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Hi all,
Now, i'm planning to buy myself a tablet,but I can't make my decision because I don't know which kind of tablet should I buy. An Android one or Apple's one?
I enjoy the entertainment that the iPad bring to me, but I also like the Android one since it gives me more freedom in using it.
Any opinions? welcome to speak
Ive got my eye on the Motorola XOOM.
With Google at the helm im sure it'll get the support it needs.
It also has HDMI-out on it which is a bonus
iPad2 all the way for tablets for now.
Lets see what Ice Cream Sandwich brings to the table.
If I had to pick an Android tablet, it'd be the Samsung Galaxy 10.1
aohus said:
iPad2 all the way for tablets for now.
Lets see what Ice Cream Sandwich brings to the table.
If I had to pick an Android tablet, it'd be the Samsung Galaxy 10.1
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Why would you buy a tablet that can't run flash? Im sure you'd be using the web browser on that big screen at some point :S
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Why would you buy a tablet that can't run flash? Im sure you'd be using the web browser on that big screen at some point :S
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Flash is barely an issue. Most websites have appropriated their websites for iPad compatibility.
As both a former XOOM user and current iPad2 owner, I rarely get any issues with lack of flash content. Thats just my personal use case though
XOOM is heavier, and subpar screen compared to iPad2, which are my main gripes. Sure the XOOM has higher resolution screen, but the display is definitely mediocre to that of the iPad2.
I have the ipad 1, BUT I would really buy a Samsung tablet now, just to taste a bit of both worlds. And yes you don't have to suffer a lot for the lack of flash, just not the case anymore.
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Flash is barely an issue. Most websites have appropriated their websites for iPad compatibility.
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If your happy with a dumbed down version of the site that's your choice.
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As both a former XOOM user and current iPad2 owner, I rarely get any issues with lack of flash content. Thats just my personal use case though
XOOM is heavier, and subpar screen compared to iPad2, which are my main gripes. Sure the XOOM has higher resolution screen, but the display is definitely mediocre to that of the iPad2.
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To me it comes down to functionality. Id be using the web browser the most which is why the ipad doesnt appeal to me.
Thanks for your opinions though its good to hear from someone whos owned both devices whereas ive neither got the xoom or the ipad
Still after a XOOM though.
I am having this same debate also. I am all about Android and have been looking at the XOOM for some time. I just recently got my hands on an IPAD 2 and it seems very well polished and it functions well. I just don't like being limited on customization. Another good tablet on the market is the Galaxy Tab and it has come a long way. I'm leaning towards a Galaxy tab now, I will have to watch some more reviews before I make the plunge.
If I had to buy right now it would have to be iPad 2 unfortunately because of the quality of apps.
However, I would wait for ICS and hope GTab 7.7" gets ICS if it's decent. But tech is not worth waiting for as you'd end up waiting for A then B is not far off but then C may be even better.
I would ask yourself if you prefer the Apple or Android ecosystem & go from there. If you prefer Apple's then get an iPad 2. If you prefer android, then get the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.
I was once an iPad 1 & iPhone user with tons of Apple apps but decided Android was for me & gave them all up. I don't regret my decision at all.
If you like widgets, go with Android. If you hate widgets, go with Apple. Wolf, Android, sheep, Apple. Flexibilty, Android, prisonlike restrictions, Apple.
I like Android.
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Neither OS has really matured well enough for a tablet environment.
Ipad is better then any other tablets because its smooth. Wish some android tablets are stable.
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z33dev33l said:
Neither OS has really matured well enough for a tablet environment.
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I refuse to feed the troll. But I'd take an HTC flyer any day.
Please lengthen your message to at least 10 charters
As KingFoxl said ipads are very restricted. As android you have the ability to make countless changes.
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I would use the Galaxy Tab 10.1 , even though I currently use the iPad 2 .
Sorry Apple , stuff just ain't the same without Steve Jobs .
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Android one for sure. Same as comparing iPhone with an Android phone. Complete freedom versus pretty much locked down
I cant live w/o Airplay, other than that Android.
ipad with the calling capabilities (as of galaxy tab 7) wud be the ideal tablet -- a big 10 inch iphone
I have the original iPad, have no problem with flash since I'm using skyfire, and I need to just press an extra button for the flash content to load. Also welcome to the world of HTML5. No one uses flash anymore.
