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[Q] Camera problem? Or factory ?:D

Dear all,
I am a proud owner of this phone for a few days now, but I noticed that the camera stretches the picture on the top. Let me try to explain, so when I take a picture of a person then the forehead is abnormally stretched... of course not only with the head, but everything...
Is it normal? or Faulty camera?
you can see it on the attachments..

zimilaci said:
Dear all,
I am a proud owner of this phone for a few days now, but I noticed that the camera stretches the picture on the top. Let me try to explain, so when I take a picture of a person then the forehead is abnormally stretched... of course not only with the head, but everything...
Is it normal? or Faulty camera?
you can see it on the attachments..
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You should try with a full wipe and see if that persist... I Don't think that it is an hardware related problem

matt95 said:
You should try with a full wipe and see if that persist... I Don't think that it is an hardware related problem
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full wipe = factory reset?
The front camera does the same tho.... it seems like a filter, for distorting..

zimilaci said:
full wipe = factory reset?
The front camera does the same tho.... it seems like a filter, for distorting..
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look at this sorry cause of my ugly face this is the front camera, ( i hope its only software
haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIxMiHCaWxI
but another video has the same
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6T1BbwJwiE

It is a tradeoff that happens with the choice to go with a widescreen lense (maybe their is a more accurate way of saying that?). If you compare the One with any other phone (that I know of) you will see that it gets much more into the picture when held horizontally. The tradeoff to this is that pictures look stretched when taken in portrait mode. So what you are seeing is normal.
I agree that I don't like the stretching, but man is it nice being able to get so much I to a picture when you hold the phone horizontally.
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ataft said:
It is a tradeoff that happens with the choice to go with a widescreen lense (maybe their is a more accurate way of saying that?). If you compare the One with any other phone (that I know of) you will see that it gets much more into the picture when held horizontally. The tradeoff to this is that pictures look stretched when taken in portrait mode. So what you are seeing is normal.
I agree that I don't like the stretching, but man is it nice being able to get so much I to a picture when you hold the phone horizontally.
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Not anymore, I took back the phone and got an s4 at least I can find out now which one is better
Thanks for the help

Check out this picture as an example. I was the only one in the room that was able to get this picture. Maybe if the wall went back a couple feet, someone else could get the same picture without cutting people right next to them out.
So, sucks a bit to stretch pictures out in portrait, but this is pretty damn cool.
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I have to say that I checked my camera and I don't see anything like in zimilaci's video. So for me it actually doesn't look normal.

I don't know why my wide angle photos show a fish-eye type distortion where only the part where the photo is focussed is clear and everything else seeps into a slight blur.

Feature not a bug. It *is* a wide angle lens. Wide angle lenses start to exhibit fish eye distortion the wider they go. Anything in the corners of the frame is not going to be orthogonal. End of story.
If you think it's bad on the back camera, try the front facing camera lol http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2260286

NxNW said:
Feature not a bug. It *is* a wide angle lens. Wide angle lenses start to exhibit fish eye distortion the wider they go. Anything in the corners of the frame is not going to be orthogonal. End of story.
If you think it's bad on the back camera, try the front facing camera lol http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2260286
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Well I dont care anymore I got it back again, I hope its only a matter of software issue....
The video... forget it, the front camera is worse but its still ok. because of that I am not gonna take it back or whatever, Support says its not normal tho

NxNW said:
Feature not a bug. It *is* a wide angle lens. Wide angle lenses start to exhibit fish eye distortion the wider they go. Anything in the corners of the frame is not going to be orthogonal. End of story.
If you think it's bad on the back camera, try the front facing camera lol http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2260286
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I am not quite sure anymore... a friend mine told me that she did not encounter any distortion.... I will check today other devices as well...
its not that annoying...or mabye ? its only the front camera, and a bit with the rear....
HTc online support told me it a faulty device, but both cameras?
Come on...

Go over to Android Central. They mentioned this effect in their review of the camera.
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ataft said:
Go over to Android Central. They mentioned this effect in their review of the camera.
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Then my question is, how come that the official HTC support said its not normal?
or its only one of the technicians?

