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[Q] Debian or Ubuntu?

Starting fresh on my spare laptop. Anyone have any preferences between Debian or Ubuntu? I can't decide.
Also, as far as developing is concerned, is linux just linux or will one distro be better than the other?

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Ubuntu is for the easy Linux user, but also good for laptops. I say go the osx86 route, I've got Snow Leopard running Vanilla on my laptop.

yeah I've been using ubuntu for a while I was thinking about switching it up to debian, but theres no real reason. osx86 I tried that along time ago and it didnt install so i gave up, i didnt really want it anyhow, it's not very friendly for me i suppose i like having full control over it i guess. maybe I'll try it. lol i have an xp laptop, win7 laptop, ubuntu desktop, and xp desktop. the extra one i moved from xp to 7 but im going to move it to linux.

Osx86 has grown fast, to the point where it's just a couple of steps to install.
1.Get a boot CD
2.Grab a retail Snow Leopard distro(Doesn't have to be store bought if you get my drift...)
3.Install!
4.DSDT auto patcher
You're done!
Nawcom boot CD that auto detects your hardware and if you are capable of using vanilla or not(Basically Core, Core 2, i3, i5, i7 cpus can use vanilla). Doesn't patch your dsdt automatically though.
http://blog.nawcom.com/?p=446
DSDT auto patcher! You can generate your DSDT if it's available, or just create a generic one!
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=235523

red hat
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oh red hat, corporate america's linux. Nothing wrong with it, just their ideals. No offense souljaboy.
LOL ok ok vbetts maybe ill try some osx86 you're quite persuasive....

Try out FreeBSD? Not a bad one either.

vbetts said:
Nawcom boot CD that auto detects your hardware and if you are capable of using vanilla or not(Basically Core, Core 2, i3, i5, i7 cpus can use vanilla). s=&showtopic=235523[/url]
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I'm running 10.6.3 on a 4 year old Celeron M laptop. And I'm sure I had vanilla running at one point.
Then decided to try a sleep kernel. Which didn't work much...

DanWilson said:
I'm running 10.6.3 on a 4 year old Celeron M laptop. And I'm sure I had vanilla running at one point.
Then decided to try a sleep kernel. Which didn't work much...
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Netburst might be able to run Vanilla, I'm not sure. Try out Legacy or Modbin for sleep.

Linux Mint is the way to go man! It's like Ubuntu just with lots and lots of improvements. The speed is also better I was amazed when I went from Ubuntu to Mint 10. It's just better

For the most "painless" version def get Ubuntu. But it is rather bloated - though easily remedied.
I like Debian a lot too - but it's not as simple as Ubuntu's stick the disc in and forget it. Also I love the updater - I have a "glorified phone charger" netbook that I keep updated and it runs pretty snappy considering the hardware is dog slow.

Ubuntu 10.10 hands down, netbook remix is nice, desktop version would also work fine on your lappy.
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ubuntu, i boot it using my flash memory

Install Gentoo.

Slackware can make a calculator fun like a Ferrari. Enough said.
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I installed ubuntu 10.10 but it bores me. I was thinking mint debian edition. But I may just go straight debian with gnome. I know my way around linux so troubleshooting issues when they come up isnt a problem. I have a virtual debian command line only server to stream my music through http runs well enough. Never really played with gentoo. lol I really think the real difference between linux is their GUI.
How about this, whoever can come up with the most rediculous/funniest reason why I should install it. I will install your suggested operating system...... GO!!!

The newest Ubuntu or BackTrack!

bertscookie said:
I installed ubuntu 10.10 but it bores me. I was thinking mint debian edition. But I may just go straight debian with gnome. I know my way around linux so troubleshooting issues when they come up isnt a problem. I have a virtual debian command line only server to stream my music through http runs well enough. Never really played with gentoo. lol I really think the real difference between linux is their GUI.
How about this, whoever can come up with the most rediculous/funniest reason why I should install it. I will install your suggested operating system...... GO!!!
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you can have stretchy windows while moving them

!!Linux thread!!

How many here use linux as their main OS?
As an ahead, please, no OS bashing. I would just like to know how many of you use linux as your day to day OS. Me, I've used just about everything out there, but these days I've settled on Ubuntu. It has worked perfectly for me for years, so I stay with it. You?

I'm using Archlinux with Openbox as my default OS: fast, really fast!

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I'm using Archlinux with Openbox as my default OS: fast, really fast!
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Yeah, using just about any distro with openbox is usually fast.

