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is it really reliable?

Hi,
I know that i am asking this in a Nook forum, but i'll ask as XDA users are always very true on their opinions.
I went some pages back of the forum, and i realised that many people have problems with the Nook.
So let's say a very good friend is interested in buying the Nook. Would you reccomend it to them?
Thanks
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All the problems I've had with the Nook are related to custom roms and such, and even then, if you stick with, say, CM7 stable, the only real problem is the battery life since it doesn't fully sleep.
I don't think the stock rom really has many issues.

EnTg888 said:
All the problems I've had with the Nook are related to custom roms and such, and even then, if you stick with, say, CM7 stable, the only real problem is the battery life since it doesn't fully sleep.
I don't think the stock rom really has many issues.
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What he said... Custom roms are really the only place software errors pop up, even then... Each rom's creator is working each to day to improve it.
If you stay on stock, I doubt you'll have any problems.
Would I recommend it to a friend? Sure, but most of them are apple fanboys and wouldn't even give it a chance.

I would recommend the nook without hesitation. The problems most people seem to encounter are with b&n's quality control in regards to things like lcd bleed and dead pixels. I was fortunate enough to get a good one on my first go, but some people had to return it a few times before they got a decent one. Beyond that, I think as long as one reads before jumping into something like rooting and flashing roms, the nook gives you one heck of a bang for your buck.
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I had absolutely no problems with something as simple as rooted stock, though I wasn't entirely happy with the B&N interface when it wasn't the reason why I bought the Nook. Yes, you'll probably spend a few hours (4-8) just learning what's going on and all the terminology, trolling around on the forums and getting the hang of things...
But honestly if you stick with a popular custom ROM like Phiremod, a CM7 Nook is just as stable as the real thing. The biggest downside right now is the battery drain while sleeping. And even that is not too big a deal; it's better than your phone for sure, and you just gotta charge it once every two days. So it doesn't have the 15+ day stand-by that the iPad would, whatever.

Gin1212 said:
Would I recommend it to a friend? Sure, but most of them are apple fanboys and wouldn't even give it a chance.
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sounds like you need better friends
Also, I would and do recommend it to my friends.

Assuming you want to either leave it stock or are ok with tinkering and use CM7 then yes. If you are expecting an ipad then get an ipad so we don't get another "why doesn't this work like an ipad thread."

I have a rooted Motorola Milestone, and i was using for several months CM roms, but for the last 2 months i am in MIUI...
Thus i dont think i will have many problems with modding it.
How long does it need to power on? In order to understand if is worth shutting it down, instead of standby...
I thought that CM, fixed the issue with devices not sleeping? At the beginning the solution was to restart the phone after a charge...
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It takes 1-2 minutes for my cm7 nook to go from off to booted and usable. The sleep issue isjust a nook problem, cm7 sleeps fine on everything else. I loose about 20- 25% of the battery over 12 hours or so when I'm not using the nook. For me, that's not a big deal.
The only problem I have ever noticed with my nook is wifi disconnect when the screen has been off for a long time. All I have to do is go into wifi settings(I have a shortcut on my home) and it reconnects to the network. Although after flashing cm7 nightly 54 and the latest 4/23 test kernal I don't think I've had it disconnect.
Nook setup:
CM7 nightly 54
dalgrins OC 4/23 test kernel @ 1.3 ghz with interactive governer
Mad-murdocks honeycomb theme
I absolutely love my nook! Very fast and very responsive.

Ok great thanks.
How long is its battery life with moderate use with CM7?
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I consider myself a heavy user and mine lasts 1 1/2-2 days before recharging.

Fekish said:
Ok great thanks.
How long is its battery life with moderate use with CM7?
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it will last probably a day and a half, maybe longer.

4-5 hours of use with cm7, 5-6 with stock rooted
(hours of use are total time using it not counting breaks in between use periods)

NewZJ said:
4-5 hours of use with cm7, 5-6 with stock rooted
(hours of use are total time using it not counting breaks in between use periods)
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This is pretty close if you're playing games all day... The only difference in this case with CM7 and Stock is the overclock kernel, otherwise you should get the same battery life.
Keep in mind turning things like wifi and lowering the display can increase battery life.
I usually get through an 8-9 hour day easily with moderate use (books, games, web browsing, manga, no video though).

If you're using it for Reading and surfing the Web nonstop, I've gotten close to 7 hours on CM7(more with WiFi off) and close to 8 on the Clean Froyo ROM(which sleeps properly). I don't have my Kernal OverClocked.
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Thanks guys,
a friend recommended the Dropad A8 and Herotab C8, and now i am considering them instead of the Nook...
It would be around 70$ cheaper

Fekish said:
Thanks guys,
a friend recommended the Dropad A8 and Herotab C8, and now i am considering them instead of the Nook...
It would be around 70$ cheaper
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I don't know anything about those tabs so I can't say anything negative or positive about them. However, the only thing that I would tell you to look out for is to see how much dev. support those two have. Paying slightly more for a heavily developer supported device (as the NC is) is an extremely wise investment.

