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How to share a folder on my Kaiser

This may seem like a weird request but I am looking for a way to share folders on my Kaiser. The reason for this is that my wife has a Wizard and I have set up a WiFi network between the two to play games together. I download software and games at work and then need to tranfer the the files to the Wizard.
Now I know that you can transfer it via bluetooth but that sometimes take quite long and since we have a wifi network thought that why not look for a way of utilizing it for the file transferring as well.
I have tried to Google the subject extensively but only got ways of sharing folders between my pc and the ppc's, nothing on ppc to ppc.
Any input regarding this would be appreciated.

I'm also interested in such a feature (so I don't think is weird )! My search on the subject has concluded that even though M$ has SMB server in Windows CE (after all, SMB is a Microsoft protocol!), only the client side is included in WindowsMobile
The closest thing I have managed to achieve is to use an FTP server on the kaiser, and Novell's Netdrive on the PC (http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/999.html)
hope it helps...
hypest

due to limitations in the windows mobile network stack, network shares are not possible from windows mobile.
you can access and create remote mapped drives with resco explorer, vm net browser, and z2 pocketlan... among others.
ftp may be the only option other than a raw activesync connection or bluetooth/irda
jd

Where there is a will their has to be a way.
Thanks for the responce guys, really do appreciate it.
Surely there must be a way to achieve something like this, if there is one thing I have learned from these forums it has to be that just about anything is possible. I'm sure there as to be something we can do. I will not stop digging till I find a way.

hypest said:
I'm also interested in such a feature (so I don't think is weird )! My search on the subject has concluded that even though M$ has SMB server in Windows CE (after all, SMB is a Microsoft protocol!), only the client side is included in WindowsMobile
The closest thing I have managed to achieve is to use an FTP server on the kaiser, and Novell's Netdrive on the PC (http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/999.html)
hope it helps...
hypest
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I'm not to sure what you mean by the ftp server on the Kaiser. Do I create a folder on the Kaiser that acts as a ftp folder and then connect to that or is it still a ftp folder on a server somewhere else and then need internet connection to connect to it. Please could you tell me more about this.
Thanks in advance.

vip3r69 said:
I'm not to sure what you mean by the ftp server on the Kaiser. Do I create a folder on the Kaiser that acts as a ftp folder and then connect to that or is it still a ftp folder on a server somewhere else and then need internet connection to connect to it. Please could you tell me more about this.
Thanks in advance.
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Yeap, here it is:
You can run an FTP server on the kaiser (like the free Mocha FTP server) which will let incoming network users to access a directory you specify... I have specified the whole root dir "\". Then, you can use any ftp client software on a desktop PC (or another kaiser of course) to access the FTP server that is running on your kaiser. Of course, you have to know the IP address of the server. Once you have verified that the kaiser is accessible and the files downloadable, you can use the Novell's Netdrive (free also) to create a virtual disk on the client PC that will actually use FTP! That way, any program on the PC can access the kaiser's files, just as normal filesystem files. Apart from the delays and latencies, the scenario works great. As a matter of fact, I use it within my development cycle, where I have a post-build action that copies my program's compiled executable directly to the kaiser.
I hope these made it more clear
have fun,
hypest

hypest said:
Yeap, here it is:
You can run an FTP server on the kaiser (like the free Mocha FTP server) which will let incoming network users to access a directory you specify... I have specified the whole root dir "\". Then, you can use any ftp client software on a desktop PC (or another kaiser of course) to access the FTP server that is running on your kaiser. Of course, you have to know the IP address of the server. Once you have verified that the kaiser is accessible and the files downloadable, you can use the Novell's Netdrive (free also) to create a virtual disk on the client PC that will actually use FTP! That way, any program on the PC can access the kaiser's files, just as normal filesystem files. Apart from the delays and latencies, the scenario works great. As a matter of fact, I use it within my development cycle, where I have a post-build action that copies my program's compiled executable directly to the kaiser.
I hope these made it more clear
have fun,
hypest
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Thanks a lot for the info, I'm definitely gonna play around with this. Will post back here with my results when I'm done.
Thanks again!!!

