[Q] restored to stock, but cyanoboot still there - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I installed CM10.1 on my 2-week old nook HD+, following these (excellent) instructions.
Actually before that I was having charging problems - the charging light went green occasionally when the nook was plugged in, even when the battery was low, and so it thought it was charged and stopped charging.
Anyway, this charging problem got worse and worse, so I restored to the backup of my stock rom, confirmed the problem, discussed it with nook support and they said return it.
My problem:
The nook appears to be back to how it was in all but one respect: if (within the stock OS) I "erase and deregister" to do a factory reset, in the reboot sequence it comes up with cyanoboot and says something like "this is not rooted, do you want to root it?", if I click no it continues, and looks like a normal stock nook hd+.
My question: How can I remove this cyanoboot, so everything really is exactly how I bought it?
Thanks a million.

catchafallingstar said:
I installed CM10.1 on my 2-week old nook HD+, following these (excellent) instructions.
Actually before that I was having charging problems - the charging light went green occasionally when the nook was plugged in, even when the battery was low, and so it thought it was charged and stopped charging.
Anyway, this charging problem got worse and worse, so I restored to the backup of my stock rom, confirmed the problem, discussed it with nook support and they said return it.
My problem:
The nook appears to be back to how it was in all but one respect: if (within the stock OS) I "erase and deregister" to do a factory reset, in the reboot sequence it comes up with cyanoboot and says something like "this is not rooted, do you want to root it?", if I click no it continues, and looks like a normal stock nook hd+.
My question: How can I remove this cyanoboot, so everything really is exactly how I bought it?
Thanks a million.
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I literally just did the same thing. I was trying to install CM to SDCard, but must have gotten the wrong rom or boot image (I can't remember which decides where to actually install the ROM). Now I'm getting prompted to setup my CyanogenMod account.

sflesch said:
I literally just did the same thing. I was trying to install CM to SDCard, but must have gotten the wrong rom or boot image (I can't remember which decides where to actually install the ROM). Now I'm getting prompted to setup my CyanogenMod account.
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For both of you, go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and read items 5 and 6. A restore of a backed up stock will restore most of stock, but if you also put a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) on internal memory, it will not restore the stock recovery.
The solution for both of you is to flash one of my plain stock ROMs from item 6. Be sure to factory reset with recovery too.
Edit: And for you sflesch, the Nook HD/HD+ is different than the Nook Color, it is the ROM zip itself that determines where the ROM gets installed. You must get a specially prepared ROM directly from an SD thread here for it to install on SD. Any ROMs you get directly from CM will install to internal memory no matter which CWM you use.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

leapinlar said:
The solution for both of you is to flash one of my plain stock ROMs from item 6. Be sure to factory reset with recovery too.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. That solved it...
Donation coming your way.

leapinlar said:
For both of you, go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and read items 5 and 6. A restore of a backed up stock will restore most of stock, but if you also put a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) on internal memory, it will not restore the stock recovery.
The solution for both of you is to flash one of my plain stock ROMs from item 6. Be sure to factory reset with recovery too.
Edit: And for you sflesch, the Nook HD/HD+ is different than the Nook Color, it is the ROM zip itself that determines where the ROM gets installed. You must get a specially prepared ROM directly from an SD thread here for it to install on SD. Any ROMs you get directly from CM will install to internal memory no matter which CWM you use.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Thanks! Sorry for the other post. I figured I would share here, but you beat me to it. So I did reset factory before the rom install, and get Cwm boot screen, then bn stock. Is that because I used the rooted rom?

sflesch said:
Thanks! Sorry for the other post. I figured I would share here, but you beat me to it. So I did reset factory before the rom install, and get Cwm boot screen, then bn stock. Is that because I used the rooted rom?
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Yes, the new root adds that.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

leapinlar said:
Yes, the new root adds that.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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So the rooted ROM 2.1.1 will have cwm installed on the firmware of the device? I realize (at least I think) that's always been the case wen you root a device, but I always associated rooting a device with installing a CM flavor. I guess I was just thinking rooted stock means stock wit root access, not realizing you had to have cwm also.
p.s. I'll send another beer your way later this week.

