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SGS III + Galaxy Nexus

So i saw on 4chan (i know it's a bad source) that they are making 2 new phones with some pretty awesome specs..
News Article: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/1...eam-sandwich-as-2-4-and-galaxy-siii-revealed/
Mirror to Leaked Docs: http://tylerwatt12.com/samsung/nexus.htm

Nice story, but I doubt it's true . Why would Samsung go around and reveal something that's not their job to do (ICS and Nexus phone), and why would they talk about phone that should come out in august next year...
Don't know, little bit odd , but thanks for sharing....

Ugh
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the "Galaxy Nexus" is not a nexus phone! its a galaxy phone. trust me!
there are reasons why the nexus one isnt called HTC ONE NEXUS
or the nexus S not samsung s nexus.

WHY the Galaxy Nexus not a NEXUS phone is!
To all people thinking the Galaxy nexus is a nexus phone.
well no its not!
there i9s a reason why it never was a:
HTC ONE NEXUS
SAMSUNG S NEXUS.
plus a few facts:
the galaxy nexus was spotted running
2.4.1?
with a glassy blue green theme(doesnt that sound like touch wiz?)
no onscreen buttons like 3.0? the new screen size was deu to the on screen buttons right? well that was the most logical guess.
"s that he said the phone is running an Exynos processor clocked at 1.5GHz. We all know now that the next Nexus will run a TI OMAP chip"
(droid-life)
The CEO of Notion:
"Google will be releasing Ice Cream Sandwich in late October, OMAP devices will be the preferred platform (and receive the update before Tegra devices), and the Notion Ink will have the Adam updated by November."
even shows more that its probably not a nexus but a galaxy we are talking about here.
plus!
why would the galaxy III have better specs than the next nexus in such short release span?
there for.i say.
NO! its not a nexus phone.
but a galaxy phone!

I've been intending to comment on that rumor I read at phonedog. I didn't read your link but I was like, "yeah right" when they said the g3 was going to have 1080p at 60fps. That's the biggest crock of ****!
I'm no expert but considering how much data is being recorded at 30fps, to claim of double that rate is bs. I didn't do the math, but even if it were true, 32gb of storage would be eaten up in maybe 16 minutes or less. I'm thinking a lot less. Not only that, claiming a phone's hardware can handle the task is a joke too.

simple...
it all comes down to business
and as far as i can tell Nexus phones always hand technology a bit behind times packed, with new hardware for testing
is like a hybrid between new and old, but never all newest tech inside

AllGamer said:
simple...
it all comes down to business
and as far as i can tell Nexus phones always hand technology a bit behind times packed, with new hardware for testing
is like a hybrid between new and old, but never all newest tech inside
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Nexus one ..... was ahead of technology.
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Rem3Dy said:
Nexus one ..... was ahead of technology.
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This guy is right. The Nexus One set the bar for what we have now.
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Nexus Prime Wanted Features
So as many of us are busy speculating or patiently waiting for the Nexus Prime (or Galaxy Nexus), I thought it'd be a little bit fun to see what features (It can be non-feature breaking, but nice to have.) people would like to see on the next Nexus. I guess this is my way of killing time and counting down the days until I can get my hands on one myself.
My personal favourites would have to be a Notification LED, dedicated Camera button, and Samsung's (or Google's) BBM-alternative.
So, What's your mini/mega feature that you want to see in the next iteration?

It would be nice if it made me a coffee.

DDRFAN said:
So as many of us are busy speculating or patiently waiting for the Nexus Prime (or Galaxy Nexus), I thought it'd be a little bit fun to see what features (It can be non-feature breaking, but nice to have.) people would like to see on the next Nexus. I guess this is my way of killing time and counting down the days until I can get my hands on one myself.
My personal favourites would have to be a Notification LED, dedicated Camera button, and Samsung's (or Google's) BBM-alternative.
So, What's your mini/mega feature that you want to see in the next iteration?
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Highly doubt you'd Samsungs version of anything software wise on a Nexus phone, and that's fine.by me. I also doubt we will see a dedicated camera button because many people don't seem bothered by not having one(could be wrong here).
My biggest hope is that with all these variants that could be coming down the pipeline, that xda makes separate sections for each individual phone this go round.
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Jelly Bean / Butter

I have had my 7 now for a couple weeks and I am still in awe of how ,much the single fps across the os has impacted the overall feel of Jelly Bean. I believe it is the single most important change Google made to Android in this release, and might be the turning point for Android as a whole. I don't like Apple at all, but the one thing they had in android was the smooth factor. No longer.
Nexus 7 users, share your tablet with the people in your life, let them experience this Jelly Bean build. This is huge.
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My brother just got a N7 too! Haha! Next, I will try to convert my dad.
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We have 4 on our family. (I have one, my missus has one, my mother has one, so does hers). We are all overjoyed with them.
My mum is a technophobic, but totally loves it. I video chat a couple of times a week using Google Talk and she is stunned by it. I had to manually put flash and iPlayer on there (as BBC are being useless cretins as usual and forgot to tell someone that Flash was being end of lifed).