PC Windows, Laptop Ubuntu

dual boot win7 64 bit and Ubuntu 64 bit

vais4me said:
dual boot win7 64 bit and Ubuntu 64 bit
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Same here but spend most of my time on Windows. Wine doesn't quite cut it yet.
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Unless I need PS or Reason I use Ubuntu....
I'm even liking Unity now
Not sure Ubuntu actually counts as Linux though to the hardcore folks....

I mainly use Ubuntu for almost everything. For gaming, I use Windows 7.

I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and trying to get used to Unity... I think they made big mistake by removing Classic desktop and forcing Unity. Probably I'll change distro soon.
Ubuntu is my main OS for years.

I used to use Kubuntu as my OS because I like the way it works, its really stable and fast and using less resources then Windows 7, I tried the recent Opensuse 12.1 version and Kubuntu version, they are both good.
But because I don't wish to dual boot and I need Windows 7 for playing games like cod I'm right now using Windows 7 and that is mainly because one application called QQ which doesnt have video chat in Linux and of course I got the resources for running a virtual Windows xp for that app, but I think its not worth it.
But if games and that app where working then I would use Linux as my main os, but I also have an legal license off Windows 7 home premium and I consider Windows 7 as an very good operating system so in fact I like using it because it works good.
But i'm for sure not going use Windows 8, right now I consider Windows 7 stable and fast ( I got an SSD ) but I guess if I didnt need use QQ that then when I quit gaming that I could use Linux, but its because my gf, I need to adjust to her and webQQ is troublesome with video chat.

albertsmuktupavels said:
I think they made big mistake by removing Classic desktop and forcing Unity.
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Gnome classic is back with Ubuntu 12.04

Ubuntu 11.10 with Gnome Shell.

I use arch, windows just for play games here

Triple booting windows 8 consumer preview, mountain lion, and Ubuntu 12.04.
I use lion the most (for school) then windows for gaming, and Ubuntu when windows upsets me (which it hasn't lately) windows 8 is pretty nice
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Users are requested not to post irrelevant things in the thread.
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Grr I still have a grind with wubi then a grub update. Have they fixed it?
AOKP 4 LYF

Btw for my problem it's rtl 8111/8168 :/
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i posted this on the other topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23534574&postcount=28
AllGamer said:
To me it wont matter at all, as i'm still forced to use Windows in the office, but on the personal level
all my PCs and Laptops are on LinuxMint or Ubuntu, or some other dedicated server versions of Debian or FreeBSD, like my home made load balancing router with pFsense, and FreeNAS
They work better if not waaaaaaaaaaaay better than Windows XP, Vista, 7 and most definitely 8
now the latest version of Ubuntu can even run on Android Phones, which makes it even better
there are also native phone version of Ubuntu as well
I've been using Linux since Win9x times, that when Linux was still mostly command lines and ugly X11 GUI
Also if you are a Gamer, YES, Linux does work with Windows Games, it's not plug and play easy as on Windows, but is getting there, just install Wine, or your favourite Emulator for whatever you need to get the game running.
You also got the free virtual box, so you can run technically anything you want in your Linux box
very few games lik only those annoying MMORPG that have security anti hacking protection, will require to be installed in a virtual Windows, as they are not able to compatible in Linux
Most games installs and plays just fine in Wine
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so feel free to ask
however, i must say, chances are you'll get help faster on the relevant distro forum, than here on XDA for Linux related questions

AllGamer said:
i posted this on the other topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23534574&postcount=28
so feel free to ask
however, i must say, chances are you'll get help faster on the relevant distro forum, than here on XDA for Linux related questions
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Hmm.. sure .. anyways the solution has been given to me by GOogle

Not me... i dual boot windows 7 x64 and ubuntu

[Q] ideal Linux computer

I need your guys opinions on the ideal Linux computer for building roms and stuff.
Maximum: $500
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lreyes15 said:
I need your guys opinions on the ideal Linux computer for building roms and stuff.
Maximum: $500
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Linux supports a lot of hardware and is very fast even on older processors
You can easily get a decent computer with this amount
You should buy a laptop or computer without OS as it costs cheaper and then you can install Linux over it
You can easily get a laptop with Core i3 processor in this amount
Which Linux are you planning to use: Ubuntu, Cent OS, Suse, Red Hat or Fedora or any other variant?
try searching google or visit few shops to get more details on computers at this price