Front Camera Alignment

Anyone's front facing camera seem like it's out of perfect alignment or is this normal? It's not just a shadow I'm sure if it. http://imgur.com/oYVflP2

Mine is perfectly aligned, so I guess it is not normal. I suppose the front camera does work, and it is only a design issue.

BrandonPrice31 said:
Anyone's front facing camera seem like it's out of perfect alignment or is this normal? It's not just a shadow I'm sure if it. http://imgur.com/oYVflP2
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Does it work?
As long as the lens isn't covered, it should be 100% functional. it's held by sticky tape, if it really bothers you, you can unclip the back and move it into alignment. But if its functional and lens isn't blocked, I wouldn't worry about it.

Mine looks similar to yours. Doesn't affect the pictures, so I don't care.

It works perfectly. Just aesthetically it bothers me.
n19htmare said:
Does it work?
As long as the lens isn't covered, it should be 100% functional. it's held by sticky tape, if it really bothers you, you can unclip the back and move it into alignment. But if its functional and lens isn't blocked, I wouldn't worry about it.
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n19htmare said:
Does it work?
As long as the lens isn't covered, it should be 100% functional. it's held by sticky tape [...]
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Jesus, they really like their double sided sticky tape over there at LG... Isn't the vibrator held with sticky tape too?

Actually mine is a little like yours too. Guessing its "normal"? Unless im looking for it I dont see it.

Mine isnt completely center, so i'm chalking this one up to normal/within spec.

Perfectly centered here and I'm ocd
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Not centered on mine. Damn you for pointing it out to be.
Does anyone else find the angle of the camera to be a bit odd? When looking at it, in Portrait mode, like for a Hangout .. The angle towards you seems to be slightly "off" - anyone else?
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are u really trying to find small things to complain about this phone and post it on here?

Mines a tiny bit off like yours but photos come out fine so I don't care. Not going to replace something that's a non-issue for a potential real issue.

cyburke said:
Not centered on mine. Damn you for pointing it out to be.
Does anyone else find the angle of the camera to be a bit odd? When looking at it, in Portrait mode, like for a Hangout .. The angle towards you seems to be slightly "off" - anyone else?
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I don't complain much, but I'm with you on this one... Sadly, its just something I've come to expect on smartphones now days. I never understood why everybody puts the front facing camera off-center. WHY put it on the right or left side of the phone (when holding in portrait). Placing the camera off center like that makes using the front cam for video chats annoying, because when our holding the phone in perfect alignment to see the screen, the camera isn't center on you, so you have to move the phone so that the camera will be center on you and then the screen is not. Why can't they just place the camera at the top center of the device, above or below the speaker? Or at least a lot closer to center.

bluegizmo83 said:
I don't complain much, but I'm with you on this one... Sadly, its just something I've come to expect on smartphones now days. I never understood why everybody puts the front facing camera off-center. WHY put it on the right or left side of the phone (when holding in portrait). Placing the camera off center like that makes using the front cam for video chats annoying, because when our holding the phone in perfect alignment to see the screen, the camera isn't center on you, so you have to move the phone so that the camera will be center on you and then the screen is not. Why can't they just place the camera at the top center of the device, above or below the speaker? Or at least a lot closer to center.
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I'm sorry but I just don't see it. Because of the distance and degree of movement required (if any at all) it's really NOT an issue if the camera is off-set and not in the center of the phone.
Case in point, I just tried it. When looking straight at the headset grill and point that towards me, I'm dead center of the screen. The camera itself already takes into the account of the left offset in portrait mode.
Did you try it?
Most if not all who test this right now on the phone will see they are well centered when viewing the screen straight on...
That's why a lot of phones still off-set the camera to right or the left because it's a NON ISSUE

