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Starting fresh on my spare laptop. Anyone have any preferences between Debian or Ubuntu? I can't decide.
Also, as far as developing is concerned, is linux just linux or will one distro be better than the other?
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Ubuntu is for the easy Linux user, but also good for laptops. I say go the osx86 route, I've got Snow Leopard running Vanilla on my laptop.
yeah I've been using ubuntu for a while I was thinking about switching it up to debian, but theres no real reason. osx86 I tried that along time ago and it didnt install so i gave up, i didnt really want it anyhow, it's not very friendly for me i suppose i like having full control over it i guess. maybe I'll try it. lol i have an xp laptop, win7 laptop, ubuntu desktop, and xp desktop. the extra one i moved from xp to 7 but im going to move it to linux.
Osx86 has grown fast, to the point where it's just a couple of steps to install.
1.Get a boot CD
2.Grab a retail Snow Leopard distro(Doesn't have to be store bought if you get my drift...)
3.Install!
4.DSDT auto patcher
You're done!
Nawcom boot CD that auto detects your hardware and if you are capable of using vanilla or not(Basically Core, Core 2, i3, i5, i7 cpus can use vanilla). Doesn't patch your dsdt automatically though.
http://blog.nawcom.com/?p=446
DSDT auto patcher! You can generate your DSDT if it's available, or just create a generic one!
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=235523
red hat
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oh red hat, corporate america's linux. Nothing wrong with it, just their ideals. No offense souljaboy.
LOL ok ok vbetts maybe ill try some osx86 you're quite persuasive....
Try out FreeBSD? Not a bad one either.
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Nawcom boot CD that auto detects your hardware and if you are capable of using vanilla or not(Basically Core, Core 2, i3, i5, i7 cpus can use vanilla). s=&showtopic=235523[/url]
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I'm running 10.6.3 on a 4 year old Celeron M laptop. And I'm sure I had vanilla running at one point.
Then decided to try a sleep kernel. Which didn't work much...
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I'm running 10.6.3 on a 4 year old Celeron M laptop. And I'm sure I had vanilla running at one point.
Then decided to try a sleep kernel. Which didn't work much...
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Netburst might be able to run Vanilla, I'm not sure. Try out Legacy or Modbin for sleep.
Linux Mint is the way to go man! It's like Ubuntu just with lots and lots of improvements. The speed is also better I was amazed when I went from Ubuntu to Mint 10. It's just better
For the most "painless" version def get Ubuntu. But it is rather bloated - though easily remedied.
I like Debian a lot too - but it's not as simple as Ubuntu's stick the disc in and forget it. Also I love the updater - I have a "glorified phone charger" netbook that I keep updated and it runs pretty snappy considering the hardware is dog slow.
Ubuntu 10.10 hands down, netbook remix is nice, desktop version would also work fine on your lappy.
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ubuntu, i boot it using my flash memory
Install Gentoo.
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I installed ubuntu 10.10 but it bores me. I was thinking mint debian edition. But I may just go straight debian with gnome. I know my way around linux so troubleshooting issues when they come up isnt a problem. I have a virtual debian command line only server to stream my music through http runs well enough. Never really played with gentoo. lol I really think the real difference between linux is their GUI.
How about this, whoever can come up with the most rediculous/funniest reason why I should install it. I will install your suggested operating system...... GO!!!
The newest Ubuntu or BackTrack!
bertscookie said:
I installed ubuntu 10.10 but it bores me. I was thinking mint debian edition. But I may just go straight debian with gnome. I know my way around linux so troubleshooting issues when they come up isnt a problem. I have a virtual debian command line only server to stream my music through http runs well enough. Never really played with gentoo. lol I really think the real difference between linux is their GUI.
How about this, whoever can come up with the most rediculous/funniest reason why I should install it. I will install your suggested operating system...... GO!!!
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you can have stretchy windows while moving them
I bought 4gb of ram today for my old Toshiba with T2050 processor. From what I've read this appears to be a 32-bit processor. Here are the specs on this machine. - http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/t...=&moid=1468771
Am I just SOL on the extra gigabyte of ram that 32-bit windows can't see? Will xp 64-bit even run on this machine? What about Linux 64-bit?
It had 1gb of ram before and now it has 4gb but even if it only sees 3gb this is still a huge improvement.
I'm afraid if I get frustrated enough I'll probably end up at Best Buy with my credit card burning a hole in my pocket.