vivek_bhoj said:
Linux supports a lot of hardware and is very fast even on older processors
You can easily get a decent computer with this amount
You should buy a laptop or computer without OS as it costs cheaper and then you can install Linux over it
You can easily get a laptop with Core i3 processor in this amount
Which Linux are you planning to use: Ubuntu, Cent OS, Suse, Red Hat or Fedora or any other variant?
try searching google or visit few shops to get more details on computers at this price
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Ubentu is a common one so I guess that one
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lreyes15 said:
Ubentu is a common one so I guess that one
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But I'd want a pure Linux only computer I have a windows vista but its a family computer for the family so I'm not gonna install all this stuff
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you can run Linux on every Computer. Ubuntu is fine, Unity is now sstable.
If you want to have dualboot with with windows, you have to make partitions on disk.
1. windows partition
2. Linux / (rooot) partition, make it about 20GiB
3. Linux /swap partition, size of your RAM
4. Optionaly /home, usefull if ou wanna reinstall distro and keep desktop, settings of most app etc untouched.
1st install windows then linux

the most versatile Linux operating system
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sPqUuYbVR8

Please see this thread for such questions: **Desktops and Laptops Thread**. Closed.

What linux distro should I pick?

EDIT: A small update. I recently built a pc and I therefore have my laptop collecting dust. I was thinking I'd install Linux on it, but which distro could you recommend me?

Dualboot.
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If you don't mind your personal information being used for God knows what, constant crashes, slow performance, viruses , malware, having no rights and basically being a slave to Microsoft, then go ahead and use Windows, you deserve it.
Otherwise, use Linux

Theshawty said:
Since I don't play anymore on this laptop (I have a PS3 for gaming), do you think I should install Linux or stay with W7? Is there a good Linux alternative to MS Word? (maybe Libre Office?) I'm using MS Word 2007 for a project work and would therefore like a good replacement.
My laptop is kinda slow, which means it would be more than adequate for Linux ^^
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Why not both?

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Why not both?
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Been thinking: Why?

I switched to Linux and never looked back
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when i was ten
When I was ten, I switched to Ubuntu 6, or 8 or something. I didn't understand how to use it and didn't install. This left me to believe that Linux sucked. I got a Mac at 13 cuz I was sick of bugs/ugliness etc on windows. Did not regret that. But then my friend said he had Linux on his PC and that it was solid. I gave it a try (now nearly 15 and able to use computers much better) and I loved it.
IMO Linux is able to do everything, yes everything better than windows or mac , combined . I suggest Ubuntu 12.10 (what I have ATM) as it is very use friendly. If your laptop is quite slow and you find it is too bad on Ubuntu, you can install different desktop environments like XCFE or LDE using the Debian based 'apt-get'
Seriously, I see no reason for windows, especially since steam is now under ha heavy make over to become Linux compatible.
Definitely download a distro and try it and see if you like it or not. You can always duel boot or not installed it at all
Edit: I also think fedora is good (especially if you dislike unity) and I have heard that Linux mint is nice (not used myself much).
Debian is IMO not so good compared to Ubuntu as it is like choosing between a plain pizza, or a pizza with ham, cheese, pineapple and a side order and drink. I'm hungry now :'(
So yeah... if you (or anyone else) want help, post here or pm me if u dont get a response.
I only installed Linux this year so know what being a n00b is like

Fallon9111 said:
When I was ten, I switched to Ubuntu 6, or 8 or something. I didn't understand how to use it and didn't install. This left me to believe that Linux sucked. I got a Mac at 13 cuz I was sick of bugs/ugliness etc on windows. Did not regret that. But then my friend said he had Linux on his PC and that it was solid. I gave it a try (now nearly 15 and able to use computers much better) and I loved it.
IMO Linux is able to do everything, yes everything better than windows or mac , combined . I suggest Ubuntu 12.10 (what I have ATM) as it is very use friendly. If your laptop is quite slow and you find it is too bad on Ubuntu, you can install different desktop environments like XCFE or LDE using the Debian based 'apt-get'
Seriously, I see no reason for windows, especially since steam is now under ha heavy make over to become Linux compatible.
Definitely download a distro and try it and see if you like it or not. You can always duel boot or not installed it at all
Edit: I also think fedora is good (especially if you dislike unity) and I have heard that Linux mint is nice (not used myself much).
Debian is IMO not so good compared to Ubuntu as it is like choosing between a plain pizza, or a pizza with ham, cheese, pineapple and a side order and drink. I'm hungry now :'(
So yeah... if you (or anyone else) want help, post here or pm me if u dont get a response.
I only installed Linux this year so know what being a n00b is like
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Wow...that's a lot of talking....
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strip419 said:
Wow...that's a lot of talking....
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Wow, that was very little talking.....
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I've been using Linux for over 10 years. I don't program or anything like that. It does what I need, which isn't much, perfectly.
Just can't use phone OEM utilities.
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Dual-boot is the way to go. I use Ubuntu/Android on my netbook, OpenSuSE/WinXP on my big laptop, and Ubuntu/W7 on my desktop. Flexibility is a wonderful thing.