As for Android tablets, never really played around, but I know the Xoom is really heavy since I played with that.
I really don't ever see this changing because google will never take control of their product. But over the past few weeks I have been noticing that the only phones people really know about are the iphone and samsung s3. Like if i tell people about what a nexus is and why it's better they just look at me crazy like I'm trying to pitch them and I'm the one out of touch.
Google releases a 300 dollar phone that is hard to order, on half the carriers,lacks storage and LTE and they this is going to work. It makes me sick that touchwiz is the face of android. I wonder how google feels about this.
I don't really care much what stupid people think my phone's awsome, wooohooo
n7'd from my n7
Google releases a 300 dollar phone that is hard to order, on half the carriers,lacks storage and LTE and they this is going to work. It makes me sick that touchwiz is the face of android. I wonder how google feels about this.
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Google is new to the hardware market. Sure, they sold already 4 Nexus devices, but the Nexus One, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus are developer / nerd / android lover devices and not a device for everyone like the Nexus 4.
Google made mistakes, though. Really bad mistaked. The ordering is bad, no 32 GB Nexus 4, Android 4.2 is bad and create weird issues. I hope a 4.2.1 update will come soon and fix the problems with my Nexus 4 (USB OTG, Random ANRs, Touchscreen Sensivity).
Samsung spent a ton on marketing. They deserve to get some fruit from their labors.
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Remember when HTC was the face of Android? Remember when Sense (not the Windows version) was first unveiled along with the HTC Hero? How about the Evo and it's massive (at the time) 4.3in screen? Samsung being in the spotlight now only pushes the other manufacturers to work harder on their new devices and marketing schemes. The other big Android companies will also get their time to shine at some point, but that's not what the Nexus line is about. The Nexus line is really built for Devs, people like us who frequent XDA, and for Google to set the standard for what OEMs should strive for.
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Nope.
Samsung have amazing build quality, some people don't like plastic but the build quality is second to none. The amount of sales and the few returns they have proves this and Apple don't choose Samsung to make the insides of their products because they suck.
Also TouchWiz is great, I don't see why people hate on it so much. Samsung make their phones easy to load new roms, they don't try to stop you from doing it like some. Also when I try to go back to stock Android after using TouchWiz.... I can't because stock Android, even 4.2 is missing so many amazing features. I mean the Note 2's Pen functionality and the PiP and multiple windows is worth TouchWiz alone.
Pointless thread - nothing to do with the Nexus 4
Should be in the Android forum
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About as much as I care that Microsoft is the face of the operating system market.
The general population can keep using what they want, there is always going to be power users who want to tweak and automate everything they can to work best for them.
I'll happily use my AOSP ROMs and Gentoo while the general population happily uses Touchwiz and Windows.
People need to stop saying that the Nexus line is for developers and geeks. That really hasn't been true for years now. That ended when carriers started selling Nexus branded phones in retail stores and online (pretty much since the Nexus S). The Galaxy Nexus was just some weird "Galaxy S II.5" phone offering the stock experience and the Nexus S was the precursor to the Galaxy S II.
This is the Nexus 4 General forum, for news, tips, guides, howtos, etc relating to LG & Google's Nexus 4.
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Helloooo XDA!
I got my Nexus 4 on Wednesday and here is my thought...
IT SUCKS.
(got ya)
Nah let me be honest. I'm in love! This phone is just amazing.
From the performance to screen and design just a simple WOW!. My friends on school loved it. Saying it was unique because well nobody has this phone as it isn't been sold in the Netherlands. Of course I feel special :laugh:
I haven't rooted it yet. Sadly don't know how to do that. I did download some apps, games and put some music on it. while the 16GB might not be a lot, for me it is enough!.
Camera quality is amazing for me. Seeing I come from a Samsung star I might not see the difference that people do see with a S3 vs Nexus 4.
Simply amazing!
After reading ur post, I get a feeling that it is written by me lol. I am exactly in the same boat. The place where I work, there are around 3000 employees and not even a SINGLE one has a nexus 4. Definitely feels very special to have the latest and greatest of Andriod. People envy me.. they have said that themselves. I simply LOVE this phone. Teh camera for me is awesome. I love it.
