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Galaxy S - not as expected

People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.

You are right and wrong.
Sgs is not slow.
Based on your descrioption it appears that your problem only apears after you have installed lot of apps. I would bet this is because a lot of these apps have services running and auto load at startup.
The android platform's implementation of true multitasking does inherently introduce issues like lags when when critical resources like memory is depleted. Sgs only has 512mb ram. So when lots of services run in the background, it slows down and although it tries to free up ram, it can overwhelmed when all those apps tries to restart itself.
Task killers / autostarts app / kernel and tunings can only do so much based on my experience.
Best option is to be more selective with app download and what you really want to keep on the phone.
IPhone doesn't have true multitasking thus don't havr the same issue and appears faster. Of course the UI is GPU accelerated which helps.
So really depends how much you yourself multitask at then of the day and whether you need it. Many don't and thus find iPhone ideal.
Ice cream sandwich will bring gpu acceleration mainstream to android.
Still loving my sgs. I have an ipad2 which I also love but squirm when I wanted it to multitask.
My 2 cents sharing
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I started answering OP's question, but I it's pretty much the same thing you said...
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I started answering OP's question, but I it's pretty much the same thing you said...
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LOL same here

Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides

vash_stanped said:
Personal opinion - I enjoy customizing the phone, flashing and changing things, right now I'm on MIUI Mint Berry Edition 1.10.28 and it's fast, behaves very well and I really can´t complain.
If you don't like customizing and "owning" your phone, that way I believe you would prefer the Iphone because in terms of sock stuff it behaves very well.
Those are different phones, people have different taste you have pros and cons on both sides
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This man knows his stuff.

Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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Apple clock their processors very high but Samsung don't. That's why many people report their iPod touch or their iPhone getting very hot and then starts smoking. I read on a tech site nearly 10 months ago that a Guy bought a iPod touch and some days later while listening music it started smoking then he went to apple store aand they gave him a new one , this happened to that Guy 4 Times and he got a new i pod touch everytime and had loose his data again and again everytime they gave him a new one. You can call that Guy unlucky but still it happened to him, so apple just wants to get the best out of their devices even though they start burning and you can cook food on them. I use doctorz rom and haven't faced even a single lag on the latest v8.1
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Whoa.
I'm pretty sure Apple underclocks more than overclocks the majority of their devices. I read that the iPhone 4S, for example, was underclocked to 800MHz (from 1000MHz, I'm assuming).

I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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BHuvan goyal said:
I don't think so it maybe different for iPhone 4s. As its dual core also has more ram.
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I don't know if Wikipedia is a good enough source for you, but it says so right under the Wikipedia article for Underclocking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underclocking
"Most smartphones and PDAs, such as the Motorola Droid, Palm Pre, and Apple iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s, use the "underclocking" of a more powerful processor, rather than the full clocking of a less powerful processor, to maximize battery life. The designers for such mobile devices often discover that a slower processor gives worse battery life than a more powerful processor at a lower clock rate. They select a processor on the basis of the performance per watt of the processor."
I'm sure you could find more credible sources if you googled it.

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People have been saying that the Galaxy S actually come close to be an iPhone killer. Or it already has that I'm not sure of. But after using the SGS for almost a year now, I do feel that it is slow. Much much slower than iPhones.
However, it is okay if they aren't many apps. Everytime my SGS slows down, I would resort to factory reset and it would be okay until I start spamming downloads again.
This is totally contradictory to the iPhone. The lags I experience isn't major though. But it is annoying for sure and comparing to iPhones, I always feel like my phone is somehow underpowered. Anyone has the same experience? By the way, I'm using stock 2.3.4 JVQ.
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If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.

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If you want smoothness and no lag, just flash froyo 2.2.1.
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I keep hearing this and i want to try it for myself which froyo rom would you recommend?

I heard that a lot too. But I have friends running on 2.2.1 asked me to help them to get their device to 2.3.3/2.3.4. The reason they gave me was that their phones are much laggier than mine.

