Hey guys/gals,
Thought i would share my most recent project with you all in the hopes of getting some advice and feedback and showing off my install
This will be an incremental build thread, i'll add to it as i get more pics and work my way through some issues.
I have installed a Google/Asus nexus 7 in the dash of my MY00 Subaru WRX. I trialled the optus mytab (AKA ZTE V9) in the dash but it didn't last more than a day since it was a piece of crap performance and audio-wise.
After spending a few months building a nano-itx double din touch screen pc to go in the dash, i changed my mind (for the millionth time) and decided to stick an android in there instead. The intel PC is now sitting in a box at home doing nothing...
The biggest trouble was finding a tablet that would fit in below the A/C controls nicely.. in the end, the N7 was about 3mm too big bit i broke out the dremel and made it fit!
Having trouble with the audio output though, it is horrible... it buzzes every time i touch the screen and it buzzes when wifi is active and it is just generally crap.
I would like to plug in a USB soundcard (DAC), something like the Fiio E10 but then i wouldn't be able to charge the tab while USB OTG is active.
I was hoping that the pogo pins on the side would allow charging whilst the USB dock connector could be used for OTG but it doesn't look like it will work since both the pogo pins and USB connector go to the same usb switch internally.
another edit: there seems to be a thread on the charging issues... i have also just found that my tab drains it's battery faster than it can charge it... I'll have to look into this further: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1791717
Parts list:
ASUS Google Nexus 7
4 Channel Nakimichi Amplifier
Single Channel Class-D 1000W Nakimichi Subwoofer amplifier
Four-Gauge power/ground
Gold plated Ground splitter and +12v Splitter/Circuit Breaker
Oxygen-Free Copper speaker cables (around 12 gauge)
(coming soon) 1.5 Farad Capacitor (to stop headlights dimming)
2 x Kenwood 1200W Subwoofers
4 x Focal 6" Splits
Good quality RCA cables
R/A 3.5mm headphone plug to 2x RCA 30cm cable
R/A Micro USB cable
gutted tomtom GPS charger
(coming soon) RCA volume level control (thanks for the idea ahavens17)
20mm wide metal strips
Hook and Loop velcro
Rubber trimming/edging
Update: Added some more pics showing my crude but effective way of holding the tablet in-place.
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To hold the tablet in place, i have used some metal straps cut to size that are screwed on using the screws that hold the top of the ash tray to the dash fascia. I stuck some velcro on to the metal straps and 2 small strips on the back of the tablet to dampen vibration and stop the tablet sliding around sideways. The velcro also stops the metal straps from marking the back of the tablet (not that it matters since it is hidden behind the dash)
You can see how it is done in the pictures above. Also, I am using right-angle micro USB and audio connectors so that they fit nicely in the dash
My blog of the install is here: Finniss.net
you may or may not find more updated info there as time goes on.
Dude, that's awesome! Good work!
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How easy is removal?
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Looking to do the same thing in my 2000 outback!
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I'm not talented enough to do this to my car. I just have to lay my tablet on the passenger seat.
I'm not that talented either but will just end up using a dremel and some Velcro or something lol
I have a huge double din slot so I won't have to do much cutting at all I will have to buy a cheap 40$ radio to put where my 6 disc CD changer in so I an use that as my AUX input as I am not buying an amp using stock speakers plus I would like to use FM just for sometimes you know lol and possible CDs
Now what would be super cool is to have your tablet start your car when you NFC bump it! Someone work on it!
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Now what would be super cool is to have your tablet start your car when you NFC bump it! Someone work on it!
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I'll get to work. what a cool idea! "get in the car, tap it with S3, brooom!"
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I'll get to work. what a cool idea! "get in the car, tap it with S3, brooom!"
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Might have issues with newer cars but my 2000 out back should have no issues with being "NFC Hotwired" lol
Edit check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9H54r6AUNA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Idk how but he has digital gauges on his tab
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Might have issues with newer cars but my 2000 out back should have no issues with being "NFC Hotwired" lol
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Heh yeah, mine has a brandt alarm system on it with a keypad which may pose a challenge but not something that i am totally unfamiliar with ;P
p.s. that sounds dodgy... I have spent many hours messing with that stupid alarm system to avoid having to tow the car back to subaru head office when the alarm system dies (which it frequently does, requiring replacement)
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Idk how but he has digital gauges on his tab
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Looks like he is using a bluetooth -> OBDII engine diagnostics cable and the android car home app. I've toyed with this before too and it's setup on my Nexus 7 now
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How easy is removal?
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It's not a slide in/out setup like i would love it to be but the plastic surround around it easily pulls off and the tab can then be removed.
When i get home, i'll get some more pics of how it is held in place, etc.
I'm thinking this but I'm gonna do it motorized
http://www.mp3car.com/android-table...-car-sliding-dock-using-hacked-dvd-drive.html
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Such an awesome stereo replacement!! awesome mod...might do that tomytruck...1st..i gotta buy the nexus7 lol
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Such an awesome stereo replacement!! awesome mod...might do that tomytruck...1st..i gotta buy the nexus7 lol
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I gotta buy it also
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This is actually why I bought the nexus 7. I have a car pc now with an 8" lcd but it fried itself a month ago. Just haven't gotten around to figuring out how to mount the Nexus 7. Bluetooth works great in my truck via my JVC deck. I stream from my phone all the time. I just wish there was a Google Now "car home". It'd be really nice to have voice control over everything with a decent looking interface.
You got me interested. Keep up the work. Can't wait to see the final setup.
I'm going to be leaving my stock radio intact, and using a ProClip mount. That way it will still look good and I'll still have a radio, and cd player.
Actually, the proclip for my car installs in a matter of seconds and disappears just as fast, so it will still retain the stock look.
