Hi everyone. I have a galaxy s M190S made by ANYCALL. I am in a great trouble. I tried to flash clockworkmod recovery via odin and i just bricked my phone. Now it always power on in recovery mode showing some error just like CANNOT READ FROM /DBDATA etc. Also I am unable to do a factory reset. I cannot get into odin mode through three keys combination it shows red letter error instead of ODIN MODE DOWNLOADING. Kindly give me some pieces of advice so that i can recover my phone.
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Hi everyone. I have a galaxy s M190S made by ANYCALL. I am in a great trouble. I tried to flash clockworkmod recovery via odin and i just bricked my phone. Now it always power on in recovery mode showing some error just like CANNOT READ FROM /DBDATA etc. Also I am unable to do a factory reset. I cannot get into odin mode through three keys combination it shows red letter error instead of ODIN MODE DOWNLOADING. Kindly give me some pieces of advice so that i can recover my phone.
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1) Pull out Battery for a few min, and reinsert and try for download mode
2) Download M190S tegrak kernel http://pspmaster.tistory.com/attachment/[email protected], will give you recovery as well from here
3) Download the latest firmware from here http://pspmaster.tistory.com/78
you can try and flash the kernel, to see if it boots..if it does you can download tegrak kernel app from play store to use for rooting and lag fix
IF fails, Flash the M190S ROM and your problem should be solved
for more info on tegrak click my link on M110S and you have many how to articles about Korean versions
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1) Pull out Battery for a few min, and reinsert and try for download mode
2) Download M190S tegrak kernel http://pspmaster.tistory.com/attachment/[email protected], will give you recovery as well from here
3) Download the latest firmware from here http://pspmaster.tistory.com/78
you can try and flash the kernel, to see if it boots..if it does you can download tegrak kernel app from play store to use for rooting and lag fix
IF fails, Flash the M190S ROM and your problem should be solved
for more info on tegrak click my link on M110S and you have many how to articles about Korean versions
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hiii feelinggg desrted because i have also bricked my pone............so heres how it all started first off all i flashed tegrak kerenl aftrer that the phone boooted into the tegrak kernell menu[the thing that shows up] and from there i could not booot into system etc.....then i flashed the recovery attachmnet from your thread after that the splash screeb that showed the model galaxy hopppin changed and now it only shoes samsung any call.........plus i can also get into download mode by pressing home and powwer .......and also i flashed about 3 firmwares and all of them rsult in aa recovery boootloop........now what should i do .......plzzzz help
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hiii feelinggg desrted because i have also bricked my pone............so heres how it all started first off all i flashed tegrak kerenl aftrer that the phone boooted into the tegrak kernell menu[the thing that shows up] and from there i could not booot into system etc.....then i flashed the recovery attachmnet from your thread after that the splash screeb that showed the model galaxy hopppin changed and now it only shoes samsung any call.........plus i can also get into download mode by pressing home and powwer .......and also i flashed about 3 firmwares and all of them rsult in aa recovery boootloop........now what should i do .......plzzzz help
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yup already tried that doing that also results into stock recovery wih a msg showing verifying internal mmc block .... and then again stock recovery shows up with option to reboot factory reset and cache partition tried all three of them and still resulted in recovery ......now what????????
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yup already tried that doing that also results into stock recovery wih a msg showing verifying internal mmc block .... and then again stock recovery shows up with option to reboot factory reset and cache partition tried all three of them and still resulted in recovery ......now what????????
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I installed CWM through ODIN on my I9000 and booted into recovery mode through CWM and tried to flash two different ROMs but each time it hangs with the Semaphore flag and logo on the screen, after which it never boots and returns to the same screen. I can get it into download mode and I have reflashed a stock ROM and its back to normal.
Any guesses on how I can get around this? Thanks!
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I installed CWM through ODIN on my I9000 and booted into recovery mode through CWM and tried to flash two different ROMs but each time it hangs with the Semaphore flag and logo on the screen, after which it never boots and returns to the same screen. I can get it into download mode and I have reflashed a stock ROM and its back to normal.
Any guesses on how I can get around this? Thanks!
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some ICS/Jelly Bean ROMS need to be flashed twice or thrice..no harm in doing so . read this
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I've tried again, following the exact instructions. Install CWM, wipe the 3 data sources and install rom from sdcard. Within 2-3 seconds the phone reboots and arrives at the Semaphore screen. I've tried 3 times now and each time I have to reinstall a stock rom to get the phone alive again.
This depends on ROM you are flashing, you do not seem to tell us, what ROM you are flashing, you need to repeat the flashing in SD card , TWICE, and some may work only if ( after flashing) you go back into CWM recovery and flash again ..