Galaxy s

I want to buy a new phone, and just want to ask it worth to buy galaxy s or should i go for another phone??

lopman said:
I want to buy a new phone, and just want to ask it worth to buy galaxy s or should i go for another phone??
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That kind of depends on what you're looking for in a phone. I have a Galaxy S, and I'm very happy with it. However, it's now been replaced by the "Galaxy SII", which is probably considered "nicer" by most people (slightly better screen, faster dual-core CPU, etc, etc). The SII will be more expensive, so that may be a factor for you.
If you want a phone that just works, can play .mp3 files and games, and has good screen and memory as standard, then the Galaxy S will do all that and more.

Thanks for your reply.... i was more interested in is it a good phone to root and does it have many stable costum roms

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Thanks for your reply.... i was more interested in is it a good phone to root and does it have many stable costum roms
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Yes; very easy to root; has a wide choice of custom roms; is "officially" supported by CM7; and the community is working very hard to port ICS to this phone. Also very hard to "permanently" break from a custom-rom point of view - "download mode" means almost any other problem is fixable.

I got one more question before i buy it..... which one is best galaxy s plus or galaxy s

There are a lot more ROMs out there for the SGS compared to the SGS+, although some/most (not sure about this...) will work on both phones..
I don't have any experience with the SGS+, but if you're looking for ease of rooting and ROM choice, I'd go for the standard SGS

NielsGoetschalckx said:
There are a lot more ROMs out there for the SGS compared to the SGS+, although some/most (not sure about this...) will work on both phones..
I don't have any experience with the SGS+, but if you're looking for ease of rooting and ROM choice, I'd go for the standard SGS
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Thats true. So i would also say I9000.

galaxy s
I have an option to buy my friends galaxy s which is used for a year in good condition. The i9000 is discontinued in india for some reason, and worse phones like the galaxy s plus and lcd are introduced. I just wanna know if its worth buying the galaxy s now or should i wait for the galaxy s advance so i'm more upto date on the technology? Personally i feel the i9000 was a phone ahead of its time when it was released it still can beat any 2011 single core 1ghz phone and the sgx540 is used in the galaxy nexus too so it must be a pretty good gpu. I just need your opinion on this. Thanks

Both S and S+ are great phones.
If you prefer lots of custom roms then you can go on SGS, but if you like faster cpu (can be overclocked at 2 ghz) and stronger battery life like me, then SGS+ is obvious choice at similar price range.

But don't you think if we use the sgs+ battery in the sgs and overclock it to 1.4ghz,the hummingbird would perform better than a scorpion running at 2ghz? I'm talking about overall performance which is including the processor and gpu.

Am not sure about that.
Adreno 205 is very good gpu used also in Xperia Play for example.
Together with 2ghz processor is still better solution for me.
I found this comparision test between two gpus:
http://www.grandmax.net/2010/10/adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540-mobile-gpu.html

Thats an old comparison between android 2.1 and 2.2 obviously there will be a big difference, according to the latest benchmarks the gpu's rank as mali400-adreno220-sgx540-geforce-adreno205.

Can you provide a link with those latest benchmarks, i like to read it.
Thanks.

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Can you provide a link with those latest benchmarks, i like to read it.
Thanks.
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968

After reading this thread my conclusion and answer to your original question remained the same.
These two phones are very similar to the overall strength and the only difference is in relation to the CPU/GPU.
However i9000 is discontinued and is more logical for me, to purchase a new model as his closest successor.

My feeling is the galaxy s if you are after adding custom roms to your phone. The community is massive. Personally I don't think the other phone will compare. Remember the S2 has actually replaced the galaxy s. I say this as the S was samsungs frontline phone at the time. All others are rehashed s phones aimed at a different market segment. If you are going to get a new phone i would go for the s2 or possible wait for s3. If you need it now i would get s
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Yea i think i'll go for the S itself, S2 is way too expensive, the price hasn't fallen since its launch a year back nd besides i'm gettin the s for 1/3 the price of the s2 . But any idea how much will the s advance cost? If its somewhere close to she s2 itself then there's no use of waiting for it.