n19htmare said:
I'm sorry but I just don't see it. Because of the distance and degree of movement required (if any at all) it's really NOT an issue if the camera is off-set and not in the center of the phone.
Case in point, I just tried it. When looking straight at the headset grill and point that towards me, I'm dead center of the screen. The camera itself already takes into the account of the left offset in portrait mode.
Did you try it?
Most if not all who test this right now on the phone will see they are well centered when viewing the screen straight on...
That's why a lot of phones still off-set the camera to right or the left because it's a NON ISSUE
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Haven't tried it on the Nexus 5 yet (it's "Out For Delivery" so it should be delivered any moment now), but on my HTC One if I did exactly as you described by holding the phone directly in front of my face looking straight at the headset grill, my face was not centered on the screen image. I had to line my face up perfectly center with the camera lens for it to show my face centered on the screen. This was with the phone held in one hand at a comfortable distance for video chat.

Mine is off center as well. First thing I noticed when I got the phone. It seems to be working fine so I won't RMA it but it does bug the crap out of me when I look at it.

Looks center to me
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mine is off center too- to the bottom right. doesn't effect pictures.

Be careful with magnetic camera lenses! N5 is NOT designed for them

Hi all, I just want to share my experiences I made today.
I have bought a Wide/Macro Lens like used in the Video (from Amazon, they all seems to be pretty the same) and it is NOT working! The magnets from the lens are not attracting to the magnets in the phone, they are pushing away! Be aware, I don't thing there is a standardized way how the lens manufacturers build in the magnet since it is designed to hold to a metal ring and not to another magnet.
I tried to hold the lens just to take a test picture but the magnet interferes with the OIS, in some positions it caused hard vibrations within the N5's camera lens that was also visible in the camera app preview picture.
I would be careful with this lenses! I think the magnets in the N5 are designed for the OIS and not for some cheap 3rd party lenses. Gladly my OIS still seems to work flawless (This seems also to be why Google is not advertising such feature)

fireproofrev said:
(from Amazon, they all seems to be pretty the same)
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It's already known that some cheap ones on Amazon have more-or-less random magnetic polarity. The only ones confirmed for being consistent are the ones on Photojojo. As for messing with OIS, I don't have first-hand experience with these lenses, but it seems that that was also confirmed for not happening with the Photojojo lenses.
Unless you got the Photojojo ones through Amazon. Then you might want to post this in those other threads about this too, so people will see this result.

You could always take out the magnet and flip it around

Andypandiiee said:
You could always take out the magnet and flip it around
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I tried to (with a little flat screwdriver), but it seems to be pressed in, it fits very tight. Maybe I try it tomorrow again (heat up a little??).
attached a picture of the lens
(at the amazon picture a silver one was shown but they delivered this black version)

All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.

Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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uhm.. this is totally wrong, I don't want a great picture quality, I want a wide-lens to have a wider angle for party snapshots or being out with some friends. You can increase the visibility range alot and I like the effect, so why not? I definitely DONT want to carry a camera all the time (by the way I have also a canon eos d1000, yeah I know it is just a "cheap" DSLR but it is enough for me).
This is not a "camera has too bad quality" thread (IMO the N5 camera is great) so go away
By the way, the lens is working perfect with the metal ring on my GNex

I can also confirm this. I bought these from Amazon. Received these today and when tried to put them on ... the reverse polarity on the magnet on the lens and the one on the camera itself repel each other. I was only able to hold the lens in place with my hand to try out the macro lens (picture attached). However I didn't experience any vibration or OIS not working. OIS was working fine for me. I used HDR+ mode.
Anyways, lenses are going back. Only lens confirmed to work with N5 are from Photojojo and since those lenses are way overpriced I will not buy them.
zoomed out photo was taken at the closest distance where the on-screen camera focus ring turned green. YMMV.
Excuse the fingers in the macro shot as I was holding the lens with one hand while taking the photo.
enjoy

Here's my post from another thread about this:
Got the photojojo and ehh not impresive at all. Although this one didn't seem to affect the camera like the others. When put up to the camera it didn't flicker like the cheap Amazon ones. Also it required me to have the metal ring attached
You're better off going with a product called Easy Macro. It's a macro lens attached to a band that fits around your phone so no magnets
Overall for $25 it's not worth it IMO. I'm returnng it and sticking with my easy macro.
Here are some images
Here are the full resolution ones taken with my n5 and the fisheye lens. It was an act of god to get it to focus right lol
Picture 1
Picture 2
Picture 3
fullsize of the last 3 images taken with my dslr
picture 1
picture 2
picture 3

I ordered the Photojojo's from Amazon -- FROM Photojojo, and it's no-go jojo for my photo phono circo.
Anyway, the magnet doesn't work at all. Not quite reversed polarity that I can tell, but only one small area wants to attract. Not enough to keep the lens on.

