Given that CM 10.1 is still a work in progress, I was looking to see if there was some kind of typical upgrade procedure. Flashing the new ROM is going to essentially wipe the device... is there a 3rd party app that can backup your data? Is it pretty standard to just go through and reinstall everything from scratch?
Thanks!
PenduncleSwazzle said:
Given that CM 10.1 is still a work in progress, I was looking to see if there was some kind of typical upgrade procedure. Flashing the new ROM is going to essentially wipe the device... is there a 3rd party app that can backup your data? Is it pretty standard to just go through and reinstall everything from scratch?
Thanks!
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If you read the upgrade guides they recommend that you use the same tool (CWM) that you do the flashing with to first backup your existing ROM.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
But this is a backup of the ROM, which from what I understand would have nothing to do with getting things set up once the new version of CM is flashed, correct?
PenduncleSwazzle said:
But this is a backup of the ROM, which from what I understand would have nothing to do with getting things set up once the new version of CM is flashed, correct?
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You could root stock using my guide in my HD/HD+ CWM guide linked in my signature, then install Titanium Backup (TB requires root) and backup your installed apps. Then after you install CM10.1 to emmc, you can use titanium backup to restore your installed apps. That does not restore your system settings, but you don't want to anyway since they are different systems.
I thought you meant backing up the ROM, not your installed apps. You talked about a work-in-progress and I thought maybe you wanted to be able to go back to stock if you did not like it.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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I installed manualnooter-4-5-18 with no problem. But when I install manualnooter-4-6-16 device gets stuck on colorful Nook Color logo show.
My version is 1.3.
I also need some advice:
1. Isn't it better to use cm-7.2.0-encore instead of original OS? I can't decide.
2. Shouldn't I update to more recent versions of nook software (higher than 1.3) then mod it?
Thank you for software and support
siavoshkc said:
I installed manualnooter-4-5-18 with no problem. But when I install manualnooter-4-6-16 device gets stuck on colorful Nook Color logo show.
I version is 1.3.
I also need some advice:
1. Isn't it better to use cm-7.2.0-encore instead of original OS? I can't decide.
2. Shouldn't I update to more recent versions of nook software (higher than 1.3) then mod it?
Thank you for software and support
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It depends on what you want.
If you are invested in the nook store with lots of purchased apps or want to read interactive kids books, stay with stock. If you stay with stock, upgrade to 1.4.3 (you can get a CWM flashable version by looking in my tips thread linked in my signature) and root with Manual Nooter. I think it is up to 5.08.20.
If you are not invested in stock, definitely go to CM7.2. It is smooth and very stable.
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It depends on what you want.
If you are invested in the nook store with lots of purchased apps or want to read interactive kids books, stay with stock. If you stay with stock, upgrade to 1.4.3 (you can get a CWM flashable version by looking in my tips thread linked in my signature) and root with Manual Nooter. I think it is up to 5.08.20.
If you are not invested in stock, definitely go to CM7.2. It is smooth and very stable.
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So I decided to go with CM7.2 but
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
says it only works with 1.2. I got the link to wiki from here.
And one technical question, does CM7.2 remove original Nook Color OS completely? If so why its version matters?
siavoshkc said:
So I decided to go with CM7.2 but
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
says it only works with 1.2. I got the link to wiki from here.
And one technical question, does CM7.2 remove original Nook Color OS completely? If so why its version matters?
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Yes, if you install CMx on EMMC it will replace B&N ROM on the device.
That is an old instruction... The reason that method only works with 1.2 is because they have you rooting it and installing CWM on EMMC. By making a bootable SD and installing CMx from there, there is no reason to root the B&N ROM before installation... so you can install it regardless of ROM on you NookColor.
DizzyDen said:
Yes, if you install CMx on EMMC it will replace B&N ROM on the device.
That is an old instruction... The reason that method only works with 1.2 is because they have you rooting it and installing CWM on EMMC. By making a bootable SD and installing CMx from there, there is no reason to root the B&N ROM before installation... so you can install it regardless of ROM on you NookColor.
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So I just copy the CM into the flash (that I had made it bootable with CWM) and install CM from there. I create a backup using CWM.
I have tried to restore my phone twice from two different Nandroid backups. Both times, it pretty much bricked my phone. Forcing me to recover it by flashing stock ROMs via Odin.
Have others successfully restored Samsung Captivates from Nandroid? If not, what good is making these backups?
Yes the nandroids do work.
U have to first be running on the Android platform (froyo, gb, ics, jb, etc.), Rom & kernel where u made the backup initially and then restore that backup. Otherwise a soft brick is more than likely.
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4-2ndtwin said:
Yes the nandroids do work.
U have to first be running on the Android platform (froyo, gb, ics, jb, etc.), Rom & kernel where u made the backup initially and then restore that backup. Otherwise a soft brick is more than likely.
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+1.
Like you cannot restore a GB nandroid over a JB rom because of differences in the file partition scheme. Especially the format of the modem and efs folders that do not get backed up in nandroid backups.
Sent from the wholly ROMin' empire. SGH-I897 CM10.1
Thanks for the info. That does clear up my confusion.
