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[ROM]STOCK! Telstra SENSE 3.5 2.27.841.6 - CWM FLASHABLE - READ OP!!!

I put this in the General section because there is no development going on with this at all (in this thread keep an eye open in dev section for a rom built from this base). If mods want to move it to Dev section then so be it, but there is nothing else being done to this zip.
THIS IS A PURE STOCK TELSTRA SENSE 3.5 build. It has been rooted, deodexed, zipaligned, but nothing else has been done to make it any better. it still has all the Telstra bloat, and horrible wallpapers.
this is not designed for people to flash willy nilly, if you dont know how to fastboot the boot.img on it, then it will not work for you, and i will not hold your hand in doing so. all this is, is a stock base, CWM flashable for anyone to use as they please. if you dont know how to do any of this stuff, then leave it alone and let someone else do the hard work for you, but dont complain about anything. nothing in this zip has been optimized for the vivid or canadian raider.
i have attached the boot.img in a zip file to this post, you HAVE to fastboot flash the boot image before you can flash the rom in CWM. if you dont know how, you better google that ish.
i am not responsible for stupidity. i have flashed this onto my phone 30 times already in various stages, so it is somewhat usable in its current form, but needs a lot of tweaks and changes.
thanks to bananacakes for his updater-script, and binary, as the one i was originally trying to use didnt like me and i didnt want to waste time on it.
again...i repeat. this is not for you if you dont know how to make it work. this is not a hand holding thread, and i am not supporting this
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has anyone else noticed no Android Market on the ROM? i just noticed that.

seattleboi1982 said:
has anyone else noticed no Android Market on the ROM? i just noticed that.
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Just rip it using one of the other ROMs into system/app.
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Aus_Azn said:
Just rip it using one of the other ROMs into system/app.
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i used the super htc tool, but att vvm app no longer works or will install. nice rom though.

seattleboi1982 said:
i used the super htc tool, but att vvm app no longer works or will install. nice rom though.
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my guess is its the fingerprint and model name
trying to fix it in my rom build, but VVM wont even show up even though its in /system/app/

Pirateghost said:
my guess is its the fingerprint and model name
trying to fix it in my rom build, but VVM wont even show up even though its in /system/app/
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i have it installed i extracted form from stock ROM and installed as a regular apk but it is not working either, but at least it does open i thing it has something to be with the carrier I'm going to ca;; AT&T right now and let you guys now!!!

JEANRIVERA said:
i have it installed i extracted form from stock ROM and installed as a regular apk but it is not working either, but at least it does open i thing it has something to be with the carrier I'm going to ca;; AT&T right now and let you guys now!!!
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you are on the LTE data plan correct? there are 2 flavors of the LTE data plans, one with VVM and one with no VVM, just basic.

Sorry my bad it wasn't in this Rom it was at holicake but if you try to install it via market it tells you a missing library we might be able to pull it from stock att vivid Rom
i just installed the att mesages apk and its working fine now but this one include visual voicemail messages and call history

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Sorry my bad it wasn't in this Rom it was at holicake but if you try to install it via market it tells you a missing library we might be able to pull it from stock att vivid Rom
i just installed the att mesages apk and its working fine now but this one include visual voicemail messages and call history
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Stay away from att messages!, it resets & hijacks your voicemail config from the att side. It's a pain in the rear to reset There's a reason why its not seen from the marketplace on the us vivid. Stick with the visual voicemail apk.
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8125Omnimax said:
Stay away from att messages!, it resets & hijacks your voicemail config from the att side. It's a pain in the rear to reset There's a reason why its not seen from the marketplace on the us vivid. Stick with the visual voicemail apk.
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i didn't knew that but as i said it just a workaround it is not a solution

8125Omnimax said:
Stay away from att messages!, it resets & hijacks your voicemail config from the att side. It's a pain in the rear to reset There's a reason why its not seen from the marketplace on the us vivid. Stick with the visual voicemail apk.
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not only that, it moves your mailbox from one voicemail system to another, so you lose any saved messages, all your greetings. Pain in the ass, not worth it.