I have checked out Mocha FTP server and downloaded it. Will test it tonight, it looks like it will do the trick though. If I run Mocha FTP server on both ppc I should be able to copy files from one to the other without a problem.

vip3r69 said:
If I run Mocha FTP server on both ppc I should be able to copy files from one to the other without a problem.
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of course in that case, you will need an FTP client on each device... but I guess that is the easy part...
I know at least one FTP client that is a file manager at the same time (TotalCommander... the one I use )
Perhaps there is a similar way to NetDrive, to map an FTP site onto a local path on the ppc so to be "visible" from any application, but I haven't used/tried any.
hypest

Definitely Worth Trying ..

hypest, you ROCK
hypest said:
of course in that case, you will need an FTP client on each device... but I guess that is the easy part...
I know at least one FTP client that is a file manager at the same time (TotalCommander... the one I use )
Perhaps there is a similar way to NetDrive, to map an FTP site onto a local path on the ppc so to be "visible" from any application, but I haven't used/tried any.
hypest
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Thanks you, it works like a dream. Tested it last night and at first didn't use my head. Every time I went into the FTP folder there was nothing, little red cross over the FTP connection at the top. I then created another ftp and still all I got was the little red cross( My wife then interrupted me for dinner, thanks. Cleared my head a bit) After dinner when back to it and deleted the one ftp and it was then when I saw you have to click "Connect", while clicked it and there was the folder that I shared on my ppc. Copied a couple of files and it works 100%. I use Resco Explorer 2007, works like a dream and its got a couple of other extra uses.
I'm not to pressed to have the client on both because I normally have all the stuff on mine and then copy it to my wife's. Won't do any harm to have it on both though. This is probably a little longer route than normal file sharing but it works perfect. Still going to try what you suggested above, will keep you posted.
Thanks again hypest.

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Thanks again hypest.
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Glad you're quite satisfied with this "solution"
I really hope though that someday a SMB server will come forth (free hopefully)!
Great irony: SMB server software does exist for Symbian!!! Symbian users can export a local dir, while WindowsMobile users CANNOT!!! And this (kaiser) is supposed to be a 800euro (in Greece) BUSSINESS phone! Shame...

In South Africa the Kaiser is about R8000,00 if you were to buy it cash.
I've got it on a MTN contract costing me R419,00 per month for 2 years. For that I only get the phone and 120 anytime minutes. (BIG RIP-OFF)
Anyway I will keep playing with this and will let you know if I get a breakthrough.
Thanks again for your input.

Browse home PC files from G1?

Maybe I'm not using the right keywords. I'm looking for an app or simple method on how to browse files on a PC and copy them over 3G/EDGE or WiFi outside the PC network to the G1s SD card.
I was thinking VNC but I don't want all the extra features, just file browsing. I run high resolution dual monitors and its way to slow over VNC to even browse.
Thanks

There are a number of decent FTP programs for Android out there. Set up a simple FTP server on your computer at home, and log in via your G1. Should work fine over Edge/3G.
-John

SpyderMS said:
There are a number of decent FTP programs for Android out there. Set up a simple FTP server on your computer at home, and log in via your G1. Should work fine over Edge/3G.
-John
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YEAH!!! FTP thats what I was looking for!! Late and the word was on the tip of my tongue but just couldnt grasp it. Thanks!

Anytime

Even though this is not exactly what you're looking for, Gmote is a really great app where you can view your home files from your phone. It's mainly for streaming music and viewing images, but you can see other files, though I don't think you can copy (yet?), but it's an awesome app.
As for FTP, I use AndFTP and it works great.

asanisimasa said:
Even though this is not exactly what you're looking for, Gmote is a really great app where you can view your home files from your phone. It's mainly for streaming music and viewing images, but you can see other files, though I don't think you can copy (yet?), but it's an awesome app.
As for FTP, I use AndFTP and it works great.
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But can Gmote let me view the files at my home even if I'm in a different state?
This FTP setting up is confusing. Any recommendations for some simple FTP servers?

Not to take over the thread, but what about an app to see and play things from a samba share? (Music, videos, pictures.) It'd make a nice MP3 player if it can "hold" terrabytes of info. hehe

Sistum Id said:
But can Gmote let me view the files at my home even if I'm in a different state?
This FTP setting up is confusing. Any recommendations for some simple FTP servers?
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I user IIS that comes with Vista Ultimate. Not sure what other versions it comes with though.

