paired with my new found hate of Android tablets after the Xoom and Prime) that I finally dumped Android for iOS when the retina iPad came out. I figured I could deal with iOS for the high pixel density display. What I found shocked the hell out of me. The iOS I left on the 3Gs was no where near the iOS on the retina iPad. Like you said in your post iOS is gorgeous and works great on the iPad. The iPhone is a little cramped and iOS def feels that it was designed to originally come on the iPad and not the iPhone. I love the apps, the display was the best I've ever used on any device, it was extremely fluid, and most of all it did not feel like I was using a tablet. What I mean is I always fought with using my Xoom and Prime. It felt as if I was scratching my fingers down a chalkboard whenever I swiped through screens (btw this is no where near the feeling i get on the Nexus 7). The iPad never fought with me it just got out of the way and gave me my content. It is genious and I still cannot see exactly what it is, but this is the best I can describe it.
Anyways, before the iPad I dumped my Tbolt for the HTC Trophy and waited for the Galaxy Nexus to be released. I used that and loved it. I still do. It is a completely different device and pure Google is the only way to go in my opinion and I dont forsee myself going back to a skinned device at least not how OEMs are treating them anyways. After my new iPad I decided to get an iPhone (I have always had two devices as I use my main device for personal things and my secondary for a side business I run with my brother and I didnt want customers having my personal line. I dont usually bring both with me every day except now). The iPhone was great and a good change, but Siri is the main reason I use it (and the other reasons I posted above).
Sorry this is so long. I dont blame ya if you dont read it lol. Have a great night and like I said if your still on the fence about the N7 just get it you wont regret it.
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Yeah I appreciate your feedback as well.
I don't get why if you guys have one device collecting dust, why you'd hold onto it.
That was my original mentality to go between 4S and Nexus considering I got my 4S cheap and Nexus didn't break the bank. But realistically, I'm not gonna carry two phones at once, or a paper clip and rip apart both phones because I'm more in the mood for one than the other.
I think I preferred iPhone for the services it offered more than the phone itself (iMessage, though I have it on my iPad even though its apple ID and not phone number, but I have unlimited texts and I don't miss it much at all -- don't care if it says delivered or not, iTunes match although after a few major mishaps I feel like I should be refunded, and it transcodes audio if its not in the iTunes music store, Google Music uploads your collection as it is, which takes a while, but has its pluses too and the price is right).
The 4S camera is great, but I wanted to dabble with Android and Jelly Bean goodness, and I have a sneaking feeling I'll get a huge flagship phone at the end of the year that rocks the socks off that anyways.
And I'm into SLR photography.
4S is great, and SUPER fast, and with jailbreak mods, really enjoyable. But I think that small screen really hinders the experience, and I'm tired of the 4x4 layout after having all five iPhones.
I missed my iPhone a few days after selling it and was considering picking up another to SIM swap, then realized I didn't touch my iPhone once since having GNex. Maybe it was the novelty, but I've almost had it a month, and I'm immensely satisfied. And the huge mod community keeps me entertained as well.
And a new iPhone is just around the bend in case I ever want to dabble again. iOS 6 doesn't seem as competitive as iOS 5 was last year, its more severe catchup imo from what I've seen.
the iOS UI works great on tablet though. it'd be nice to have N7 as well, but I'm not as bothered by the "boring, old" UI on iPad for some reason.
And... I still have a 3GS in case I ever have iphone cravings, but even that's just been sitting on top of my drawer. So it seemed like having the cash instead of 4S was a good call.
And I never bought 4S for siri. I used it a few times, but I've already used Google Now like 3 x more than the 6 months I had 4S. I like that it has no charm, it shouldnt. Give me what I want so I can move on. If you can't answer a question, Google search is awesome. I don't need you to be cute, and I don't need an AI friend. That's just me though. neither are the MOST NECESSARY ever though. just nice additions.
And 4S (my familys') feels heavy after being used to juggling my Nexus.
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Yeah for sure.
I love my MBA 2011 13" like no other. I've used Macs exclusively (well, with occasional XP on virtual machine for windows only hack tools but never for leisure) for photography and what I do for the past 8 years. And every iPhone. And every iPad (though I flipped my iPad 1 for iPad 2 once I could get my hands on one within weeks of having it, I didn't want a dinosaur dated tablet once A5 came out with 512 of RAM). It was nerve wrecking even giving Android a try. I almost returned it to sender for fear I wouldn't like it and have to eat the $50+ restocking fee from Samsung/Google.