Holy cow, bloatware in the stock HTC apps?! Dang. I can't believe that it's actually worse than ATT.
Looks like RRb5 took care of most of it; I'd still like to see some Sense 3.5 Beats music up in there, though. I figured out how to "port" it between Sense 3 ROMs, but efforts to port to 3.5 failed as they completely redid the music app for that.
Going to temporarily roll back to Sense 3 for now, till 3.5 is fully debloated. Great ROM though, Pirate!

Aus_Azn said:
Holy cow, bloatware in the stock HTC apps?! Dang. I can't believe that it's actually worse than ATT.
Looks like RRb5 took care of most of it; I'd still like to see some Sense 3.5 Beats music up in there, though. I figured out how to "port" it between Sense 3 ROMs, but efforts to port to 3.5 failed as they completely redid the music app for that.
Going to temporarily roll back to Sense 3 for now, till 3.5 is fully debloated. Great ROM though, Pirate!
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try the one pirateghost has been working on, its nice.

seattleboi1982 said:
try the one pirateghost has been working on, its nice.
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Uh yeah, I mentioned in my post that I've tried it; I just rolled back to S3 for now because the stock apps (read: music) are bloatless. RRb5 still has BigPond in places around the ROM.

Aus_Azn said:
Uh yeah, I mentioned in my post that I've tried it; I just rolled back to S3 for now because the stock apps (read: music) are bloatless. RRb5 still has BigPond in places around the ROM.
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Where does it have big pond anywhere?
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Where does it have big pond anywhere?
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Main place i noticed is in the Music app.
Also the undeletable T secure wifi profile.
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Aus_Azn said:
Main place i noticed is in the Music app.
Also the undeletable T secure wifi profile.
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I use Google music so i didnt even notice. I will look into it.
I'm not seeing the wifi profile issue though.
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please help me thank u
hi,the music player,don't have Volume adjustment Button，there is bpm store Button，how can i change a Volume adjustment Button on it Replace the bpm store Button,I like the original, do not want to join any similar beats and sound effects are not native functionality. thank u.
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[Q] Can you give me advice on a ROM for what I need?

I got screwed up by the stupid AT&T update... it only half finished. I don't know why. I kept telling it NO, not to update. But at some point it must have on a reboot. In the update section it says, "Continue update" but clicking that does absolutely nothing.
UNFORTUNATELY, now I have NO WIFI and NO BLUETOOTH. Can't see any wifi routers now, and can't see any bluetooth devices. UGH! DAMN AT&T! I didn't even ask for an update. SO....
HELP ME PICK A ROM!
I used to flash ROMs on my older PocketPC phones... I flashed a Gingerbread ROM on my Galaxy Tab, and I flashed a ROM on my HTC Aria.
So tell me what your opinions are about some ROMs. Here's some features I'd like to have:
- ICS
- Newest Sense
- HTC's button dial command and voice dial that was left out of ICS (bastards).
- Native wifi hotspot
If there's a ROM that combines that and is STABLE, tell me about it! I want opinions.

There's really only one option and it's not on xda.
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Are you just gonna leave me hanging with that?

I'm by no means an expert, but I've recently taken the dive into helping a friend with his AT&T Vivid. After looking around at all the ICS ROMs out there, the one I settled on was Extreme Holiday Dream X2...doesn't have the newest sense version, but it's running 3.6, so it's fairly recent. Also (again, not an expert), I'm not sure any newer version of sense would work on the Vivid.
Now as a heads up, most people don't seem to have issues with the ROM (and it is a very nice one), but we have had some problems that may or may not be related. First is WiFi constantly attempting to turn on and never working, which I think I've narrowed down to the fact the ROM uses the stock kernel, so I'll be attempting to fix that tonight.
Other problem is the ROM Toolbox not working, though I think that may be linked to the way I rooted the device since SU isn't giving permissions to it (set to auto-allow). That I'll be attempting to fix with SuperSU.
I know this ROM is stable for just about everyone else so far (no actual known bugs), but I don't know if it meets your last two prerequisites, since I'm not really all that familiar with Android devices in general yet. I'll ask my friend and see if he knows.
Due to my permissions right now as a new member, I can't link you to it, but you should be able to find it by googling. The thread I found was on rootzwiki.
Hope this helps. If I find out more about the button dial/voice dial and native WiFi hotspot support, I'll let you know.
EDIT: So I asked about the features, seems like it has the button dialer and native WiFi Hotspot, but not the voice dialer. I'm sure there's an app for it, but it's not native.