Is there anything for Android similar to Serv u? (http://www.serv-u.com/)
They have an Iphone app / interface that supports there ftp.
Anyone?

yes, i searched. how network my n1 thru wifi router to computer?

i can't seem to figure out how to allow my n1 to wirelessly access my computer's files through my wireless router, using w7 64bit. i left my usb cable at home, and bluetooth would work through ubuntu, but i can't get w7 to pair at all, even using bluetooth file transfer apk. ideally, i don't want to use that anyway, because bt is slow as mud, comparatively speaking.
re: wifi
i've enabled file sharing on the home network. searching for devices doesn't give up the nexus at all. i have no idea how to add it :/
re: bt
i've enabled and started all bluetooth services. it can't even pair with my phone, for some reason. both are discoverable, both see each other, but won't pair. :/
i wish that there was a stickied thread about this. doing forum search with titles only doesn't pan out anything. doing google search only leads to non-helpful sites for the first 50 or so.
this seems like it should just be basic stuff. tell my computer to look, tell my phone to look, they see and go. but, neither wants to, they're both being stingy little stuck up bastards, lol
any help would be appreciated.

Sorry to say, but you're all wrong about it being a piece of cake.
Don't know about bluetooth, but sharing files over networks is far from easy. When did you last try it between different OS?
Let's start with this: Android is Linux (more or less), and it doesn't share files with Windows networks without extra SW. Windows find network computers using NETBIOS and shares using Samba. Linux uses mostly FTP.
So:
To access Windows shares from phone , you need Samba client. Use ES Explorer, for example.
To access phone from Windows, use FTP server. SwiFTP, for example.
To use Windows sharing on Android, wait until Jimmychingala updates his Samba server to work on Nexus, I'm testing it. NetBIOS works already, shares not quite yet.

Jack_R1 said:
Sorry to say, but you're all wrong about it being a piece of cake.
Don't know about bluetooth, but sharing files over networks is far from easy. When did you last try it between different OS?
Let's start with this: Android is Linux (more or less), and it doesn't share files with Windows networks without extra SW. Windows find network computers using NETBIOS and shares using Samba. Linux uses mostly FTP.
So:
To access Windows shares from phone , you need Samba client. Use ES Explorer, for example.
To access phone from Windows, use FTP server. SwiFTP, for example.
To use Windows sharing on Android, wait until Jimmychingala updates his Samba server to work on Nexus, I'm testing it. NetBIOS works already, shares not quite yet.
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you rock, sir. i will investigate. thank you very much

I'll throw in some more info:
There is no default Bluetooth file transfer support AFAIK. But there are 3rd party apps to do it, for example Bluetooth file transfer, or the aforementioned ES Explorer.

I would try dropbox for android. Its free and simple to use. 123 you're sharing files between multiple computers and your phone

Jack_R1 said:
I'll throw in some more info:
There is no default Bluetooth file transfer support AFAIK. But there are 3rd party apps to do it, for example Bluetooth file transfer, or the aforementioned ES Explorer.
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yeah, i tried bluetooth file transfer. works fine in ubuntu, i can't even pair in w7. which is weird, because i had the exact opposite problem a few months ago when i was running stock ROM. i could sync to w7, without using the app even, but not to ubuntu.
dunno. i just hate having to drag that stupid cable back and forth from work.
and, dropbox is a good idea, but i don't want all of my business in the cloud. i have enough of it up there, lol

install filezilla server (or whatever you prefer) on win7 and connect via andFTP.
Make sure you configure the win7 firewall to accept incoming ftp connections.
If you find that hard use zonealarm free firewall instead of the default.

Transfer Files using Wifi + Android Name

Hi, i`ve been looking for a way to transfer files to the phone without using the USB cable.
I found: OnAir which does not work and SwiFTP which works but...
- i`m using Conectify to share my laptops internet connection. This in turn offers IP`s with DHCP.
Is there a way to name your phone to something fixed so that i can use it's name to connect?
If you have any other tips on how to do this, please feel free to let me know

qiuness said:
Hi, i`ve been looking for a way to transfer files to the phone without using the USB cable.
I found: OnAir which does not work and SwiFTP which works but...
- i`m using Conectify to share my laptops internet connection. This in turn offers IP`s with DHCP.
Is there a way to name your phone to something fixed so that i can use it's name to connect?
If you have any other tips on how to do this, please feel free to let me know
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you can use WebSharing, connect using IP address + port number..

qiuness said:
Hi, i`ve been looking for a way to transfer files to the phone without using the USB cable.
I found: OnAir which does not work and SwiFTP which works but...
- i`m using Conectify to share my laptops internet connection. This in turn offers IP`s with DHCP.
Is there a way to name your phone to something fixed so that i can use it's name to connect?
If you have any other tips on how to do this, please feel free to let me know
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on air does work fine on both 5.0.7 and froyo for me.