I agree with both of you really is a good phone possible the best so far and I've had most couple of Iphones 3g/4s and HTC desire hd which was OK and a moto defy brilliant but most of my friends and work mates have iphones which I got them on to they won't look at any thing else shame on them they think i weird lol. the nexus 4 on jelly bean vanilla is best is I've used up to now and quality of the phone is spot on can not fault.
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I'm sure some of you watched the keynote live today. I wasted 3.5 hours of my life watching that keynote. No new N4,N7, or N10. Not even another Nexus Q. But they did announce a galaxy s4 nexus which I could really care less about. Oh yeah, and no new android either. 4.3 or 5.0. Pretty dissapointed. Just pitting the info here on good ol' xda.
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Oh some people really do make me laugh.
You already have a Nexus 7 which is still an amazing and powerful device. It's running on the latest Android OS available and yet you think your time has been wasted?
What about the time which was spent by everyone at Google who put that event together? They spent all that time and effort for people like you to still moan about things.
What is the world coming to?
Also hangouts app not working on nexus 7
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Google said this was going to be developer focused, and lots of important news came out from that side.
The new Galaxy S4 Nexus edition is pretty big news, in terms of what it could mean for the future of Android phones.
I'd rather wait and get a significant upgrade rather than have a half-arsed product be pushed out just so they have something to announce at the I/O (à la Apple)
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Also hangouts app not working on nexus 7
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This.
Google, no Nexus 7v2, no 4.3. All no problem. But don't play silly on deciding which device gets Hangouts and which not.
There is still plenty of time left. Chill.
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I'm sure some of you watched the keynote live today. I wasted 3.5 hours of my life watching that keynote. No new N4,N7, or N10. Not even another Nexus Q. But they did announce a galaxy s4 nexus which I could really care less about. Oh yeah, and no new android either. 4.3 or 5.0. Pretty dissapointed. Just pitting the info here on good ol' xda.
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that blows. was looking forward to 4.3. This Google io was a lot more subdued
KidCarter93 said:
Oh some people really do make me laugh.
You already have a Nexus 7 which is still an amazing and powerful device. It's running on the latest Android OS available and yet you think your time has been wasted?
What about the time which was spent by everyone at Google who put that event together? They spent all that time and effort for people like you to still moan about things.
What is the world coming to?
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Yeah I love my n7 :c Ive just been waiting for so long to some sort of way to stop the senseless battery drain introduced with 4.2. Other than that I wasn't planning on upgrading anyways, but the io was still pretty dissapointing anyways :/ the pixel is cool though.
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TeamAlpha said:
Google said this was going to be developer focused, and lots of important news came out from that side.
The new Galaxy S4 Nexus edition is pretty big news, in terms of what it could mean for the future of Android phones.
I'd rather wait and get a significant upgrade rather than have a half-arsed product be pushed out just so they have something to announce at the I/O (à la Apple)
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All of what you say is true and respectable. But however a galaxy s4 with cyanogenmod is almost equivalent :/
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They probably want to have a separate event so that this news didn't get down played
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These type of rants really make me laugh.
I for one am happier that there is no new Nexus 7 or Nexus 4, because both of those devices still kick ass. Stop turning into such consumers. What you have is good enough. The day Google starts releasing the same device with a tiny upgrade with an S at the end of it, is when I'll leave for good.
4.2.2 does the job. Some people complain about lag but I've never had any. You're doing something wrong if you have terrible amounts of lag, or a faulty device. It's that simple. Also, if you're having problems with the device, such as with the battery and lag or whatever it may be, play around with it and fix it yourself. After all, that's why you bought a Nexus device, right?
The updates to Google Maps are massive and very important, as are the ones to Google Hangouts. Tons of work has gone into them. Learn to be a bit more appreciative. Even if some people did get what they wanted, they'd just likely want more two months later.
Please stop being ridiculous.
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Also hangouts app not working on nexus 7
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I'm sure it's just a temporary glitch. For now, get the apk from the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280184
N7.2 is needed to keep up with the performance of the N4. Now an N4 owner has settle for a tablet that is slower and lower PPI than the phone, or bump up to the N10 and accept the added bulk & weight.
Hoping for an N7.2 doesn't mean the N7.1 is not still a great device. What could be bad about getting an N7.2 with better specs for the same price as the N7.1?
