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dropped my kaiser - case and slide mechansism bork

yo
i dropped my kaiser this morning onto tarmac and buggered up the screen chassis and the sliding mechanism - anyone know where i can get these bits as replacement parts and how much they would cost?
cheers
fusi

slide mechanism
Go to www.cnn.cn. They have a good selection of spare parts. the entire slide mechanism is $39.95 USD. Whole new case is $79.99 USD. They are based in Hong Kong and ship all over the world. Parts show to be in stock on their website.
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
Use the link, it will take you to the Kaiser page on their website.
Cheers,

oh my god thankyou so much! now i just need to find some of the vario3 front buttons and ill be sorted!
cheers! you sir are made of win and legend!

yo had a look at that site - they dont look like htc oem casings to me :s the pictures show an extra button next to the power button and and back cover isnt the matt black you find on standard units - you sure theyre not cheap knock-offs?
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that pic gives you a bit of an idea - looks worse in real life, the metal front plate is buckled at the bottom of the screen and the buttons are all scraped - the side plastic housing has the silver paint ripped off it and the sliding mechanism is really loose now - i can push one side of it and itll move about 2-3mm up without the other side moving at all - i recall this being rather tight before i dropped it
im so kicking myself :'(

Yeah!! The TyTnII (and it is one you can tell by the front cam position) side thumbnail shows a COMM Manager button
It would mean the power button was in the wrong place?

It looks like pre-production parts? Kaiser's rear was glossy up to production release. Power button looks OK, but that's a different 2nd button for sure.
Not that this helps, but I had my big camera case on my shoulder and it somehow spun and unclipped my Kaiser in it's PDair flip case, off my hip and onto asphalt! I hear the mind-bending clatter of a $850 plastic toy bouncing.... magnet catch released..... front flap opened.... came to rest, face down..... Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.

RemE said:
Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.
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OH so good

Anyone know of a supplier of silicone cases for Kaisers? That would have limited damage and I am really nervous with mine as I have experienced a drop or two previously with my SP5 but come out unscathed due to a good silicone skin.
Cheers,
Joe

RemE said:
It looks like pre-production parts? Kaiser's rear was glossy up to production release. Power button looks OK, but that's a different 2nd button for sure.
Not that this helps, but I had my big camera case on my shoulder and it somehow spun and unclipped my Kaiser in it's PDair flip case, off my hip and onto asphalt! I hear the mind-bending clatter of a $850 plastic toy bouncing.... magnet catch released..... front flap opened.... came to rest, face down..... Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.
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LOL wow
glad yours survived! you lucky bugger
tbh im quite amased the damage tomine literally is only the casing - i did properly step on it with all my weight and it did slide along the tarmac *CRINGE* under my full weight (bit like a skateboard - it was really rough oldy knobly tarmac too)- lord knows how i missed cracking or scratching the screen - i reckon there was some divine intervention going on somewhere - god works in mysterious ways etc - maybe this phone is blessed
mind-bneding really is appropriate - i think i nearly lost conciousness lol

joebongo said:
Anyone know of a supplier of silicone cases for Kaisers? That would have limited damage and I am really nervous with mine as I have experienced a drop or two previously with my SP5 but come out unscathed due to a good silicone skin.
Cheers,
Joe
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yea thats a good idea - i really need to invest in a decent case - im only using this utterly _CRAP_ belt pouch that came with my vario3 at the moment (which is significantly crappier than the htc beltpouch)

my mini usb connection is in shambles I found ppc techs online and the part is only 25 can anyone point me to a guide or step by step (im hoping its not too hard)

Is a bit of play in the keyboard slider normal?
I recently dropped my MDA Vario III from a height of the seat of a chair onto a wooden floor. Everything works fine and there are no scratches or anything but I'm not sure if the keyboard is now a bit looser than it was. If I press on the top or bottom right hand corners of the screen it slides in a little. Is this normal or is it fairly tight unless you push both top and bottom at once? There's about a 1mm gap on the left hand side between screen and base and if I press the X button on the screen to close an app, the screen moves down under the pressure a bit. Can anyone with a pristine Tytn II tell me if that's normal or not? I have an accidental damage policy on the phone.
Cheers,
Ashley Emery