Google the rom in my signature

Maqical said:
Google the rom in my signature
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That's the one.
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I'm using extreme holiday dream also.
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Except that WC's forum is down. Is there an alternative way to get the ROM and kernel?

Suleeto said:
Except that WC's forum is down. Is there an alternative way to get the ROM and kernel?
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He shuts it down when he's uploading new builds.
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[Q] Multitasking.- fixed or not?

I love the look of this phone, and I was insanely happy with my One X but I had to make the jump to the S3 (and later the Note 2) because of the multitasking woes that plagued the phone. No matter how I phrase an internet search I can't hear any preview that addresses the issue that many review sites completely ignored the last time around.
So the bottom line question is this: Will the M7 have standard multitasking? (I.e. the phone does NOT refresh applications/web pages/etc in an effort to conserve battery life).

+1 this was my biggest gripe with the hox....I switched to the gs3 as well but looking to possibility move back to htc if this has been fixed
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Indeed. HTC has fantastic build quality (I'd easily put the one X with any iPhone). If it had multitasking I'd put up with a non removable battery. Especially since I tend to watch a lot of Netflix lately while waiting for classes and I love the idea of the speaker placements on the m7.
And the one X still had the best camera I'd ever had on a smartphone)
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Sorry guys can you clarify about the multitasking issue on the HTC One X? I had an Nexus phone a few years back and thought all Android phones fully multitasked out the box so to speak.

Android has multi tasking but i heard htc one x broke that. When you switch to another app and comeback using recent apps that app would need to be reopened which means it gets terminated even if you dont kill it

It has been fixed on the One according to all the videos I've seen
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Do you have a link?
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daleski75 said:
Sorry guys can you clarify about the multitasking issue on the HTC One X? I had an Nexus phone a few years back and thought all Android phones fully multitasked out the box so to speak.
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The HTC One X had the worst multi tasking of any phone. You could literally go between just two apps and they apps would have to completely reload. They would not even be in a save state. For instance, i would be surfing the internet, go text real quick and come back, only to find my internet had to reload the whole page I was just on 30 seconds ago. It was horrible. It ruined the phone for a lot of people. And forget about trying to switch between any more apps lol. I'm not sure if HTC even acknowledged it, or I believe they said "that is just how it works". If I had known it was that bad, I would have got the s3 over it. But I bought one of the first ones so woe is me.

soapbubble said:
Do you have a link?
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What I said is based on those hundred of One videos I've watched. Still I'll post if I manage to get a link
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I found a German video right here where you can see it.
At 2:32 you can see it.
This video is short but quite informing also if you dont understand german.
lg chris115379

sorry but i don't see anything in that video that shows that the HTC one has true multi tasking?
i hope all the people who have played with the demo units can let us know.

It seems pretty clear to me from that video that it does.
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ponts said:
It seems pretty clear to me from that video that it does.
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Just to clarify:
People aren't asking if the HTC One can multitask, it is obvious that it can.
We are asking:
How is the memory management on the phone? Does it unload app quickly, like the HTC One X? Or does it save them in memory.
With the HTC One X, if u opened a webpage, then went to the home scream, once u returned to the webpage it would reload instead of staying in memory.
We want to know if basicly this behaviour is still present? Or if it stays in memory.