I love my N7 too, unfortunately my family are religious apple fanboys

Harry GT-S5830 said:
I love my N7 too, unfortunately my family are religious apple fanboys
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LOL same, and a lot of my friends, that think they're android fanboys but are still in love with android

I traded my samsung galaxy tab 7 plus for this. I'm so sick and tired of how sammy takes forever with their updates, and the only way for them to update their tablet is to release the Galaxy Tab 2 7Plus. Exactly the same, just with newer software.
This Nexus 7 seems to be a great device and I'm very much in awe with the performance of this device. I'm primarily using it for school, but it still gives me the horse power I need.

[Opinion] nexus 4 vs S4

the nexus 4 is a great device, and im sure the Galaxy S4 will be nice also.
I realize this is a Nexus 4 forum, but my question is this; is the s4 a worthy upgrade from the nexus 4?
please shout off below, and I will give thanks to those who deserve it.
and there is a poll up top
curtis
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I totally forgot about the HTC one XD
that device is also pretty slick (maybe) so also give opinions on that phone too maybe?
thanks!
curtis

By the time S4 becomes available the N4 will be over 6months+ old; this is a long time in phone tech these days.
For me the performance improvement isn't enough considering the time gap; just wait another few months for the real next gen.

Just ask yourself one question. Can you live without timely updates? Also, cyanogenmod devs are not going to be buying the s4. If I can find the source I will post it.
Edit: http://m.androidcentral.com/cm-developers-passing-samsung-galaxy-s4-should-you
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meangreenie said:
By the time S4 becomes available the N4 will be over 6months+ old; this is a long time in phone tech these days.
For me the performance improvement isn't enough considering the time gap; just wait another few months for the real next gen.
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I feel you may be right, the s4 specs are good BUT there not anything spectacular. if anything its a minor update (in my opinion) to the S3.
how would you see the HTC One?

rogerski1 said:
Just ask yourself one question. Can you live without timely updates? Also, cyanogenmod devs are not going to be buying the s4. If I can find the source I will post it.
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ya i read that the other day on google currents (I have android central, android police, cult of android, and a few others on my feed)
Its a shame, but these companies noot to make unlocked bootloaders and easy to root, rom and flash
I dont do rooting or anything, but i understand the frustration from all you rooters...as I was with my verizon galaxy nexus

I haven't even rooted my n4. I've never been happier with a device.
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if you like buggy stock ROM´s, even more buggier custom ROM´s, missing source code, no original development ... go for the S4
I´ll stick to my N4

harecurtis said:
I feel you may be right, the s4 specs are good BUT there not anything spectacular. if anything its a minor update (in my opinion) to the S3.
how would you see the HTC One?
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Agreed it's not worth it at all, I had the S3 and I am never going back to plastic. The only thing I would get is the One, and that's if it gets S-OFFed. Honestly, I am 100% happy with this phone, I'll wait for the next nexus before I even consider anything else.
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Honestly I my self am not impressed with the new changes to the s4(meaning most of the "new" features could have been a software update on the s3). I've owned the entire galaxy line accept the note family and just switched to a nexus 4. Samsungs got a lot of bug issue within there phones as well as hardware issues Samsung has really began to become the iPhone of the android world honestly I would wait to see what Google has in the works in there upcoming press conference before making any decisions then you have the three to choose from being the HTC one s4 and maybe a Nexus 5. Coming from a previous Samsung user and the experience I've had with there products I would not go back and for me personally as well nothing beats stock android and always getting an update weather your phone is 2 years old or 2 months old. Well that's my 2 cents take it or leave it and have a blessed day.
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Samsung needs to stop trying to re-invent the wheel. They are are adding too much crap to the phones in the form of Samsung made social media crap, media players and other proprietary software.
If they don't add clean simple features then people will lose interest. When I bought my S3 I was fumbling around trying to find out how most of the new features worked, only to find it cumbersome and counter-intuitive. What good are features if you never use them?
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[DISCUSSION] Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone
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N7 OTA updates?

Is it my imagination, or has the Nexus 7 gone the way of most Android devices? The development cycle is so tight that anything over a few months old gets cut loose and never sees another update. This seems like a rampant issue. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably never see another update either, and definitely will never see JB. Tablets seem worse than phones too. Someone correct me if I'm way off base here. I completely understand how this has happened, but I don't have to like it. And I wonder how consumers can influence this situation. What is worse, the Nexus 7 has not been superseded by another product yet, and still the updates seem to have completely stopped. I must say that Apple is somewhat better about supporting it's hardware longer too.