Yea. The magnet on my phone barely holds up a paperclip. I seriously doubt it was designed for lenses. If it was, Google would be all over that with their advertising, especially since they have been flaunting their photo capabilities.

-Cupper- said:
Here's my post from another thread about this:
Got the photojojo and ehh not impresive at all. Although this one didn't seem to affect the camera like the others. When put up to the camera it didn't flicker like the cheap Amazon ones. Also it required me to have the metal ring attached
You're better off going with a product called Easy Macro. It's a macro lens attached to a band that fits around your phone so no magnets
Overall for $25 it's not worth it IMO. I'm returnng it and sticking with my easy macro.
Here are some images
Here are the full resolution ones taken with my n5 and the fisheye lens. It was an act of god to get it to focus right lol
Picture 1
Picture 2
Picture 3
fullsize of the last 3 images taken with my dslr
picture 1
picture 2
picture 3
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Are you enjoying them so far cause I would love to get my hands on some extra lenses for this phone if they work good and yes I have a dslr as well but not always on me
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dakunclear said:
Are you enjoying them so far cause I would love to get my hands on some extra lenses for this phone if they work good and yes I have a dslr as well but not always on me
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The fisheye lenses that I got were REALLY subpar to me, so I returned it. Since I had to attach a metal ring to the camera lens so that the lens could stick to it, I couldn't really justify it. Like I said in my earlier post I really like the easy macro because it's on a band and I can easily remove it. If I found a fisheye that was on a band like that I might get it, but idk the image quality wasnt that great either and the metal ring was really a turnoff Use amazon, buy it and if you dont like it then return it

fireproofrev said:
I tried to hold the lens just to take a test picture but the magnet interferes with the OIS, in some positions it caused hard vibrations within the N5's camera lens that was also visible in the camera app preview picture.
I would be careful with this lenses! I think the magnets in the N5 are designed for the OIS and not for some cheap 3rd party lenses. Gladly my OIS still seems to work flawless (This seems also to be why Google is not advertising such feature)
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Oh boy!!! I can now confirm this. After a long time I couldn't control myself and bought another set of lenses from Amazon and decided to stick the provided ring to the phone lens. Macro lens seemed to work fine however as soon as I mounted the wide angle lens ... OIS started freaking out so bad I can't even begin to describe. You can feel the vibrations and see it on the screen as well. I immediately removed the lens and put it away. OP was right about this little thing ... I won't be using wide angle lens to avoid any permanent damage to OIS in the phone .

Any kind of strong magnet will also disorient the directional sensor while using google maps. I was wondering why the turn by turn navi would randomly tell me to make a U-turn.
Test for yourself. Pop open google maps and locate your position. Then put a magnet near the top half of the phone, you'll see your directional pointer spin away.

Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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Yeah good luck. A dedicated camera like an SLR or a point and shoot won't be there when that spur of the moment photo presents itself to you.
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Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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So much NO in this post. "real Photography"? Please. The fact that a photo is taken with a phone vs a DSLR vs medium format vs etc etc is irrelevant. You don't need a (relatively) expensive camera to take good photos. You need creativity and opportunity, that's it.
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I was almost tempted to buy one to play with my N5 camera.. but reading this thread made me worried..
Now I used that little money and bought a wireless charger... should be coming to me tomorrow..

Good to know -- thanks for the warning, you just saved me some time/money no doubt!