ashmont said:
I recently dropped my MDA Vario III from a height of the seat of a chair onto a wooden floor. Everything works fine and there are no scratches or anything but I'm not sure if the keyboard is now a bit looser than it was. If I press on the top or bottom right hand corners of the screen it slides in a little. Is this normal or is it fairly tight unless you push both top and bottom at once?
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Nothing to worry about, this is normal. If you try to slide it by pushing at the very top or bottom (one corner only) it slides in a little. You can slide it out that way, but it feels less smooth than normal. To slide it properly you'll need to push a bit closer to the centre, like you'd normally do with your thumb. This way you get a nice smooth sliding action.
ashmont said:
There's about a 1mm gap on the left hand side between screen and base and if I press the X button on the screen to close an app, the screen moves down under the pressure a bit. Can anyone with a pristine Tytn II tell me if that's normal or not? I have an accidental damage policy on the phone.
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I think 1mm is a bit too much. Your screen may have been dislocated because of the drop... If you look closely at the surface of the touch screen you'll notice that every time you push on it with the stylus the screen surface "bends" slightly. This is normal. But if the entire screen assembly/frame moves and goes in as you push it, then it may have been damaged and become loose. Perhaps you can try another Kaiser in a local shop and compare.

The Speaker on my Captivate stopped working =\

The other day, I noticed my phone stopped ringing, but was still vibrating. I did everything that I could to try to get the phone to play sound through the external speaker, but I got nothing. I eventually did the ODIN 1 click to restore and I'm still getting no sound. I took the phone apart to check to see if the speaker cable was loose, but everything is in tact...
Does anyone know what Samsung support is like? I loved being able to take my iPhone into any Apple store to get it swapped out for any issues. Is it the same with the Captivate and any AT&T store? I bought the phone from Best Buy.

How long has it been since you got the phone? Since you bought it from best buy I'm guessing you should take it there first if anywhere. They might swap you for a new one within 30 days of the purchase, but that's just a general warranty dealy that may not apply to phones. In any case I'd hit best buy first, because unless you bought it from the at&t store, I'm not sure If they'd help you that much as far as replacements go.
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take off the battery cover and press down on the speaker.

Best buy will replace the phone within the 30 day buyers remorse period.
After that you have to go through AT&T Warranty dept (not the store). They will advance you a refurb phone, and give you stuff to send back.
On that note hopefully you are within 30 days so you get a brand new phone from BB.

I just had this happen to me for the first time today, and pushing hard on the speaker fixes it for me, too. For now. Not a good sign. I think today is my 29th day...gotta make a quick decision. Time to read up on restoring to factory default...I've rooted and lagfixed this guy.

Tinyboss said:
I just had this happen to me for the first time today, and pushing hard on the speaker fixes it for me, too. For now. Not a good sign. I think today is my 29th day...gotta make a quick decision. Time to read up on restoring to factory default...I've rooted and lagfixed this guy.
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Just do the one click recovery thing on it and exchange it, it's only gonna get worse.

i've got a replacement captivate now, but my old one did that once. no sound at all. i rebooted and it came back though.

Same problem
I am having exactly the same problem does anyone know how to fix it? :S i root it yesterday and tried the lag fix thingy.

I had the same problem. It happened on the night of the 29th day of owning the phone, the next day I took it to the closest AT&T Warranty Exchange center (or whatever they call it) and got a new phone.

I had this happen to me a few weeks ago, lucky for me it had only been like two weeks since I had bought the phone. I got it from At&t and just went back there and they gave me a new one. Does anyone know what causes this?

Fixed
I had the same problem...had tried the Odin One-Click restore, tried restoring, and several other things.
Do what VZSpyder says above...remove the battery cover and press down on the speaker. It immediately started working.

<<-- also a victim of the speaker issue. Pressing down on it has worked for about a month now. But the whole issue is a sign of larger problems I feel plague this handset.
I learned the hard way not to trust this thing as an alarm clock when the speaker glitch started showing itself.
The Samsung captivate has been by far the most problem prone phone or PDA I have had in my possession since 2002.
Actually, I haven't found any activity I can truly trust this phone to perform. It seems to randomly be unable to fulfill every task it is theoretically capable of.