But I bit the bullet and I am glad I did.
I went from "I've been way too curious to try android, now that its $350 no contract for a Nexus, no brainer and I'll swap 4S and Nexus interchangeably" to "I'm gonna not even bother" to "oh whatever" to "Nexus only" and awaiting to see what comes out in just a few months and taking it from there.
In a good spot
it also bothered me when Chrome came out for iOS, that it uses Safari engine due to App Store guidelines but with Chrome-ish UI. It's what I call "fake Chrome" and I went back to using Mobile Safari right away. I still am not sure how it's so popuar besides syncing up with Chrome bookmarks and history and such from desktop Chrome.
And agreed, Gmail app on Android is so much better than Mail app with Gmail in my opinion. Once my exchange server account expired, and I just redirected the alias to my gmail, I found Android integration better.
And I'm curious to see how Apple maps pans out, but I'm more frightened than anything. Turn by turn and Google maps on android is excellent. I can't imagine that being a big positive, getting rid of something I rely on quite a bit. At best, it'll be a "successful alternative"
Lightflow rocks so hard too. I wish iPhone had something comparable. Knowing whether I have SMS, missed call, Voicemail, or Gmail from the distance without picking it up.
The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about.
I really enjoy this interesting conversation/debate and I hope it continues. I'm an XDA noob but people here seem so tolerant or indifferent of others technology preferences (without atrributing the fanboy label), and it's so awesome.
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Yeah I am glad we had a chance to converse as well (even though I am sure that most others on this thread are bored lol). Its interesting to me as we are almost exactly opposite. Your coming from primarily iOS to Google's Android (dont even bother yourself with the skinned kind its no where near the same and will only frusterate you) and I'm coming from all Android to iOS. Whats more interesting is finding someone that is open to both sides of the fence. You dont find that often, but I wish others would try something before bashing an OS because of their love for another OS. You really miss out on some great tech and it took me going from one to the other to find that out.
Both OS have very great features and I wish I could just have one device that had all features, but we all know without competition neither Android or iOS would be what they are today. I'm kind of in dangerous territory right now as like I said I am heavily invested in both OS's. I really couldnt ever completely get rid of Android as I would miss the native Gmail application and especially the Google Maps. I havent really mentioned that, but your right it really is Android's killer feature and even though Apple is on the horizon of launching their own turn-by-turn solution I have doubts that it will be anywhere as good as Google Maps.
The main reason I use both devices right now is because I feel like I have to. The Nexus 7 has helped in that a little, but I need the LTE and the my Nexus' hotspot. I cant go back to 3G. It doesnt bother me a whole lot on the iPhone, but on my iPad or Nexus 7 I just feel like I have to have it. I know there are more less costly and convenient options than taking both the 4s for its phone, texting, music, siri, etc and my Nexus for Gmail, Google Maps, LTE, bigger display, rooting/roms, tinkering, openness, etc, but until a better solution comes a long I'm going to have to do just that. Also, like I said I do need both phones as I dont want to mix personal with business as that doesnt work too well especially when working full time and going to school 3/4 time, and then having a secondary business we run (even though the latter is suffering as I just dont have the time). All I know is that I am driving my wife completely nuts with all these devices lol.
Have a good night like I said its been interesting chatting with ya. Its rare to find someone on XDA that is even open to hearing about iOS even with the popularity of the iPad. I just hope that popularity brings more open people that arent so devoted to one brand that they completely refuse to listen to anything without feeling like they have to defend their phone or tablet choice to the death.
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"The thing that concerns me about N7, aside from the fact I have an iPad3 and love it so much, is that apps aren't yet tablet ready or made-for-tablet. Though for $200, and given that its Nexus brand and its popularity will rapidly increase, I think it'll be a well solidified market in no time. Who knows, maybe I'll end up getting one. Just dual wielding tablets seems more ridiculous to me than dual wielding phones, a concept I was originally "gun hoe" about."
