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[Q] Questions about Firmware...

Hi wonderful people of XDA!
I just got my Nook Color used on craigslist and now I'm just wondering what to do next. I did a lot of reading up on these forums (and the android development part of the forums) and found out that I could root it with autonooter 3.0 and monster rootpack.
However, is there a benefit of keeping the firmware at 1.0.1 (the way I got it) and rooting it VS updating it to 1.1.0 and rooting it?
What are the pros and cons if any? I see that 1.1 adds a bit of new features to the NC, but I also heard that Clockworkmod Recovery doesn't like 1.1, or something. I remember briefly reading that somewhere on these forums but it could have been old news, or outdated and recently fixed. Regardless, I'm just sort of confused.
And after rooting, what should I do? Is Froyo completely stable and smooth yet?
TIA!

The 1.0.1 version has more support right now but the 1.1.0 support will certainly improve over time. For now i would recommend running nookie froyo off of a bootable sd card and leaving your nook stock. Then if you want to take the next step, do an emmc flash of froyo and never look back...
With that said, the 1.1 version rooted with the scripts on it works really smoothly.
The best thing about the nook color is how easily it can be put back completely stock, so you don't have to worry much about messing it up.
Enjoy

Nice. Thanks for the quick reply!
So I'll update to the 1.1.0 firmware and root. Do you recommend autonooter or monster rootpack? And what scripts are you talking about?
TIA, once again, haha...

I think the autonooter is easier for your first mod. The monster rootpack is a great recovery tool and highly recommended to have on an extra sd card.
Get a few 2-4gb sd cards, class 4 is fine. Should be pretty cheap and easy to find. Then you can make a bunch of bootable cards to play with like honeycomb and froyo.

Alright cool,
autonooter it is. Will I still be able to get CWMRecovery? I still want to overclock and the only way I know how to flash is through cwmrecovery.
Sorry for all these questions!

I've read some folks are having issues getting stuck in CWM on 1.1 but don't remember why. Poke around in the devl threads and see.
Sent from my nootered Nook Color.

I hear the best is to:
run oobe.
turn off wifi
update to 1.0.1 if not already on it (NOT 1.1)
run autonooter 2.3.x
install CWM (or does autonooter do that?)
nandroid restore stock rooted 1.1
then you have working CWM and 1.1 if i am not mistaken? This is my plan, mine is in the box, waiting to open it on my bday!

bandroidx said:
I hear the best is to:
run oobe.
turn off wifi
update to 1.0.1 if not already on it (NOT 1.1)
run autonooter 2.3.x
install CWM (or does autonooter do that?)
nandroid restore stock rooted 1.1
then you have working CWM and 1.1 if i am not mistaken? This is my plan, mine is in the box, waiting to open it on my bday!
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No, Autonooter does not install CWM. You need to download ROM Manager from Market and install CWM from within ROM Manager. Good luck and happy birthday!

[Q] Is their any advantage to staying at 1.0?

I bought a nook color yesterday so I could get in on the rooting and roming fun as well. It came with 1.0, which I've already rooted and am now running HC from an SD card. A bit slow, so I'm planning on trying to install it internally. 2 Questions:
1. Is their any reason I should stay at 1.0? Or should I upgrade to 1.01 or 1.1? Will I be able to go back to 1.0 if I want using the 8 reboot method?
2. If I install HC to the internal memory, will I be able to restore to stock? I'm not sure I'm going to keep this device yet so I don't want to do something that will make it impossible to return to stock.
Thanks

1: No, there is no benefit to staying at 1.0.0. If you want to stick with stock eclair then upgrade to 1.1.0, the update fixed some WiFi issues. To revert back to an older "save" install clockwork mod via rom manager and make a backup. That backup can be reflashed whenever from whatever.
2:I don't know what you're confusing GB for but so far only Eclair/Froyo/HoneyComb currently run on the nook color. Yes you can revert back to any older CWM backup from any install on your eMMC. There are stock flashable images in the dev forum, so don't worry about not being able to go back to stock.
Good luck. Have fun.

woot1524 said:
1: No, there is no benefit to staying at 1.0.0. If you want to stick with stock eclair then upgrade to 1.1.0, the update fixed some WiFi issues. To revert back to an older "save" install clockwork mod via rom manager and make a backup. That backup can be reflashed whenever from whatever.
2:I don't know what you're confusing GB for but so far only Eclair/Froyo/HoneyComb currently run on the nook color. Yes you can revert back to any older CWM backup from any install on your eMMC. There are stock flashable images in the dev forum, so don't worry about not being able to go back to stock.
Good luck. Have fun.
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sorry, typo, i meant HC not GB. who can keep them straight these days? thanks for your answers. i've read reports of people having various problems with 1.1.0, it seems the consensus is 1.01 is the version to be on.