Solutions to Captivate Speaker Issue
Ok, so I had my Samsung Captivate speaker cut out entirely last night and was, needless to say, very disappointed. However, I still believe it is a good phone, I cling to this notion despite the ribbing I took from my friends when the speaker cut out during a YouTube video. Grrrr... Anyway, and more to the point, what follows is my fix.
First, I pressed firmly on the speaker as suggested by many bloggers and the speaker started working again. Hooray! However, like many Captivate owners, I find this temporary fix, "unacceptable on principle alone." Ever the tinkerer and problem-solver, I thought there must be a low-tech solution to this issue as it appears to be related to the small 16mm x 5mm speaker unit’s unseen electronic contacts.
I thought: “If only there were a way to provide constant gentle pressure to the speaker unit without interfering with its performance or voiding the phone’s warranty, gentle but firm pressure that would stabilize the speaker unit and perhaps add a level of protection from vibration.” Here is what I came up with and I believe that it is quite possibly the lowest cost solution ever stumbled upon by a mere mortal.
I took one small "3M Command™ Strip," of the 16mm width variety associated with 3M's wonderful "Damage-Free Hanging Wall Solution" collection of devices. At one end of each Command™ Strip there is a 5mm section of the strip that is sticky on one side, the so-called “wall-side,” while the other side is adhesive free. I cut this end off producing a 5mm wide and 16mm long strip which has friendly adhesive only on one side. I then cut that strip to produce one 2mm wide and one 3mm wide strip exactly 16mm long.
Since the speaker unit is about 16mm long and 10mm wide, I then applied the 2mm x 16mm strip at the outermost boundary of the top of the speaker unit (closest to the camera lens) and the 3mm x 16mm strip at the outermost boundary at the bottom of the unit (closest to the battery). This seems to leave the tiny speaker grill, roughly 5mm wide, unimpeded and once the metal cover is put back in place it could, in theory, provide enough gentle pressure on the speaker unit to stabilize it and perhaps prevent a loss of electrical contact in the event of vibration and associated shifting or, God forbid, a small drop.

Stupid Speakers...
I have a similar problem with my Captivate's sound. Randomly, the sound will drop to almost nothing, though it is still audible if you put it right up to your ear.... Just barely.
It seems to "fix" itself if I gently tap the phone or drop it on a table or something... Could this be something similar? Perhaps electrical connections not being seated firmly?

it IS an electrical connection not sitting correctly.
press firmly on the left area beside the grill.
or take back for warranty.
if you dont have warranty, open it up press the connection back down and apply a peice of scotch tape over it.

Replacement doesn't help. I've got a new speaker put in by samsung .and 2days later. Same thing. I just havea small piece of paper behind the back plate to keep pressure on it.works well
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I had the same thing happen to me. I just took it back and got another one. A little tip for those that don't like this or any other phone for that mater.
If you phone is still under warranty call/take it in 3 times. After 3 times you can request a different phone. Just be sure to pick one that is atleast as good or better.
I have used this method to get pseudo free upgrades for years now.

TRusselo said:
it IS an electrical connection not sitting correctly.
press firmly on the left area beside the grill.
or take back for warranty.
if you dont have warranty, open it up press the connection back down and apply a peice of scotch tape over it.
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Thanks. I'll try that asap.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate

Bren Dekura said:
Thanks. I'll try that asap.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate
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What I did was follow this instructions:
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/samsung-captivate-at-t-samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/456848?seq=1
And then lifted the connection enclosed in red in the picture upward.
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Well? Managed to fix it? I do not quite understand where to stick tape, someone tell me?

NEW FIX for screen separation issue! (tested & working by most members already)

originally made this in the original screen fix thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29363298&postcount=638
randroid123 said:
... I'll probably just forget about it. I'm glad that this fix is working for everyone though and I definitely think it deserves it's own thread for those that don't feel like digging through 75 pages of potential fixes
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Making this, detailed step-by-step, for those who don't want to dig thru that thread (Hopefully I'm not violating any rules. If so, Mods please replace my original post with this one)
ok I think I've discover the cause of the lift.
Got a replacement due to screen lift and guess what the new one had a slight lift on the lower left.
I figure must be a loose screw, it's not as bad as the old one where the whole left side bulged out.
So I open it and found all the screws to be snug. So I unscrewed the lower left, thinking it's too tight and that's where I discover the cause.
It's not that the screws are too loose, it's that there isn't enough space between the frame & the glass. So the tighter you screw it in, the further you're pushing the screen out, causing the lift.
Here's the simple solution I came up with.
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You'll need the following:
Nexus 7 with back cover removed
Pill Blister Pack (Allergy pills from walmart shown)
Small screwdrivers
Scissors and/or knife
Sewing Needle (not pictured)
needle nose pliers OPTIONAL (for those with thick fingers)
First you need to make a hole in the blister for the screw to go thru.
Here I'm using a sewing machine like a drill press to create my hole.
Next, cut out a rectangle and use your small screwdriver (Bigger than the needle, but smaller than the screw)
This will make the hole bigger for the screw to fit. While blister is still on screwdriver, use your knife and run it around the excess plastic created by the screwdriver.
Remove the blister and trim the corners so that it'll fit in the round frame
Remove the screw from the frame and slide the blister in between the frame
Screw the screw back snug, DON'T OVER TORQUE IT!
Right away the screen lift is gone where the blister is installed. Repeat for each screw where the screen is lifting up.
Cut away the excess so you can put the cover back on
Don't cut it flush to the frame, leave a little so you can grab it and remove it if you need to.
OPTIONAL - use a flathead to push that little bit down to eliminate any chance of obstructing the back cover.
Snap the back cover back on and enjoy your flush screen.
depending on how much lift you have, you might have to use 2 or more to fill the gap. But beware, the more you add the thicker the frame will be and you might run into issues with the back cover not fitting snug.