On the other hand, that does seem to limit the use of Nandroid backups since I usually make them when I am flashing a new ROM. In fact, "Make a Nandroid backup." Seems to be a standard instruction when flashing a new ROM.
remmons said:
Thanks for the info. That does clear up my confusion.
On the other hand, that does seem to limit the use of Nandroid backups since I usually make them when I am flashing a new ROM. In fact, "Make a Nandroid backup." Seems to be a standard instruction when flashing a new ROM.
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You don't need one every time you flash. I usually keep a backup of a good ROM/kernel mix before jumping into nightlys or new builds. And I keep that backup for the next 5-6 releases (if not more). Making nandroids every time will just fill up your SD card or you'll have to delete previous ones every time.
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You don't need one every time you flash. I usually keep a backup of a good ROM/kernel mix before jumping into nightlys or new builds. And I keep that backup for the next 5-6 releases (if not more). Making nandroids every time will just fill up your SD card or you'll have to delete previous ones every time.
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Maybe I am still confused. If I make a Nandroid backup of my phone with CM9, and then flash CM10, can I restore the Nandroid backup to go back to CM9?
remmons said:
Maybe I am still confused. If I make a Nandroid backup of my phone with CM9, and then flash CM10, can I restore the Nandroid backup to go back to CM9?
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Yes, factory reset before doing so though.
BWolf56 said:
Yes, factory reset before doing so though.
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Wow. So CWM has the smarts to reformat the JB partitions back to the ICS partition scheme in the nandroid backup, without first flashing a clean CM9 ROM?
I've never done the CM10 to CM9 path, so just seeking verification.
Thanks.
Sent from the wholly ROMin' empire. SGH-I897 CM10.1
laughingT said:
Wow. So CWM has the smarts to reformat the JB partitions back to the ICS partition scheme in the nandroid backup, without first flashing a clean CM9 ROM?
I've never done the CM10 to CM9 path, so just seeking verification.
Thanks.
Sent from the wholly ROMin' empire. SGH-I897 CM10.1
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Actually, that's a good question lol. I never went down like that as I usually go back to stock. Then again, there's no good reason to go back to ICS from JB.
Either way, losing track here. I'm not sure if it's possible but I'd assume it is as the ROM should rewrite it's own partition (I think?). A factory reset and system wipe would probably be needed.
stupid me didn't backup and i upgraded to the hd+ and want to return the hd to office max. i read leapinlar thread and for the life of me i cant find the zip download or directions on how to return to stock on hd. i have cm 10.1 installed with custom recovery. sorry guys lots of info on the pages and i must be missing it or i am confused lol. i tried to change the npk to zip and do it but i get a bad error. forget it. found them. hope it works
Make a backup of what you have for use if flashing plain stock fails. There are links to plain stock files in item 6 of leapinlar's Android Development thread about Stock and Extras on the first message. Be warned, I had trouble with it before I restored a stock backup I'd made prior to installing cm 10.1. Once stock is onboard you can use the advanced menu to reformat the internal data and data/media (sdcard). You can also reregister and do a deregister once stock is onboard. BTW, OfficeMax here stipulates a 15% fee on returns.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM 10.1 from emmc
I installed CM10.1 on my 2-week old nook HD+, following these (excellent) instructions.
Actually before that I was having charging problems - the charging light went green occasionally when the nook was plugged in, even when the battery was low, and so it thought it was charged and stopped charging.
Anyway, this charging problem got worse and worse, so I restored to the backup of my stock rom, confirmed the problem, discussed it with nook support and they said return it.
My problem:
The nook appears to be back to how it was in all but one respect: if (within the stock OS) I "erase and deregister" to do a factory reset, in the reboot sequence it comes up with cyanoboot and says something like "this is not rooted, do you want to root it?", if I click no it continues, and looks like a normal stock nook hd+.
My question: How can I remove this cyanoboot, so everything really is exactly how I bought it?
Thanks a million.
catchafallingstar said:
I installed CM10.1 on my 2-week old nook HD+, following these (excellent) instructions.
Actually before that I was having charging problems - the charging light went green occasionally when the nook was plugged in, even when the battery was low, and so it thought it was charged and stopped charging.
Anyway, this charging problem got worse and worse, so I restored to the backup of my stock rom, confirmed the problem, discussed it with nook support and they said return it.
My problem:
The nook appears to be back to how it was in all but one respect: if (within the stock OS) I "erase and deregister" to do a factory reset, in the reboot sequence it comes up with cyanoboot and says something like "this is not rooted, do you want to root it?", if I click no it continues, and looks like a normal stock nook hd+.
My question: How can I remove this cyanoboot, so everything really is exactly how I bought it?
Thanks a million.
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I literally just did the same thing. I was trying to install CM to SDCard, but must have gotten the wrong rom or boot image (I can't remember which decides where to actually install the ROM). Now I'm getting prompted to setup my CyanogenMod account.
sflesch said:
I literally just did the same thing. I was trying to install CM to SDCard, but must have gotten the wrong rom or boot image (I can't remember which decides where to actually install the ROM). Now I'm getting prompted to setup my CyanogenMod account.