That processor is only 32bit. Not sure what would happen if you installed a 64bit OS, but my guess is it would be slower than with the 1gb of ram. And why XP 64-bit? Most of the programs wont even run on it. And what kind of ram is it? If it's DDR2 then you can probably sell it for about the same price that you bought it for when you get a new PC.
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That processor is only 32bit. Not sure what would happen if you installed a 64bit OS, but my guess is it would be slower than with the 1gb of ram. And why XP 64-bit? Most of the programs wont even run on it. And what kind of ram is it? If it's DDR2 then you can probably sell it for about the same price that you bought it for when you get a new PC.
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Yeah it's pc5300, ddr2. I just want to make the most out of this old-ass machine.
What Linux distro does everyone recommend? I did a little looking into it about a month ago and thoroughly confused myself.
If you never used linux then Ubuntu, Maybe you can try mint.
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If you never used linux then Ubuntu, Maybe you can try mint.
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I played with Wubi and couldn't figure out how to drop files on the desktop, although it would let me put shortcuts to programs.
That online quiz recommended either OpenSUSE or Mint.
I' d also recommend ubuntu, and you might want to install Gnome as a ui
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I' d also recommend ubuntu, and you might want to install Gnome as a ui
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Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out.
Gnome-Shell that is.
Code:
sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
I recommend everyone that's using Ubuntu to check out Webupd8. Plenty of tips, tweaks and guides for Ubuntu/Gnome.
The processor is x86, so a x64 OS won't boot on it, nor will the installation disc
Linux is a lot more better than windows, faster too
I'ld suggest trying out Ubuntu once, you'll feel the difference
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The processor is x86, so a x64 OS won't boot on it, nor will the installation disc
Linux is a lot more better than windows, faster too
I'ld suggest trying out Ubuntu once, you'll feel the difference
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Thanks. I find myself very drawn toward it, but worry about day to day compatibility. Do programs like SOC, LG Updater, etc, work on Linux? Am I forced to keep Windows on another partition just in case?
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Thanks. I find myself very drawn toward it, but worry about day to day compatibility. Do programs like SOC, LG Updater, etc, work on Linux? Am I forced to keep Windows on another partition just in case?
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Yes, unfortunately some don't, and that's why dual boot is a better option (games too)
How many here use linux as their main OS?
As an ahead, please, no OS bashing. I would just like to know how many of you use linux as your day to day OS. Me, I've used just about everything out there, but these days I've settled on Ubuntu. It has worked perfectly for me for years, so I stay with it. You?
I'm using Archlinux with Openbox as my default OS: fast, really fast!
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I'm using Archlinux with Openbox as my default OS: fast, really fast!
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Yeah, using just about any distro with openbox is usually fast.
PC Windows, Laptop Ubuntu
dual boot win7 64 bit and Ubuntu 64 bit
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dual boot win7 64 bit and Ubuntu 64 bit
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Same here but spend most of my time on Windows. Wine doesn't quite cut it yet.
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Unless I need PS or Reason I use Ubuntu....
I'm even liking Unity now
Not sure Ubuntu actually counts as Linux though to the hardcore folks....
I mainly use Ubuntu for almost everything. For gaming, I use Windows 7.
I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and trying to get used to Unity... I think they made big mistake by removing Classic desktop and forcing Unity. Probably I'll change distro soon.
Ubuntu is my main OS for years.
I used to use Kubuntu as my OS because I like the way it works, its really stable and fast and using less resources then Windows 7, I tried the recent Opensuse 12.1 version and Kubuntu version, they are both good.
But because I don't wish to dual boot and I need Windows 7 for playing games like cod I'm right now using Windows 7 and that is mainly because one application called QQ which doesnt have video chat in Linux and of course I got the resources for running a virtual Windows xp for that app, but I think its not worth it.
But if games and that app where working then I would use Linux as my main os, but I also have an legal license off Windows 7 home premium and I consider Windows 7 as an very good operating system so in fact I like using it because it works good.
But i'm for sure not going use Windows 8, right now I consider Windows 7 stable and fast ( I got an SSD ) but I guess if I didnt need use QQ that then when I quit gaming that I could use Linux, but its because my gf, I need to adjust to her and webQQ is troublesome with video chat.
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I think they made big mistake by removing Classic desktop and forcing Unity.
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Gnome classic is back with Ubuntu 12.04
Ubuntu 11.10 with Gnome Shell.
I use arch, windows just for play games here
Triple booting windows 8 consumer preview, mountain lion, and Ubuntu 12.04.