Looks interesting, might give this a whirl later.

ya!
After receiving my replacement today only to find out it had the same problem I tried this and so far so good! I hope it stays! Thank you for this!

Awesome job :good:
Update: Failed. Spent Hour trying this. Keeps coming back just putting the case back on. Ill try again on Monday. Used same thickness plastic, then tried thinner, then tried IDE Floppy Cable (ASUS brand haha).
I am sending this back anyways. Here is my before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jDIgiWFPgc
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Tried it with 1 on top. 2 on top. 2 on bottom (Pictured below). All 4.

I'll confirm this is still working 24 hours later and feels more solid than it did when I first took It out of the box. Thank you so much! I started the RMA process and received the links to order my replacement when I read they hold another $225 from your account until they receive the original back and determine I caused no damage. You saved me a lot of time/hassle/and money being held from me for at least 1-2 weeks.
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Yes thank you man, I tried it when you first posted it yesterday, I can vouch for the fix in this thread as i did the previous one, so happy that it is working for me and several others, it is well worth the 10-20 minutes to perform the fix.

I wish this would work on mine, but my problem is clearly related to a bad adhesive job. I'm almost tempted to re-glue it myself considering there is nothing else wrong with the thing but I'll give Google one more chance to send me a perfect one.

How about a donation link? I'd like to buy you a beer or 2 for your fix.

Wonderful job with the pictures man, they really helped. I can confirm that this works perfect for me too. I just did not but the tablet immediately feels better. No squishyness at all. With the previous fix (tightening the screws) the screen still felt squishy. Nothing now. It feels just as sturdy as the right hand side.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I wish this would work on mine, but my problem is clearly related to a bad adhesive job. I'm almost tempted to re-glue it myself considering there is nothing else wrong with the thing but I'll give Google one more chance to send me a perfect one.
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I initially thought mine may have been adhesive related.. but turns out after this fix, it really is not.
Edit: id highly suggest giving this a try, it isnt difficult, probably cannot be detected as "user modification" if you remove the makeshift washers. If you dont want to that's your call, but i think the problem is still fixable with this method.

acroanidd said:
I initially thought mine may have been adhesive related.. but turns out after this fix, it really is not.
Edit: id highly suggest giving this a try, it isnt difficult, probably cannot be detected as "user modification" if you remove the makeshift washers. If you dont want to that's your call, but i think the problem is still fixable with this method.
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I dunno man, I can actually see underneath the glass on mine, that's how bad it is. I might give this a shot while I'm waiting for my replacement but I really don't expect it to do any good. I am happy for everybody who is finding success with this, just don't see myself being one of those lucky people.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I dunno man, I can actually see underneath the glass on mine, that's how bad it is. I might give this a shot while I'm waiting for my replacement but I really don't expect it to do any good. I am happy for everybody who is finding success with this, just don't see myself being one of those lucky people.
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I really would give this a shot...I'm convinced the issue is not adhesive related. My tab doesn't actually have a screen lift issue... it has been making a crunching sound that i discovered is actually just the black tape/insulation that the little black foam piece is glued to. If you remove the back cover and just fiddle with that black insulation you should hear the crunching i described. I am 90% sure that the crunching sound people are reporting is really not going to affect your devices integrity at all. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that one.

So far so good. Let's see whether it stays that way or not. The left side feel solid now
Thanks for the fix and the photos.
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I just opened up my buddy's N7 with him, and check this out. It looks like the N7 already has some type of circular washers in this spot. OP, and those of you who have done this - did your N7s have these circular washers as well, or was that space totally hollow? I couldn't tell from your pictures. I've attached pictures so you can see what I'm talking about. It doesn't look like there's room in here to add the blister pack washers you guys are talking about, unless I really have to struggle to shove them in. Is it possible some N7s were missing these washers?