I completely noticed I didnt even mention your concern about the above. This is exactly my only real problem with the Nexus 7. On my iPad I honestly dont have any iPhone apps on it only tablet optimized applications and on Android you just cant do that. The 7 inch form factor really makes this much easier to deal with. Even apps that are made for Android phones seem to work really well on the Nexus 7. There is still the lack of applications to deal with, but if you are like me you will most likely use your iPad for most applications anyway especially considering you can only get a measly 8 or 16gb on the Nexus 7. My justification of getting the N7 when I really cannot find a single fault with my iPad was that I read a lot and it is difficult reading on the iPad. Its heavy, awkward, and I just found myself not doing it or using a book instead. It was a little depressing as one of the main reasons I got an iPad was for reading. The Nexus 7 completely fills this void. It is lite and perfect for reading and is about the size of a smaller paperback book. The resolution is good enough not to bother you or give me headaches and it hard to put your finger on it, but it just feels right. I really like the seven inch form factor and I have found usages that I never even thought I would use. I loaded it up with emulators and it is perfect for those and about the only thing I really missed on my Xoom and Prime. Also I still have my OTG micro usb to USB cable I bought for my Xoom (I knew I kept it for a reason) and I can use it to hook up a PS3 controller to it and map the keys for emulators. It is great. One more thing I noticed as well. Loving my iPad means that I take it with me everywhere including work. I was always worried about dropping it or getting it stolen and it is kind of expensive. The Nexus 7 on the other hand is small (even fits in my back pocket or cargo shorts), easy to carry, and best of all is cheap enough that if I lost it or it was stolen I could recoup my losses and/or get me another one. Sure there are times at work on break or something that I wish I had my iPad, but the Nexus 7 does its job so well I often dont really care. I also rely heavily on a few apps like Dropbox, Twitter, and especially Evernote and the 7 inch form factor works excellent for all three and I am in sync with my iPad, Nexus 7, Macbook Pro, iPhone 4S, and Galaxy Nexus no matter where I am. Do yourself a favor and order one you wont regret it.
Whoah what a read...lol. Since you're so forthright I have to ask, exactly what kinds of tablet optimized apps are out there for iOS that aren't available for android? I'm interested myself since I had an iPad 2 that I gave to my wife in order to get an android tab for myself because I felt too restricted in what I could do with the iPad. I was looking for more work related things at the time (corporate email support, pdf editing, file level browsing, flash drive support etc.). It took a while but I understand there are now good PDF editing apps for iOS which there weren't a year or so ago. I'm kinda wondering now if there are things that would swing me back the other way, or at the very least things I should recommend to my wife.
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Got all 3 - Just sold on my ipad, glad to see the back of it. Just way too much hassle, all that itunes messing about.
Nexus 7 so far looking good.
Ordered my Nexus 6 the other day (32gb Midnight Blue). Will be here on Tuesday.
Did I make right choice of phone?
I recently turned in my HTC M8 for the Xperia Z3V. I know, "WORST" mistake I made this year lol.
I'm a huge fan of stock android and can't wait to experience Lollipop. I loved my Nexus 4 and Nexus 5, other than the poor cameras and loud speakers.
This is gonna be my first Motorola made phone, but you can't complain about what they've done in the smartphone market of late.
After watching a few reviews of the Nexus 6, I can't help but notice that the back looks kinda like this blue leather looking material (hopefully I'm wrong). I was hoping for some kind of strong plastic.
The size of the phone definitely isn't too big for me. Im a huge media user and can't wait to watch some 1080p movies on it.
My doubt in the phone only comes when watching comparison videos with the Note 4. A lot of comparison are giving the upper hand to the Note 4.
My wife has the Note 4 and it does feel nice, but the aging design (hardware and software) of the galaxy line is a downside for me. Seriously, who still wants to use that hardware home button?
I've also noticed some complaints of the screen burn-ins and the nexus logo falling apart.
Anyone wanna try to help ease my thoughts with their experience so far?
The backing on the nexus is a hard plastic fyi.
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You've made my day on that part. So did it just look better in person then? (The back)
I too was uncertain but took the plunge also on ordering one. It'll be here this week. I traded in my note 4. But thankfully I don't have to turn in my note 4 till 2 weeks after receiving the nexus. So it gives me a chance to choose. But I well tell you I've not been happy with the note 4. The every once in a while lag/hiccups and constant losing lte in getting discouraged. I've rooted it and that seems to help but not as good as a $700+ phone should be.
I've also seen and been scared of the reviews about logos falling off, screen burn in, and that blue. I just don't know if I'll like that blue metal ring around it. But I figured if I don't like the blue I can just put it in a case. Or worse yet just send it back and keep the note 4. But I highly doubt I'll keep the note with the problems it has. Granite for the most part there minor but still aggravating.
I loved my nexus 5 except battery, so if the 6 has a battery that last a day and with those speakers in sure to love it. Just wish tmobile carried the white version since the metal sides are silver,
Its hard to imagine what everyone will say in this forum.