Backup important stuff, format your HDD, via win7 install.
Or, format, then install linux.
OR, format, install Win7, then install windows 8

@OP
Basically it boils down to what you use your computer for. If you only browse the web, do some word/excel work and play media, then you should definately try out a Linux distro. The popular ones come with all the neccessary stuff pre-installed and their usability out of the box is great.
However, if you're into photo/video/music editing and gaming, then you're probably better off staying with Windows, as the alternatives for e.g. Photoshop or After Effects are horrible and getting these apps to run on Linux is a nightmare.. much easier to just stick with Windows or, as some have suggested, dual boot.
Some other observations I've made from running Linux for a few years:
- Linux's security is much tighter and there's virtually no viruses/malware
- the need for maintanance is almost non-exsistant compared to Windows - no need for defragmenting, ram cleaners, registry cleaners etc..
- Linux usually runs better on older hardware than brand new stuff.. some new cool features can take time to implement
- you'll almost always have problems with certain hardware.. either the scrolling on the trackpad won't work, or your bluetooth dongle will be messed up, or the special keys on your keyboard won't be working.. there's always something that just won't work
With all that said, I personally don't use Linux anymore because I just don't have the wanted level of freedom while using it. Every day I want an application that does something specific, and while I can just download and run it under windows in 2 minutes, I have to jump through hoops to get the same thing done on Linux. I've learned how to keep my Windows optimized and safe, I just take it as normal and I enjoy "taking care" of it. Some people don't have time for messing about and want stuff to work out of the box. This is why I've installed Linux Mint on my mom's laptop 3 years ago and she absolutely loves it.

Dual boot. If you don't like linux, or you need your computer NOW and you don't have time to figure it out, then you could be stuck...
Speaking from experience, with a computer that currently has no bootable OS, messed up partitions, and a very crappy external hard drive that's making copying out my folders more difficult that it should.
If only I paid the same amount of attention to my computer as do my phone...
Edit: bootable as in installed, I'm running off Linux Mint v13 usb right now
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If you've never used linux before - you actually shouldn't replace W7.
And if you're really interested in discovering linux, you should first ask yourself some questions:
1. Can you do backups for your W7? (if you don't have any important files on your laptop - skip this)
2. Can you manage your disk partitions? (with gparted or acronis disk director, for instance)
3. Are you sure you can manage linux installation? (if you're going to install some human-distro like ubuntu or fedora - don't bother about it)
4. You can face some drivers problems after linux installation. Do you really want it?
5. Are you sure you can restore W7 after all?
If your answer for any of this questions is "no" - you shouldn't install linux. Yet.

Wipe HDD and install Linux Mint. There is no reason to keep W7 if you have PS3 for gaming...

Fallon9111 said:
When I was ten, I switched to Ubuntu 6, or 8 or something. I didn't understand how to use it and didn't install. This left me to believe that Linux sucked. I got a Mac at 13 cuz I was sick of bugs/ugliness etc on windows. Did not regret that. But then my friend said he had Linux on his PC and that it was solid. I gave it a try (now nearly 15 and able to use computers much better) and I loved it.
IMO Linux is able to do everything, yes everything better than windows or mac , combined . I suggest Ubuntu 12.10 (what I have ATM) as it is very use friendly. If your laptop is quite slow and you find it is too bad on Ubuntu, you can install different desktop environments like XCFE or LDE using the Debian based 'apt-get'
Seriously, I see no reason for windows, especially since steam is now under ha heavy make over to become Linux compatible.
Definitely download a distro and try it and see if you like it or not. You can always duel boot or not installed it at all
Edit: I also think fedora is good (especially if you dislike unity) and I have heard that Linux mint is nice (not used myself much).
Debian is IMO not so good compared to Ubuntu as it is like choosing between a plain pizza, or a pizza with ham, cheese, pineapple and a side order and drink. I'm hungry now :'(
So yeah... if you (or anyone else) want help, post here or pm me if u dont get a response.
I only installed Linux this year so know what being a n00b is like
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TL;DR: Linux is the best choice

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TL;DR: Linux is the best choice
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Lol, seems I wrote too much.
Basically @OP , Linux is awesome, Ubuntu good for begginer or pro
Dual boot if you aren't fully comfortable with scrapping windows (yet)

Are there any minimum requirements for dual boot using wubi? I had done it once on another computer and it caused "green stripes". Had to format it and reinstall windows.