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I just opened up my buddy's N7 with him, and check this out. It looks like the N7 already has some type of circular washers in this spot. OP, and those of you who have done this - did your N7s have these circular washers as well, or was that space totally hollow? I couldn't tell from your pictures. I've attached pictures so you can see what I'm talking about. It doesn't look like there's room in here to add the blister pack washers you guys are talking about, unless I really have to struggle to shove them in. Is it possible some N7s were missing these washers?
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No, those were there on all of them. Those do not come out as far as i can tell. The blister washer goes in between the black round part and the back plate where the screw enters. Its snug but it should be, this will allow you to snug up the screws and alleviate the pressure on the screen. People seem to forget that only adhesive would not cause glass to bend, it would just sit loose but not protrude upward without a force behind it.

I just did what op did and everything is working fine. Fantastic work!
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You, sir, are brilliant. I just did the fix and it seems to be holding well. I'll see how it is tomorrow but the logic behind it seems solid.
Thank you for sharing!

Performed the fix, and it seems to have fixed the problem on my friend's N7. The OP is smarter than stinking Asus! Bravo.
One minor issue on the N7 I did this on is the back doesn't seem to be completely flush with the bezel now in the area with the washers, but this beats the screen lifting.

Have people allowed enough time after performing this and rechecked their screens? Everyone was saying retorquing the screws was the fix, and it initially looked like it did help, but eventually the screen came back up.

Thanks for the fix, but to be honest all this seems to be ridiculous, there should be no defect in a product you had to pay good money for. I'm hoping a fix comes soon out of the box.

My permanent fix for screen lifting

As many of us, I got my tablet C8O series with the missing screws. Asus decided to remove 2 screws instead of creating a proper fix, which is crazy in my books. For those having a screen lift (even minor like I did), you can fix it very easy with few parts you can get at any phone repair shop. By "permanent fix" I mean this is my alternative to keeping on exchanging the tablet until I find a so called "flawless" one.
Important: Be aware that on the new tablets Asus started to place an adhesive band on the speakers, probably to reduce vibration. I strongly recommend you to open the case from the top and work your way down on both sides, leaving at the end the bottom and slowly opening the case to avoid damaging the adhesive speaker band.
Now, on with the actual fix. First, go get yourself the 2 missing screws and 4 stainless spacers. I went to the nearest phone repair shop and the guy working there charged me 1$ for the 2 screws and 4 spacers... I gave him 5$ for his trouble.
This is how the spacers look:
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The spacers are needed because the stock screws are too long, they also produce better friction between the screw and contact area. Originally, I tried to place the spacers between the inner brackets. That made the case not closing properly and snapped a plastic tab, so I placed them on top instead:
You will work with the 4 screws displayed above, leave alone the ones at tablet extremities. Install the spacers and screws, without having them tighten. This is where the tricky part is for actual fix. In order to completely eliminate the lift, you need to press down and towards outer side the bezel. Once the bezel is warped a little, you can tighten the screw:
The picture above shows the first attempt I had with the bezel warping. If you just press it down like I did, it will create a nasty space between the screen and bezel. Instead, I placed the tablet vertically on the table with the right side against my chest and using 2 fingers I applied pressure with one finger to the bezel to create contact with the screen, while pulling it towards outside with the other finger. You are actually rotating the bezel towards outside, while pressing it against the screen to maintain proper contact. While warping the bezel, tighten the screw. Then, repeat the same process with the next screw until all 4 screws are tight to a medium torque (don't over tighten them). Before you place back the cover, verify that the bezel has proper contact with the screen without weird spaces.
After all screws are tighten, place at a 45 degrees angle the cover to fit perfect on the worked side making sure everything aligns properly. Then continue pressing down the cover counterclockwise from the worked area to snap it into place, ending with the bottom area so the speaker adhesive band glues back properly. In this way you will also avoid snapping the central plastic tab.
Before (screen lift visible on the rear):
After:
The lift is completely gone. However, you can see a very tiny lift at the bottom of the screen near the unlock icon. That is because I did not warped enough the bezel in that area. When I will open next time the case I will fix it in 2 seconds, for now I'm very satisfied with the results.
September 19th, 2012 Update:
I got my replacement tablet today. Is a C8O and has the usual minor lift as well some bezel spacing:
I was able to fix everything easy, using the same warping technique. The screen is impeccable, no more flushed colors.