I think you made the right choice. Surprise!
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Its hard to imagine what everyone will say in this forum.
I think you made the right choice. Surprise!
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I get what you're saying, but just because this is the Nexus 6 forum, doesn't mean everyone here is gonna say, "Its Awesome!". I've been reading and not everyone is pleased.
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i get what you're saying, but just because this is the nexus 6 forum, doesn't mean everyone here is gonna say, "its awesome!". I've been reading and not everyone is pleased.
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It's awesome!
You've made a good choice. But at the end of the day the majority will love it while some will be extra critical and point out things that most won't be able to notice. Overall the N6 is a beautiful beast imo
I had the same problem when ordering my new phone. But one of the main reasons against Samsung was the lack of high quality materials. My last two phones were Samsung and they were pure plastic. Sure there are phones feeling even better but I was like WOW when taking the Nexus 6 out of its box. The other reason was the pure (but rooted) android. I hate all the Samsung TouchWiz and HTC Sense and stuff like that.
Beside these things you are posting in the Nexus 6 board here so I guess the major part of the users will say you did the right choice!
I can't comment on the note 4.
I came from the 2013 motoX.
I could easily say it was the best phone I've ever used despite the camera issues.
Motorola in my opinion makes one of the best quality devices out there.
They're warranty is great and if any of these issues involving burn in or letters coming up effect you I'm sure they would gladly replace your device as I know they have in the past with all Motorola devices that have issues.
But I for one got the white model because the blue model doesn't look near as classy. The blue metal ring around it looks terrible and looks more of a bluish purple color.
However I bought my nexus 6 for the development community, screen size, and front facing speakers.
The camera has blown me away so far.
Even low light shots turn out incredibly well and exceed my expectations of a camera phone.
I for one don't think you will be disappointed. But you make the call!
And enjoy!!
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No regrets here. Of course a little biased - been using Motorola devices since the Star tac.
Few times I have strayed, haven't been happy.
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I received mine yesterday and first impressions is WOW! Those front facing speakers are just awesome!!! Coming from the note 4, the only thing I miss so far is the s-pen. I don't miss the lag, bugs, or LTE dropping lol.
But in all serious I do like the nexus 6. I just can't get over those speakers, and don't think I could take less now.
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Best phone I have had to date....
I would wait for the ummm Nexus 7(not sure if they're going to call it that since there is already 2 nexus 7 versions out!) or will they call it the nexus 7P going to be really
Hey guys,
I've been an Android guy since the Desire HD days, (2010), but before that I had an iPhone. My switch to Android was mainly for the freedom of thinkering, customizing things to my needs and because by that time, devices where usually cheaper.
I have been seriously considering switching back to iPhone, (6s+) specifically, as I feel that in the last years iOS has advanced, as well as Android, greatly.
I buy Nexus devices for the clean Google Android experience, and fast transparent updates with no carrier OEM interaction.
This whole N update has been a disaster IMO, and I'm reluctant to buy a 6p (I'm always one year behind) thinking the same thing will probably happen to it with the Android 8 update. And I always feel as I have to make compromises with my Nexus devices, like the bad camera (IMO) for the N6, or lag after a few days, or the HORRIBLE touch issues on my 2013 Nexus 7 (which I still love).
Not sure if I could handle the change though, will give my wife's iPhone a spin when it receives iOS 10 today.
Any thoughts?
My thoughts:
N6 and iPhone are very good phones.
Choice is personal.
Disadvantage of the iPhone is the price.
NLBeev said:
My thoughts:
N6 and iPhone are very good phones.
Choice is personal.
Disadvantage of the iPhone is the price.
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Thanks for the reply, though it seems that the price difference gets smaller each time as the Pixel XL is rumored to cost $649, and the 7s Plus 32GB costs $769.
Honestly not a huge difference, more so when you take in to account that iPhones tend to resale for more (at least here in the states)
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This whole N update has been a disaster IMO, and I'm reluctant to buy a 6p (I'm always one year behind) thinking the same thing will probably happen to it with the Android 8 update. And I always feel as I have to make compromises with my Nexus devices, like the bad camera (IMO) for the N6, or lag after a few days, or the HORRIBLE touch issues on my 2013 Nexus 7 (which I still love).
Not sure if I could handle the change though, will give my wife's iPhone a spin when it receives iOS 10 today.
Any thoughts?