I suppose you're talking about Windows network. Is the phone rooted or not?
Non-rooted have no such option, but can use FTP. If you want to address it by a name - install DynDNS on the phone.
Rooted can change hostname to whatever you like (look up my thread about it in Development section - but it doesn't show on Windows network, since it's not NetBIOS name, it needs DNS server to be addressed) and/or install Samba+Netbios (look up Samba thread in Android General section, this one shows your phone as a computer on the Windows network with an SDCARD share, but it's a bit quirky - slows down when phone goes into sleep). Both things require interaction with O/S on a level of browsing system dirs, executing system commands and changing system text files. If you're not comfortable with it - I don't suggest trying.

I would just use ES File Explorer and pull the files from your Windows shares that you want rather than trying to go through all of the trouble to push a file to your phone.

Estrongs File Explorer does work very well browsing windows/smb shares over wifi. Astro can do this as well as an option for sftp for connecting to your linux box. As for a static IP you can do this manually from the wifi options in the phone. Or a nice app was made called WiFi Static, and is available free from the market.

A bit of a different choice, but Dropbox is free and can share files between any number of devices, in the cloud.

[APP]Transfer pdf/documents without mailing it to yourself

Found a great app in the marketplace. Allows you to transfer documents to your WP7 using a home server. Its fast and convenient.
Here is the link:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/6721b4f4-fd65-4ae5-923d-74183543d327

Have you ever tried SkyDrive, Office 365 or SharePoint? If "no" - try, you will be very excited, no third party app is required

Umm..lets consider both the cases. Assume I want to transfer a 20MB file to my phone.
Case 1: Using SkyDrive
I use my 512 Kbps line to upload it to skydrive and download it to my phone. So upload speed is 30KBps and download speed is 60 KBps. So total time taken is around 10-15 mins.
Case 2: Using the mentioned app
Transfers the pdf directly to my device at the speed of 1MBps. Time taken is about 15-20 secs.
That is why i was so excited when I saw the app at work

Sorry buddy, I'm not so good at calculations so just did a simple experiment:
- connection: Comcast cable
- file: Microsoft_Press_ebook_Programming_Windows_Phone_7_PDF.pdf, size 13,732,470 bytes (sorry, can't find 20M pdf)
- upload to SD: 32 sec
- file opened on phone (first page shown): 47 sec
No third pary involved, no animals were harmed

Haha. True for you. That's why I mentioned my internet speed(512 Kbps), which costs around $12/month, with 1Mbps costing $22/month Comcast, on the other hand, is so cheap and lightning fast. I guess this app is only relevant guys with snail-speed internet connection.
Damn, I can only dream about 15Mbps/29.99 a month!!

i am with chaitanya on this one
for low bandwidth users this one is seriously a great app *IF* that works.
time to find out

chaitanya91845 said:
Found a great app in the marketplace. Allows you to transfer documents to your WP7 using a home server. Its fast and convenient.
Here is the link:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/6721b4f4-fd65-4ae5-923d-74183543d327
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Hi chaitanya91845
Thank you for using my app and spreading the words.

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Hi chaitanya91845
Thank you for using my app and spreading the words.
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Oh. You are welcome. It's really awesome and has reduced transfer time by atleast 60x(Because I have a slow internet connection ie 512Kbps). Transferring pdf's has never been so easy for me.

Thanks...great app
my work blocks skydrive...this solved my problem...and its faster anyway

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Hi chaitanya91845
Thank you for using my app and spreading the words.
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could u explain why pdf transfer stops in middle and never completes??a 40mb pdf cant be downloaded completely..please fix this..i have an 80mb pdf also which always stops at 59%..always..
edit: i m now on windows 8 and i could transfer my fumm 150mb pdfs completely at 2055kBi/s
donno y it used to happen..happens now also..2 to 3 trials would solve the problems..
http file server needs to loacte ur device on the network to which hfs is connected..so u need to be connected to internet..even if u have limited access to ur network thats ok..i myself tested it..
u can see the ip address of ur device in hfs as 127.0.0.1:xxxxx...xxxxx is a port number and 127.0.0.1 indicates a loopback..which means the file is being shARED with a device which is an extension/connected to the same computer on which hfs is running..that means
file transfer is taking place via USB thats y file transfer speed is as much as a pen drive can have even if u have a 200MB/s connection..
good work bruce X li