I use lion the most (for school) then windows for gaming, and Ubuntu when windows upsets me (which it hasn't lately) windows 8 is pretty nice
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Grr I still have a grind with wubi then a grub update. Have they fixed it?
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i posted this on the other topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23534574&postcount=28
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To me it wont matter at all, as i'm still forced to use Windows in the office, but on the personal level
all my PCs and Laptops are on LinuxMint or Ubuntu, or some other dedicated server versions of Debian or FreeBSD, like my home made load balancing router with pFsense, and FreeNAS
They work better if not waaaaaaaaaaaay better than Windows XP, Vista, 7 and most definitely 8
now the latest version of Ubuntu can even run on Android Phones, which makes it even better
there are also native phone version of Ubuntu as well
I've been using Linux since Win9x times, that when Linux was still mostly command lines and ugly X11 GUI
Also if you are a Gamer, YES, Linux does work with Windows Games, it's not plug and play easy as on Windows, but is getting there, just install Wine, or your favourite Emulator for whatever you need to get the game running.
You also got the free virtual box, so you can run technically anything you want in your Linux box
very few games lik only those annoying MMORPG that have security anti hacking protection, will require to be installed in a virtual Windows, as they are not able to compatible in Linux
Most games installs and plays just fine in Wine
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so feel free to ask
however, i must say, chances are you'll get help faster on the relevant distro forum, than here on XDA for Linux related questions
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i posted this on the other topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23534574&postcount=28
so feel free to ask
however, i must say, chances are you'll get help faster on the relevant distro forum, than here on XDA for Linux related questions
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Hmm.. sure .. anyways the solution has been given to me by GOogle
Not me... i dual boot windows 7 x64 and ubuntu
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Have you tried Linux? If you did, what distribution did you use?
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P.S: I do not use Linux as a host (Usually Guest on my Mac or Live USB on a normal laptop) my normal laptop is a Mac using Lion, but I still like Linux, and Windows too.
I try Ubuntu every time there's a new version. Pangolin is close but still not ready for me to use it as my daily. I don't have the patience or the willingness to tinker to get my computer working at 100%
Ubuntu love it best os in my opinion
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Linux Mint - mainly because the support forum is much better and more friendly than the Ubuntu one. And Clem + team put so much thought and effort into customising Ubuntu to the point where it is more user-focused.
For me Ubuntu have really fallen away the last few releases. If I want something easy to install I go with fedora otherwise its arch Linux
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I've been on mint for years now. I've tried other distros but mint just works. For people who are hesitant to try something new mint is a great transition from windows.
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I like Ubuntu and Mint, both. Both of them are nice, especially with Compiz on Mint (GNOME Classic (Not GNOME Shell)). Unity needs improvements, but nice. Compiz made me like Linux.
Yeah, when I was a computer geek(like five years ago),I used to use Ubuntu. It was way better than any distro or os, but today,I know nothing about computers, do I'm sticking with Windows.
And yeah, my phone runs Linux!
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My laptop is a bit of a relic, currently running a distro called 'crunchbang', nice and lightweight. Suggest it to anyone!
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I used OpenSUSE when I started using linux.. Now I use Fedora or Debian..
I use Fedora. It is working perfectly.
I tried ubunut v10 but I prefer Win 7.
Linux Mint is running in my desktop and Arch Linux alongside windows on the laptop, both of them are amazing
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Running Mint 9 on my HTPC/server and Mint 13 on my laptop. Earlier on I've had Red Hat, Ubuntu etc. Linux sure has come a long way in ease of use.
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Only played a little with Ubuntu, but it never worked on my pc, only the first boot...
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My laptop is a bit of a relic, currently running a distro called 'crunchbang', nice and lightweight. Suggest it to anyone!
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I know CrunchBang #! too!
Felimenta97 said:
Only played a little with Ubuntu, but it never worked on my pc, only the first boot...
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What happened to your laptop for refusing to boot into Ubuntu?
I cut my teeth on Mandrake 9.0, then moved onto Debian. Things lagged, which is fine because Debian is all about stability. Ubuntu came around, but I never cared for Gnome. Been a Kubuntu user since 2004.
Most distributions have a live CD or a live bootable image for a thumb drive.
Download ones you might like, give them a spin on your computer to see if the hardware will work, and go from there.
Ignore the window manager/desktop environment flame fests. Just find what will work well for yourself.
