I'm curious about the percentage of people overclocking or underclocking their Nexus 7.
34% / 18%. there.
I underclocked mine down to 1.1Ghz, see no lag or performance hit but the back of the tablet feel much cooler during use and noticed a longer battery life. I don't play 3D game nor do I care about benchmarking so running 4 cores at 1.1Ghz is plenty powerful.
Installed a 1.6ghz kernel, I didn't see too much improvement in text render times when zooming on Chrome, so I reverted to stock as that's the only thing I was hoping for a boost in.
I overclocked to 1.6ghz with GPU at 484mhz. It's underclocked when the screen is off though, to save battery in standby.
Jdbye said:
I overclocked to 1.6ghz with GPU at 484mhz. It's underclocked when the screen is off though, to save battery in standby.
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When your screen is off your cores should actually be I'm deep sleep.
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Jdbye said:
I overclocked to 1.6ghz with GPU at 484mhz. It's underclocked when the screen is off though, to save battery in standby.
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When your screen is off your cores should actually be I'm deep sleep.
sometimes i overclock to 2ghz, sometimes i underclock to 1.1ghz. it depends on the situatuon, there isnt a black or white answer, its all shades of gray. you probably wont be using one cpu speed either(unless youre unrooted). use the cpu speed that best fits the situation. if you need the device to last a long day on a single charge, then underclock. if battery juice isnt an issue, and you want the most from your device to play with, then overclock. with as easy as it is to change your cpu speed on the fly, there shouldnt only be one answer to the question.
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Jdbye said:
I overclocked to 1.6ghz with GPU at 484mhz. It's underclocked when the screen is off though, to save battery in standby.
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When your screen is off your cores should actually be I'm deep sleep.
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no matter how underclocked your device is, if its doesnt deep sleep with the screen off then youre losing battery. if it doesnt deep sleep then your device has issues. oh, and you cant underclock deep sleep.
simms22 said:
no matter how underclocked your device is, if its doesnt deep sleep with the screen off then youre losing battery. if it doesnt deep sleep then your device has issues. oh, and you cant underclock deep sleep.
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If you have music playing with screen off it won't deep sleep underclocking then with screen off would help.
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Yes I have overclocked, but I don't keep it at 1.7 ghz for the sake of my battery. I spend 6 hours in classes sometimes and I need to make sure it lasts.
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If you have music playing with screen off it won't deep sleep underclocking then with screen off would help.
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truth.
but he said to save battery in standby.
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I've undervolted my device and right now I have
100mhz - 825 mah
200mhz - 825 mah
500mhz - 800 mah
for some reason the 500mhz setting is stable and if I undervolt 100mhz/200mhz even more, I crash.
If I set my minimum processor power to 500mhz would I consume less batter than if I were to use 100mhz/200mhz?
Your phone spends most of its time in the lowest and highest cpu frequencies and just a small amount of time at the intermediate levels. Your undervolt for 500mhz probably isn't stable but it doesn't crash because it's only at that frequency for a very short amount of time. If you set the minimum to 500mhz at that voltage it will probably start playing up.
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graph of my cpu levels
Abit offtopic but what the hell!
I was wondering if there's any risks involved with undervolting?
I don't meen the crashes and freeze ups, but rather more like if there's any risk
to really damage your phone from it?
I have and still do alot of OC in the computer world, and do know what overvolting can do. But i'm still curious about what uv can do to your system.
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Your phone spends most of its time in the lowest and highest cpu frequencies and just a small amount of time at the intermediate levels. Your undervolt for 500mhz probably isn't stable but it doesn't crash because it's only at that frequency for a very short amount of time. If you set the minimum to 500mhz at that voltage it will probably start playing up.
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It's been my minimum even before posting this thread. I just started to wonder.
I've been on it for 10 hours now. I have 45% battery life left. Probably due to my 1700mhz being @ 1350mah right now.
I can assure you, it's VERY stable. It's so SMOOTH. Smoother than just having rocketrom and all that stuff. NO LAGS, NO SHUTDOWNS. ALL STABLE.
I can see better battery life, and CPU Spy says it used up 47% 1700mhz and 40% 500mhz. I think it's giving me better battery life.
It's evenly splitted up probably because I was using lulzactive governor.
but then again I didn't log my previous battery life without undervolting.
Some more insight would be nice.
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Abit offtopic but what the hell!
I was wondering if there's any risks involved with undervolting?
I don't meen the crashes and freeze ups, but rather more like if there's any risk
to really damage your phone from it?
I have and still do alot of OC in the computer world, and do know what overvolting can do. But i'm still curious about what uv can do to your system.
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There are alot of risks. Minor chance that you will cause hardware damage to your phone but I'm saying VERY minor. Just don't be stupid with voltages, like just suddenly overdropping the voltages. Your processor might die.
It's scary as hell, it crashes alot while testing and all that ****.
Feels good when you get it stable though.
TL;DR
Very slight chance to damage your hardware; only if you're very daring.