I've already run an ipod2car to my changer inputs, then converted that so I can use it as an ipod cable, or an aux in. Then I plug in an htc stereoclip into the aux in for bluetooth. So it will be wireless to the factory deck. All of that stuff is hidden in the dash so all I have exposed is the little aux input and the bluetooth receiver.
I have to do it this way because my radio is in a piece that goes all the way across the dash, and isn't in a modular center console piece that I can pop out and work with. So If I put it "in" the dash.. it would be permanent and I'd have to do all the amps.
I'll post pictures once they make the mount for the nexus and I get it in. For now it just rides in the passenger seat.
The gauges are from an app called Torque, and it uses a bluetooth OBD2 reader that can be found on amazon. It's good for getting some basic numbers, and even allows logging. But there is a slight delay and well, it isn't much compared to my HP Tuners for my car but that's not saying much. it is definitely a must have for any car installations.
Idk I might not end up doing it I think my timing belt is more important along with getting my exhaust fixed....
Plus its an Asus Tablet and I had bad experiences with them with the prime....
Plus me being 17 and just getting my lisence idk if I should be distracted while driving
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I am interested in this as well.. I just put a cheap double din DVD player in my 01 forester and I would totally send it back and use that $200 to buy a nexus 7.. I just want to figure out how I could mount it and still be able to remove it with out taking the dash apart.. The other thing is what is the best way to get your audio to your speakers if you dont have a amp installed? I guess I could just get a small cheap amp if I needed to.
I'm running a Samsung galaxy tab in the dashboard of my Kia soul, 2010 sport model, for over a year now.
A lot of whine and stuff to the stereo, but then I got a 3.5 mm cable with a ground loop isolator on it. Did you get one of those? It solved my problems.
A couple members on my website, soulhamsters.com, are also using Nexus seven and other tablets in their dashboards.
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I thought I'd share this here, in case anyone is interested, and to not go off topic in this thread in the Q&A section that was interested in some detail of my build.
I couldn't find an aftermarket stereo that was as customizable, or had as many features as I'd like. My car is a 02 Mitsubishi Lancer which also is designed for a single DIN stereo, which limited my selection as well. I decided a while back that I wanted to attempt a tablet dash install, and when the Nexus 7 came out, I decided it was time to start on this project.This was my first attempt working with fiberglass, bondo, vinyl wrap, and I'm sure a few other aspects of the project I'm missing.
I failed to take pictures at all steps, as it was trial and error for awhile anyways. Here are some photos of some of the process and a parts list.
Also my Home Screens I created for this very purpose.
Parts List:
Nexus 7
4 Channel Amplifier
Four Gauge Power & Ground Wires
Speaker Wire Cable
2 RCA Plug Cable
3.5mm Stereo Male to 2RCA Male Cable
1/Female to 2/Male Y Connector Cable x 2
RCA Volume Level Control
AC Power Inverter
Car-Cigarette-Lighter-Extension Socket
Radio Wiring Harness Adapter
RadioTrim Piece
Fiberglass Resin
Fiberglass Cloth
Bondo
3M Brushed Black Metal Vinyl Wrap
Ground Loop Isolator (Optional)
Semi Finished Final Product
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RadioTrim Piece found in a junkyard that I cut the innards out of and filled with fiberglass and bondo. My car dash originally looks something like this.
So I had to create something that would house a 7" tablet, and also relocate my temperature controls.
Radio Trim Piece covered with Adhesive Promoter and paint.
Nexus 7 without Radio Trim. Backing is a piece of pegboard cut to fit in dash.
Radio Trim without tablet
Volume Control Knob
Cadence 4-Channel 1000 Watt Amp
Power Inverter
Amazing.. so I'm assuming you tether off a hot spot of some sort?
crachel said:
Amazing.. so I'm assuming you tether off a hot spot of some sort?
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Thank you, yep, I still have the original Evo 4G for my phone. I just have a tasker shortcut to toggle a Portable Hotpsot. It's only 3G but its worked pretty well so far
looks nice! the work with the fibre glass is very good!
the only issue I have is the use of an inverter, couldnt you have got a in car usb adapter? as this would mean 1 less power conversion.
Assuming you're leaving the Nexus 7 in the dash, aren't you worried about the heat?
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looks nice! the work with the fibre glass is very good!
the only issue I have is the use of an inverter, couldnt you have got a in car usb adapter? as this would mean 1 less power conversion.
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Thanks, I was just going to use a USB adapter, but I tried the 3 I already owned, and none of them would register it was charging. I bought a 4th that I thought would do the job, and had the same problem. I'm sure its possible with the right charger, and I may end up switching it out later. I just ended up being impatient and went with the inverter lol.
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Assuming you're leaving the Nexus 7 in the dash, aren't you worried about the heat?
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That is a concern. It's been in the car for maybe 24 hours now and no problems yet, but I plan on running out to my car to check it on my breaks and lunch tomorrow and probably throughout the work week to see how it holds up. If it becomes an issue I may need to take it out, if the car will be sitting for long stretches of time, or find another solution.
I saw a thread awhile back where someone else bought some sun shades to try and keep the temperature down inside the car. I guess we'll see how it holds up over the next few days.
Somebody put a nook color in a ...Wrangler I want to say? He didn't seem to have any trouble leaving it in there.
Yeah, here it is.
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Somebody put a nook color in a ...Wrangler I want to say? He didn't seem to have any trouble leaving it in there.
Yeah, here it is.
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I think his was on a dock. I know one guy had his in a smart car as well. Here.
Looks good though. I've thought about doing it in my car with my NC.
Nice job. Looks good.
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Looks cool man
mateorod said:
Somebody put a nook color in a ...Wrangler I want to say? He didn't seem to have any trouble leaving it in there.
Yeah, here it is.