I just wanted a new Android version (4.3, 4.2.3, whatever) so it would fix the issue with Nexus 4 wifi falling asleep and doesn't get notifications in time or able to answer wifi VoIP calls. It's a known issue since november 2012, and still not fixed in 4.2.2!
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42272
Well for me, I have a N7 but I will be probably be forced to hand it over at the end of the month.
So I'll be a new buyer. If the N7 isn't announced then I'll be forced to wait or buy last years tablet again. It has to be close because we all know Apple will update their mini this year.
I agree the N7 is a great device. I just don't want to spend $200ish on a tablet and a better one come out a month later for the same price.
Ahh I was really hoping. I even did my ritual Android dance before work today.
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I am just sick of my Nexus 7 being laggy. I really feel like 4.2 was some cobbled together kang of 4.1 that they beefed up with a ton of features and rushed it out to the nexus devices so they could have a new version of android for the nexus 4 and 10 announcement. Granted with my 4's dramatically better hardware, I don't notice any lag at all, but it killed my Nexus 7. I've tried several roms and kernels too and it's still laggy, worst when it's resyncing from sleep. Google now can be virtually unusable at times on it too, with my keyboard taking forever to appear and then the screen not registering my inputs on it.
I understand for fragmentation purposes it might be the right thing to focus on play store updates, and core google apps and services as well as developer tools to give everyone who buys an android device a great experience. But if they are done updating android for a while, they gotta at least fix 4.2. It's the buggiest version of android since honeycomb!
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I'm sure some of you watched the keynote live today. I wasted 3.5 hours of my life watching that keynote. No new N4,N7, or N10. Not even another Nexus Q. But they did announce a galaxy s4 nexus which I could really care less about. Oh yeah, and no new android either. 4.3 or 5.0. Pretty dissapointed. Just pitting the info here on good ol' xda.
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Yet.
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Cor-master said:
I am just sick of my Nexus 7 being laggy. I really feel like 4.2 was some cobbled together kang of 4.1 that they beefed up with a ton of features and rushed it out to the nexus devices so they could have a new version of android for the nexus 4 and 10 announcement. Granted with my 4's dramatically better hardware, I don't notice any lag at all, but it killed my Nexus 7. I've tried several roms and kernels too and it's still laggy, worst when it's resyncing from sleep. Google now can be virtually unusable at times on it too, with my keyboard taking forever to appear and then the screen not registering my inputs on it.
I understand for fragmentation purposes it might be the right thing to focus on play store updates, and core google apps and services as well as developer tools to give everyone who buys an android device a great experience. But if they are done updating android for a while, they gotta at least fix 4.2. It's the buggiest version of android since honeycomb!
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Have you tried any of the custom ROMs made for the Nexus 7? I've been extremely happy with SmoothROM.
KidCarter93 said:
Oh some people really do make me laugh.
You already have a Nexus 7 which is still an amazing and powerful device. It's running on the latest Android OS available and yet you think your time has been wasted?
What about the time which was spent by everyone at Google who put that event together? They spent all that time and effort for people like you to still moan about things.
What is the world coming to?
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Not for me. The nexus lags like hell with horrid gpu rendering. I wanted that updated spec nexus 7. Google io sucked this year. I assume we will get less android updates now to limit fragmentation. I think 4.3 was nothing but a rumor and they are at least working on key lime.
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Have you tried any of the custom ROMs made for the Nexus 7? I've been extremely happy with SmoothROM.
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All of the custom roms and.kernels have lag for me. This is my 2nd nexus 7 to. This thing needs a quad core + 2gb of ram.
Would everyone rather have Google be like Apple and introduce products MINOR changes to devices and throw on a "S" to the name or come out with new innovation? This years I/O was not a disappointment. Its not all about the "products".
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Android, even at 4.4.2 and the computing power of the Nexus 5, still can't compete with iOS for smoothness. Using a friend's iPhone 5 is a revelation. What with "project butter" and all that hype, continuous revision of the OS, and continuous improvement in the hardware, I would have expected iOS and Android to have been more comparable in performance by now. Eric Schmidt and the boys should carry an iPhone and use it some of the time, to see what they're up against.
My 16Gb Nexus 5 stock, unrooted, with relatively few apps, no music, no games, and a lot of free memory.
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Lol...
Team Nexus 5 sucks
I'm glad you found something that works better for you.