NielsGoetschalckx said:
There are a lot more ROMs out there for the SGS compared to the SGS+, although some/most (not sure about this...) will work on both phones..
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Bcoz of such lack of education many people hard bricked their S+ , no roms from s work on s+ , it's a totally different hardware, bootloader partitions etc..
As for those who commented the gpu, according to all benchmarks there is no big difference between adreno 205 (with updated drivers) and sgx.
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[Q]Opinion please :D

So hello.
Im a owner of a Galaxy gio device but i wanna change to a new and more amm powerfull phone.
So my operator offers me this Razr I.
Im glad with the full caracteristic of the phone.
But i read somewhere that this is a mid-range phone. So its true?
And what about custom roms development?
Im a obsesive with that xD. So i wanna make some ports and cookings but there its no very active development here right?
So whats your opinion Razr i owners? This is a very good phone?
i wanna have a future with this. And the device its cheap here. I dont have the money for a Galaxy s3 so i look this device :3
For last. Sorry for my real bad english. Im from mexico xP
Edit: oh! A little.more question. This device its hvga.qvga.or wath? cause im a themer obsesive xP
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The device is a middle-end phone because this is what it is.
It's not a GS3, a One X+ or something like this high-end phone. In term of price point, and pure specs it doesn't compet with this phones.
But it's a good middle range phone. On some points it can be close to an high-end, on other not (the camera is not as good, but eh CPU can be faster enough).
Custom ROM is at the beginning.
We only have a CMW port since this week.
There's some dev here that began to du the hard work needed for a port of CM or AOSP. It's just a matter of time to wait.
About my opinion on the Phone: As I came for a Moto Defy with CM10 on it, I'm totally happy.
It's damn fast (even with the stock Moto 4.0.4 rom we have), the screen is big and gorgeous (even it's not the best and the high res one), but the phone is not so big as other >4.3" phone. This was a very very big selling point for me.
The build quality is on the top of what I now (Iphone included), I never had a phone that fell so well made.
The only minus point I can have it's about the lack of features I was used to with CM10 ... but nothing dramatic
Last one: the screen is qHD 960*540

It has a mid-range screen for sure. And the RAZR i is not a big monster of a phone like the SGS3 or One X etc. But the performance, build quality and battery life of the device is at least as good as those high end phones if not better. The screen is what makes it mid-range.

Well, I don't get battery life of 2-3 days on a high-ed phone so that's definetly a lot better. Also, the responsiveness of the UI overall seems to be more responsive than an S3 or Note II. I also didn't encounter any problems or slow-downs with the CPU, always blazing fast for me. Build quality also high-end (but hey it's Motorola so I did expect that ).
But yes, the camera is on the mid-range for sure. The screen... well, that depends. Maybe technically but for my eyes it's more like high-end. So that more or less depends on how you see it.

Ty for all your opinions. Today i reserved it and gonna have it in three or four days . For me this is a mid-high-end phone. Its in the middle of that two . Ty again. If there gonna have Cm9 or 10. Expect a lot of ports for me
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Hey Marco. Could you please give your opinion about this phone? Im on Galaxy s2 atm but it is boring after a long time
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smubob said:
Hey Marco. Could you please give your opinion about this phone? Im on Galaxy s2 atm but it is boring after a long time
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Amm i still havent it , my operator takes soo long to give me a credit ,
But what i see on the forums and with friends, this is a very good phone , i can recomend it
And if you came from a galaxy device like me, this is a totally new phone , i have boring of my gio too xD
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smubob said:
Hey Marco. Could you please give your opinion about this phone? Im on Galaxy s2 atm but it is boring after a long time
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@ Smubob - I came from Iphone to Galaxy S2 to Razr i and I love it.... only thing I miss is not having adobe flash although there is a few ways around this 'sort of anyway' and the lack of physical home button.
Battery life if brilliant and beats a lot of handsets on benchmark speeds due to 2gb ram and intel chip which makes it very snappy and fast.
Hope this helps

Worthy Successor for sgs+?

Hey all
I'm looking for a replacement for my phone as I'm frustrated by it. I have done some research and the phones which I'm leaning towards are the Nexus 4, Optimus G & Droid DNA. (I don't live in the States but I'm going there on holiday now, so I think the DNA is out unless an international variant is coming out soon) I have a maximum budget of $500.
Thanks I really appreciate your advice.
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Those are great devices.
I would add SGS3 also to the list.
Galaxy Nexus is good too.
SGS2,for example, is still good choice if you want cheaper.