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I think his was on a dock. I know one guy had his in a smart car as well. Here.
Looks good though. I've thought about doing it in my car with my NC.
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Thanks, good to hear others havent had overheating issues with similar installations.
I've been looking into this stuff for the last couple months now and I don't think I've seen either of those two builds, thanks.
I know this instructables build and too many random YouTube videos to list on different in-dash installs is what got me finally started in on this project.
You might want to consider some kind of retractable or removable cover. Couple of reasons. One...it can keep direct sunlight off the unit. That would probably be the biggest issue with this setup. Second, it would deter theft. Generally, a thief might not risk breaking into a car to guess what's behind curtain #1...if you know what I mean. However, seeing a full blown tablet in a home made setup (e.g. not built into the vehicle/easy to steal) might be too tempting for some crack head.
Mostly blocking indirect sunlight though...
had an acer a100 perm installed in my dash for several months even here in sunny florida i only got heat warnings when the sun was directly hitting the tablet, using a windshield shade when parked was sufficient to keep the heat warnings from coming on
i'm waiting for the pogo pin dock to be released before the nexus 7 gets a spot in the dashboard, i dont want a perm install again as i like using this tablet outside of the car too
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You might want to consider some kind of retractable or removable cover. Couple of reasons. One...it can keep direct sunlight off the unit. That would probably be the biggest issue with this setup. Second, it would deter theft. Generally, a thief might not risk breaking into a car to guess what's behind curtain #1...if you know what I mean. However, seeing a full blown tablet in a home made setup (e.g. not built into the vehicle/easy to steal) might be too tempting for some crack head.
Mostly blocking indirect sunlight though...
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had an acer a100 perm installed in my dash for several months even here in sunny florida i only got heat warnings when the sun was directly hitting the tablet, using a windshield shade when parked was sufficient to keep the heat warnings from coming on
i'm waiting for the pogo pin dock to be released before the nexus 7 gets a spot in the dashboard, i dont want a perm install again as i like using this tablet outside of the car too
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Thanks for the tips, and again its good to hear these reports of other tablet installs with minimal overheating issues. I checked on it today at lunch and it was hot to the touch, but functioning fine, i believe the temperature on the tablet read 134 F..... It was maybe 80 here outside in WI today. I think I'll definitely be investing in a windshield shade to be on the safe side at the very minimum.
I have a Transformer Prime for my other tablet and at this point I was going for a perma install look, although it isn't all too difficult to remove from the dash if needed.
ahavens17 said:
Thanks for the tips, and again its good to hear these reports of other tablet installs with minimal overheating issues. I checked on it today at lunch and it was hot to the touch, but functioning fine, i believe the temperature on the tablet read 134 F..... It was maybe 80 here outside in WI today. I think I'll definitely be investing in a windshield shade to be on the safe side at the very minimum.
I have a Transformer Prime for my other tablet and at this point I was going for a perma install look, although it isn't all too difficult to remove from the dash if needed.
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Oh AHeavens, you're a neighbor then. So you know we top the hundreds a few weeks every summer. So if a 80 degree day warms the tab to 135, imagine what one of our 105 days would do to it!
Not to mention our winters where it gets to -35 to -40!
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Nice install! i've never had the courage to break out the bondo!
I've installed the Nexus 7 in my WRX too. The trick to getting USB charging to work via a cig adapter is to put a USB hub inline. I pulled apart a tomtop GPS charger and wired it into the factory stereo wiring then plugged a USB hub into it and then the N7 (and my Galaxy S3) into the hub and they both charge nicely.
Having trouble with the audio output though, it is horrible... it buzzes every time i touch the screen and it buzzes when wifi is active and it is just generally crap.
I would like to plug in a USB soundcard (DAC), something like the Fiio E10 but then i wouldn't be able to charge the tab while USB OTG is active.
I was hoping that the pogo pins on the side would allow charging whilst the USB dock connector could be used for OTG but it doesn't look like it will work since both the pogo pins and USB connector go to the same usb switch internally.
I might put up a thread on my WRX N7 install.
edit: here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819175
another edit: there seems to be a thread on the charging issues... i have also just found that my tab drains it's battery faster than it can charge it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1791717
The ultimate car install: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0o1zkqEuec&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I put my nexus 7 in my dash for 3 hours one day it turned off on me... I assume because it was too hot.
For now I remove it when I get to work and leave it in the car when I am home. I have no issues in the garage. Only problem is the place I mounted mine is a perfect fit and no room for the usb charging cable till I modify the hood but I am hoping for the pogo dock soon.
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The ultimate car install: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0o1zkqEuec&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Nice!
How are they getting connected? Bluetooth, wifi tether, hotspot, ...?
when I get a car I would definitely spend the $250 bucks to have a really sexy media player in the dash
Finally got all my parts for my car mount, and got everything put together.
I was limited with what I could do as I don't want something hanging off my windshield, and I won't put any holes in my console, etc.
The goal was to have the car still be as stock looking as possible.
So I used magic. And I think this same mount, and idea could be used pretty much universally for most cars.
I've already got a bluetooth rig setup, so it's all wireless unless I wanted to charge.
The list of supplies goes like this.
1x -Padholdr social 7" tablet mount http://padholdr.com/ipad-and-tablet-holders/
1x -4' x2" package of industrial velcro
2x - 1/2"x1/2" cylinder neodymium magnets
2x - 1"x1/2"x1/8" bar neodymium magnets
some 3m double sided trim/mounting tape.
Let's get right into the pictures.
This is what I'm working with, not quite as easy as the center consoles that have a small trim piece that pops right off around the radio.
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Here's the padholdr, the Nexus fits in it nicely without any modification. They also include bigger spacers, so you can take the two halves apart, and make it hold a thicker device, such as a nexus in a case.