Looks good, but just a warning to anyone trying this:
To the right of where your finger is in the third photo, where the black ribbon cable is, there's a tiny slot for a tiny plastic tab on the back cover. You can see the slot very clearly in the second photo. This plastic tab takes a lot of stress because of the area it's in; there's the screen on one side trying to separate from the rim, and the screws on the other pulling the frame in the opposite direction. When you close the back cover, this little tab takes all the strain of this whole push-pull action going on (which wouldn't be happening if the design was better) and is very prone to snapping. When it does snap, all that happens is the back cover won't sit right- there will be a millimeter or less gap between the back cover and frame in that area- but in any case it looks kinda bad and allows the ingress of dust and dirt. I have snapped this little tab on one unit, and the slot the tab sits in on another unit just from taking the back cover off a few times VERY carefully. The plastic tab is part of the whole screen lift problem, there's a whole bunch of stresses on the left hand side of the device due to poor design. Twisting your bezel and tightening the screws is likely to overstress this plastic tab and lead to failure. Fine if you can live with that, but I can't. Some people have broken this tab accidentally and noticed that their screen recesses nicely back into the frame, so it looks like the back cover is pulling the frame away from the screen with all that stress on the tiny plastic tab. Baaaaad design.....
I would imagine that any 'fix' that involves forcefully pulling the screen and frame together, i.e. spacers, glue etc.... will result in overstressing the plastic tab causing it to fail eventually. This tablet is designed badly, that's the bottom line. If your fix works permanently then kudos to you though!
Just be mindful of that stupid tiny plastic tab....
Edit: Having examined your second photo, it looks like your slot is snapped already. See the diagonal break on the left?

You are absolutely correct.
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Edit: Having examined your second photo, it looks like your slot is snapped already. See the diagonal break on the left?
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That's from my previous tablet, I was too lazy to take another set of pictures.
It snapped when I first had the spacers inserted in between the frame, instead of placing them at the top. The cover would not sit properly on the worked side as the space was too great.

Have you left yourself with a tiny gap between frame and back cover now, where the slot has snapped?
There's no winning with this thing.
Edit: Different tablet, cool!

Switchbitch said:
Have you left yourself with a tiny gap between frame and back cover now, where the slot has snapped?
There's no winning with this thing.
Edit: Different tablet, cool!
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I updated the second picture, showing the 4 screws to be worked with... in the same time you can see the tab not being broken.
I also warped a little more the missed area, so now the tablet bezel is perfectly aligned everywhere.

Interesting.... so effectively what you are doing by rotating the bezel is moving the screen-side bezel closer to the screen, and the component-side bezel further from the components, then firmly screwing it down in that position?
Picturing this in my head, I can see exactly why it would work. May try this on my next N7 if it also has screen lift, which it almost certainly will given that they all suffer from the same bad design.

Ya, is as simple as that: "rotating the bezel is moving the screen-side bezel closer to the screen, and the component-side bezel further from the components".
Don't go crazy on tightening hard the screws. I applied a medium torque, even if I could've tighten them further. The spacers will do the job to retain in place the bezel, as they have a larger contact surface than the actual screw.
It is interesting that the first tablet did not have the adhesive speaker band like the second one. Both tablets were batch C8O, just be careful when you open yours in case you get the new model with sticky speakers. The adhesive band is very thin and surrounds the speaker contour.
As you said very well in your post, to avoid the tab snapping all you have to do is place back the cover at angle starting with the worked area. In a way, is good that I "ruined" my first tablet. At least I learned all the quirks in order to eliminate 100% the lifting. The first tablet had some dead pixels, so I experienced on it knowing that I will exchange it anyways.

What size was the screws, I'm thinking of trying out this fix.
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No idea, I brought one screw to the shop and he got 2 extra, as well the spacers. If you bring them the screw, they will know for sure. Is a common size used on phones and tablets. He even had 2 colors, the black and the stainless one.
The spacers are VERY important, they hold in place better the screws with the bezel warped and also reduce the screw length. Make sure you get the good ones, I took a close-up so you get a better idea:

TECK said:
Before (screen lift visible on the rear):
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BTW, congratulations on the FIRST picture I've actually seen where you can see the screen lift.

Not to sound pessimistic, but what I'm most curious about is whether or not this fix would effectively lessen any stress the screen may see, and perhaps make it less susceptible to easy cracking...?