It should increase your battery life by atleast 20% if you reach the peak of your processors limit.
Bump, are there no other insights on this? Am I like, the only one who undervolted his/her note?
help
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Bump, are there no other insights on this? Am I like, the only one who undervolted his/her note?
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I want to run 1700mhz as permanent and also wanted to undervolt but i wasnt sure how much by and what the risks are. Reason being is my phone gets hot with heavy usage running at 1400mhz so didnt want to go to 1700. I'll watch this thread with interest
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I want to run 1700mhz as permanent and also wanted to undervolt but i wasnt sure how much by and what the risks are. Reason being is my phone gets hot with heavy usage running at 1400mhz so didnt want to go to 1700. I'll watch this thread with interest
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I'm running 500-1700mhz.
Indeed it does get hot at 1700mhz, when I'm playing games but I've only at most played for 4 hours straight.
For what reason would you want to run 1700mhz-1700mhz?
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I'm running 500-1700mhz.
Indeed it does get hot at 1700mhz, when I'm playing games but I've only at most played for 4 hours straight.
For what reason would you want to run 1700mhz-1700mhz?
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No sorry i meant running it at 1700 max, leaving it stock for the min. I just wanted to know how much i can safely undervolt 1700 by.
I actually have a question. I undervolted my note with SetCPU and I read that Tegrak Overclock Ultimate should be used as well together with SetCPU.
What does Tegrak Overclock do? GPU settings?
Would like to learn that part if anyone has any info.
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No sorry i meant running it at 1700 max, leaving it stock for the min. I just wanted to know how much i can safely undervolt 1700 by.
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I undervolted mine by about 100mah. I think I can tone it down by about 25mah more but I'm having a hard time getting it to stabilize.
1350 for my device is completely safe though.
Though, all processors are different. Yours could be better than mine and can withstand more UV-ing.
Goodluck!
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I actually have a question. I undervolted my note with SetCPU and I read that Tegrak Overclock Ultimate should be used as well together with SetCPU.
What does Tegrak Overclock do? GPU settings?
Would like to learn that part if anyone has any info.
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It's basically the same with SetCPU aside from its voltages.
I do not know if it should be used with SetCPU with the note because from what I've researched. It's only a common practice with SGSII.
Tried setting 100 and 200 mhz to 825. Crashed my phone twice in one day using it, gonna revert back to 875
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I undervolted mine by about 100mah. I think I can tone it down by about 25mah more but I'm having a hard time getting it to stabilize.
1350 for my device is completely safe though.
Though, all processors are different. Yours could be better than mine and can withstand more UV-ing.
Goodluck!
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Many thanks!
I will just experiment then, i didnt want to do that and then cause hw damage. I'll let you know how my processor gets on
Hi guys,
can somebody explain, why the charging current is limited to 750mA in the Abysskernel?
Is it possible to adjust the setting to a higher current on a rooted Note?
Haven't found a setting in setcpu or voltage extreme.
When I'm playing games the phone is slowly losing charge due to the less current no matter which charger is use (1A Samsung/1,2A Nokia)?
I use the kernel because there is an 100Hz step in it and BLN.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
I have no knowledge in electricity so i don't know what you're saying, is it that with abyssnote kernel we loose battery (much?) more quickly? Only when there's heavy cpu usage (game) or all the time?
He talks about charging. It seems if the speed of charging the battery is lower then in other Kernels.
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As I've said elsewhere, I would be very surprised if code were controlling the charging levels. I would expect this to be a hardware control.
You can use cpu profile, when charges set at low cpu.
The question remains...
It isn't the low speed, but the fact that it isn't charging/getting enough current to load the battery.
So the battery gets drained even connected to the AC power supply.
Setting a lower cpu speed doesn't really help cos the games begin to stutter.
One even stuttered at full cpu speed.
The fact of the reduced current is even mentioned in the Abyssthread, but not the cause for it.
And I'm not allowed to ask/post in the thread because of the 10-postings-rule.
It's almost similiar to the original car charger not feeding enough current while navigating in the car.
Yes, the kernel decides the maximum charging current. Would be cool if there was a fast charge kernel a it takes forever!
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thor2001 said:
It isn't the low speed, but the fact that it isn't charging/getting enough current to load the battery.
So the battery gets drained even connected to the AC power supply.
Setting a lower cpu speed doesn't really help cos the games begin to stutter.
One even stuttered at full cpu speed.
The fact of the reduced current is even mentioned in the Abyssthread, but not the cause for it.
And I'm not allowed to ask/post in the thread because of the 10-postings-rule.
It's almost similiar to the original car charger not feeding enough current while navigating in the car.
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Than use different kernel ore older abyss. I think they have higher charge voltage.
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And I'm not allowed to ask/post in the thread because of the 10-postings-rule.
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make some more posts here - problem solved.
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Rigby2011 said:
Than use different kernel ore older abyss. I think they have higher charge voltage.
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I still don't think the code (kernel) controls that. If it did, how would it work charging when off, anyway? Logic tells me the physical circuits would do the management, That is normal.