You'll see in this picture, the bottom of the padholdr is curved. The back piece will rest on the gray ledge on my dash, the curved nature could mean it would want to rock back and forth. And even more importantly, the padholdr hits my volume knob on the radio and it just overall sits higher then I'd like.
Time to bust out the dremel. Not only will the flat edge make it sit more stable, but it will also give the clearance needed for the volume knob.
Using the router attachment, and standard bit that came with the dremel. Great success. Went through the acrylic/plexiglass like butter.
Padholdr all put back together after the cut. As you can see, the front piece will block any of this from being seen, as it still has the curve in it.
If you look back at my dash, the 1/2 x 1/2" cylinder magnets went behind the dash with the 3m mounting tape. In between the radio and the air vents, Just below center on those vertical columns. Once the dash was all back together, you can't even tell they are there. This is the stock look I was going for. Magnets don't seem to have any effect on the radio, etc.
Here is the padholdr, after applying the soft side of the velcro. To the cut I had made previously, and the back of the padholdr where it may come in contact with the dash. Then the 1x1/2x1/8" bar magnets were attached to the padholdr using the same 3m mounting tape, and then covered with the velcro as well. So they wont leave any marks from contact with the dash.
Lets see what we've got. Nice! Everything is clearing the radio, and it just barely sticks out at all. Lookin good.
Now, will this thing hold with the extra weight of the tablet?
The answer seems to be yes, yes it will!
Other angles.
Went for a cruise last night and it didn't move a hair. Used it for the first time for real this morning on the way to work, solid.
There are probably some concerns about the magnets. I had the tablet up and running, and playing a song while putting it into the padholdr. It doesnt turn the screen off, doesnt distort the speaker. I haven't found any ill effects. I even calibrated the compass with it in the padholdr and the compass was still working.
This same type of mount could be applied to virtually any vehicle.. As long as there's a trim piece around the radio that you can gain access to. Very happy with it so far.
I could probably do a video of it in action if people want it.
This morning on the way to work I was jammin out, while putting my gauges from torque up, and then when i hit traffic went to maps and figured out where the traffic jam was.. Such a badass tool to have in the car.
This is some fine crafting! Maybe I'll do something similar when I receive mine.
That Is pretty nice if I do say so myself. I plan on integrating mine into my car as my source of entertainment as well. I'm not keeping my radio though.
Question ... do u use ur fone for internet?
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cybervyrus8587 said:
That Is pretty nice if I do say so myself. I plan on integrating mine into my car as my source of entertainment as well. I'm not keeping my radio though.
Question ... do u use ur fone for internet?
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Yep. I've got an EVO LTE on sprint so I just crank the hotspot on there. I've got an ubuntu server setup at my house and I run a subsonic server off of that. So all that coupled with the subsonic app on the nexus means, instant access to 500gb of my music and movies while I'm movin down the road.
I also plan on putting a couple nfc tags in hidden locations, one to turn the hotspot on for my evo. And then basically an enter and exit for the nexus. The enter would set the screen to never turn off, and bluetooth and volume. While the exit tag would put it all back where it was.
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Yep. I've got an EVO LTE on sprint so I just crank the hotspot on there. I've got an ubuntu server setup at my house and I run a subsonic server off of that. So all that coupled with the subsonic app on the nexus means, instant access to 500gb of my music and movies while I'm movin down the road.
I also plan on putting a couple nfc tags in hidden locations, one to turn the hotspot on for my evo. And then basically an enter and exit for the nexus. The enter would set the screen to never turn off, and bluetooth and volume. While the exit tag would put it all back where it was.
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U wouldn't happen to live in TX would u? I only ask cuz I would love to get some pointers especially with those hidden nfc chips. Also.. r u worried at all the Sprint will find out ur tethering?
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That looks great! I'm going to try this with a Tab 2 7.0 in my Fusion.
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I am extremely curious to know how you set up your car to do bluetooth audio.
What do you use for FM radio? Have you found a way to control it from the 7? Unfortunately I think the only solution is to use a data streaming service like tunein radio.
This is an awesome idea! I definitely need to look into something like this.. A video would be nice, if you wouldn't mind.
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I am extremely curious to know how you set up your car to do bluetooth audio.
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Haha I see what you mean..
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For the bluetooth audio to the stock radio.. It's a combination of things. And I'll get some pictures or video later.
First, I had an iPod2car.
Something like this, other companies make them now as well
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-pseW37dLoOC/p_541PXDP2/Peripheral-iPod2car-iPod-Adapter.html
This charges an ipod, and allows the seek on the factory radio, to actually seek on the ipod. It plugs into the factory cd changer input that was in my trunk. Didn't have a cd changer, but they run the cable on all the cars, whether they had it or not.
So on my factory radio I just have to choose the cd changer as the source, instead of fm or cd. And its a wired connection, not a transmitter= no static
i sold my iPod a long time ago though. So this cable was really of no use to me anymore.
That's when i picked up an adapter that converts the male ipod cable, to an auxillary input.
http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockBoss.html Mine had a female stereo jack on it though. Looks like they've just changed it slightly through the years.
I made this into a nice panel, so that I can still use the ipod cord, or plug the ipod cord into the panel which is in my cubby hole in the center console, in which then it acts as the universal input instead.
(this is what i may take some pictures of.)
The aux input then exits from the center console on the passenger side, right at the floor. Out of sight, out of mind.
Then I use the HTC Stereoclip to receive the bluetooth audio as I also have an evo lte.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-car-stereoclip-audio-bridge-a100.html
Basically. Hop in car, turn on hotspot, turn on bluetooth adaptor. put nexus in the padholdr and put it in place, turn on bluetooth. It automatically pairs and connects to the stereoclip. Then automatically opens the car home ultra app and I'm off.
I'll make a video of how it all works.