What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...

Pirateghost said:
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.

mntbighker said:
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Past history with non-nexus devices!! LOL
What are you going on about? Nexus devices get updates faster than any other devices....and longer support than other devices.
What color are the clouds in your world?
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mntbighker said:
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
In addition, just because bugs are identified and there may be a rumored fix with it, many good devs will continue to monitor their fix, test it, and see how it does; ensuring that the fix does not create a more bugs (in quantity and severity) than there were in a previous build.
Patience is a virtue. There's a reason why this saying is an aphorism.

Pirateghost said:
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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kj2112 said:
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:

mntbighker said:
Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Just....wow! Lol
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TheAltruistic said:
The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
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I think the Nexus "8" will be out by then and the 7 will be deemed too anemic to run the newer software. As I said, it was just an observation of a phenomenon with the hardware development cycle we have with Android. And yes, the situation is way worse with non-Nexus devices. My Sprint HTC One is pretty buggy and the phones generally seem to all have bugs that may eventually get fixed. But more often than not they just move on to the next big thing and you just have to live with the bugs until you replace the phone and get a whole new list of bugs. You can ROM the phone and sacrifice features along with different bugs of course. Consumer demand has shaped things such that there are never resources to really get existing devices locked down and bug free. There is no incentive for developers to work on existing devices, but always to develop for the next thing going out the door. Apparently there is a known bug in my HTC One that has to do with an incorrectly located file directory causing horrible battery issues. Weeks or months go by with no OTA to fix it.

Google wants every OEM to support devices for at least 18 months, so you can bet that nexus devices will get at least that and probably longer. I'm about 99% sure that the Nexus 7 will get key lime pie at least.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.

I definitely think you should sell your n7 and get one of those awesome no name tabs everyone loves!! I'm sure they will be updated frequently and quickly!! I think some already have key lime pie!!
Just my advice.
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:facepalm: :banghead:
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On top of there being nothing new in the world of android for the N7 to be updated to, I'm also curious on what "bugs" the op thinks need fixed?
I'm running latest rasbean on my phone and stock 4.2.2 on the 7 and have literally no bugs on either. Completely functional and stable (neither device has even been rebooted in almost 3 weeks).
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There are bugs, fixes and new features in almost every release: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Look at the release dates to determine if releases are frequent enough.
Sometimes preventing an OTA update to a Nexus 7 device can be the challenge. Lol!
(still running 4.1.2 on my N7)

I got a Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 RT Surface so I can experience obsolescence instead of updates. LOL
My two Nexus 7, one Grouper and one Tilapia, will be merrily updated to every new version of Android. I can't wait for more *fragmentation* with the next Android release.
Sorry gotta go run with the low information crowd, there is a protest nearby. ...

Thread is silly. Sorry OP.
Nexus One - Released with 2.1, EOL with 2.3.6 (2010 - 2011)
Nexus S - Released with 2.3, EOL with 4.1 (2010 - 2012)
Galaxy Nexus - Released with 4.0, still supported
Nexus 4 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Nexus 7 - Released with 4.1, still supported
Nexus 10 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Every device has made it through a year's worth at the very least, and that's starting with the Nexus One. At the time when the Nexus One was released, phone hardware was changing almost faster than it is now, and it still got quite a run of updates.
Please do some research before whining. The Nexus 7 hasn't seen an update as of now because there's no update to see.

Pirateghost said:
awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?

mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Bad idea if current information is anything to go by. Google doesn't really seem to be doing altogether much more to support these two devices than it does for most-- it'll send the builds of Android as appropriate to the OEMs but it'll be up to them to actually tune everything.

mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
No. The Google edition phones are not nexus devices.. At all.
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Pirateghost said:
Your problem there is. Verizon.
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Well, now I have done a complete 180. I have a Sprint HTC One from Ting.com. My bill is a fourth what it was with Verizon or AT&T and I rely mostly on WiFi/VOIP service. Too bad the HTC One is so terrible at holding onto a WiFi signal. I may have to switch back to a Samsung device if Sprint can't resolve this. Ting does support the Galaxy Nexus, among other Samsung phones.
Around here Verizon does have the best coverage BY FAR though.