sflesch said:
So the rooted ROM 2.1.1 will have cwm installed on the firmware of the device? I realize (at least I think) that's always been the case wen you root a device, but I always associated rooting a device with installing a CM flavor. I guess I was just thinking rooted stock means stock wit root access, not realizing you had to have cwm also.
p.s. I'll send another beer your way later this week.
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No it does not have CWM. It has Cyanoboot as a second bootloader to help break the protection scheme. That is what you are seeing. If you want CWM on internal memory you must flash it separately.
And you are right, rooting is adding root access to an existing ROM, not installing CM. CM happens to be already made with root access, but installing CM is not rooting.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

leapinlar said:
No it does not have CWM. It has Cyanoboot as a second bootloader to help break the protection scheme. That is what you are seeing. If you want CWM on internal memory you must flash it separately.
And you are right, rooting is adding root access to an existing ROM, not installing CM. CM happens to be already made with root access, but installing CM is not rooting.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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I should know better than to mix up my terminology and pay more attention. Yes, Cyanoboot I think is what I was seeing. So, in short, is there a way to get root access/install from unknown sources, etc. without actually having the Cyanoboot screen? My Nook is still under warranty and, although I generally trust you guys, I'm afraid I may mess something up myself and render it useless.

sflesch said:
I should know better than to mix up my terminology and pay more attention. Yes, Cyanoboot I think is what I was seeing. So, in short, is there a way to get root access/install from unknown sources, etc. without actually having the Cyanoboot screen? My Nook is still under warranty and, although I generally trust you guys, I'm afraid I may mess something up myself and render it useless.
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Yes, you can use the old root. And you don't need root for unknown sources.
Edit: You will need to flash the plain stock ROM to remove the second bootloader and root files first.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

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Help with bricked NC!

I got the NC from overstock for a good deal. I am pretty savvy technically and have rooted phones, returned to stock from a bricked android phone, etc.
So I got a blue dot 1.2 NC. I was initially planning to do a repartition and then install CM7. Thats how I started. I created a bootable CWM 3.08 uSD card. Ran the repartitioning script (from here). That went well.
Then I was reading about rooting and saw the Manual Nooter thread: this one
On a whim I ran the manual Nooter install, which ran well too ( I later realised that this was for STOCK 1.2 )
Then I installed CM7, gapps and OC kernel in that order which completed successfully too.
Now, when I start the NC, I am stuck at the n COLOR animation. Tried clearing data, cache, etc but nothing works.
How do I get out of this pickle? I am itching to use my first android tablet! Thanks for your help..
pspTP said:
I got the NC from overstock for a good deal. I am pretty savvy technically and have rooted phones, returned to stock from a bricked android phone, etc.
So I got a blue dot 1.2 NC. I was initially planning to do a repartition and then install CM7. Thats how I started. I created a bootable CWM 3.08 uSD card. Ran the repartitioning script (from here). That went well.
Then I was reading about rooting and saw the Manual Nooter thread: this one
On a whim I ran the manual Nooter install, which ran well too ( I later realised that this was for STOCK 1.2 )
Then I installed CM7, gapps and OC kernel in that order which completed successfully too.
Now, when I start the NC, I am stuck at the n COLOR animation. Tried clearing data, cache, etc but nothing works.
How do I get out of this pickle? I am itching to use my first android tablet! Thanks for your help..
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Since you are working with the blue dot, you need to upgrade your bootable CWM to version 3.2.0.1. That versions is designed with support for the blue bot. I would then rerun the repartitioning, since most likely it did not work right with the old CWM. At that point you should be able to wipe the system and install CM7, gapps, and OC.
GMPOWER said:
Since you are working with the blue dot, you need to upgrade your bootable CWM to version 3.2.0.1. That versions is designed with support for the blue bot. I would then rerun the repartitioning, since most likely it did not work right with the old CWM. At that point you should be able to wipe the system and install CM7, gapps, and OC.
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Thanks I will give that a try tonight and report back.
Newby Thoughts
What's a blue dot?
I'm a newby at this but why not start with a factory reset then build up to what you want. Sounds from your posts that you've just been throwing different things at it and somehow expecting things to work. Like I say, newby thoughts but the factory reset and step by step has worked for me--and apparently many others. Let us know if you try and how it works.
OTC
GMPOWER said:
Since you are working with the blue dot, you need to upgrade your bootable CWM to version 3.2.0.1. That versions is designed with support for the blue bot. I would then rerun the repartitioning, since most likely it did not work right with the old CWM. At that point you should be able to wipe the system and install CM7, gapps, and OC.
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Thanks gmpower. That seemed to do the trick. I used CWM 321 and also made sure I did a data system and cache format before I installed CM7. The NC booted into CM7 and everything looks great now
Appreciate your help!
The blue dot is a sign on a box that the new nook is with a new partition setup , rather than what was originally provided with the nook.
Cuhulin said:
The blue dot is a sign on a box that the new nook is with a new partition setup , rather than what was originally provided with the nook.
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if you want to swap partitions back to 'old' setup,
which i did, DeanGibson's thread is good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371
now have 5 gb for storage - music, books, etc.
quick question, didn't the nook from overstock come with 1.2 stock?
i rooted my overstock blue dot one and am having weird power issues, so i was curious if it was a hardware failure or something with manual nooter?
thanks!
Cuhulin said:
The blue dot is a sign on a box that the new nook is with a new partition setup , rather than what was originally provided with the nook.
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does anyone know when these models became pervasive on the market? I have a friend who got a nook after me (mine was March, his in April I guess) and we had trouble following the process with his (which worked great for mine) and I'm just now realizing he may have the new one...
dag16 said:
quick question, didn't the nook from overstock come with 1.2 stock?
i rooted my overstock blue dot one and am having weird power issues, so i was curious if it was a hardware failure or something with manual nooter?
thanks!
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Yes I think my nook from OS came with 1.2 stock. It had the blue dot on the box. I initially turned it on and registered the device on the BN network. Following which I tried the whole rooting and custom ROM thing.
In my case I think using CWM 3.0.8 caused the issues I was having. Switching to 3.2.1 I was good to go.
What are these weird power issues that you are having?
pspTP said:
Yes I think my nook from OS came with 1.2 stock. It had the blue dot on the box. I initially turned it on and registered the device on the BN network. Following which I tried the whole rooting and custom ROM thing.
In my case I think using CWM 3.0.8 caused the issues I was having. Switching to 3.2.1 I was good to go.
What are these weird power issues that you are having?
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Thanks for the info.
Mine kept powering off randomly and constantly. I unrooted and restored stock, and it still persisted, so warranty replacement on the way!