<3 Linux
W7 for games only
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Switching from Windows 8 to Ubuntu

I have always been a Windows user, however I recently ordered 2 Samsung 840 Pro SSDs, which i was going to use for a Raid 0 setup with windows 8. However when UPS came to drop them off, I go to get them from my front door, and come to find my windows pc on a BSOD.. Annoyed i decide I want to use one of these SSD's to install Ubuntu or some other distro (decide on ubuntu) and install it on a SSD, and use as my main OS.
Keep in mine I have used Ubuntu before and tried out other distros but never as my main OS. Usually in virtual box or maybe a dual boot that ends up getting deleted later. But this time I wanted it to be different, I was going to set it up how i wanted it and keep and use it as my main OS.
So yesterday I did this, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on this new SSD. When it is done, I restart and am amazed on how quickly it boots. I know this is mostly because of the SSD, but it just completely skipped the ubuntu dot loading/boot screen. Motherboard post, ubuntu purple real quick, flash and bam its on login screen. 15 seconds from the push of power button.
Anyways once im in ubuntu, first thing i do is check for any updates, install those. Then I reboot. Now this next part is the part I am worried about. Installing the AMD propriety drivers. This task in the past has never gone well with me. Drivers seem to install, but reboot to non booting ubuntu. Or super slow choppy ubuntu. Meanwhile thanks to http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu I finally successfully installed AMD drivers (13.1 catalyst to be exact) now extremely happy me goes to install steam for linux . Install it, login, and first thing i do is download/install team fortress 2. Once that installs I click play, and bam it opens and plays. You dont know how happy i was to see this considering I have tried about a month ago to install ubuntu in dualboot to test steam. And never could get the drivers right or load tf2. I now go to install all my other linux compatible steam games, my humble bundle games etc.
Anyways this is getting too long for you guys to read lol . For the next couple hours I installed all the programs i wanted (chrome etc) then I wanted to customize some things. I didn't like unity much, but since this is ubuntu all that can be changed.
I ended up installing:
Cinnamon 1.6 desktop environment
Elementary Luna Mod Cinnamon theme
Plank + ElementaryOS-plank theme
Pantheon-terminal (from elementaryOS , not really needed but like the look of it lol)
Elementaryish theme for GTK+ and window theme (as you can see I like eOS look)
Elementary-icon theme
For a end result of this
Screenshot: http://i1.minus.com/ibcjIiidyTMpHL.png
Conclusion: I really love my setup now and will difinaly be using it as my main OS. However the little gamer inside me needs windows installed somewhere, so ill be using a 2ND SSD for windows (along with a 1TB hdd) pretty much 100% for games. May even set it up to boot right to steam big picture mode if thats possible lol. But valves attitude towards linux, and the humble bundles are both very positive things!

Too long

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Thats cool.. that someone here would be happy that i switched to Ubuntu, and kinda wanted to discuss with others that switched . But i guess XDA isnt the place. I just wanted to share my end result with you guys really. http://i1.minus.com/ibcjIiidyTMpHL.png

bpear96 said:
Thats cool.. that someone here would be happy that i switched to Ubuntu, and kinda wanted to discuss with others that switched . But i guess XDA isnt the place. I just wanted to share my end result with you guys really. http://i1.minus.com/ibcjIiidyTMpHL.png
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Great!

Gogeta said:
Great!
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If you don't care, or dont want to discuss on how it was switching for you (if you did switch) then you have no need to comment on this thread.
I dont care that you dont care

I would like to discuss.
Recently I upgraded to Windows 8 which is the most ****t* OS ever.
So I am thinking about changing to ubuntu but the only problem is I don't know if ubuntu can run all the windows softwares I am using at school
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lopman said:
I would like to discuss.
Recently I upgraded to Windows 8 which is the most ****t* OS ever.
So I am thinking about changing to ubuntu but the only problem is I don't know if ubuntu can run all the windows softwares I am using at school
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