I get a full day of use on mine. Love my nook. the geek factor of running cm7 on a nook is worth it to me lol. bluetooth kinda blows sometimes but its getting better as devs beast on it. also charging must be done with the stock charger "to reach full charging speed" due to some voltage change on original cord to allow more output. but for transferring any cord works great. And the devs are some of the best!

Drachen808 said:
I don't know anything about those tabs so I can't say anything negative or positive about them. However, the only thing that I would tell you to look out for is to see how much dev. support those two have. Paying slightly more for a heavily developer supported device (as the NC is) is an extremely wise investment.
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Truth. I would avoid anything that does not have a project like CM aimed at it. It does not have to be CM but it should be at least as active.

Two points:
1) The Nook will charge with other chargers and a standard cable jsut at 1/4 the speed as charging from an unknown source which is governed at 500ma while the stock charger is 2000ma.
2) Before buying either of the other tabs, check their screen resolution. I don't know much about them but the screen is the expensive part and what makes the Nook the best deal out there.
I regularly recommend my NC to anyone that will listen. Just converted a potential ixxx customer today as he likes to play with his toys in ways other than intended by the manufacturer. As stated above the dev support for the NC is spectacular.

New Rom

I am getting a little tired of the energy roms and Jackos roms draining the battery....i'm not looking for a fix, I want to know if a chef will cook up a rom that is similar to Chadsters e2 roms. I want something stable and very close to stock with task manager, youtube, google maps, etc. I'm really wanting this type of rom but all similar roms have been deleted. Thank You to anyone that helps out.

Try WCX 21916 w/Arcsoft. It's what you are searching for.

I want the htc messaging, idk why, I just really like it. I want it close to the stock 2.10 version with all the goodies.

Hi redwolf... The WC roms do have an HTC messaging version. They all work great, I'm a fan. Definately give one a go. You just need to decide 219XX (classic buttons) or 23XXX (bottom buttons). Both have HTC Messaging options. All the WC roms are fast, and have very good battery life.

Jackos rom drains your battery? Maybe your battery is bad my battery lasts like 2 days with Jackos rom

Battery Drain
No, I have two batteries. One was the original that was fine and another I got from a warranty exchange. I used Chadsters roms for a long time and had to switch to energy and/or Jackos, and my battery last at a max of about 11 hours. With chadsters, it would go for like 3 days without dying. Thank you for the advice and I will give the WC roms a try. Again, Thanks!!

Go try WC's roms. I've tried lots of stuff and I think they are the best for stabilty and speed. Don't expect bling, but expect a stock-like ROM that is better in every way. See my signature.
(and btw, there is an HTC messaging version)
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Sry, looks like from your last post that you are already on your way to trying a WC rom...

People seriously get days out of their batteries on these phones? I have two 2400 mh batteries that I swap in the morning and afternoon....it's not rom specific because I did the same thing with the stock rom...I figure it's a device usage issue...I use the thing a lot more than other people, I suppose....but really??....days out of their batteries?

Btw...I dont claim to know much, but I run an energy rom and it hasnt seemed to have drained my battery any more than the stock ATT rom I had..if it does, it hasnt been at a noticeable level...I really had no idea a battery could last days on these phones...I used to love my 8525 with the 3500 mh battery,,,that lasted days...I wish I could have gotten one for this device but alas, no correct battery doors available ...stupid PTT button...lol

My testers have all different kinds of usage with their phones...one uses 3g and wifi on constantly, others use 3g and sync emails every 5 minutes for work...so the testing has been very thorough in this aspect....
WC
GT247 said:
Btw...I dont claim to know much, but I run an energy rom and it hasnt seemed to have drained my battery any more than the stock ATT rom I had..if it does, it hasnt been at a noticeable level...I really had no idea a battery could last days on these phones...I used to love my 8525 with the 3500 mh battery,,,that lasted days...I wish I could have gotten one for this device but alas, no correct battery doors available ...stupid PTT button...lol
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Mr WC...I have zero doubt regarding your ROMs testing...tried and proven ..I also know your testers use their devices differently, we all do...I was just amazed that people can get days out of their batteries on these devices, and my thinking was that they'd simply not use the thing to achieve that, lol...regarding your ROMS and testers....I would never question that...you do thorough work and your testers do thorough testing

Wasnt implying anything, was just stating procedure we go through is ll...
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GT247 said:
Mr WC...I have zero doubt regarding your ROMs testing...tried and proven ..I also know your testers use their devices differently, we all do...I was just amazed that people can get days out of their batteries on these devices, and my thinking was that they'd simply not use the thing to achieve that, lol...regarding your ROMS and testers....I would never question that...you do thorough work and your testers do thorough testing
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If you want a specifics scenario with WCX 28148 Sense 2021 build :
I use a RHOD100 with 4.49.25.17 radio, with HSDPA enabled, dynamic screen backlight, 2 minutes turn off device, 10 minutes OTA Active sync, Opera backgrounded, Twitter and Weather updated hourly, and I reach 2 days after 2 full battery cycles after HR.
Note that radio's choice has a real impact on autonomy. .91 and .95 sucks around 30% more battery with the very same scenario.
Now, your autonomy will vary with your area coverage when you call. I phone at least 30 minutes a day, sometimes more, rarely less.