Buick should def think about replacing that crappy stereo with a touchscreen
They have of course in the new Regals.
Unfortunately that new regal just cant put out the same kinda power to the wheels that this 14 year old with 200,000 miles can.
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They have of course in the new Regals.
Unfortunately that new regal just cant put out the same kinda power to the wheels that this 14 year old with 200,000 miles can.
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Man I completely agree!!! Love the old regals
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Nice setup. I also have a regal and made a phone mount a whole back. I was wondering about your input. I've been looking for something like that for years. Currently I use a fm transmitter / hands free kit, but the quality sucks. Do all regal have that input, I don't think mine does?
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Could someone explain the magnets to me? Confused, is it attached to the dash with velcro or magnets? ....or both?
Could I also ask how big the Padholdr is exactly? I especially want to know how long the entire unit is (for a Nexus 7 fit) and how thick the right and left "legs" are. (these are the parts I'll be attaching to my dash).
Thanks!
Great post! I am gonna try it
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Nice work :good: Can you tell me what App your using as an interface as the chunky buttons look far better and easier to use than the stock media controls.
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Could someone explain the magnets to me? Confused, is it attached to the dash with velcro or magnets? ....or both?
Could I also ask how big the Padholdr is exactly? I especially want to know how long the entire unit is (for a Nexus 7 fit) and how thick the right and left "legs" are. (these are the parts I'll be attaching to my dash).
Thanks!
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It just sticks there via magnets. The velcro, is just stuck on over the magnet, so there aren't any hard surfaces to scratch the dash. It's just padding.
The back piece on the bottom of the mount that I cut rests on the ledge holding some of the weight, and the magnets then hold it firmly in place.
So there are the bar magnets on the back of the padhldr, and then I took apart the dash, and there are slightly bigger cylinder magnets on either side of the radio behind the dash trim. So if the holder isn't in use, its totally stock. I don't believe in sticking anything to the dash which is why I came up with this solution in the first place.
-As for the padholdr dimensions, I can get more detail later, but I'd say the sides are about an inch wide at the thickest section on the bottom. And again, you can use different spacers that they supply for different thicknesses of tablets, or if you had the nexus in a case like the moko slim-fit.
And an update after using this for a few months now. Always been perfect. Nexus has never budged or gone flying off on me. Still working great.
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Nice work :good: Can you tell me what App your using as an interface as the chunky buttons look far better and easier to use than the stock media controls.
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That is CarHome Ultra. and with more recent updates you can alter the appearance a little more and it looks even better. Definitely recommend.
nice setup been thinking of doing something similar.
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I have succesfully modded a Note cardock to work on my Note II. I had to put a small piece of Velcro to use as a shim at the bottom, and grind the bottom corners to allow the phone to go further down so it could make contact with the charging port. Works great. Got the dock off Amazon for $30
Edit: 2/6/13
I have been using this mod for a while now but have not been completely satisfied with it. Especially with the way that the micro usb jack was seating into the phone. so I decided to try and solve that issue which solved a couple of other issues... I will explain.
1.Remove the screws from the back of the sliding bottom from the back as shown
2.Then take an exacto knife and gently slide it in the edge and twist opening the tabs as well as the bottom.
3.Remove the 4 screws holding the module board in place and remove board.
4.Shave off the thickness of the circuit board from the standoffs that the board mounts on. if you take a little extra on the tow closest to the front it will tip the jack a bit so you don't need the Velcro shim any longer.
5.Remove the four screws that hold the slider to the mount
6.Take a ratt tailed file and thin out the bottom of the cradle.
7.Reassemble
You now will find that each and every time you insert it into the cradle it will go into your favorite docking program. Mine is CarHome Ultra. You also will have audio coming from the 1/8" jack on the back.
Here is a video link of it in action... http://db.tt/GV1RJwY3
From what I can tell the micro usb jack was not getting fully into the phone causing it to not work as designed. I will also mention that I am on Perseus alpha32 kernel which has been modded to work with docking stations on JB.
I hope you can appreciate this tutorial because I did take the time to un assemble my dock for you just to put these pics online
Hit Thanks if you Like...
Hello... any chance you could post a picture showing your Note II in the modded Mount?
Thanks!
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iondokk said:
I have succesfully modded a Note cardock to work on my Note II. I had to put a small piece of Velcro to use as a shim at the bottom, and grind the bottom corners to allow the phone to go further down so it could make contact with the charging port. Works great. Got the dock off Amazon for $30
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images please!
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I will post pics tonight of the phone in the holder...
Interesting. I thought all accessories were interchangeable. Guess that's not true.
Is the dock's audio output connector working for you? Are you using the US version of the Note II?
Thanks
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Is the dock's audio output connector working for you? Are you using the US version of the Note II?
Thanks
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I'll have to check in the morning.
With the Note II being narrower than the original Note, how snug is the Note II when in place in the modified dock?
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Interesting. I thought all accessories were interchangeable. Guess that's not true.
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They're not the same size, so some modifications will be necessary.
Looks very good but it doesnt seem safe, looks like with couple bumps on the road the phone will drop.
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I'll have to check in the morning.
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Did you have a chance to check?
No No No
I love a good hack that saves me money but to answer everyone's question, this is NOT a solid solution!!! I have a Note 1 and a Note 1 Samsung Card Dock.
First, getting it in and out of the dock is not easy. You have to line it up just right. Sure a little filing will help with that, but then you loose a little grip. So in the end the only thing holding the phone is the top tension and the tension you apply on the USB plug via the Velcro Shim.
Last of all, I could not get the Audio over USB to work. I did not see anyway to get the GNII to see that it had been placed in a car dock. This might require an additional download but I found nothing on Playstore that supported my phone.
BTW: I tested on the International Version.