OneStepAhead said:
sorry, typo, i meant HC not GB. who can keep them straight these days? thanks for your answers. i've read reports of people having various problems with 1.1.0, it seems the consensus is 1.01 is the version to be on.
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I think the problems you're talking about stem from upgrading an already rooted 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 with clockwork mod installed. If you start with a fresh(no root/CWM) 1.0.0 install then upgrade to 1.1.0 via b&n, then root it; you're in the clear.
But why bother with all of that when nookie Froyo 6.8 on eMMC is stable and performing beautifully.

OneStepAhead said:
I bought a nook color yesterday so I could get in on the rooting and roming fun as well. It came with 1.0, which I've already rooted and am now running HC from an SD card. A bit slow, so I'm planning on trying to install it internally. 2 Questions:
1. Is their any reason I should stay at 1.0? Or should I upgrade to 1.01 or 1.1? Will I be able to go back to 1.0 if I want using the 8 reboot method?
2. If I install HC to the internal memory, will I be able to restore to stock? I'm not sure I'm going to keep this device yet so I don't want to do something that will make it impossible to return to stock.
Thanks
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1. none that I could ever see... must've fixed something to warrant two updates although I believe that both were mostly for WiFi but I never had problems with 1.0 or 1.01...
...now I'm just wondering where the new B&N updates are as IIRC they had TWO slated for February and it's getting to be kind of late in the month to push out two updates... might just as well do one big one now... hope that they're skipping Android 2.2 and going straight to 2.3 or 3.0...

woot1524 said:
I think the problems you're talking about stem from upgrading an already rooted 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 with clockwork mod installed. If you start with a fresh(no root/CWM) 1.0.0 install then upgrade to 1.1.0 via b&n, then root it; you're in the clear.
But why bother with all of that when nookie Froyo 6.8 on eMMC is stable and performing beautifully.
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Well the only reason I bought a Nook Color was to play with Honeycomb, dont have much interest in running Froyo, I can do that on my EVO already

One reason to stay with one of the stock ROMs is if you want to use the B&N reader and B&N kids functionality, which are not part of the froyo or HC ROMs. I personally use it a lot and hope they'll get ported over.

eyecrispy said:
One reason to stay with one of the stock ROMs is if you want to use the B&N reader and B&N kids functionality, which are not part of the froyo or HC ROMs. I personally use it a lot and hope they'll get ported over.
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Im sure thats important to many people, although I strictly bought this to play with Honeycomb. Now that I've got it running, I'm wondering what I'll actually use this device for? I can already do all this stuff on my EVO and the screen size isn't that much bigger. It sure had been fun messing with it though! Why B&N didnt enable some of this functionality out of the box I'll never understand!

Nook Color 1.2 & ROM Manager rom installation of CM7

I may have made a huge mistake.
I just purchased a Nook Color version 1.2, and successfully rooted it using ManualNooter 4.5.2. Everything was working pretty much, and I didn't think to check, but went into ROM Mananger, downloaded CM Mod 7.0.2 I believe, and installed it.
It rebooted, installed, and now is stuck at the boot screen (where the word color is rainbow flashing).
No backup (yeah I know...)
Where should I go from here?

Is there a way to flash the Stock 1.2 via CMW? I can get to that screen, but I need a way to install a .zip that will work...
For now I am going to flash to 1.0.1. I can just upgrade over wifi to 1.2 and then re-root, correct?

Figured it out. Flashed to 1.0.1, and then upgraded to 1.2. Now to re-root again haha. What a process!

If you just want to play with CM7, you don't need to root. You can install to SD without touching the 1.2 installation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
If you want a little simpler, step-by-step version of those instructions, google "anamardoll nook cm7."
The bootable SD you make can also flash CMW to your NC without rooting or otherwise disturbing the 1.2 install. Just make sure you get a suitable SD if you're planning to run CM7 off of it--this thread breaks down what to look for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633

Best option for NC 1.4.3 unrooted

I apologize in advance if this has been asked before, but I searched and couldn't find anything.
I never rooted my Nook Color (firmware 1.4.3) because I like the simplicity of it and I only really wanted to read books on it.
However now I wanted to install other readers so that I could read other formats without having to convert to epub or pdf.
I tried downgrading to 1.2.0 but it still doesn't let me install other apps.
What would be my best option?
Is there any way to do this without rooting?
I'm not afraid of tweaking, I just prefer the stock firmware to use as an ebook reader.
Best regards,
Rita