Does anyone else feel kinda lied to? (Camera)

I don't know how it took me this long to realize this but when just zooming in a normal camera application the cameras never switches from the wide angle to the telephoto lens.... Obviously it happens when you use live focus mode but it never switches if you're not in that mode. So whenever i tap on that "x2" button its just giving me another digital zoom, just as with any of the previous phones before the Note 8. I guess its not a huge deal but I feel lied to. You can check for yourself, just cover the telephoto lens (the one on the left) and zoom in. I'm not sure if this is the case with the iPhones as well but i just thought this was a little weird. They bragged about actual 2x optical zoom but you can only use it when its this specialized portrait mode where focusing can be a pain...
I feel like Samsung just wanted to copy the iPhone feel with that zoom button.
Had anyone else noticed this? I feel like I'm the first one to mention this.

Are you already covering the lense before you Zoom? If so, that's why. The camera knows that it's covered, so it uses Digital on the Main. Also, the lighting condition needs to be optimal for the Telephoto lense. At least that what I heard around the Internet. :silly:

dilness said:
I don't know how it took me this long to realize this but when just zooming in a normal camera application the cameras never switches from the wide angle to the telephoto lens.... Obviously it happens when you use live focus mode but it never switches if you're not in that mode. So whenever i tap on that "x2" button its just giving me another digital zoom, just as with any of the previous phones before the Note 8. I guess its not a huge deal but I feel lied to. You can check for yourself, just cover the telephoto lens (the one on the left) and zoom in. I'm not sure if this is the case with the iPhones as well but i just thought this was a little weird. They bragged about actual 2x optical zoom but you can only use it when its this specialized portrait mode where focusing can be a pain...
I feel like Samsung just wanted to copy the iPhone feel with that zoom button.
Had anyone else noticed this? I feel like I'm the first one to mention this.
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Open the camera.
Cover each camera until it picture doesn't appear.
Switch to 2X then do the same.
You will see it uses the two different camera. If you have it covered BEFORE the switch the software seems to adjust because the lens is covered like above mentions.
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https://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/09/23/iphone-7-plus-2x-optical-zoom-explained/
guess the cheezy zoom is a copy alright. same 'issues' or limitations as the iphone7s. the reviews of the iPhone 8's camera are not giving any real details apart that it's very good which is not helpfull and are prolly chit reviews payed by the company since their whole line of new old phones are a flop.

Tidbits said:
Open the camera.
Cover each camera until it picture doesn't appear.
Switch to 2X then do the same.
You will see it uses the two different camera. If you have it covered BEFORE the switch the software seems to adjust because the lens is covered like above mentions.
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I don't understand.
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xbmoyx said:
I don't understand.
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It works like intended but you can't block the lens before you switch. The software will see it covered and adjust use the same lens as before and digitally zoom.
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Tidbits said:
It works like intended but you can't block the lens before you switch. The software will see it covered and adjust use the same lens as before and digitally zoom.
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I saw many YouTube videos where people would say this or that camera is for zoom, so I would hold my finger over both and hit the 2x and it's always the same camera and seems the only reason for the 2nd camera is for the Live Focus.
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xbmoyx said:
I saw many YouTube videos where people would say this or that camera is for zoom, so I would hold my finger over both and hit the 2x and it's always the same camera and seems the only reason for the 2nd camera is for the Live Focus.
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They are covering BEFORE they switch. The camera sees the lens is blocked and uses the same lens because the other is blocked.
Try it yourself
Camera 1 - inside lens (next to flash)
Camera 2 - Outside lens
Open camera
Cover Camera 1
Uncover camera 1
Switch to Camera 2
Cover camera 1
Then cover camera 2
You will see it works how it should. The software is smart enough if the camera two is not available it will digitally zoom using the first.
As far as covering camera 1 and it not switching to Camera 2 as camera 2 was never intended to be the main shooter so the software doesn't compensate.
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Tidbits said:
They are covering BEFORE they switch. The camera sees the lens is blocked and uses the same lens because the other is blocked.
Try it yourself
Camera 1 - inside lens (next to flash)
Camera 2 - Outside lens
Open camera
Cover Camera 1
Uncover camera 1
Switch to Camera 2
Cover camera 1
Then cover camera 2
You will see it works how it should. The software is smart enough if the camera two is not available it will digitally zoom using the first.
As far as covering camera 1 and it not switching to Camera 2 as camera 2 was never intended to be the main shooter so the software doesn't compensate.
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I will try and post a video later. Of how I noticed how it worked. You can't cover camera 2 before you switch to 2X or else it will use camera 1 and digitally zoom it to compensate.
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Tidbits said:
Camera 1 - inside lens (next to flash)
Camera 2 - Outside lens
Open camera
Cover Camera 1
Uncover camera 1
Switch to Camera 2
Cover camera 1
Then cover camera 2
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When you say Switch to camera 2, you mean move your finger from blocking camera 1 to 2? It seems like no matter what I do the camera will only do 2x zoom in the inside camera near the flash? I'm lost.
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It will also not switch to 2nd camera in low light, presumably because zoom lens is 2.7 and main cam is 1.7, letting in more than double the amount of light. Personally I hate automation (I can make better choices that suit me better) and would prefer full manual lens choice much better, but I see where is Samsung coming from: most user don't know much about photography, just care about end results, so lets camera decide which is best for given condition. We could probably fix this, if we had root.