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For both of you, go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and read items 5 and 6. A restore of a backed up stock will restore most of stock, but if you also put a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) on internal memory, it will not restore the stock recovery.
The solution for both of you is to flash one of my plain stock ROMs from item 6. Be sure to factory reset with recovery too.
Edit: And for you sflesch, the Nook HD/HD+ is different than the Nook Color, it is the ROM zip itself that determines where the ROM gets installed. You must get a specially prepared ROM directly from an SD thread here for it to install on SD. Any ROMs you get directly from CM will install to internal memory no matter which CWM you use.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
The solution for both of you is to flash one of my plain stock ROMs from item 6. Be sure to factory reset with recovery too.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. That solved it...
Donation coming your way.
leapinlar said:
For both of you, go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and read items 5 and 6. A restore of a backed up stock will restore most of stock, but if you also put a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) on internal memory, it will not restore the stock recovery.
The solution for both of you is to flash one of my plain stock ROMs from item 6. Be sure to factory reset with recovery too.
Edit: And for you sflesch, the Nook HD/HD+ is different than the Nook Color, it is the ROM zip itself that determines where the ROM gets installed. You must get a specially prepared ROM directly from an SD thread here for it to install on SD. Any ROMs you get directly from CM will install to internal memory no matter which CWM you use.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Thanks! Sorry for the other post. I figured I would share here, but you beat me to it. So I did reset factory before the rom install, and get Cwm boot screen, then bn stock. Is that because I used the rooted rom?
sflesch said:
Thanks! Sorry for the other post. I figured I would share here, but you beat me to it. So I did reset factory before the rom install, and get Cwm boot screen, then bn stock. Is that because I used the rooted rom?
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Yes, the new root adds that.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
Yes, the new root adds that.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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So the rooted ROM 2.1.1 will have cwm installed on the firmware of the device? I realize (at least I think) that's always been the case wen you root a device, but I always associated rooting a device with installing a CM flavor. I guess I was just thinking rooted stock means stock wit root access, not realizing you had to have cwm also.
p.s. I'll send another beer your way later this week.
sflesch said:
So the rooted ROM 2.1.1 will have cwm installed on the firmware of the device? I realize (at least I think) that's always been the case wen you root a device, but I always associated rooting a device with installing a CM flavor. I guess I was just thinking rooted stock means stock wit root access, not realizing you had to have cwm also.
p.s. I'll send another beer your way later this week.
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No it does not have CWM. It has Cyanoboot as a second bootloader to help break the protection scheme. That is what you are seeing. If you want CWM on internal memory you must flash it separately.
And you are right, rooting is adding root access to an existing ROM, not installing CM. CM happens to be already made with root access, but installing CM is not rooting.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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No it does not have CWM. It has Cyanoboot as a second bootloader to help break the protection scheme. That is what you are seeing. If you want CWM on internal memory you must flash it separately.
And you are right, rooting is adding root access to an existing ROM, not installing CM. CM happens to be already made with root access, but installing CM is not rooting.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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I should know better than to mix up my terminology and pay more attention. Yes, Cyanoboot I think is what I was seeing. So, in short, is there a way to get root access/install from unknown sources, etc. without actually having the Cyanoboot screen? My Nook is still under warranty and, although I generally trust you guys, I'm afraid I may mess something up myself and render it useless.
sflesch said:
I should know better than to mix up my terminology and pay more attention. Yes, Cyanoboot I think is what I was seeing. So, in short, is there a way to get root access/install from unknown sources, etc. without actually having the Cyanoboot screen? My Nook is still under warranty and, although I generally trust you guys, I'm afraid I may mess something up myself and render it useless.
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Yes, you can use the old root. And you don't need root for unknown sources.
Edit: You will need to flash the plain stock ROM to remove the second bootloader and root files first.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Hello,
I apologize that this is my first post,but I recently flashed cm-11-20140224-NIGHTLY-ovation onto my Nook HD+ and noticed that some of my apps didn't transfer over. I tried downloading them and seeing if Google would restore them to how I had them before, but Google isn't loading my apps like they were.
I wanted to restore to my point and root my Nook HD+ so that I can use TitaniumBackup and back up the ones that aren't transferring over properly then restore them once I flash back to CM11. Is there a single method to this? I know when I hit the reboot option in CWM (flash_recovery_ovation_CWM_6.0.4.5b_internal) it asks me if I want to root and I was wondering if I should just go with that or if that risks a brick (though I haven't seen much bricking in this forum). I also took a look at leapinlar's post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613) and saw that they have a root there that I can use.
Is one better than the other? Would I need to root again once I re-flash CM11? Is there an alternative which allows me to back up my things apps with their current data without rooting? I tried Helium but it didn't seem to work for me.
Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
CyanogenMod ROMs are already rooted. You do not need to root CyanogenMod. The rooting is only for the stock ROM I believe.
As for your backup, I'm not entirely sure. I've never attempted to use TitaniumBackup to restore after upgrading the Android version. Apologies.
You can't/shouldn't use Titanium backup to restore apps/settings when you update to Android 4.4+.
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