Would love to agree with this hack, but just can't
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So after using this for a few days now I will say the phone fits in just fine I drive 30 miles day and have not had a problem with the phone falling out.
In fact it fits very tight, although I did a little filing on the top tabs. It fits tight enough that you can hear it snap in. It is a great solution and the above poster is stating an opinion. It will not read the phone as being docked because this phone is not capable of that feature. There are topics on this. I do use car ultra home which solves this solution for me. It is ten times better than a universal holder. I will work on a video for you this weekend.
Haven't had a second phone to do the video with yet but been several weeks and I still use it everyday.
The speaker output does work. You have to turn it on in settings/accessories.
meir87 said:
Is the dock's audio output connector working for you? Are you using the US version of the Note II?
Thanks
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Audio out confirmed working US version Sprint...
Audio Out...not working for me.
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Audio out confirmed working US version Sprint...
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I just purchased one of the Note I docks off e-Bay for $15. I made the modification and it charges just fine...but I'm not getting any audio out through the jack on the back of the dock. I've changed the setting in accessories to "Use external speakers when device is docked"...but I don't get any sound. Is there anything else I need to do? I'm replacing my Galaxy SII (same style dock) and I really want to be able to feed Pandora and Google music directly to the aux input on my car stereo.... just as I did with the SII.
Thanks!
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I just purchased one of the Note I docks off e-Bay for $15. I made the modification and it charges just fine...but I'm not getting any audio out through the jack on the back of the dock. I've changed the setting in accessories to "Use external speakers when device is docked"...but I don't get any sound. Is there anything else I need to do? I'm replacing my Galaxy SII (same style dock) and I really want to be able to feed Pandora and Google music directly to the aux input on my car stereo.... just as I did with the SII.
Thanks!
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Same for me, please respond when you get the chance...
I bought a cradle off of Amazon
as well... paid $40.00 for it...
Problem solved
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Same for me, please respond when you get the chance...
I bought a cradle off of Amazon
as well... paid $40.00 for it...
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I was not able to get the AUX out to work with the car dock. However, I was able to come up with what has turned out to be an even better solution. I'm still using the car dock (original Note dock) for power.
However, I purchased an item from eBay. (just do a search for "Wireless Bluetooth Audio Music Receiver 3.5mm Dongle For Cell Phone MP3 MP4 PC"). This unit is under $10!
With this item...I simply connected via bluetooth from the phone...then connected this unit to the AUX input for my car stereo and works great...and sounds great.
Do you think a Note 2 with a Flip-cover will fit this solution?
Looks like it does, but I'm not sure.
really hope to find a car holder that will fit the Note 2 with a Flip-cover.
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No, you will need to remove the flip cover.
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I've narrowed it down to these 3
http://www.ibolt.co/ibxs-33603
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004G1L52Q
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007BCJKQA
The first one looks optimal because of that cord that connects to only one side of the phone and can connect to the car charger and the aux. ( shows around 1:30 of the video )
Tried googling for a cord like that but couldn't find any... if there are cords like that sold separately I may consider the cd one more.
Please let me know your opinions and if there are any cords like that.
Ibolt had a rocky start with their presale...but if they get their **** together, I would recommend their product.
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
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Ibolt had a rocky start with their presale...but if they get their **** together, I would recommend their product.
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
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what happened to them? what did they do wrong
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910428
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See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910428
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yeah i read a couple pages already.
i guess they are looking to upgrade a new version?
so i should wait till their next product comes out?
I have the ibolt dock and am hapoy with it now that they shipped the charging arm. What I like is that it will hold other phone in the future not just the note2
Flexia32 said:
I have the ibolt dock and am hapoy with it now that they shipped the charging arm. What I like is that it will hold other phone in the future not just the note2
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pretty sure most of these other ones hold most phones as well.
i just kinda have a thing for it blocking my view, rather it be on the cd slot but i like the cord where it can connect to charge and aux from only 1 plug on the phone
was wondering if there are any cords like that sold separately
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The first one looks optimal because of that cord that connects to only one side of the phone and can connect to the car charger and the aux. ( shows around 1:30 of the video )
Tried googling for a cord like that but couldn't find any... if there are cords like that sold separately I may consider the cd one more.
Please let me know your opinions and if there are any cords like that.
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ibolt are supposedly going to sell the chord separately, though I don't know when they open to do so. I bought the official s3 dock and will be buying that ibolt cable once it's available.
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http://www.clingobyallsop.eu/car-mounts/universal-car-phone-mount
I just buy this car mount and is the best i can find untill now...i like because u only grip to the phone back...
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lucian75 said:
http://www.clingobyallsop.eu/car-mounts/universal-car-phone-mount
I just buy this car mount and is the best i can find untill now...i like because u only grip to the phone back...
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I keep hearing reviews that the cling part gets gummy in the heat. I stayed away from that one since I'm in Florida and it gets pretty hot here most of the year.
I too am on the hunt for the perfect car mount... I'm leaning towards the mountek just because I'm tired of the suction cup models not sticking to the dash, and the vent models don't work for me.
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I keep hearing reviews that the cling part gets gummy in the heat. I stayed away from that one since I'm in Florida and it gets pretty hot here most of the year.
I too am on the hunt for the perfect car mount... I'm leaning towards the mountek just because I'm tired of the suction cup models not sticking to the dash, and the vent models don't work for me.
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You'd be correct sir. When the gummy part heats up from being in the sun for a while (or from dust collecting), your phone will shoot off the minute you break hard.
My old HTC One X took a few tumbles from a similar gum-based mount. If you're using in a stationary function, say on a desk or wall near a desk, it'd probably be ok.
How hard do you want to work for it and how much do you care what it looks like?