Lol yeah permanent fix until the issue returns. Not trying to ruffle your feathers so don't take it that way but everything short of gluing the screen to the frame has been nothing but a temporary fix. I hope your screen stays flush but its plenty of threads claiming to fix the issue but none of them have proven to be successful besides gluing the screen. My screen is actually pretty flush so I never had to do any of these fixes but its seems to me that the adhesive just doesn't hold the screen down very well.
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I agree, the screen is raised primarily because the adhesive has failed. Fiddling with the screws and bezel is all well and good but the adhesive still isn't holding the screen down. Reducing the stress causing the screen to separate is a step in the right direction though.

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Lol yeah permanent fix until the issue returns.
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You are right, what I meant by "permanent" was my alternative to keep on exchanging the tablet until I find a so called "flawless" one.
From reading more on the subject, it looks like there are many tablets on C7O batch that were perfectly flush. Then, on the C8O batch, they suddenly decided to remove the 2 screws.
I personally believe that the new screen adhesive they use now is better than previous models. Is a matter of managing to make the plastic bezel flush with the screen which might be technically not possible with the current prototype. If Google would've chosen Samsung as manufacturer, we would probably pay a higher price but the tablet would be perfect. I believe the Apple lawsuit scared Google from contracting Samsung, like they did with the phone. Either ways, I'm personally done with chasing the perfect tablet.

@ Teck
Is your Display still okay ?
Dear Stefan
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It was still perfect until yesterday, when I refunded the tablet.
Let's see what the C9O build makes for the bad lucks I had so far... I'm definitely not giving up on Nexus 7.

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It was still perfect until yesterday, when I refunded the tablet.
Let's see what the C9O build makes for the bad lucks I had so far... I'm definitely not giving up on Nexus 7.
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Why did you give up on it if you made it perfect?
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Why did you give up on it if you made it perfect?
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Never mind I just read the thread.
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I found the best fix by taking the pos back and not buying another. This is after I went through 4 with design flaws. You consumers are plain blind and ignorant sheep to accept these flaws. A brand new device and you are messing with it to fix their flaws? Morons.

FattiesGoneWild said:
I found the best fix by taking the pos back and not buying another. This is after I went through 4 with design flaws. You consumers are plain blind and ignorant sheep to accept these flaws. A brand new device and you are messing with it to fix their flaws? Morons.
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Hope you don't talk like that daily. I can't imagine

He's kind of right though.
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Final fix for Nexus 7 screen lift/seperation derived from other fix

Hi,
First of all my sincere apologies if this is dupe (Please delete this thread mods if dupe). I guess I found the 101% fix for screen separation, so I decided to share it with others
1. Empty your phone battery to 1-2 % , switch it off, once done go to the next step
2. Follow this thread (NEW FIX for screen separation issue) and do what @dilldoe said. (Note: This alone might fix but some guyz reporting screen lift comes back, same as in mine case, screen lift came back at first )
3. Now wrap your nexus 7 in some cloth (not very thick), apply clips where the screen lift is , then put it in charging. Leave it for 12-14 hours.
Now you can check your screen lift problem is gone I'd say . Above method fixed mine also and it's been more than 3 days it didn't come back.

Beamon said:
Hi,
First of all my sincere apologies if this is dupe (Please delete this thread mods if dupe). I guess I found the 101% fix for screen separation, so I decided to share it with others
1. Empty your phone battery to 1-2 % , switch it off, once done go to the next step
2. Follow this thread (NEW FIX for screen separation issue) and do what @dilldoe said. (Note: This alone might fix but some guyz reporting screen lift comes back, same as in mine case, screen lift came back at first )
3. Now wrap your nexus 7 in some cloth (not very thick), apply clips where the screen lift is , then put it in charging. Leave it for 12-14 hours.
Now you can check your screen lift problem is gone I'd say . Above method fixed mine also and it's been more than 3 days it didn't come back.
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Just wanted to ask if it ever came back.. please get back to me. All what specific "tools" did you use?