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Started with red hat, moved to fedora, suse, and ubuntu (all dual boot with lilo, later grub, with windows xp) then dual booted on my laptop with Vista & win 7. Now stuck at openSUSE& Windows 7.
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When I was right into computers I used to run Ubuntu, been tinkering with it since its inception as Warty Warthog.
Then three years ago I got a Mac lol
Now I just have a netbook with Windows 7 cause I am too busy to stuff around with computers anymore
Tinkered with openSUSE, Debian, Crunchbang, Xubuntu (probably my fave branch of Ubuntu) but now I can do most things I have to with my droid powered phone :good:
EDIT: A small update. I recently built a pc and I therefore have my laptop collecting dust. I was thinking I'd install Linux on it, but which distro could you recommend me?
Dualboot.
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If you don't mind your personal information being used for God knows what, constant crashes, slow performance, viruses , malware, having no rights and basically being a slave to Microsoft, then go ahead and use Windows, you deserve it.
Otherwise, use Linux
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Since I don't play anymore on this laptop (I have a PS3 for gaming), do you think I should install Linux or stay with W7? Is there a good Linux alternative to MS Word? (maybe Libre Office?) I'm using MS Word 2007 for a project work and would therefore like a good replacement.
My laptop is kinda slow, which means it would be more than adequate for Linux ^^
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Why not both?
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Why not both?
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Been thinking: Why?
I switched to Linux and never looked back
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when i was ten
When I was ten, I switched to Ubuntu 6, or 8 or something. I didn't understand how to use it and didn't install. This left me to believe that Linux sucked. I got a Mac at 13 cuz I was sick of bugs/ugliness etc on windows. Did not regret that. But then my friend said he had Linux on his PC and that it was solid. I gave it a try (now nearly 15 and able to use computers much better) and I loved it.
IMO Linux is able to do everything, yes everything better than windows or mac , combined . I suggest Ubuntu 12.10 (what I have ATM) as it is very use friendly. If your laptop is quite slow and you find it is too bad on Ubuntu, you can install different desktop environments like XCFE or LDE using the Debian based 'apt-get'
Seriously, I see no reason for windows, especially since steam is now under ha heavy make over to become Linux compatible.
Definitely download a distro and try it and see if you like it or not. You can always duel boot or not installed it at all
Edit: I also think fedora is good (especially if you dislike unity) and I have heard that Linux mint is nice (not used myself much).
Debian is IMO not so good compared to Ubuntu as it is like choosing between a plain pizza, or a pizza with ham, cheese, pineapple and a side order and drink. I'm hungry now :'(
So yeah... if you (or anyone else) want help, post here or pm me if u dont get a response.
I only installed Linux this year so know what being a n00b is like
Fallon9111 said:
When I was ten, I switched to Ubuntu 6, or 8 or something. I didn't understand how to use it and didn't install. This left me to believe that Linux sucked. I got a Mac at 13 cuz I was sick of bugs/ugliness etc on windows. Did not regret that. But then my friend said he had Linux on his PC and that it was solid. I gave it a try (now nearly 15 and able to use computers much better) and I loved it.
IMO Linux is able to do everything, yes everything better than windows or mac , combined . I suggest Ubuntu 12.10 (what I have ATM) as it is very use friendly. If your laptop is quite slow and you find it is too bad on Ubuntu, you can install different desktop environments like XCFE or LDE using the Debian based 'apt-get'
Seriously, I see no reason for windows, especially since steam is now under ha heavy make over to become Linux compatible.
Definitely download a distro and try it and see if you like it or not. You can always duel boot or not installed it at all
Edit: I also think fedora is good (especially if you dislike unity) and I have heard that Linux mint is nice (not used myself much).
Debian is IMO not so good compared to Ubuntu as it is like choosing between a plain pizza, or a pizza with ham, cheese, pineapple and a side order and drink. I'm hungry now :'(
So yeah... if you (or anyone else) want help, post here or pm me if u dont get a response.
I only installed Linux this year so know what being a n00b is like
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Wow...that's a lot of talking....
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Wow...that's a lot of talking....
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Wow, that was very little talking.....
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I've been using Linux for over 10 years. I don't program or anything like that. It does what I need, which isn't much, perfectly.
Just can't use phone OEM utilities.
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Dual-boot is the way to go. I use Ubuntu/Android on my netbook, OpenSuSE/WinXP on my big laptop, and Ubuntu/W7 on my desktop. Flexibility is a wonderful thing.