Hmm....I've never changed the radio from the original AT&T ROM...I've wondered if I should in the past but being new and stupid, I just figured that since I've never had signal issues and what not, I'd just keep the one I have (not to mention I don't know how to flash a new one...lol)...the one I have now is 4.48.25.20...

btw, I like hearing other's usage stats, I take and make a ton of calls...I remember my 900 minute monthly plan from years ago...and the 1400 dollar bill I got in a month for going over my plan limit...lmao, I forget how many hours of calls I had...but who wouldn't when the 1400 dollar number hits?

[Q] Getting an IS tomorrow or on monday...

But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )

Splux said:
But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.

You should easily get 24 + hours if all you do is text mainly. Just remember to turn data off. It will help make your battery last longer.
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sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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Well, my current phone dies pretty quickly when texting a lot. Today it went from 60% down to 5%, and I woke for 11hours ago and have been texting ppl since then.
And I'm buying a new phone since my 4 touch-buttons on this one is getting really weird, they only work sometimes and yesterday they all died so I was stuck in a conversation and had to reboot to get out of it.
And sending texts and stuff is what I mainly do, of course I browse the Internet, play games and everything. During school and such I only text people, and a lot. So I pretty much needs the phone to make more than 24hours without charging it, even though I text a lot and listen to music.
@NardVa;
Won't be a problem. Already thought of that
Thanks for the replies

sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing

swatsor said:
I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I've made up my mind now, I'll use the official GB ROM for a couple of days/weeks/months (basically untill I'm tired of Sense 2.1) and then flash a Sense 3.0 ROM and hopefully I can understand which one of all those RUU's that's made for Europe too when I'm bored of Sense 2.1
You don't happen to know how it is with bricking this phone? Can you always reset it to stock, or can you actually brick it for real so it's 100% unusable?

Is rooting worth it?

When I got this phone I told myself I wasn't going to be a flashaholic. I'm no newcomer to root or custom rims but the vivid isn't that bad. Almost doesn't need to be cleaned up and OC'd. But the little things are getting to me.
1. Choppy scrolling
2. Choppy Rosie
3. Small lag with daily use
I don't want to sacrafice the good battery life i have been having.
What are your opinions and what Rom should I flash for stability and smooth scrolling.
If the majority doesn't seem to think it's worth it I'll stay stock. Thanks for all of your opinions
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I'd say it's worth it. My battery still has a good 20-30% battery by the end of the day.
I can't say much about which ROM to get, considering I've only been able to get the VjRaider to work, which I love by the way.
Those choppy things were bugging me as well, VjRaider fixed 'em up. Along with some pretty cool features.

I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config

In a word, Yes
My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.

If battery life is a cocern for you, rooting lets you get rid of the juice hogging bloatware. Wild Childs Illuminati series are great roms. He has Sense 3.0 and 3.5 versions, stock kernels, oc kernels and voltage controllers. I you like the stock look, thats the way to go. Better than stock battery life and moar speedz.

oooh, I forgot also, this was WELL worth it for me, because I can't stand the stupid battery meter that sense has, I like having the percentage there, and after I rooted I could edit that then

davidcampbell said:
I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
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Check out the app MyBackup by Rerware. I would post a link for you, but I don't have enough posts yet.
You can backup your system configurations, all the apps you have, what all your pages look like on your home screen, pictures, almost everything. And the best part about it is that you can do it online, or onto your SD card. Makes everything so much easier .

Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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davidcampbell said:
Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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That's what I am afraid of.
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That's what I am afraid of.
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Don't be afraid to get your hand dirty. Most of the custom ROMs available now are already in its 4th or 5th edition, at this point they are all pretty much very very stable. Think of it this way, whatever it is you like about your phone's current form, custom ROM does EVERYTHING better. It is smoother, faster, more stable (I used to get random reboots 3 times a week on stock ROM, not to mention the stupid carrier bloatwares and CIQ) and the ability to control the power usage through cpu control.
Trust me. It's not even close....