xbmoyx said:
When you say Switch to camera 2, you mean move your finger from blocking camera 1 to 2? It seems like no matter what I do the camera will only do 2x zoom in the inside camera near the flash? I'm lost.
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When you press 2X it will switch to Camera 2. If you do it enough times sometimes you can see the software transfer too slow and you can see yourself cover camera 2 then all of a sudden you will see it switch to Camera 1 and be digitally zoomed.
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Tidbits said:
When you press 2X it will switch to Camera 2. If you do it enough times sometimes you can see the software transfer too slow and you can see yourself cover camera 2 then all of a sudden you will see it switch to Camera 1 and be digitally zoomed.
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Try doing this cover camera 2 the one farthest from the heart rate sensor.
Then tap the 2X a few times. Do it enough times it'll bug out and you will see not switch like it should when camera two is blocked. I will have a video up shortly.
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dilness said:
I don't know how it took me this long to realize this but when just zooming in a normal camera application the cameras never switches from the wide angle to the telephoto lens.... Obviously it happens when you use live focus mode but it never switches if you're not in that mode. So whenever i tap on that "x2" button its just giving me another digital zoom, just as with any of the previous phones before the Note 8. I guess its not a huge deal but I feel lied to. You can check for yourself, just cover the telephoto lens (the one on the left) and zoom in. I'm not sure if this is the case with the iPhones as well but i just thought this was a little weird. They bragged about actual 2x optical zoom but you can only use it when its this specialized portrait mode where focusing can be a pain...
I feel like Samsung just wanted to copy the iPhone feel with that zoom button.
Had anyone else noticed this? I feel like I'm the first one to mention this.
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I did check for myself. Opened the camera app, pointed the camera at a well-lit scene (both lenses uncovered). Tapped the x2 icon and covered the main/wide lens and the viewfinder still shows the uncovered view.
I don't appreciate being lied to by the OP.

harveydent said:
I don't appreciate being lied to by the OP.
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Don't be so hard on OP. Maybe he didn't know better? He's just trying to help. No need to go assuming he's a liar.
Anyways I did the experiment too and the 2nd camera is definitely working in 2x zoom mode. I can even see the switch happening back and forth if I cover/uncover the camera.

Yeah coming from note 5... It's underwhelming to say the least.