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It has been, but this fall is not good for updates, or for judging by updates:
https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/13/ios-10-update-bricked-my-iphone/
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.....difference gets smaller each time as the Pixel XL is rumored to cost $649, and the 7s Plus 32GB costs $769.
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Right but..., we pay to much.
The design of the iPhones is superior.
Imo that's the reason why people are so happy to pay the high price.
When we look further.... We have here publications that Apple is fined to pay 13 billion euro. They pay 0,005% taxes instead of 30%.
Apple-like companies are stealing from the community, they use infrastructure etc for free.
Maybe you need a brief break from Android, as i might it is really a personal decision versus specs.
In my opinion, it isn't such a great time to upgrade yet, I honestly wanted to upgrade to the OnePlus 3 but alas, it's GSM only so its bands don't support Verizon. Then I was looking towards the Galaxy Note 7 and was thinking about upgrading, but then the whole battery explosion fiasco happened. Now the iPhone 7 came out and I wasn't amazed one bit. Keep in mind I used to have iPhones since the 3G lineup, but the customization capabilities were so stale and weak so I switched over to Android on the Galaxy S5, never looked back.
If I am to upgrade anytime this year it's going to have to be a "Pixel" device and they're going to have to wow me, otherwise I think I'll hang onto my N6 for another year, still an amazing device
I wouldn't get the 6p, since it is snapdragon 810. Frankly, the 6's 805 is a better chip.
Not sure the reason for the panic about the update, it has only been a few days. They've been adding one device at a time, presumably to let the dust settle on the latest device before moving on to the next one. 6p was the most recent to get the update, only one remaining now is the 6.
The next ones (named pixel instead of nexus?) will be snapdragon 820 or 821, which is finally a good 64bit chip from QC.
IMO the ZTE Axon 7 is the best bang for the buck right now. Flagship specs and all the latest features for $400. You could sell your Nexus 6 for $150-$200 to help offset the cost.
Thanks for the input everyone.
Gave my wife's 6s+ a spin, and it would be a pretty big change. Going to think about it for a while and see. Depending on the Pixel lineup I will choose.
Thanks again!
The one benefit of Android is we're really starting to get great phones at a bargain price, something that will never happen to iOS. For instance, my wife got the Amazon-version of the Moto G4 for $125 and it's a pretty amazing phone. Not stock android, and who knows about updates, but it's a great phone for the price.
I'm going to have a lot of trouble upgrading to anything that costs over $300. I'm disappointed that the upcoming Pixel phones are going to be in the Samsung/Apple price range, as opposed to ~$300-400.
After my Nexus 6, I'm considering staying a year behind. Upgrade to a 6p or 5x. Stay in the ecosystem, get the Google updates, get a faster phone but not pay leading-edge prices.
I have three things that keep me from going iPhone and one of them is something I can overlook. I need to have access to the file structure and use my phone as a USB drive. I also need to have the ability to send ANY file to another person via email, like zip files or different image formats like .tiff. The iPhone email restrictions are a deal breaker to me. I also hate having every app on the main screen all of the time, but I can live without it. I'm heavily invested in the Google system, but I'd give that up too.
An iPhone for 99% of people is a solid choice, it's just a fact. But guess what? Android is a solid choice as well. But things like OEM induced OS fragmentation and carrier interference make it a bit less desirable, but Nexus is the way a fix for that. I have to say if they get rid of Nexus devices and get rid of the ability to root (I love ad blocking at the system level) I may have to go iPhone as well.
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Right but..., we pay to much.
The design of the iPhones is superior.
Imo that's the reason why people are so happy to pay the high price.
When we look further.... We have here publications that Apple is fined to pay 13 billion euro. They pay 0,005% taxes instead of 30%.
Apple-like companies are stealing from the community, they use infrastructure etc for free.
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The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol
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The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol
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Apple *invented* exploding batteries.... (yep, they should feel free to actually take credit for this one)
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/more-exploding-iphones/
DogzOfWar said:
The one benefit of Android is we're really starting to get great phones at a bargain price, something that will never happen to iOS. For instance, my wife got the Amazon-version of the Moto G4 for $125 and it's a pretty amazing phone. Not stock android, and who knows about updates, but it's a great phone for the price.
I'm going to have a lot of trouble upgrading to anything that costs over $300. I'm disappointed that the upcoming Pixel phones are going to be in the Samsung/Apple price range, as opposed to ~$300-400.
After my Nexus 6, I'm considering staying a year behind. Upgrade to a 6p or 5x. Stay in the ecosystem, get the Google updates, get a faster phone but not pay leading-edge prices.