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Sorry the rom is - pa_galaxysmtd-3.99-RC2-20130921
Unfortunately I cannot flash twice because I can't get into CWM once we hit the Semaphore screen. I can pull the battery and do volume down/home/power but it only takes me to downloading option, not recovery. So I'm unsure how I can flash twice without going to stock rom in between?
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Sorry the rom is - pa_galaxysmtd-3.99-RC2-20130921
Unfortunately I cannot flash twice because I can't get into CWM once we hit the Semaphore screen. I can pull the battery and do volume down/home/power but it only takes me to downloading option, not recovery. So I'm unsure how I can flash twice without going to stock rom in between?
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you can repeat flash, when you doing it the first time by just repeating the process and only rebooting after you have flashed it more than once and after that flash the gapps than reboot. or try for a stable version.
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thank you for that. I finally managed to install the rom and Google Apps, but its not picking up my sim card.
It does pick up the networks when I search for them but doesn't let me connect to any of them. The sim is definitely not the issue.
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thank you for that. I finally managed to install the rom and Google Apps, but its not picking up my sim card.
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What's the IMEI on the phone at this moment? (type *#06# to find it) IF you don't have IMEI you this to resolve
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it does have a imei showing. do I need to post it here?
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it does have a imei showing. do I need to post it here?
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If your phone status like this
or your IMEI is 0000 than you need to use your efs backup to resolve like this
[6] Problem:- lost my IMEI or changed on upgrading to JB CM 10
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Solution:- Reason is you had Jumped from GB to JB (should be on ICS before JB), so now you need to
1) Download Root Explorer, or Xplore, or any root browser from Play Store and use it to
2) Search you internal SD card for sdcard/backup/efs or any other backup you have for your efs
3) Copy nv_data.bin, nv_data.bin.md5 paste them (means overwrite existing files) into /efs in your Internal Phone memory
4) Fix permissions by Click on efs folder and keep it pressed to open the menu and click on permissions and set them to rw_r_r_ ( Owner = read & write - Group = read only and Others = Read only), after this Save using menu and exit using menu
5) Power down phone and reboot into recovery and wipe cache before rebooting phone to get back your original IMEI
or
you can start from the beginning.. go back to GB 2.36 (use a JVU ROM + Root, upgrade to ICS CM 9 and than to CM10
Solution for i9000 on JB:-Try not to jump from Gingerbread to Jellybean, as all upgrades should be done progressively. meaning you need to be on a GB 2.3.6> than into ICS and finally into JB.
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the imei matches the one printed on the phone, so i dont think thats an issue.
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thank you for that. I finally managed to install the rom and Google Apps, but its not picking up my sim card.
It does pick up the networks when I search for them but doesn't let me connect to any of them. The sim is definitely not the issue.
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IF you phone number is correct , if not use this method to correct it . If it still fails than you may need to flash another modem an try ..
you need to recall what modem version you used before for your region and search for similar modem from here
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Try to change your modem to JW4 or contact directly to SferaDev. I have this ROM without any problems, and it contains Semaphore by default
Could this be a bug in the PA-ROM?
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Sorry the rom is - pa_galaxysmtd-3.99-RC2-20130921
Unfortunately I cannot flash twice because I can't get into CWM once we hit the Semaphore screen. I can pull the battery and do volume down/home/power but it only takes me to downloading option, not recovery. So I'm unsure how I can flash twice without going to stock rom in between?
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I want to help a friend who has a problem with this phone.When I try to enter the bootloader stuck on this part
And when I go first time into recovery mode I see this text
How I managed to figure out in this phone there is nothing installed.I try to install some update that was on the memory card, but it did not work.Can someone help me what to do to solve this problem and can install any custom rom?
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what to do to solve this problem and can install any custom rom?
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[28] Problem:- ClockworkMod Recovery giving E:unknown volume for path [/cache/recovery/command]
Solution:- This is due to the Installed version of CWM on your Phone is incompatible/corrupt so change to another version of CWM
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But how I know which version of cwm is curently installed, and which version I need to find to fix the problem?Any sugestions?
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But how I know which version of cwm is curently installed, and which version I need to find to fix the problem?Any sugestions?
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Depends on the Kernel you had flashed before on the ROM you had, The version you have is 3.0.0.5, written on the image your posted. Here you must know and indicate what is your phone model. Galaxy S has 20 variants, ans their ROMs, kernels may not be compatible with each other. So what is your phone model?
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The phone is not mine,this is my best friend phone and I want to help him.When I pull out battery underneath is written GT-i9000.I don't know where else to look for information about phone model.