It's weird I'm with T-Mobile... And a switch isn't happening for me except with live focus. With all zooms on regular mode it's always the camera closest to the heart sensor that displays the image ... And I've switched uncovered in a well lit area and even closed the app and tried. I can do anything to make it use the telephoto lens except live focus.

nique0201 said:
It's weird I'm with T-Mobile... And a switch isn't happening for me except with live focus. With all zooms on regular mode it's always the camera closest to the heart sensor that displays the image ... And I've switched uncovered in a well lit area and even closed the app and tried. I can do anything to make it use the telephoto lens except live focus.
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Try cover the second lens(outer) and then switch between 1X and 2X.
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Tidbits said:
Try cover the second lens(outer) and then switch between 1X and 2X.
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I did... But what is that supposed to achieve the outer lens is already the one not displaying anything.

nique0201 said:
I did... But what is that supposed to achieve the outer lens is already the one not displaying anything.
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If it wasn't being use or some "tricks" then why does it not display a thing when it is covered.
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Ok I got it to switch but I basically had to aim the camera at a light bulb to get it to register. I'm in a what I consider well lit room. And it wouldn't make the switch. There must have to be a crap ton of light to trigger it... Or maybe it just has to be white light.
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Tidbits said:
If it wasn't being use or some "tricks" then why does it not display a thing when it is covered.
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What I meant by not displaying (which I now see where your confusion was) was that the inner camera was the one supplying the image on both 1x and 2x.. the outer wasn't even turning on at all to display an image (obstructed or otherwise).

nique0201 said:
Ok I got it to switch but I basically had to aim the camera at a light bulb to get it to register. I'm in a what I consider well lit room. And it wouldn't make the switch. There must have to be a crap ton of light to trigger it... Or maybe it just has to be white light.
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What I meant by not displaying (which I now see where your confusion was) was that the inner camera was the one supplying the image on both 1x and 2x.. the outer wasn't even turning on at all to display an image (obstructed or otherwise).
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For me if I cover the outer it and I hit 2X I see nothing. I go back to 1X it switches. If I cover it with my fingers from time to time I can move faster than the software and you can see it switch from outer to inner digital zoom. Right now I don't have another phone or camera where I can record it. I hoped I could go home early but looks like I will pull a double.
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Note 8 moment case?

Alright everybody does anybody know how the moment case and lenses are going to work with a dual camera set up?? Curious if it will only work on one camera?
Pre-Order Link just came out today for it
https://www.shopmoment.com/shop/photo-case/note-8/black

If you look at the photo, it looks like there are mounts over both cameras, so I would assume that it will work with both cameras.
Thanks for posting this, I missed the announcement and was wondering if they'd make a mount/case for the Note 8.

Etemchin said:
If you look at the photo, it looks like there are mounts over both cameras, so I would assume that it will work with both cameras.
Thanks for posting this, I missed the announcement and was wondering if they'd make a mount/case for the Note 8.
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Yeah I also noticed that but did not know how it would interact just wondering if anybody knew anything or had video of it. I mean note has a wide angle already will the wide lens make it like double that? LOL sorry just trying to figure out if i should order!
And no problem I have been really wanting to try one. Was going to get one for my pixel 2 xl but screen was too blue for me so guess I will try on note!

From my experience the lens screws into the case and sits flush to the camera. The Note 8 "wide" lens is actually not extremely wide, so there shouldn't be any vignetting or image quality problems.
The optics of the Moment lenses are superb, and yeah, the wide angle lens will make the view super wide!
I've had the Moment lenses since they were introduced and their customer support is always good and willing to help.
oneandroidnut said:
Yeah I also noticed that but did not know how it would interact just wondering if anybody knew anything or had video of it. I mean note has a wide angle already will the wide lens make it like double that? LOL sorry just trying to figure out if i should order!
And no problem I have been really wanting to try one. Was going to get one for my pixel 2 xl but screen was too blue for me so guess I will try on note!
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Etemchin said:
From my experience the lens screws into the case and sits flush to the camera. The Note 8 "wide" lens is actually not extremely wide, so there shouldn't be any vignetting or image quality problems.
The optics of the Moment lenses are superb, and yeah, the wide angle lens will make the view super wide!
I've had the Moment lenses since they were introduced and their customer support is always good and willing to help.
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hopefully so the wide will become an impressive wide, wider then other phones out there. i guess i could probably watch youtube video on the dual camera iphones i am sure somebody has a review of those on there