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Well I enjoy being on the bleeding edge, that is why I bought Nexus and put up with the shortcomings of Nexus, but the way Google has handled N for the N6 leaves a really bad taste. I know it sounds picky but we buy Nexus for the often mentioned Google updates. Not a fan of the 6p but I'm seriosly considering it, maybe I'll get it during Black Friday.
Dusty Rhodes said:
I have three things that keep me from going iPhone and one of them is something I can overlook. I need to have access to the file structure and use my phone as a USB drive. I also need to have the ability to send ANY file to another person via email, like zip files or different image formats like .tiff. The iPhone email restrictions are a deal breaker to me. I also hate having every app on the main screen all of the time, but I can live without it. I'm heavily invested in the Google system, but I'd give that up too.
An iPhone for 99% of people is a solid choice, it's just a fact. But guess what? Android is a solid choice as well. But things like OEM induced OS fragmentation and carrier interference make it a bit less desirable, but Nexus is the way a fix for that. I have to say if they get rid of Nexus devices and get rid of the ability to root (I love ad blocking at the system level) I may have to go iPhone as well.
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Well, I've found that I can pretty much replace/cover all my needs with Apple Apps. Also, from using my wife's iPhone, I agree with those who say that the Google experience is actually better in iOS now. They even have features/apps we don't have :silly:
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The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol
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Lol, A sturdy case fixes the bending and a battery change fixes the bloating. Nothing fixes a burnt phone, you are right.
doitright said:
Apple *invented* exploding batteries.... (yep, they should feel free to actually take credit for this one)
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/more-exploding-iphones/
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Lol
jibust said:
Well I enjoy being on the bleeding edge, that is why I bought Nexus and put up with the shortcomings of Nexus, but the way Google has handled N for the N6 leaves a really bad taste. I know it sounds picky but we buy Nexus for the often mentioned Google updates. Not a fan of the 6p but I'm seriosly considering it, maybe I'll get it during Black Friday.
Well, I've found that I can pretty much replace/cover all my needs with Apple Apps. Also, from using my wife's iPhone, I agree with those who say that the Google experience is actually better in iOS now. They even have features/apps we don't have :silly:
Lol, A sturdy case fixes the bending and a battery change fixes the bloating. Nothing fixes a burnt phone, you are right.
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Unfortunately most people have cases that look nice, but have very little protection.
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Unfortunately most people have cases that look nice, but have very little protection.
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Well I believe that it depends on the person, I can use a phone without case and it won't have issues, still I use a pretty slim one that provide very little protection.
My wife on the other hand, needs to have her phone encased in an almost military grade cover, my kid the same.
There are just people who take a little bit more care of their phones, or just give it a lot more value, for others it's just another tool so if it falls it falls.
I had the note 7. I tried to like it. I like the camera a lot. But I'm sitting at best buy right now returning the note 7. I knew going into the note 7 that TW was a memory hog but I tried to like it. After using it for a couple of weeks and used my N6 again, I couldn't believe how much quicker everything felt. So here I am, back to the N6, I'll be on the look out for the pixel phones.
Since price and OEM practices of apple arent an issue for you, get an iphone.
iphones are targeted at a specific demographic and it seems you are part of it.
Gonna resurrect this thread since the Pixel phones just came out. I honestly do not find the Pixel (reg and XL) appealing.
I used a co-workers S6 Edge, and I have to admit, it was pretty nice. I would actually go for the Note 7 since I like the bigger screen (yes, explosion, yes fire, just saying).
Any recommendations?
I got mine shortly after it launched and immediately fell in love with it. Since then I haven't had a single urge to upgrade, which is odd for me because I'm usually itching to upgrade ASAP, especially since I have T-Mobile's JUMP plan where I could upgrade every six months. Not a single phone has enticed me enough to ditch my beloved Nexus 6, every time a new phone review comes out, I'm like "meh". Even the Pixel isn't tempting me, though I'll probably get it in about six months or so when the price (hopefully) drops and the bugs have been worked out.
My roommate also had the Nexus 6 and liked it, but not nearly as much as I do. He recently upgraded to a Note 5 since his 6 randomly stopped charging and he loves it and says it's one of the best phones he's ever had (he's not a geek like me and doesn't root it or anything, although I showed him how to do it with the 6).