Maedhros said:
Just to clarify:
People aren't asking if the HTC One can multitask, it is obvious that it can.
We are asking:
How is the memory management on the phone? Does it unload app quickly, like the HTC One X? Or does it save them in memory.
With the HTC One X, if u opened a webpage, then went to the home scream, once u returned to the webpage it would reload instead of staying in memory.
We want to know if basicly this behaviour is still present? Or if it stays in memory.
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Hello! I'm not sure about this problem but do you have a HTC One X? If so did you guys ever check the defined values of it's OOM settings already? Since that's the one that handles the killing of background apps etc.

ponts said:
It seems pretty clear to me from that video that it does.
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can you please explain how the video demonstrates the multi task for me then? thanks.
this issue with the multi tasking we're referring to was the modification made by HTC in Sense. see here:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/17/htc-confirms-one-x-multitasking-tweaks-in-sense-4/

Ddot196 said:
The HTC One X had the worst multi tasking of any phone. You could literally go between just two apps and they apps would have to completely reload. They would not even be in a save state. For instance, i would be surfing the internet, go text real quick and come back, only to find my internet had to reload the whole page I was just on 30 seconds ago. It was horrible. It ruined the phone for a lot of people. And forget about trying to switch between any more apps lol. I'm not sure if HTC even acknowledged it, or I believe they said "that is just how it works". If I had known it was that bad, I would have got the s3 over it. But I bought one of the first ones so woe is me.
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This is how android multitasking works. Sucks. I tried HTC one x and s3, same. I don't think there's a problem with 2gb ram
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wednesday13 said:
This is how android multitasking works. Sucks. I tried HTC one x and s3, same. I don't think there's a problem with 2gb ram
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It all depends on your minfree values. With minfree values you/HTC can set the phone to close apps at certain memory values, to have a certain memory free when you are using apps.
Higher minfrees= more apps closed= more ram available to the few opened apps
Lower minfrees=more apps opened= less ram available to the many open apps.
All this can be changed once you root the phone so I wouldn't worry what it comes with. The beauty of Android is that EVERYTHING basically can be changed. That is if you root it There are about 1000000000 ways to do it

HOX Multitasking
Yes this was the initial behaviour of the HOX but since updating to Jelly Bean i have not noticed this anymore.

wednesday13 said:
This is how android multitasking works. Sucks. I tried HTC one x and s3, same. I don't think there's a problem with 2gb ram
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I've owned an S3 since release and rarely, if ever, have had this problem. Do you routinely use 30 apps at once or something?

ydoucare said:
I've owned an S3 since release and rarely, if ever, have had this problem. Do you routinely use 30 apps at once or something?
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S3 with 2gb ram? Or 1gb ram? I open like 7 tabs on chrome then I get a launcher redraw for 1gb ram
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Multitasking

Do we know yet if htc has fixed the multitasking in the one. I had an x and x+ and the thing could not have more than a couple apps open at one time. It was quite annoying going into your mail app from the browser and having your browser reload when you go back into it. This drove me nuts.
If htc fixed that on the one I will be first in line to get one. If not then i will take a pass.

I read some article (hands-on) and it said multitasking is great, the phone just flew between apps

This is one thing I am looking for as well. I can't stand the multi tasking on my one x. It is completely useless. Couldn't even switch between two apps without having to reload them. I had also heard in one of the hands on videos I believe that they said the multi tasking had been fixed as well. But I'm still waiting for a thorough review.
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there are loads of videos of the new multitasking I think it shows 9cards like Web os style or bb10
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This is one thing I am looking for as well. I can't stand the multi tasking on my one x. It is completely useless. Couldn't even switch between two apps without having to reload them. I had also heard in one of the hands on videos I believe that they said the multi tasking had been fixed as well. But I'm still waiting for a thorough review.
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haarpbot said:
This is one thing I am looking for as well. I can't stand the multi tasking on my one x. It is completely useless. Couldn't even switch between two apps without having to reload them. I had also heard in one of the hands on videos I believe that they said the multi tasking had been fixed as well. But I'm still waiting for a thorough review.
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lol, did you legit just copy and paste Ddot's post?
But, yeah, I have the SGS3 now and it's nice to actually have multitasking compared to my HOX. I miss the non-pentile screen so much and I will definitely be pre-ordering one of these.

Lol hey I knew that post looked familiar! he was just quoting without the quotes heh. Yea I have the hox and my buddy has the s3 and it absolutely drives me nuts that he can actually multi task...I almost stopped using the button on this phone as it is near useless.
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i read that it is limited to the last 9 apps you have used (which is more than enough i think)
so hopefully that means they have sorted it but could only get the last 9 working.