Best Option According to me
Rita,
Sincerely the best option for you right now is to run CyanogenMod 7 off an SD Card, a port of Android 2.3 for your device. I have a Nook Color too. I used to love stock but the lack of functionality made me install CM7. There are many easy to follow guides available on the internet. If you would like I can tell you how to install CM7 on an SD Card. That way you can enjoy both stock and CM7. Cheers!

ritibelle said:
I apologize in advance if this has been asked before, but I searched and couldn't find anything.
I never rooted my Nook Color (firmware 1.4.3) because I like the simplicity of it and I only really wanted to read books on it.
However now I wanted to install other readers so that I could read other formats without having to convert to epub or pdf.
I tried downgrading to 1.2.0 but it still doesn't let me install other apps.
What would be my best option?
Is there any way to do this without rooting?
I'm not afraid of tweaking, I just prefer the stock firmware to use as an ebook reader.
Best regards,
Rita
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You can do what the prior user recommended (CM7 on SD) and also go back to the latest stock software on internal memory and root it. Then you can decide which you want to use. If you look in my tips thread linked in my signature you will see how to flash the lastest unrooted stock software with CWM recovery. Look at my item A12. Then you can root it with Manual Nooter 5.08.20. You can add other apps with unrooted stock but only from the B&N app store. If you want more apps than that, you must root.

@satya-1998: I've already tried installing CM7 on a sd card and I liked it, just not for reading. As an ebook reader I really enjoy the simplicity of the stock firmware.
@leapinlar: I've already put the latest firmware on the nook (1.4.3) and I think rooting will be my best option. Will rooting and using manual nooter 5.8.20 keep the B&N functions and allow me to install other apps?
Do you think following this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494901) would be the way to go?
Thank you both for your help, Rita

ritibelle said:
@leapinlar: I've already put the latest firmware on the nook (1.4.3) and I think rooting will be my best option. Will rooting and using manual nooter 5.8.20 keep the B&N functions and allow me to install other apps?
Do you think following this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494901) would be the way to go?
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Yes to both.

I did it!!!
And as far as I can tell everythig is working great.
Now I just have to learn how to work with the android part of it.
Thank you very much for the help, Rita

What did you do? Bootable uSD or root?

bobstro said:
What did you do? Bootable uSD or root?
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I followed the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22480277), so rooted and used manual nooter 5.8.20.

Ok, now that you have rooted your nook, you can keep it at stock and also keep CM7 on the SD card. If you like the B&N reading, download the Nook app for android onto cm7. Cheers...

ritibelle said:
I did it!!!
And as far as I can tell everythig is working great.
Now I just have to learn how to work with the android part of it.
Thank you very much for the help, Rita
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Congrats!!!! You will never go back to straight stock!!!!

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satya-1998 said:
Rita,
Sincerely the best option for you right now is to run CyanogenMod 7 off an SD Card, a port of Android 2.3 for your device. I have a Nook Color too. I used to love stock but the lack of functionality made me install CM7. There are many easy to follow guides available on the internet. If you would like I can tell you how to install CM7 on an SD Card. That way you can enjoy both stock and CM7. Cheers!
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do you have a link for loading cm7 on a sd card so you could boot between stock and cm7. my firmware is 1.4.3

hotelbeehive69 said:
do you have a link for loading cm7 on a sd card so you could boot between stock and cm7. my firmware is 1.4.3
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Use this simplified guide.
http://taosaur.blogspot.com/2011/09/running-cyanogenmod-7-from-sd-nook.html

You can try a dual boot from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959461&page=1
But I recommend going with booting off an SD card. Much easier, and although it can be a PITA swapping SD cards, you dont run the risk of losing partition space, or having a problem if you have to go to BN for whatever reason.

[Q] restored to stock, but cyanoboot still there

I installed CM10.1 on my 2-week old nook HD+, following these (excellent) instructions.
Actually before that I was having charging problems - the charging light went green occasionally when the nook was plugged in, even when the battery was low, and so it thought it was charged and stopped charging.
Anyway, this charging problem got worse and worse, so I restored to the backup of my stock rom, confirmed the problem, discussed it with nook support and they said return it.
My problem:
The nook appears to be back to how it was in all but one respect: if (within the stock OS) I "erase and deregister" to do a factory reset, in the reboot sequence it comes up with cyanoboot and says something like "this is not rooted, do you want to root it?", if I click no it continues, and looks like a normal stock nook hd+.
My question: How can I remove this cyanoboot, so everything really is exactly how I bought it?
Thanks a million.