Shortly after I got mine, I scratched the hell out the screen while working on my parents car so there's a nice inch long semicircular scratch in the upper right hand corner of the screen, about an inch below where the battery icon is, along with a few other small scratches. Also I've dropped it a few times so the corners are scratched up (I usually have a slim bumper case on it). Also over time the heat from the battery and processor seems to have melted the glue that holds down the backplate since it bulges out towards the center of the phone on both sides. I like the phone so much that I've even considered using my jump upgrade to get a brand new one haha It's definitely the best phone during the six years that I've been using Android.
Anyone else share the same sentiments?
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I got mine shortly after it launched and immediately fell in love with it. Since then I haven't had a single urge to upgrade, which is odd for me because I'm usually itching to upgrade ASAP, especially since I have T-Mobile's JUMP plan where I could upgrade every six months. Not a single phone has enticed me enough to ditch my beloved Nexus 6, every time a new phone review comes out, I'm like "meh". Even the Pixel isn't tempting me, though I'll probably get it in about six months or so when the price (hopefully) drops and the bugs have been worked out.
My roommate also had the Nexus 6 and liked it, but not nearly as much as I do. He recently upgraded to a Note 5 since his 6 randomly stopped charging and he loves it and says it's one of the best phones he's ever had (he's not a geek like me and doesn't root it or anything, although I showed him how to do it with the 6).
Shortly after I got mine, I scratched the hell out the screen while working on my parents car so there's a nice inch long semicircular scratch in the upper right hand corner of the screen, about an inch below where the battery icon is, along with a few other small scratches. Also I've dropped it a few times so the corners are scratched up (I usually have a slim bumper case on it). Also over time the heat from the battery and processor seems to have melted the glue that holds down the backplate since it bulges out towards the center of the phone on both sides. I like the phone so much that I've even considered using my jump upgrade to get a brand new one haha It's definitely the best phone during the six years that I've been using Android.
Anyone else share the same sentiments?
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Due to the raving mad camera of the Pixel XL, were its screen the size of my N6, I would be ordering one. Otherwise, there's nothing out there that would make me leave my N6.
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at this point, its unlikely that you will find a brand new one anywhere, unfortunately..
believe me, there are tons of nexus users who feel the same way that you do. I had no desire to get a 6p, and even less desire to get an 800 dollar Pixel xl, when this N6 still runs so great..
Yea you're probably right Luckily mine isn't that bad, the scratches on the screen are only noticeable when the screen is off.
After I posted this I saw people were signing the praises of the 6 in other threads haha.
I love the way the six looks, except I wish it was all black. I got a black skin for the back that had the nexus and M cut outs, and had a hard time finding a black bumper case with a clear back to show of the skin. I'm not really a fan of the way that the back of the pixel looks, so if I get it I will definitely be putting a slim case on it.
Yes I am, but to develop for Nougat, I needed a second phone to have a daily driver while I rework my changes for 7.0. But since my N6 being only 32 GB, and I've found a 64 GB 6P at a very good price, my N6 became my second phone.
I've been a fan of Nexus devices for several years - I've had 4, 5, 6, 7 & 10, all a pleasure to use. When the 4 came out I was happy with it, but the HD screen prompted me to upgrade to the 5. When the 6 came out, same thing - the call of the QHD was too strong...
But now I've been so happy with my N6 that I've ignored the 5X & 6P and have every intention of bypassing the Pixel. I don't like Apple products because of that company's vile ethos, and now that Google seem to be Apple wannabees it looks as if my relationship with their phones is over too. Well, at least until my N6 dies, when I'll be looking at something like the LG V20, OnePlus 4, or whatever the current similar top-spec device is at that future time.
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Well, at least until my N6 dies, when I'll be looking at something like the LG V20, OnePlus 4, or whatever the current similar top-spec device is at that future time.
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I keep a three foot long pointed stick to fend myself against the temptation of buying a fancy new phone. But usually the reason I don't do that is because I don't want them stock, to me stock's boring, and I can't rationalize it to myself that I've paid a lot of money for a phone. Not a hobby project, just a smartphone like the kids today.
But if I want a hobby project, I'm sure as hell I don't want cyanogemod, it has more bugs than a Windows alpha leak. I've used for a year on my Note 3, it was an official cm12.1 release, and still too many bugs for my comfort. So since I have the source, and bake my own flavour, it would be a huge step back, as in backing up on a freeway measured step back to go back to hacked together more or less daily driver level roms.
I'm not a developer, just a propellorhead (I've been in mainframe tech for over thirty years), but the ability to play with the devices and have proper control is important, so any device I buy will have to be rootable. They mostly seem to be thanks to the excellent devs in this site.