I butchered a HTC HD2 dock to work. It looks good (subjective of course but there's almost no clips and wires and latches and junk, very minimal) and it's secure (it is suction cup, it's just been a good working suction cup for me) includes usb charging, one handed not a ugly little cable hanging off to the side.
But it was kind of a ***** flipping the usb port over and still having it point at the right angle and not bugger up the wire connecting to it. But all in all took less than two hours and I love it every minute I'm in the car, so, worth it.
ProClip makes an even more convenient mount as far as using it. Like a slot you drop the phone in, no aiming, requires no attention at all. Usb charging. Very stable. But ugly. In my truck it would be fine but in my nice car I just don't want to look at something so blocky and mechanical if I can avoid it. It's not the worst by far in that respect but I just like better if it's possible. Also it's $100 in two parts. If it looked better I'd have no problem with that. The HD2 mount was 70 I think but it served the entire lifespan of my og evo and now works for my gn2 so that 70 is pretty good by now.
The new ibolt one? Blech. Well it looks a little better than most commodity universal mounts. The aluminum rails are at least cooler than the usual all black plastic. But to me it's only a slight improvement. It's still a generic crappola universal gps/phone clamp like all the rest. It's one unique feature is the special usb cable that will trigger smart dock mode. But thanks to Samsung there is no distinct car mode detection, just smart dock mode. So if you assign that to a car home app, you get the car home everywhere i cluding your desk and nightstand. We can use nfc tags and get a better result than that with no special cable. So it's back to being a completely generic, ugly, inconvenient, holder.
The next best option I've seen is this universal one that has springloaded grabber arms, but they have it set up for one handed operation. The arms are open when the dock is empty. When you put the phone in it presses a button that releases the arms to close on the phone. It's surprisingly secure. I shook the mount all around trying to shake the phone free.l and it didn't budge. When the arms close, two buttons pop out at the same time opposite each arm, on oposite sides of the phone. To release the phone you just grab the phone, and your thumb & forefinger are already right there on those two buttons. Press the buttons together and that opens the arms. So you are releasing the phone and grabbing the phone in the same motion. It works quite well. No usb built in but the port is exposed to use your own cable. Looks are fair. They are are thin and unobtrusive compared to many and there's only two arms on the sides and two resting pegs on the bottom. You could hack those rests right off and it would work exactly as well and look significantly neater. Suction cup base. It's called Smart Tap.
Another option is someone Someone on xda here came up with a pretty clean hack of the original note mount. No filing, just a little heat gun softening.
I never heard of Mountek so thanks for the clue I'll check it out.
There is really no "good" solution for the this phone yet.
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I ordered one the "iMagnet Cradle-less Magnetic Mount with Quick-snap Technology". It should be here tomorrow. I'd post a link, but I haven't gotten enough posts in to get that ability, even though my account is pretty old.
It's one of the magnetic mounts. You stick a metal disk on your phone/case and bam. Has good reviews, so I thought i'd give it a try.
lucian75 said:
http://www.clingobyallsop.eu/car-mounts/universal-car-phone-mount
I just buy this car mount and is the best i can find untill now...i like because u only grip to the phone back...
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yeah i saw a couple bad reviews on that as well so it kinda turned me off, i'd rather get something that's more secure.
i really like the ibolt cable, not a big fan of suction cups either so the mountek looks optimal if only i could get that cable separate i might just end up getting ibolt because of the cable
you guys have given some really good insight,i will check out the hd2 as well and see if i could get that to work haha.
about the smart dock mode, i don't have any other dock elsewhere so that's not an issue for me, but it doesn't go into dock mode if i plug in usb to connect to the computer or plug it into my charger does it?
I just got the iOtti mount for mine. I LOVE it!
Here's my "review": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982558&page=3
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I just got the iOtti mount for mine. I LOVE it!
Here's my "review": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982558&page=3
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Not sure where you are located, but I guess we are far away from summertime to test it out if it stays stuck to the surface? I was looking at this case as well, until read in another forum about people having issues with a sticky part of the suction cup especially when it gets hot outside. Maybe it was a defective batch or whatever. That kind of put me away from buying it, plus I was waiting for Arkon to release their slim grip ultra mount with a sticky suction cup I actually have it coming my way next week and will review it once I get it. But I don't think it has any release buttons, etc. like their other grip mount I had for my DX. I guess I'm still on the fence until I get it and test it out. But I'm definitely glad iOttie is working out for you! I just wish they would drop "i" cause I'm sure a lot of android people buying their mounts as well lol!!!
The one from iOttie on amazon is worth every penny it works too well lol make sure where you it is where you want it cause it sticks like rubber cement!
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The one from iOttie on amazon is worth every penny it works too well lol make sure where you it is where you want it cause it sticks like rubber cement!
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So once you release a suction cup latch you have to pry it off the dash board with a butter knife? Will it take off dashboard textured layer or so? Not sure if you were kidding or serious about it sticking like cement
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So once you release a suction cup latch you have to pry it off the dash board with a butter knife? Will it take off dashboard textured layer or so? Not sure if you were kidding or serious about it sticking like cement
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He is not kidding. Read the Amazon reviews. This thing sticks to anything and the quick release is a GOD sent. It's SO easy to take the phone in and out of the mount, and once you put it in the mount it isn't going any where. Lots of adjustable settings. I LOVE it.
On my previous mounts I didn't even use them that often (only when I needed GPS), but this thing is so easy to take in/out that I do it every time I drive the car. It is worth every penny for sure!
I used my 50% off at Samsung.com and got the universal there. Loving it.
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECS-K200BEGSTA
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I have a Sprint Note 2 and would like to mount in in my Dodge Dakota Quad cab so i can record while i drive, is there a mount that can do that? I just want to record a few short videos and would rather not have a tripod in the back, and moves too much when the truck "drifts and slides" when i want it too. Thanks all, ps hopefully under $40 ish?