v1.3 to 4-6-16

I installed manualnooter-4-5-18 with no problem. But when I install manualnooter-4-6-16 device gets stuck on colorful Nook Color logo show.
My version is 1.3.
I also need some advice:
1. Isn't it better to use cm-7.2.0-encore instead of original OS? I can't decide.
2. Shouldn't I update to more recent versions of nook software (higher than 1.3) then mod it?
Thank you for software and support
siavoshkc said:
I installed manualnooter-4-5-18 with no problem. But when I install manualnooter-4-6-16 device gets stuck on colorful Nook Color logo show.
I version is 1.3.
I also need some advice:
1. Isn't it better to use cm-7.2.0-encore instead of original OS? I can't decide.
2. Shouldn't I update to more recent versions of nook software (higher than 1.3) then mod it?
Thank you for software and support
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It depends on what you want.
If you are invested in the nook store with lots of purchased apps or want to read interactive kids books, stay with stock. If you stay with stock, upgrade to 1.4.3 (you can get a CWM flashable version by looking in my tips thread linked in my signature) and root with Manual Nooter. I think it is up to 5.08.20.
If you are not invested in stock, definitely go to CM7.2. It is smooth and very stable.
leapinlar said:
It depends on what you want.
If you are invested in the nook store with lots of purchased apps or want to read interactive kids books, stay with stock. If you stay with stock, upgrade to 1.4.3 (you can get a CWM flashable version by looking in my tips thread linked in my signature) and root with Manual Nooter. I think it is up to 5.08.20.
If you are not invested in stock, definitely go to CM7.2. It is smooth and very stable.
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So I decided to go with CM7.2 but
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
says it only works with 1.2. I got the link to wiki from here.
And one technical question, does CM7.2 remove original Nook Color OS completely? If so why its version matters?
siavoshkc said:
So I decided to go with CM7.2 but
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
says it only works with 1.2. I got the link to wiki from here.
And one technical question, does CM7.2 remove original Nook Color OS completely? If so why its version matters?
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Yes, if you install CMx on EMMC it will replace B&N ROM on the device.
That is an old instruction... The reason that method only works with 1.2 is because they have you rooting it and installing CWM on EMMC. By making a bootable SD and installing CMx from there, there is no reason to root the B&N ROM before installation... so you can install it regardless of ROM on you NookColor.
DizzyDen said:
Yes, if you install CMx on EMMC it will replace B&N ROM on the device.
That is an old instruction... The reason that method only works with 1.2 is because they have you rooting it and installing CWM on EMMC. By making a bootable SD and installing CMx from there, there is no reason to root the B&N ROM before installation... so you can install it regardless of ROM on you NookColor.
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So I just copy the CM into the flash (that I had made it bootable with CWM) and install CM from there. I create a backup using CWM.