P.S. It looks as if the world and his dog agree with you about Cyanogen...
http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/19/cyanogen_and_monopolies/
Definitely, it's just a great device in many aspects. The screen size is a matter of taste of course, but perfect for me since I do a lot of office stuff during commutes. The 5+ hours of screen time gets me well through the day, and front speakers are easy to get addicted to as well
The only thing I think about sometimes is that it's a tad bit heavy when holding it for longer periods of time. Don't know if it's heavier than other phones with similar screen sizes? Still, I'm camping for at least another year, or until it breaks and can't be repaired.
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at this point, its unlikely that you will find a brand new one anywhere, unfortunately..
believe me, there are tons of nexus users who feel the same way that you do. I had no desire to get a 6p, and even less desire to get an 800 dollar Pixel xl, when this N6 still runs so great..
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As far as I've seen there are brand new sealed boxes on Amazon still just under $300
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My very first "smart phone" was the release of the T-Mobile G1, and fell in love with Android. Been on numerous devices since then but the day I picked this up it was incredible. It actually fit my hands. To date my favorite device and my daily driver. My 6p is still in its box as a backup.
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wase4711 said:
at this point, its unlikely that you will find a brand new one anywhere, unfortunately..
believe me, there are tons of nexus users who feel the same way that you do. I had no desire to get a 6p, and even less desire to get an 800 dollar Pixel xl, when this N6 still runs so great..
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There are still brand new in box N6's on ebay. They may be getting harder to find, but they do exist.
But anyway, I still love the heck out of my N6 even after 18 months of use. My battery % rarely goes below 60%, so my battery should last a good long while. I'm in no rush to get a new phone. It's lightning quick with Nougat and does everything I need.
Yep you can get bnib N6 XT1103 for 259.00 on EBay. Thought about buying one for a spare. Its a solid device still.
Interesting! I knew they still had to be floating around.
What was funny was I went on a job interview yesterday and one of the guys had a Nexus 6 and he was saying how much he loved it hahaha
I'm sure many will disagree with me and that's fine but my only complaint is the size. It is larger than I'd prefer. If it were the size of a moto X pure or 5" that would be good. Even maybe 5.5 but nearly at 6" it's too large.
If I get the Pixel I would get the smaller one. I'm done with the huge phones. Just isn't practical for me.
I'm still happy about this phone but I still want to replace is sometime soon. Hopefully the Huawei mate 9 will be good and also have a 6 inch screen. Just cant go back to a smaller size.
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For me, my big problem is that i still can say a big "yes", is all that i need... and is a problem. I don't like 6p and pixel XL (3 years with a phone >=5.7, i'm not confortable with any smaller), they are too... how to say, similar to others. My N6 is diferent, isn't soo square as others. Ok, i don't have fingerprint, slow-mo camera... but i use my charger qi when i arrive at work, my screen is, for me, best i ever seen in a phone, FRONT SPEAKERS!!!!!!, there are 2 ways to see a video, with our phone, and the others. Camera, for me works too fine, hdr+ is incredible, ok, in low-light isn't perfect but... it isn't a professional camera.
Maybe i ask too much, but i can't see any phones that offers me enought reason to change my phone :S. 64bits SoC... well, to work i use my laptop, i won't install my work-software on it, i still don't need it. 3GB ram... without comments, offer the same. So... when appears any really different i will think on that, meanwhile i'm in love with my nexus and my android black bumper
still loving this device. i got the 32 gig, and i constantly think about getting a 64, even though my phone is in perfect shape. got it from pre-order, and i'm hoping that it lasts another year or 2.
dont think ill be able to go back to anything less than 5.7" display, and dual front facing stereo speakers is on my checklist, which no one seems to offer any more, if i were to get a new phone.
the antennas also seem to be really good, but i had an antennagate iphone 4 for 4.5 years.
the design is really sleek, no weird bumps or panels. the phone came at a great time to remain competitive, since it was before the 810 fiasco, and seems like our 805 can support daydream. still unhappy we havent been able to get slo-mo working (since the oneplus 1 has the same sensor with slo-mo)
it's still a great phone
Bought the phone right after its launching. Still runs strongly.
Iam a savvy guy on smartphone changing device every year. However after Nexus 6, I can't find any other comparable phone with wireless changing, dual front facing speaking and slim bezel. Hopefully the next pixel could achieve something like that. Price is really not a issue as long as it is a solid one.
Still happy.
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