catchafallingstar said:
I installed CM10.1 on my 2-week old nook HD+, following these (excellent) instructions.
Actually before that I was having charging problems - the charging light went green occasionally when the nook was plugged in, even when the battery was low, and so it thought it was charged and stopped charging.
Anyway, this charging problem got worse and worse, so I restored to the backup of my stock rom, confirmed the problem, discussed it with nook support and they said return it.
My problem:
The nook appears to be back to how it was in all but one respect: if (within the stock OS) I "erase and deregister" to do a factory reset, in the reboot sequence it comes up with cyanoboot and says something like "this is not rooted, do you want to root it?", if I click no it continues, and looks like a normal stock nook hd+.
My question: How can I remove this cyanoboot, so everything really is exactly how I bought it?
Thanks a million.
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I literally just did the same thing. I was trying to install CM to SDCard, but must have gotten the wrong rom or boot image (I can't remember which decides where to actually install the ROM). Now I'm getting prompted to setup my CyanogenMod account.

sflesch said:
I literally just did the same thing. I was trying to install CM to SDCard, but must have gotten the wrong rom or boot image (I can't remember which decides where to actually install the ROM). Now I'm getting prompted to setup my CyanogenMod account.
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For both of you, go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and read items 5 and 6. A restore of a backed up stock will restore most of stock, but if you also put a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) on internal memory, it will not restore the stock recovery.
The solution for both of you is to flash one of my plain stock ROMs from item 6. Be sure to factory reset with recovery too.
Edit: And for you sflesch, the Nook HD/HD+ is different than the Nook Color, it is the ROM zip itself that determines where the ROM gets installed. You must get a specially prepared ROM directly from an SD thread here for it to install on SD. Any ROMs you get directly from CM will install to internal memory no matter which CWM you use.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

leapinlar said:
The solution for both of you is to flash one of my plain stock ROMs from item 6. Be sure to factory reset with recovery too.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. That solved it...
Donation coming your way.

leapinlar said:
For both of you, go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and read items 5 and 6. A restore of a backed up stock will restore most of stock, but if you also put a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) on internal memory, it will not restore the stock recovery.
The solution for both of you is to flash one of my plain stock ROMs from item 6. Be sure to factory reset with recovery too.
Edit: And for you sflesch, the Nook HD/HD+ is different than the Nook Color, it is the ROM zip itself that determines where the ROM gets installed. You must get a specially prepared ROM directly from an SD thread here for it to install on SD. Any ROMs you get directly from CM will install to internal memory no matter which CWM you use.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Thanks! Sorry for the other post. I figured I would share here, but you beat me to it. So I did reset factory before the rom install, and get Cwm boot screen, then bn stock. Is that because I used the rooted rom?

sflesch said:
Thanks! Sorry for the other post. I figured I would share here, but you beat me to it. So I did reset factory before the rom install, and get Cwm boot screen, then bn stock. Is that because I used the rooted rom?
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Yes, the new root adds that.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

leapinlar said:
Yes, the new root adds that.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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So the rooted ROM 2.1.1 will have cwm installed on the firmware of the device? I realize (at least I think) that's always been the case wen you root a device, but I always associated rooting a device with installing a CM flavor. I guess I was just thinking rooted stock means stock wit root access, not realizing you had to have cwm also.
p.s. I'll send another beer your way later this week.

sflesch said:
So the rooted ROM 2.1.1 will have cwm installed on the firmware of the device? I realize (at least I think) that's always been the case wen you root a device, but I always associated rooting a device with installing a CM flavor. I guess I was just thinking rooted stock means stock wit root access, not realizing you had to have cwm also.
p.s. I'll send another beer your way later this week.
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No it does not have CWM. It has Cyanoboot as a second bootloader to help break the protection scheme. That is what you are seeing. If you want CWM on internal memory you must flash it separately.
And you are right, rooting is adding root access to an existing ROM, not installing CM. CM happens to be already made with root access, but installing CM is not rooting.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

leapinlar said:
No it does not have CWM. It has Cyanoboot as a second bootloader to help break the protection scheme. That is what you are seeing. If you want CWM on internal memory you must flash it separately.
And you are right, rooting is adding root access to an existing ROM, not installing CM. CM happens to be already made with root access, but installing CM is not rooting.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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I should know better than to mix up my terminology and pay more attention. Yes, Cyanoboot I think is what I was seeing. So, in short, is there a way to get root access/install from unknown sources, etc. without actually having the Cyanoboot screen? My Nook is still under warranty and, although I generally trust you guys, I'm afraid I may mess something up myself and render it useless.

sflesch said:
I should know better than to mix up my terminology and pay more attention. Yes, Cyanoboot I think is what I was seeing. So, in short, is there a way to get root access/install from unknown sources, etc. without actually having the Cyanoboot screen? My Nook is still under warranty and, although I generally trust you guys, I'm afraid I may mess something up myself and render it useless.
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Yes, you can use the old root. And you don't need root for unknown sources.
Edit: You will need to flash the plain stock ROM to remove the second bootloader and root files first.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.