CM 10.1 Upgrade Procedure

Given that CM 10.1 is still a work in progress, I was looking to see if there was some kind of typical upgrade procedure. Flashing the new ROM is going to essentially wipe the device... is there a 3rd party app that can backup your data? Is it pretty standard to just go through and reinstall everything from scratch?
Thanks!
PenduncleSwazzle said:
Given that CM 10.1 is still a work in progress, I was looking to see if there was some kind of typical upgrade procedure. Flashing the new ROM is going to essentially wipe the device... is there a 3rd party app that can backup your data? Is it pretty standard to just go through and reinstall everything from scratch?
Thanks!
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If you read the upgrade guides they recommend that you use the same tool (CWM) that you do the flashing with to first backup your existing ROM.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
But this is a backup of the ROM, which from what I understand would have nothing to do with getting things set up once the new version of CM is flashed, correct?
PenduncleSwazzle said:
But this is a backup of the ROM, which from what I understand would have nothing to do with getting things set up once the new version of CM is flashed, correct?
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You could root stock using my guide in my HD/HD+ CWM guide linked in my signature, then install Titanium Backup (TB requires root) and backup your installed apps. Then after you install CM10.1 to emmc, you can use titanium backup to restore your installed apps. That does not restore your system settings, but you don't want to anyway since they are different systems.
I thought you meant backing up the ROM, not your installed apps. You talked about a work-in-progress and I thought maybe you wanted to be able to go back to stock if you did not like it.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

help getting nook hd back to stock

stupid me didn't backup and i upgraded to the hd+ and want to return the hd to office max. i read leapinlar thread and for the life of me i cant find the zip download or directions on how to return to stock on hd. i have cm 10.1 installed with custom recovery. sorry guys lots of info on the pages and i must be missing it or i am confused lol. i tried to change the npk to zip and do it but i get a bad error. forget it. found them. hope it works
Make a backup of what you have for use if flashing plain stock fails. There are links to plain stock files in item 6 of leapinlar's Android Development thread about Stock and Extras on the first message. Be warned, I had trouble with it before I restored a stock backup I'd made prior to installing cm 10.1. Once stock is onboard you can use the advanced menu to reformat the internal data and data/media (sdcard). You can also reregister and do a deregister once stock is onboard. BTW, OfficeMax here stipulates a 15% fee on returns.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM 10.1 from emmc

[Q] Unwanted revert back to stock

I am at a loss here. I tried to do a search but was unable to find anything after wading through a bunch of threads.
My problem is my Nook HD+ has rverted back to it's original software WITHOUT me wanting it to do so.
I have been running Cyanogenmod 10.1 for several weeks on it without issue. Today when I went to fire it up, it booted and dropped me into the 'Hi, welcome to your NOOK' page.
I thought that when I installed the Cyanomodgen that the original software was wiped from it? That is why I did the backup prior to starting it for the first time.
Any thought from anyone?
TIA
68droptop said:
I am at a loss here. I tried to do a search but was unable to find anything after wading through a bunch of threads.
My problem is my Nook HD+ has rverted back to it's original software WITHOUT me wanting it to do so.
I have been running Cyanogenmod 10.1 for several weeks on it without issue. Today when I went to fire it up, it booted and dropped me into the 'Hi, welcome to your NOOK' page.
I thought that when I installed the Cyanomodgen that the original software was wiped from it? That is why I did the backup prior to starting it for the first time.
Any thought from anyone?
TIA
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Did you install EMMC or hybrid/sd card? Only EMMC wipes the nook software completely out. The other hybrid/sd card method just install a boot loader and CM beside the stock software allowing you to use either.
If you went hybrid/sd card, the nook update 2.1.1 has changed something to cause nook to boot stock instead of CM. I don't know enough to know what exactly the update changed, but hopefully searching for nook update will lead you to a solution.
If you installed EMMC, then I'm at a loss, since the stock software is gone... and don't know how it would have been re-installed.
Wish I could be more helpful, good luck.
dagem said:
Did you install EMMC or hybrid/sd card? Only EMMC wipes the nook software completely out. The other hybrid/sd card method just install a boot loader and CM beside the stock software allowing you to use either.
If you went hybrid/sd card, the nook update 2.1.1 has changed something to cause nook to boot stock instead of CM. I don't know enough to know what exactly the update changed, but hopefully searching for nook update will lead you to a solution.
If you installed EMMC, then I'm at a loss, since the stock software is gone... and don't know how it would have been re-installed.
Wish I could be more helpful, good luck.
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Thanks for the reply.
I used the SD method from in the wiki here:
/slickdeals.net/f/6172038-16GB-Barnes-Noble-Nook-HD-9-1080p-WiFi-Tablet-140-Free-Shipping-eBay-Daily-Deal-it-s-back?
So I assume that I am toast since it reformatted itself and I likely wiped everything?
Crap.
Time to start again. Maybe I will read up on EMMC.

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