Ask russia... they have lots of dashcams lol. SRT Dodge?
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Ask russia... they have lots of dashcams lol. SRT Dodge?
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No its not a SRT i wish i had one, it was a factory v6 truck but since i bought it i swapped a 360 ci with aluminum heads, ported intake and headers. New tune for 93 octane, also the trans has a trans go shift kit, rear end was rebuilt with 3.55 gears and a eaton locker. Lets just say leaving my high school i like to go fast what student wouldnt leave school when the bell rings and leave a few black marks? Haha i miss those days.
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No its not a SRT i wish i had one, it was a factory v6 truck but since i bought it i swapped a 360 ci with aluminum heads, ported intake and headers. New tune for 93 octane, also the trans has a trans go shift kit, rear end was rebuilt with 3.55 gears and a eaton locker. Lets just say leaving my high school i like to go fast what student wouldnt leave school when the bell rings and leave a few black marks? Haha i miss those days.
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Nice. I just got my first car... I got the Porsche Cayyene Sport. It was my moms but she is using her new Range Rover. Ive only driven it to school and a shop which are all down the road.
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This should work for you:
http://www.arkon.com/megagrip/megagrip-sticky-dash-mount.html
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$20 + shipping from arkon.com, you might be able to find it cheaper on Amazon.
See the Iottie thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982558
I picked one up and it's awesome for the Note2. The suction cup is the strongest one I've ever seen and I don't think it'll ever fall off.
I just got am Arkon from EBay.
Mounts right onto the windshield and holds my phone like a boss.
Have the auxiliary cable hooked up. Plays all my music, can hear calls over my car speakers, use s voice to function everything hands free.
All with the phone being directly to the right of my eye vision.
Great mount. I've had 4 others and the Arkon is the best.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=400289431589
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I've used the Arkon ones before and before getting the Note2, I was using one, but that one blocks the camera, so if you wanted to use a dash cam program, it wouldn't work.
Got the IBolt and works great. There is a included usb plug which is semi flexible that sits right where it needs to be plugged in which automatically puts the phone in dock mode. They say they are sending out a replacement plug for free which will split and include audio out and usb charging. You can record video there is nothing blocking the camera. It can be used with a case.
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If you're recording you might like Torque app. Can do pretty cool screen overlays with speed etc. You can even link it to a cheap odb2 adapter to get engine data overlays
That looks nice.
I bought a Lottie and you are right the suction cup will not let go, trust me i tried ( was wet and slightly drifted a off ramp XD, but wasnt recording ) I have the Torque app and use it sometimes, i love it but i have a little box thing, dont remember the name, but it tell me my trans temp, volts, etc anything i love it. Thanks for the replys everyone!
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I bought a Lottie and you are right the suction cup will not let go, trust me i tried ( was wet and slightly drifted a off ramp XD, but wasnt recording ) I have the Torque app and use it sometimes, i love it but i have a little box thing, dont remember the name, but it tell me my trans temp, volts, etc anything i love it. Thanks for the replys everyone!
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"little box thing" -> ELM 327 OBD2 bluetoth scan tool I got that along with Torque Pro. Hardly use it, but still think it's an awesome tool to get every bit of info about your car!
Should be getting iOttie sometime next week, and will review it. Once that review is done and posted, I will do face-off comparison between Arkon, Exogear, and iOttie - all three have similar mounts with gel-base suction cup that kicks arse, while phone holder part is different.
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i bought a 5 dollar holder from ebay, and 5 dollar worth of aluminum from home depot. used jb weld and spray paint.
I just ordered this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Mount-H...A%2BFICS%2BUFI&otn=21&pmod=300857965016&ps=54
I'll report back on how well it works when I get it but, for $5.99, I figured I'd take a chance.
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Nice. I just got my first car... I got the Porsche Cayyene Sport. It was my moms but she is using her new Range Rover. Ive only driven it to school and a shop which are all down the road.
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Wow. My first car was a Geo Metro.... :laugh:
I ordered a 17 dollar Arkon.
Mounts directly to my windshield, holds this giant phone like a champ.
Got the AV hookes up, can hear phone calls, gps, music all through the car speakers.
Which is also my first car, a 2007 Chevy Cobalt SS.
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barry99705 said:
Wow. My first car was a Geo Metro.... :laugh:
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'82 Chevette haha. So mine was older but you still got me beat for honest humble beginnings. A Chevette has *4* cylinders! Hehehe
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I have reviewed Arkon and Exogear already, but after I just got iOttie - that one is clearly a winner for my needs. All three have a great gel base suction cup, but only iOttie offers true one hand operation. Arkon's advantage that it can hold either Note 2 or Nexus 7 (7" tablet). Exogear can hold any phone in width up to Note 2, more universal and less obstructive if you want to use it as dash camera. So each one has it's own advantages and disadvantages (I wish iOttie would use universal ball joint connection). But since my highest priority is one hand operation - IOttie wins in that department. I will post a detailed review and will probably make another face-off comparison thread between all 3.
KEYofR said:
'82 Chevette haha. So mine was older but you still got me beat for honest humble beginnings. A Chevette has *4* cylinders! Hehehe
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Mine only had 3!!! It even had a "turbo boost" button, most people call it the AC button though. :laugh: Now we're rocking a 2004 Honda Element that's driven from Kenai Alaska to Cocoa Beach Florida, and a 2012 Nissan Juke. Huuuuge upgrades! :good:
vectron said:
All three have a great gel base suction cup, but only iOttie offers true one hand operation.
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Careful with the sticky suction cups! I wanted to move mine from one car to another and the sticky jell crap stretched and tore on me. It won't stick to anything now. :crying: I'll stick with my Ram Mount equipment from now on. It costs a little more, but worth it in my opinion.