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The phone is not mine,this is my best friend phone and I want to help him.When I pull out battery underneath is written GT-i9000.I don't know where else to look for information about phone model.
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What ROM ? he had (gingerbread, ICS or Jbean) and what you want to flash? ( name of ROM and version)
EDIT: IF the phone is working, look in setting > about phone for all the details, you can screen shot and post here
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I think that he have GB.Phone is stuck on logo screen where is written Galaxy S and don't go further.I want to install custom rom if it's possible and restore phone to life.I do not know what's the first thing needed in order to start the whole process.Do I need to first install CWM and then custom rom or what?And which version of cwm?
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I think that he have GB.Phone is stuck on logo screen where is written Galaxy S and don't go further.I want to install custom rom if it's possible and restore phone to life.I do not know what's the first thing needed in order to start the whole process.Do I need to first install CWM and then custom rom or what?And which version of cwm?
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ok follow this guide step by step to what you want. first download and flash the gingerbread ROM + kernel to get phone working , than chose the ICS ROM, you like and finally to Jelly Bean, if that is what you want.
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I do first thing from the first post on the tutorial you give me "Only Rooting or Flashing Kernels or Modems"
I now download ICS rom from this
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592131
and hope the phone is work after I flash the rom.
NOTEhone is still stuck on the screen logo after I done with him in ODIN and when I go to recovery same thing as earlier.
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I do first thing from the first post on the tutorial you give me "Only Rooting or Flashing Kernels or Modems"
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wooh, Hold on! you flashed dbdata. rfs and hope it will work?, Step by step meant flash the gingerbread ROM with kernel as written above, the link is inside the upgrading or downgrading to gingerbread section.
Flashing a kernel alone would work too, but you are not sure what version of ROM, you really have on your phone.
IF you are positively sure you had a gingerbread ROM, than flash this to solve your problem
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Sorry for my impatient
I'm hardly try to help my friend and in that rush I make mistake.Curently download
i9000 JVU ROM with i9000 JVU CF ROOT Kernel
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from upgrading or downgrading to gingerbread and I hope that I manage to restore phone back.
EDIT:I did everything as it says in the tutorial, and when I finished the first part of the tutorial
1. Fire up Odin3 on your PC and ensure KIES is not running on your PC by killing (Kies.exe , KiesTrayAgent.exe, and KiesPDLR.exe) using Task Manager
2. Put the phone to the Download Mode by pressing (VolumeDown+Home+Power) buttons and connect the phone to your PC (your phone should be recognized)
3. Select PDA > CODE_I9000XXJVU_CL851880_REV03_user_low_ship.tar.m d5
4. Select PHONE > MODEM_I9000XXJVU_REV_00_CL1092175.tar.md5
5. Select CSC > GT-I9000-CSC-MULTI-OXAJVU.tar.md5
6. Select PIT > 512 PIT (If 'Re-Partition' is not checked under 'Option', check it)
7. Press the Start button Do not press anything else or interrupt it, wait for flashing process to complete and phone will reboot
after which you repeat steps one and two
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the phone goes in the recovery mode and there was fresh version of recovery but it still reported the some errors.
After that I did the last part of the tutorial but something is not right
3. now select PDA > CF-Root-XX_OXA_JVU_2.3.6-v4.3-CWM3RFS
4. press Start Button. Do not press anything else or interrupt it, wait for flashing process to complete and phone will reboot
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The problem lies in dbdata.rfs which I installed earlier,and can you help me how to fix my mistake?
Hello, my galaxy GT-i9000 phone wont boot anymore. I tried to install a custom rom on it wich i succeeded in. After a while i wanted to install diffrent one and tought that i could simply boot in recovery mode hit the wipe data/factory reset button and then apply update.zip. This was not the case as it corrupted the previous rom and did not install the new rom. I can still start my phone into ClockworkMod recovery and download mode. I tried to push a new rom on my SDcard whit adb push but this gives me /system/bin/sh: adb: not found. I'm kinda hoping on some kind of recovery tool that will allow me to push a diffrent rom on my phone.
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Hello, my galaxy GT-i9000 phone wont boot anymore. I tried to install a custom rom on it wich i succeeded in. After a while i wanted to install diffrent one and tought that i could simply boot in recovery mode hit the wipe data/factory reset button and then apply update.zip. This was not the case as it corrupted the previous rom and did not install the new rom. I can still start my phone into ClockworkMod recovery and download mode. I tried to push a new rom on my SDcard whit adb push but this gives me /system/bin/sh: adb: not found. I'm kinda hoping on some kind of recovery tool that will allow me to push a diffrent rom on my phone.