I'm fine with the last 9 working, as long as they are truly staying in some sort of saved state and pull back up to where you were at without reloading I'll be ecstatic.
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balto said:
Do we know yet if htc has fixed the multitasking in the one. I had an x and x+ and the thing could not have more than a couple apps open at one time. It was quite annoying going into your mail app from the browser and having your browser reload when you go back into it. This drove me nuts.
If htc fixed that on the one I will be first in line to get one. If not then i will take a pass.
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Bad multitasking is a disaster .
Choose Samsung Galaxy Note 2 everything is great in this field.
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Phil750123 said:
i read that it is limited to the last 9 apps you have used (which is more than enough i think)
so hopefully that means they have sorted it but could only get the last 9 working.
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9 apps only? With 2GB of RAM? A complete TRAGEDY!
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The problem is if those 9 apps are actually held in RAM or not. The HOX showed plenty of apps in the recent app list, it's just that they had all been killed already so it re-loaded from scratch.
Hopefully HTC have learnt, and if not then 2Gb RAM should make a difference too
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very nice

Any one get the ONE already can give some view on the mulitask performance?
If you you open several APP, like web browser and other APPs, when you switch back to web browser will it reload the pages?

Seems to work flawlessly none of the nine apps refresh
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The phone will not have any multitasking problems with 2 gigs of RAM.
One X had only 1 gb, that's why it sucked with more than 2 apps open.

aydc said:
The phone will not have any multitasking problems with 2 gigs of RAM.
One X had only 1 gb, that's why it sucked with more than 2 apps open.
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1g shall work fine for multitask, but one x has special handling to deal with multitask that cause it a problem. It killed app when memory still very much.
So we need ONE user to give their feedback on how good it is now.

Can someone with the One make a video and post it up please.
Go to Youtube Desktop version, play the video to 1 min in, Press home, go into email app, Press home then go to task Switcher app, Click on Youtube and see if the video is still at 1 min mark or it refreshed.
Its a deal-breaker for me

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Can someone with the One make a video and post it up please.
Go to Youtube Desktop version, play the video to 1 min in, Press home, go into email app, Press home then go to task Switcher app, Click on Youtube and see if the video is still at 1 min mark or it refreshed.
Its a deal-breaker for me
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This would be interesting to know... Its not a deal breaker for me as memory management is fairly easy to modify with root. But it will still be annoying.

Root never fixed it on the one x for me despite tweaking
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tvp480 said:
Can someone with the One make a video and post it up please.
Go to Youtube Desktop version, play the video to 1 min in, Press home, go into email app, Press home then go to task Switcher app, Click on Youtube and see if the video is still at 1 min mark or it refreshed.
Its a deal-breaker for me
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Seems to work ok on the YouTube app (not desktop) although it had moved on to 1:03 when I got back
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Remove bloatware without root.

Is it possible, I don't necessarily want to flash or have to root.
Thanks.
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Slicka70 said:
Is it possible, I don't necessarily want to flash or have to root.
Thanks.
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You cant do that, removing system applications require root.

Depends what bloat you're talking about? There really isn't much on there to be honest.

Figured as much, I just remember when I got my One there was something like 4-5 gbs already taken up.
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You can't remove em without root, but you can disable many of them. I have about 15 apps that came pre installed that I won't use (mostly carrier crap, and stuff like Google Magazine, books, etc..)
Go to settings - > apps - > all, then select disable if it isn't grayed out...
A lot of the HTC apps can't be disabled, but whatever can is worth it
Pretty much like freezing.. You still have the apps taking space, but they won't run and will disappear from your app drawer!
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Slicka70 said:
Figured as much, I just remember when I got my One there was something like 4-5 gbs already taken up.
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i assume your talking about the 6.9ish gb that comes used up from when you first turned on the phone? that section is mostly a system partition used up by the android OS system. I'm not too versed in this but its pretty much neccessary. how large does that section have to be now that i'm not too sure. but every sense version i've ran on here custom 1.29 has pretty much the same size for that partition.

the best way without root is to disable the apps, as WolfDale7 mentioned.

Awesome, thanks for all the responses and help everybody!
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And if I have root, how can I uninstall them since titanium itself doesnt?