My whole family uses iPhones (of all flavors) and they are all exactly the same. Variety and choice is the beauty of Android.
I feel that Android has far surpassed iOS in so many ways. But to each his own.
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why is this thread here?
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Lol...
Team Nexus 5 sucks
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All you do everyday is search nexus 5 critical topics and write Lol,Move on man didn't like the phone buy another one!!!!
What's the point?
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All you do everyday is search nexus 5 critical topics and write Lol,Move on man didn't like the phone buy another one!!!!
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Lol @ op's post. I like my Nexus 5 minus the underpowered battery, weak antenna and plastic cheaply built compared to HTC One titanium
Team Nexus 5 sucks
My opinion: People who still complain about performance (as OP calls it "smoothness" ) on an android high end phone should either learn how to set up their device (no rooting required), or move on to the next platform. You never know, they might even allow you to change the wallpaper, hell yeah :good:
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Lol @ op's post. I like my Nexus 5 minus the underpowered battery, weak antenna and plastic cheaply built compared to HTC One titanium
Team Nexus 5 sucks
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if you dont like the nexus 5 get a Google Play Edition device HTC one
like with any product launch expect some issues.
I just came from an iPhone 4S, wife has the iPhone 5 and my roommates wife has the 5S. I honestly switched to the Nexus 5 because I wanted to try Android out without any bloatware, and I liked the screen size. As of right now I don't mind being out of the ecosystem with iMessaging, but who knows, maybe soon I will.
I'm enjoying rooting, installing CM11, and learning what I can do with Android. I love iOS, but the 3.5-4" screen size is old school now and I probably won't go back unless they update to a bigger size screen.
Last time I used Android was Jellybean on a Samsung Note 1, I bought it, switched to it and in a day switched back to the iPhone. I think KitKat is awesome, maybe I didn't play with the features of Jellybean, but I didn't know it can do what it does on my Nexus 5.
The smoothness on the iPhone is mainly due to slow animations(Apple made them slow on purpose), pseudo-multitasking(apps in memory are frozen after some time to prevent it from running in background), better optimization(I agree that Android needs better optimization) and a very simple and basic application grid(no widgets, etc)
Wait till art kicks into release. You'll be drooling over our smoothness
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I can honestly say I see more frame drops opening apps on my iPhone 5s than my Nexus 5..
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What's an "iPhone"?
My nexus 5 is smooooth and I am getting an awesome amount of standby time now with LTE/wifi on thanks to Franco and Cataclysm. to bad you aren't experiencing the same.
I detect some serious iFan butturt. Don't like the nexus 5? Sell it, save up for the rest of the year, and maybe you can buy an iPhone. I think anyone who knows what they're talking about prefers the highly customisable and open sourced Linux based Android, to the locked, blank, outdated and proprietary iOS. this is coming from someone who just ditched an iPad 4th gen for the new Nexus 7.
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Does the op think that people in the nexus 5 forum are going to agree as a majority, nah.
Join an iphone forum and post your opinion there, good point that someone made with the slow animation speed on ios, if you do the same on android it does give the same effect that apple want their users to have i believe its called the "ios feel" some ass like that.
Hmmm "Way inferior to ios" is ridiculous, why do i keep looking in the general section when all i see is donkey threads like this one.
A friend of mine who was coming from an iPhone 5 said his new N5 had some lags and frame skips, especially while opening the multitasking view. After I made him switch to ART he's not complaining anymore about smoothness, so try getting rid of Dalvik runtime, then head back here and post your (updated) comments
Where is the lag that people are talking about?! I had the 5S for a few days and using chrome on it was like using android 1.6. The whole os crashed way more than android and even safari had some lag to it.
Armando Ferreira did a video comparing 4.4 and ios7 and he saw the same thing.
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The smoothness on the iPhone is mainly due to slow animations(Apple made them slow on purpose), pseudo-multitasking(apps in memory are frozen after some time to prevent it from running in background), better optimization(I agree that Android needs better optimization) and a very simple and basic application grid(no widgets, etc)
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Ios7 actually has real multitasking now, so ill give them that. Instead of comparing android to ios all the time, I actually think that android needs to become like wp8 more. Even the lowest end windows phone can run great. The rest of the os is junk, but the core of it is pretty good fi you ask me.
Android 4.4.2 is already as smooth as iOS.