Backup important stuff, format your HDD, via win7 install.
Or, format, then install linux.
OR, format, install Win7, then install windows 8
@OP
Basically it boils down to what you use your computer for. If you only browse the web, do some word/excel work and play media, then you should definately try out a Linux distro. The popular ones come with all the neccessary stuff pre-installed and their usability out of the box is great.
However, if you're into photo/video/music editing and gaming, then you're probably better off staying with Windows, as the alternatives for e.g. Photoshop or After Effects are horrible and getting these apps to run on Linux is a nightmare.. much easier to just stick with Windows or, as some have suggested, dual boot.
Some other observations I've made from running Linux for a few years:
- Linux's security is much tighter and there's virtually no viruses/malware
- the need for maintanance is almost non-exsistant compared to Windows - no need for defragmenting, ram cleaners, registry cleaners etc..
- Linux usually runs better on older hardware than brand new stuff.. some new cool features can take time to implement
- you'll almost always have problems with certain hardware.. either the scrolling on the trackpad won't work, or your bluetooth dongle will be messed up, or the special keys on your keyboard won't be working.. there's always something that just won't work
With all that said, I personally don't use Linux anymore because I just don't have the wanted level of freedom while using it. Every day I want an application that does something specific, and while I can just download and run it under windows in 2 minutes, I have to jump through hoops to get the same thing done on Linux. I've learned how to keep my Windows optimized and safe, I just take it as normal and I enjoy "taking care" of it. Some people don't have time for messing about and want stuff to work out of the box. This is why I've installed Linux Mint on my mom's laptop 3 years ago and she absolutely loves it.
Dual boot. If you don't like linux, or you need your computer NOW and you don't have time to figure it out, then you could be stuck...
Speaking from experience, with a computer that currently has no bootable OS, messed up partitions, and a very crappy external hard drive that's making copying out my folders more difficult that it should.
If only I paid the same amount of attention to my computer as do my phone...
Edit: bootable as in installed, I'm running off Linux Mint v13 usb right now
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If you've never used linux before - you actually shouldn't replace W7.
And if you're really interested in discovering linux, you should first ask yourself some questions:
1. Can you do backups for your W7? (if you don't have any important files on your laptop - skip this)
2. Can you manage your disk partitions? (with gparted or acronis disk director, for instance)
3. Are you sure you can manage linux installation? (if you're going to install some human-distro like ubuntu or fedora - don't bother about it)
4. You can face some drivers problems after linux installation. Do you really want it?
5. Are you sure you can restore W7 after all?
If your answer for any of this questions is "no" - you shouldn't install linux. Yet.
Wipe HDD and install Linux Mint. There is no reason to keep W7 if you have PS3 for gaming...
Fallon9111 said:
When I was ten, I switched to Ubuntu 6, or 8 or something. I didn't understand how to use it and didn't install. This left me to believe that Linux sucked. I got a Mac at 13 cuz I was sick of bugs/ugliness etc on windows. Did not regret that. But then my friend said he had Linux on his PC and that it was solid. I gave it a try (now nearly 15 and able to use computers much better) and I loved it.
IMO Linux is able to do everything, yes everything better than windows or mac , combined . I suggest Ubuntu 12.10 (what I have ATM) as it is very use friendly. If your laptop is quite slow and you find it is too bad on Ubuntu, you can install different desktop environments like XCFE or LDE using the Debian based 'apt-get'
Seriously, I see no reason for windows, especially since steam is now under ha heavy make over to become Linux compatible.
Definitely download a distro and try it and see if you like it or not. You can always duel boot or not installed it at all
Edit: I also think fedora is good (especially if you dislike unity) and I have heard that Linux mint is nice (not used myself much).
Debian is IMO not so good compared to Ubuntu as it is like choosing between a plain pizza, or a pizza with ham, cheese, pineapple and a side order and drink. I'm hungry now :'(
So yeah... if you (or anyone else) want help, post here or pm me if u dont get a response.
I only installed Linux this year so know what being a n00b is like
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TL;DR: Linux is the best choice
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InfinityFTW said:
TL;DR: Linux is the best choice
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Lol, seems I wrote too much.
Basically @OP , Linux is awesome, Ubuntu good for begginer or pro
Dual boot if you aren't fully comfortable with scrapping windows (yet)
Are there any minimum requirements for dual boot using wubi? I had done it once on another computer and it caused "green stripes". Had to format it and reinstall windows.
<3 Linux
W7 for games only
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