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In CWM you do this method to flash, to place the ROM you intend to flash in SD card you use mounts and storage, usb storage, to copy your .zip ROM and gapps to SD card
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Hey, thanks alot for the quick reply! i got my ROM working now. The Rom i downloaded and installed was Slimbean
(This one Slim-I9000-3.1.0-OFFICIAL )
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. There is just one problem. I cant connect to the internet (3G/2G). I did some research and i think i miss something called a ''baseband'' as it is labled unknown in the phone information. What file do i need to get and how do i install it?
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Hey, thanks alot for the quick reply! i got my ROM working now. The Rom i downloaded and installed was Slimbean . There is just one problem. I cant connect to the internet (3G/2G). I did some research and i think i miss something called a ''baseband'' as it is labled unknown in the phone information. What file do i need to get and how do i install it?
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most likely you lost your IMEI, caused by jumping from Gingerbread to Jelly bean look in My Android solutions (link below) for
6) Problem:- Lost my IMEI or changed on upgrading to JB CM 10
16) Problem:- No Network and Signal ( calls, sms and mobile Internet not working)
17) Problem:- No base Band or Unknown Baseband
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most likely you lost your IMEI, caused by jumping from Gingerbread to Jelly bean look in My Android solutions (link below) for
6) Problem:- Lost my IMEI or changed on upgrading to JB CM 10
16) Problem:- No Network and Signal ( calls, sms and mobile Internet not working)
17) Problem:- No base Band or Unknown Baseband
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Well i tried to solve it myself whit your tutorials but nothing seems to work. I flashed back to a stable stock rom (The JPU One in your post) I deleted and replaced the efs folder like 5 times from the correct efs file i downloaded somewhere on this forum as i did not make a backup of my original one. I cleared EFS useing Odin. It simply does not want to connect. Sometimes a 3G logo pops up but it never works.
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Well i tried to solve it myself whit your tutorials but nothing seems to work. I flashed back to a stable stock rom (The JPU One in your post) I deleted and replaced the efs folder like 5 times from the correct efs file i downloaded somewhere on this forum as i did not make a backup of my original one. I cleared EFS useing Odin. It simply does not want to connect. Sometimes a 3G logo pops up but it never works.
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Look at this
Final Solution:-
When NOTHING works and its going to drive you nuts, just walk down to your nearest Phone repair shop, find out how much they will charge for using their Riffbox/z3x/spt/octopus box to fix the IMEI, and it can be resolved in a few minutes when the problem is software related.
IF it is Hardware related than it could be due to base-band problem and may need an IC ( modem/baseband chip) replacement to resolve.
to verify do the following test
type *#06# , and IF you get message "imei null" or imei starts by 0049XXXX or 00000 it should be resolved by software .
but IF nothing is shown when you type *#06#, that is a hardware problem or look at attached picture below. .
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Hi,
I have a Galaxy S i9000 which fails to boot - it just between the Galaxy S logo and a blank screen every few seconds.
I can get into both Download mode and recover mode. Some time ago I rooted this phone and installed Gingerbread so I could unlock it, and it looks like I also installed ClockworkMod Recovery v3.0.0.5 , that's what comes up when I boot into recovery mode.
Unfortunately I don't have any saved backups that I can attempt to restore from.
Is it possible that I can load something onto the sdcard using a PC and then use the 'apply update from sdcard' or 'install zip from sdcard' option to get the phone back to life? If someone can point me to some instructions to read, that would be very helpful.
Hi,
when you can get into CWM-Recovery you can push ZIPs etc. to your phone ...
In the CWM-Recovery you have to mount the internal SD...that should be all i think...
six gun pete said:
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I have a Galaxy S i9000 which fails to boot - it just between the Galaxy S logo and a blank screen every few seconds.
I can get into both Download mode and recover mode. Some time ago I rooted this phone and installed Gingerbread so I could unlock it, and it looks like I also installed ClockworkMod Recovery v3.0.0.5 , that's what comes up when I boot into recovery mode.
Unfortunately I don't have any saved backups that I can attempt to restore from.
Is it possible that I can load something onto the sdcard using a PC and then use the 'apply update from sdcard' or 'install zip from sdcard' option to get the phone back to life? If someone can point me to some instructions to read, that would be very helpful.
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six gun pete said:
Is it possible that I can load something onto the sdcard using a PC and then use the 'apply update from sdcard' or 'install zip from sdcard' option to get the phone back to life? If someone can point me to some instructions to read, that would be very helpful.
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Look here on how to use CWM and here on how to get out of bootloop
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Unfortunately I don't have any saved backups that I can attempt to restore from.
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you cant do anything if dont have a backup.
only reflash by odin for solve this
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Thanks.