KitKat still 'way inferior to iOS

Android, even at 4.4.2 and the computing power of the Nexus 5, still can't compete with iOS for smoothness. Using a friend's iPhone 5 is a revelation. What with "project butter" and all that hype, continuous revision of the OS, and continuous improvement in the hardware, I would have expected iOS and Android to have been more comparable in performance by now. Eric Schmidt and the boys should carry an iPhone and use it some of the time, to see what they're up against.
My 16Gb Nexus 5 stock, unrooted, with relatively few apps, no music, no games, and a lot of free memory.
ecdy

Lol...
Team Nexus 5 sucks

I'm glad you found something that works better for you.
My whole family uses iPhones (of all flavors) and they are all exactly the same. Variety and choice is the beauty of Android.
I feel that Android has far surpassed iOS in so many ways. But to each his own.
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why is this thread here?

dicecuber said:
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Team Nexus 5 sucks
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All you do everyday is search nexus 5 critical topics and write Lol,Move on man didn't like the phone buy another one!!!!

What's the point?

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All you do everyday is search nexus 5 critical topics and write Lol,Move on man didn't like the phone buy another one!!!!
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Lol @ op's post. I like my Nexus 5 minus the underpowered battery, weak antenna and plastic cheaply built compared to HTC One titanium
Team Nexus 5 sucks

My opinion: People who still complain about performance (as OP calls it "smoothness" ) on an android high end phone should either learn how to set up their device (no rooting required), or move on to the next platform. You never know, they might even allow you to change the wallpaper, hell yeah :good:

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Lol @ op's post. I like my Nexus 5 minus the underpowered battery, weak antenna and plastic cheaply built compared to HTC One titanium
Team Nexus 5 sucks
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if you dont like the nexus 5 get a Google Play Edition device HTC one
like with any product launch expect some issues.

I just came from an iPhone 4S, wife has the iPhone 5 and my roommates wife has the 5S. I honestly switched to the Nexus 5 because I wanted to try Android out without any bloatware, and I liked the screen size. As of right now I don't mind being out of the ecosystem with iMessaging, but who knows, maybe soon I will.
I'm enjoying rooting, installing CM11, and learning what I can do with Android. I love iOS, but the 3.5-4" screen size is old school now and I probably won't go back unless they update to a bigger size screen.
Last time I used Android was Jellybean on a Samsung Note 1, I bought it, switched to it and in a day switched back to the iPhone. I think KitKat is awesome, maybe I didn't play with the features of Jellybean, but I didn't know it can do what it does on my Nexus 5.

The smoothness on the iPhone is mainly due to slow animations(Apple made them slow on purpose), pseudo-multitasking(apps in memory are frozen after some time to prevent it from running in background), better optimization(I agree that Android needs better optimization) and a very simple and basic application grid(no widgets, etc)

Wait till art kicks into release. You'll be drooling over our smoothness
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I can honestly say I see more frame drops opening apps on my iPhone 5s than my Nexus 5..
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What's an "iPhone"?

My nexus 5 is smooooth and I am getting an awesome amount of standby time now with LTE/wifi on thanks to Franco and Cataclysm. to bad you aren't experiencing the same.

I detect some serious iFan butturt. Don't like the nexus 5? Sell it, save up for the rest of the year, and maybe you can buy an iPhone. I think anyone who knows what they're talking about prefers the highly customisable and open sourced Linux based Android, to the locked, blank, outdated and proprietary iOS. this is coming from someone who just ditched an iPad 4th gen for the new Nexus 7.
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Does the op think that people in the nexus 5 forum are going to agree as a majority, nah.
Join an iphone forum and post your opinion there, good point that someone made with the slow animation speed on ios, if you do the same on android it does give the same effect that apple want their users to have i believe its called the "ios feel" some ass like that.
Hmmm "Way inferior to ios" is ridiculous, why do i keep looking in the general section when all i see is donkey threads like this one.

A friend of mine who was coming from an iPhone 5 said his new N5 had some lags and frame skips, especially while opening the multitasking view. After I made him switch to ART he's not complaining anymore about smoothness, so try getting rid of Dalvik runtime, then head back here and post your (updated) comments

Where is the lag that people are talking about?! I had the 5S for a few days and using chrome on it was like using android 1.6. The whole os crashed way more than android and even safari had some lag to it.
Armando Ferreira did a video comparing 4.4 and ios7 and he saw the same thing.
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The smoothness on the iPhone is mainly due to slow animations(Apple made them slow on purpose), pseudo-multitasking(apps in memory are frozen after some time to prevent it from running in background), better optimization(I agree that Android needs better optimization) and a very simple and basic application grid(no widgets, etc)
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Ios7 actually has real multitasking now, so ill give them that. Instead of comparing android to ios all the time, I actually think that android needs to become like wp8 more. Even the lowest end windows phone can run great. The rest of the os is junk, but the core of it is pretty good fi you ask me.

Android 4.4.2 is already as smooth as iOS.