You need to ask yourself some questions like : What will the new phone allow me to do that I can't do now? Will I play graphic intense games that require quad core?
I asked myself these questions and more after every new phone that was released after the origonal SGSI. I didn't upgrade until the Note 2 came out. There was no need as far as I was concerned. My passion is photo and photo retouching!
What do you do most with your phone? It may be worth saving up for something you won't be disappointed with after two months.

Thanks for the replies
Well I manly use my phone for socializing, media and my main means of using the Internet. I occasionally play games and I'm very much a power user.
^^ I thought about the sgs3 and while it's not as powerful as the Optimus G it is significantly cheaper, but then it starts to fall in the Nexus' price range which gives more bang for the buck imho. As for the others I think the Nexus 4 also out performs them.
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Why are u frustated, I love my SGS+, with SmoothieICS or SmoothieJB ROM it is fastest ever !!!

It just is so unreliable. It freezes everyday at least twice if not more and it so so laggy all the time Our phone also has extremely little dev support. I have run quite a few roms (Cranium back in the day, Moonrom, Ivendors and Acro's CM9.) and kernels (Cranium 2ghz, Vitality, Skyhigh and CastangaIT) on my phone heck I have even tried numerous scripts (Thunderbolt, Adrenaline, V6 and geeky engine (lol)) but still it always suffers from the above.
tl;dr I just want a working Android phone
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My Take On The Nexus 4

As someone who has tried (and failed) to switch from iOS to Android in the past, I feel I should share this with other who maybe have the same problem.
I have tried some many android devices, HTC, Galaxy S, S2 then S3. Galaxy Note, you name it I've gave it a go.
Problem I always had was that it was too laggy or had too many things missing for me that I loved about iOS
I have once again taken the plunge with the Nexus 4.
I LOVE this phone. LOVE. It is everything a phone should be, to a point. It's the best android phone i've ever owned. I hate the look of touchwiz, never a massive fan of sense, the sheer beauty of the "people" app, should be enough to tell you that google has ARRIVED.
My only bug bears are the obvious lack of storage, which i'm actually doing suprisngly well with, like I have an N7 which I watch films / tv shows on, so the N4 is basically for music, along with spotify it's working like a dream (also have google play with 16,000 songs, which is working well, although download speeds are awful)
The other biggy, and this is the one is the battery life, I've tried franco kernel, cm10, stock kernel, etc etc. There's no two ways about it, with the screen turned on and using 3G it EATS the battery and that saddens me a lot. I'm lucky that I can charge it at work, but lordy lordy lord does it eat a lot. It's a shame, I'm hoping in the future they'll be a fix for this, I mean it's not a show stopper, but it's more annoying than anything else, seeing the battery go down as you use it for browsing and listening to music etc
Other than that, I think I've finally done it, I've finally broken the iOS spell and made the move. I'm delighted, the phone is lovely to look at, lovely to hold and use (and actually works unlike my f*cking iphone which dropped calls left right and centre)
I'm chuffed

Congrats man. It's pretty normal for a new phone to have horrible battery life at first, but then to get a big improvement with software updates.
Suprised that Franco's kernel isn't helping you though.
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Congrats man. It's pretty normal for a new phone to have horrible battery life at first, but then to get a big improvement with software updates.
Suprised that Franco's kernel isn't helping you though.
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Am wondering if maybe it's something im doing wrong. I may well try and do anything wipe and re-install from scratch etc
Appreciate the reply.

Just switched from galaxy nexus running 4.2 to the iPhone 5. Not sure what to do, spent a bunch on the phone missing android big time.
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How long would u say the nexus 4 is lasting u? Full day?

Terd Ferguson said:
Just switched from galaxy nexus running 4.2 to the iPhone 5. Not sure what to do, spent a bunch on the phone missing android big time.
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How long would u say the nexus 4 is lasting u? Full day?
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yeah im getting a full day probably, but it's obviously dependant on use.

try faux kernel. undervolt by -100mv on all frequencies, lower your max frequency to 1134, and change governor to intellidemand. you should see better battery life then:thumbup:
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try faux kernel. undervolt by -100mv on all frequencies, lower your max frequency to 1134, and change governor to intellidemand. you should see better battery life then:thumbup:
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okay .... i'll give it a go, dont suppose you have a link to faux kernel app do you?