Another Fix for the Nexus 7 screen lift issue
I've found a new fix for the screen lift issue that worked for me; I never post on these things, but this has been bugging me so much that I though I should share this with others who have had to contend with this issue. Please do not hold me responsible if you take these somewhat "drastic" measures and they don't work for you in the same way they did for me. Also note that this procedure will certainly void your warranty, so proceed at your own risk.
I am on my third N7, so I simply examined the device myself and went through with what I thought was necessary to fix it. My first two N7s had the screen flicker issue and all of them had the screen lift. This third device didn't have the flicker issue, but the screen lift was the worst on this one than my previous two; it was the only one that not only had a perceptible lift above the bezel, but was also very squishy and made a clicking or shifting sound when I pressed it. This became particularly annoying every time I tapped the home button in portrait.
I have also tried a lot of the common fixes online: tightened all the screws, loosened the ones on the left side a bit, made the washers as suggested on this thread, etc. What I found when I took the back off, however, was that I could easily run my guitar pick (which I used to pry off the back) along the groove on the *right* side, but could not do the same on the left problem side. Aside from the four-pin connector and a part in the middle, each screw appears to have a three ridged "grate" as part of the inside mould which doesn't allow a deep groove along the entire left side like it does on the right side. Also, the back cover has a number of ridges sticking out (likely to block out dust, etc.) in addition to the clips that hold the back cover in place. In my thinking, then, I thought that perhaps those ridges on the back cover were pushing down on the elevated portions inside the N7, thereby pushing out the screen on the left side along with it. It would make sense, since there is such a deep groove on the right side to accommodate the right-side ridges on the back cover, which isn't the case for the left side. It seemed, therefore, that there was a flaw in the design of the shape of the mould for the back cover.
So, since this was my third device, and I simply didn't care what the results would be out of frustration, I ever-so-carefully trimmed or scraped off any ridge that wasn't a clip along the left side with a jack knife. Then, (and I don't know if this was necessary), I watched a video to heat up the N7 and placed a stack of books on it over night (ensuring that the bottom book was aligned with the screen inside the bezel).
Now, I have tried many adjustments, and after each of the probably 50-ish times I've carried out these various methods, the screen popped back up after only about 15 minutes of use. It's now been about a week of fairly heavy use, and the screen is still below the bezel where it belongs.
There are three additional points: first, this methods was implemented in conjunction with the aforementioned book-stacking and the washer method. I don't know how much the book-stacking played a part, but the washers by themselves did nothing for me (I just haven't removed them b/c I didn't want to risk messing with a good thing). Second, because I removed all those ridges on the back cover, there is a barely perceptible gap between the silver bezel and back cover. In my opinion, it is not enough to let dust in, and it is certainly much, much, MUCH more preferable to the screen lift. Third, this method isn't perfect; there is still the slightest of slightest lift in one place (more near the bottom, in portrait), but it is enormously better than it was before.
I've included a few images that show the "grates" by the screws and elevated portions that the ridges on the back cover were pushing down on, the trimmed or scraped-off sections on the back cover where the ridges used to be and used to push down on these elevated portions inside the N7, the end results that show the screen below the bezel from two perspectives, and the size of the "gap" between the silver bezel and back cover after the procedure.
I truly hope this helps everyone relieve some frustration.
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Inside "grates" by screws aren't deep enough to accommodate ridges on the back cover.
another elevated portion
groove isn't deep enough
Trimmed-off ridges on the back cover
results
results from the other side -- silver is visible
picture of the widest portion of the resulting nearly imperceptible gap between the bezel and back cover

your pictures arent working but i believe you are right. when i have the back cover off there is no screen lift whatsoever...you might have solved it yo
i want to see your pictures before i do it to my nexus though.

So I've been considering the N7 for a few months now because of the awesome price point it's at and I was wondering how common an issue this is. Is screen lift present in most of these devices or is it just the luck of the draw? Also, do the devices start that way or after some use does the issue rear its ugly head? Any advice before my purchase would be helpful! Thanks

It's present on every nexus 7 I've seen....so about 5 of them including my local Sam's club display model. That doesn't mean it's common but that is my experience.

I'm on my 8th N7 and its has a small amount of lift (0.5mm), its a C90. It used to be worse (1.5-2.5mm) until I slackened all the screws quarter turn on the raised side.
I just live with it now. If you don't look at it it's not there! Its going on eBay soon ready for the 32GB model.
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I don't think my device has any screen lift, I did the squeeze test and didnt notice any movement or squeeking.
How can I tell if I have screen lift?

If you have it, it is hard to miss, the glass goes above the silver bezel on the left side. Mine was okay in he first few weeks, then the lift appeared. Nothing but glue worked for me and glue worked very well.
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siddesu said:
If you have it, it is hard to miss, the glass goes above the silver bezel on the left side. Mine was okay in he first few weeks, then the lift appeared. Nothing but glue worked for me and glue worked very well.
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How did you do it? I thought about the same but I'm not sure if it will work or how it will look like in case the glue might be visible under the glass. Thanks