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431053
im very happy with that one very fluid after draining the battery than fully charging im getting 20 hours of real used (over 300 texts an hour of calling, internet browsing reading Engadget app, about 30 emails, and 10 pictures)
i do get random reboots about once every two days or so tho
so if you want something more stock tho
i hear this one is good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521

here is what I did to satisfy my lust for now, keeping in mind that I get no random reboots and I don't seem to have any issues with my phone at all.
I figured there would be some level of erasing my data so I wanted to get rooting out of the way when I first got the phone, within about 20 minutes of ownership I had unlocked the bootloader (which cleared personal data), installed CWM and taken a backup of my stock rom, I then applied the root update through cwm to get root, I am still running the stock rom and I can squeeze 24 hours out of my phone which is pretty impressive vs my htc hd2, I'm in a 3G area so I havent really used my 4G radio yet.
Then I went about installing an update to get my percentage on the battery instead of the stupid battery icon with no percentage, and replaced the home screen with ADW.Launcher and the lockscreen with WidgetLocker, and I'm pretty happy with the speed and capabilities of the phone now, I'm content to wait until ICS I think as I have not really had any stability issues with this setup, everything just works, one annoyance is there is a little lag on scrolling things, something I see is mentioned as fixed in the ROMS... so far its not a big deal for me, I think maybe if ICS cm9 isn't out by march then I will look at flashing a custom rom at that point "
I do really miss the polish of the MIUI rom I had on my HD2, MIUI did some amazing ui stuff and everything was where it needed to be... even simple things like a TOGGLE FOR WIFI in the notification bar... it seems extremely weird for that to not be there lol.
You watch, someone will reply now and say that a particular rom has that feature and I'll be like Fuuuuuuu and flashing a new ROM before tomorow... I can feel the urge to flash rising hahaha

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My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
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Completely agree, I couldn't go back to stock, the speed is far superior, I've tried a couple of Roms, I've just flashed vjraider, great Rom! And I foresee an even better future! Thanks devs,
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Personally, I find rooting to be worth it. First and foremost, it is the most in depth procedure of customization you can do to your phone to make it "yours". The speed and battery increases are pretty well worth it as well. I am currently running HoliRaider 1.5a with no problems whatsoever. Speed is amazing and I haven't had any stability issues. Considering HTC has allowed for the bootloader to be unlocked, most of the difficulty that comes with rooting has been taken out. Take a chance! Just follow instructions and read them twice before doing anything major, you'll be alright.

Root is a must for me... All the bloatware they put on my phone i had to get off xD my OCD kicks in and i need a way to delete EVERYTHING i can and still make the phone functional haha
I use WCX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521 3.5 and with his newest build I have been getting no reboots at 1.5ghz and its running like a charm
Battery life is a lot better now thank goodness! and I forgot to quote whoever said this but I too cant wait for something like CM7 or CM9 (not miui I hate it) Sense itself is too much for me though its beautiful its not needed I'd rather have INCREDIBLE speed than looks So im sticking with WCX untill CM9 becomes doable or they quickly get CM7 ready to go

[Q] best rom & kernel without camera issues and horrible battery life?

Hi I used cm11 and it lasted 3-4 days on battery but camera was faulty force closes among restarts. So I switched to Viperone which works but runs hot and battery life is about 8 hours... it loses 5% per minute when in use basically...
I need extreme efficiency cool operation with perfect operating camera and video and cm11 battery life... any help on best Rom kernel combo preferably cm11 with proper camera operation...
thx

Of course, everyone has an opinion. Here's mine:
If you like Sense, I like running NuSenSeven. It's a Sense 7 port that I'm currently running and is basically flawless. I tend to get 1.5 to 2 days of battery life (depending on Sprint service strength):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...t/rom-nusenseven-sense-7-0-v1-00-973-t3056647
If you do not like Sense, then I recommend Nocturnal GE (Google edition). I ran v1 of that ROM for a long time and since the base was written by HTC for the m7, it too is flawless. I got 2 to 2.5 days of battery life (again, depending on using wifi vs data and the strength of Sprint coverage):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...t/rom-nocturnal-ge-cdma5-0-112-07-14-t2965049
With both ROMs, I ran them with the kernel that came with the ROM.

Thanks I would so much prefer Cyanogenmod but I would also love to get this thing on my ATT because I carry a horrible nokia and this phone because this phone doesn't work on ATT.
I tried everything is it truly working today now?
How can I properly in the most logical way possible use ATT on my M7 Sprint HTC One? In terms of ways people got it to work because those guides are so far from straight forward someone needs to get slapped and take a lesson in how-to-properly-and-easily-describe-directions...
I tried it a year ago and it simply wasn't working like the logic behind it made no sense that it requires a Sense rom yet it's Permanent and only on Sense Rom's. That just doesn't make sense to me. I'm used to a standard UNLOCK.
If you can help me I'd so much appreciate it! Can you also provide the link to that best Sense rom you love? and confirm that the rom you love will allow ATT unlock?
THANKS