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okay .... i'll give it a go, dont suppose you have a link to faux kernel app do you?
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faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod. also use one of faux's latest beta kernels. I think its up to 003b10
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faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod
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ahh thanks man, appreciate the help

I cant help but think though, that phone manufacturers should stop worrying about siz and weight and just stick a slightly better battery in. I mean a couple off mm and a few grams is hardly gonna put people off buying a phone.
I know for me the first thing i look at is "Battery Life" not size and weight.
I mean look at the iphone 5, it's too ****ing thin, make it the same size as 4s and stick a bigger battery in ffs

Definitely I know for myself that I'm happy with anything below 1.5cm which we know would give a lot more battery life,shame we are stuck with manufacturer's going for thinner phones and the only company to buck the trend is Motorola however their phones currently suck .
Battery life is improving for me I have narrowed it down to the radio, it seems mobile data destroys it much more than ant other phone I have used...WiFi performance is amazing and idle well I can say its the best. This was on the matr1x 4.0 kernel, not stock however.
Not sure why mobile data kills this device but WiFi efficiency is through the roof at least
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faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod. also use one of faux's latest beta kernels. I think its up to 003b10
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hi
have installed faux kernel changed the first couple in trickster but am unsure of how and what to change voltage wise in system tuner ???
any advice ?

Battery life is definitely a problem when using a phone with mobile data on. That's Google's mistake with android 4.2 and hopefully be fixed on 4.2.2.
Also congrats on moving to Android. I also moved from iPhone to android. To nexus s to be exact. The experience wasn't lag free but it did what I needed to and I loved the customization that android brought. Since then, been using android, but only nexus devices as I love pure android look
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I cant help but think though, that phone manufacturers should stop worrying about siz and weight and just stick a slightly better battery in. I mean a couple off mm and a few grams is hardly gonna put people off buying a phone.
I know for me the first thing i look at is "Battery Life" not size and weight.
I mean look at the iphone 5, it's too ****ing thin, make it the same size as 4s and stick a bigger battery in ffs
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you realize that the iPhone's battery is about 1400 mAh right? the secret here is an efficient yet limited software.
that's not to say that the 2100 mAh is not big enough for an Android device. it should do just as good if not better than the S3, which has a similar sized battery. something certainly is not working as intended. some say a buggy radio, others speak of the 4.2 and hardware not optimized. whatever it is, i am hopeful that a software update will take care of it.
i generally agree with the OP, i don't see myself using skinned Android anymore. stock android>IOS>skinned android.

Vanilla android >jail broken iOS>90" TV's
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gsusx said:
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have installed faux kernel changed the first couple in trickster but am unsure of how and what to change voltage wise in system tuner ???
any advice ?
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open system tuner, press the voltage button, the first voltage (384) should be 900mv. press the -12.5mv a few times until that first one says 800mv, now they're all lowered by 100 you can go further if you want, some chips can handle -150 no problem. but in my experience 100 is pretty safe and enough to notice a difference in battery
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Android is already better than iOS in terms of users anyway, I would like to just pick at the part of Jobs making the touchscreen...he didnt it was infact HTC that made the first capacitive touchscreen device, Apple just put together all the same hardware 5 years later and marketed the crap out of it which is great its typical apple and now we have an amazing market where Android exists and these high end smartphones are popular and back in the market .

That's apple all over though really isnt it
I mean archos brought out an Mp3 player with video about 3 years before apple did it on the ipod, apple then claimed they invented that, along with the wheel, dinosaurs, and the earth

If you guys are worried about the battery I highly recommend an external battery pack. I know they look sorta gimmicky like that stocking stuffer present you get and never use but there are some sleek looking ones that match the beauty of the nexus 4 and are easy to use. Its sorta like carrying another phone around in terms of weight/size.
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The op said he has access to a charger so what is the problem? It is not like we are in the woods.
You are using a personal computer. If you sit down and listen to music and have the screen on how long do you expect it to last?
I also listen to podcasts bit I know of I do this I will not get an entire day.
When I use the phone normally I get great battery life. Just go into your apps in the panel and look under running. Use titanium backup to freezing what you don't need.
Good luck..
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