I tried to download the version of Odin and the ROM from that first link, but it seems to be impossible without agreeing to install a whole bunch of malware/crapware such as iLivid, Torch and a ton of worthless browser extensions.
Is it possible to get this stuff from somewhere else which isn't quite so intrusive?
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Pete
When you try the first link of xsenman in the thread you can find the version for odin to download i think without downloading any malware and so on ...
six gun pete said:
Thanks.
I tried to download the version of Odin and the ROM from that first link, but it seems to be impossible without agreeing to install a whole bunch of malware/crapware such as iLivid, Torch and a ton of worthless browser extensions.
Is it possible to get this stuff from somewhere else which isn't quite so intrusive?
Kind regards,
Pete
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seems to be impossible without agreeing to install a whole bunch of malware/crapware such as iLivid, Torch and a ton of worthless browser extensions.
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the trick is to click only the free download button again and again till your download begins, you will never be able to download, if you click the other download buttons (they have added all this buttons lately), as free upload sites like this purposely have them to confuse downloaders and take them to all sorts of crapware. Not that I like it myself, but this site allows above 100MB download at one go, compare to media fire which needs to be split up as such uploaded to it. like I said when I uploaded it a year ago, it never had this issues.
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When you try the first link of xsenman in the thread you can find the version for odin to download i think without downloading any malware and so on ...
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Thanks Freaky, I did manage to get Odin OK but was struggling with the ROMs.
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the trick is to click only the free download button again and again till your download begins, you will never be able to download , they have added all this buttons lately, if you click the other download buttons, as free upload sites like this purposely have them to confuse downloaders and take them to all sorts of crapware. Not that I like it myself, but this site allows above 100MB download at one go, compare to media fire which needs to be split up.
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It certainly confused me, so it worked
Thanks for your help with this. The solution I found was to download a cyanogen 10.1.3 zip file onto the Micro SD card via my PC, put that into the phone, do a recovery install using 'select zip file' from external_sd .
That allowed me to update the CWM installation, then re-run the installation and boot to the boot loader, so I at least have a working phone. Not sure whether I can live with cyanogenmod, but at least if anyone else searching finds this thread they'll see how it can be resolved without Odin or stock ROMS if CWM is present.
Thanks everyone for your help.
Great. Whne you "can live with CM" you can get it on with CM 10.2 actually as nightly-builds but for me it seems to be very stable ...:good::angel:
six gun pete said:
Thanks Freaky, I did manage to get Odin OK but was struggling with the ROMs.
It certainly confused me, so it worked
Thanks for your help with this. The solution I found was to download a cyanogen 10.1.3 zip file onto the Micro SD card via my PC, put that into the phone, do a recovery install using 'select zip file' from external_sd .
That allowed me to update the CWM installation, then re-run the installation and boot to the boot loader, so I at least have a working phone. Not sure whether I can live with cyanogenmod, but at least if anyone else searching finds this thread they'll see how it can be resolved without Odin or stock ROMS if CWM is present.
Thanks everyone for your help.
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Hi All,
I would like to please request some help here with my Galaxy S I9000...
So I was running Cyanogenmod 10.1, Android 4.2.2. All was good.
I rebooted into recovery.
I backed up my rom and data.
Wiped/factory reset, wiped cache, wiped Dalvik cache.
Tried to install a Cyanogenmod 7.2 ROM. Install process finished in about 20 seconds. This striked me as not normal.
installed GAPPS package. Again, installed quicker than ever.
rebooted, hoping for the best.,
Boot loop.
The way it goes:
Turn phone on -> shows samsung logo. Shows modified samsung logo with cyanogenmod logo below.
Then, I see a quick flash of something from Clockworkmod recovery, then it reboots. restarts.
Tried entering recovery, but didn't work.
Tried entering download mode, didnt work.
Tried several methods here, didn't work.
Please help, need my phone ASAP!!!
Thank you all in advance!
deanokidd95
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Tried entering recovery, but didn't work.
Tried entering download mode, didnt work.
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Try methods here But first power it down, remove battery, remove SIM card and Ext SD card and press and hold your power button for at least 30 seconds to a min, before reinserting battery and trying any solution.
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Cheers mate... Tried methods, but didn't work.
Would using a JIG work to get it into recovery?
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Cheers mate... Tried methods, but didn't work.
Would using a JIG work to get it into recovery?
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yup, when all else fails, JIG would be able to do it, which was also listed in the link I gave you earlier, you can even borrow one near you
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THANKS!!!
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yup, when all else fails, JIG would be able to do it, which was also listed in the link I gave you earlier, you can even borrow one near you.
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Cheers man, but I'm buying one off ebay today