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Zamboney said:
Yes, the kernel decides the maximum charging current.
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Do you have any evidence or citations for this assertion? Also, without wishing to be rude, do you understand the physics involved? The current is a product of the voltage (fixed) and the resistance (a product of hardware).
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I use the kernel because there is an 100Hz step in it and BLN.
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BTW
Apparently on the galaxy note 200 mhz is more energy efficient than 100 mhz even though it is clocked higher.
Tell us why sayinh so
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Q. "I'm going to set scaling min freq as 100 mhz because my kernel supports it. Hope there's nothing wrong in doing that."
A. Wait! You may want to stay away from using 100mhz during screen-off or screen-on states for three reasons 1) It seems 100 mhz uses more power than 200 mhz. According to tests, 100 mhz accounted to 1 W / GHz and 200 mhz to 0.7 W / GHz, when both the cores were online. 2) 200 mhz can finish same task faster compared 100 mhz and thus hit deep idle soon. 3) 200 mhz is the 'sweet spot' of frequency in SGS II. ie, the frequency used in the calculations based on the optimal energy to run (Ex: In Milestone it's 550 MHz). So , 'energetically efficient' frequency for our CPU is 200 mhz.
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From this thread
@dude18
I know this thread, I have read it before. It felt like the Note saved more battery with the 100mHz-step. Maybe the governor had something to do with it.
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Anyway, I've gone back to stock kernel with root (and waiting for the official ICS, May 2012?).
The charging problem is still there, even with shown 1000mA (cf-root) and current widget.
For example, I've just installed "Shark Dash", while my battery was showing 15% and a battery warning.
I plugged the original samsung charger in and started the game. After 2 or 3 round I quited the game.
The battery has gone down to 13% and would have gone deeper, if I continued playing.
If you do that, after some amount of time the battery jumps to 100% while on charger,
but after unplugging it falls back down to 15% or less. This can't be good for the battery!
Same behavior with Jelly Defence, which even frooze my Note for 1 minute.
It doesn't depend on the game, but the fact that the Note sucks to much voltage and cannot charge
the battery while using it.
Regards
Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.
jlmcr87 said:
Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.
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Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
kaywalker23 said:
Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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But benchmarks man....Seriously though the phone is screaming fast so I say let it save some battery by throttling down.
Every phone, including the Iphone throttles. Unless there is evidence that N5 throttles a lot more than other S800 phone in non-benchmark tasks this is nothing to worry about imo.
Established behavior. Other phones detect benchmarking software and go full throttle to look better on paper than they are in use.
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Established behavior. Other phones detect benchmarking software and go full throttle to look better on paper than they are in use.
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Samsung ones especially....
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I don't care what the numbers say... my phone flies through everything in real world use. This, is good news.
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I just had a little go on the wife's galaxy nexus... I thought something was wrong with it with how slow it felt
I have now played many games on my Nexus 5 and I haven't noticed any impact on the performance when playing for long periods of time. Whereas Nexus 4 would slow down dramatically once the throttling comes.
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I don't care what the numbers say... my phone flies through everything in real world use. This, is good news.
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I just had a little go on the wife's galaxy nexus... I thought something was wrong with it with how slow it felt
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Funny, my gnex is just as smooth as the new n5. Gnex is running 4.3.1, but I also loaded a couple kk roms and also just as smooth as the n5. Doesn't take much to run an android os, but other things go a helluva lot faster on the n5 with the 4 cores and faster clock speeds.
kaywalker23 said:
Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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what app are you using?
incredicontrol, kernel tuner and nofrills arent working for me, you can set the max freq but the cpu ignores the limit
Yakandu said:
what app are you using?
incredicontrol, kernel tuner and nofrills arent working for me, you can set the max freq but the cpu ignores the limit
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SetCpu works like a charm.
I've only made 3 conditions for it.
when locked: 300/300
chrome: 300/1200
otherwise: 300/800
What's amazingly surprising is the phone is still very snappy with these frequencies. Sometimes I disable the profiles just to play around but when I'm looking for battery savings I enable them.
With stability test only 30 seconds for the CPU to drop to 1119 Mhz
jlmcr87 said:
Ok bad news, I use system tuner + stability test apps and the cpu slow down to 1119 Mhz. This explains low scores in some benchmarks.
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I only care about throttling if it affects overall performance. So far users report smooth browsing and gaming in the most demanding situations, so it's cool. Nexus devices never fared well at benchmarks anyway.
Another dissapointing... I suppose this is what they were talking about when said "power saving".
PD: Cooltool + setcpu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GRcTxaWd24
check that if you want to see the effect of throttling in gaming
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Why is that bad news? I've set my cpu speed to 1200mhz and have been running chrome without hiccups. I don't think it actually affects performance that much.
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Do you pull half the fuel injector harnesses out in your car to?
The bigger factor is that all games look like they only use 2 cores even at lower speeds they would run much better if properly threaded
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noobdeagle said:
The bigger factor is that all games look like they only use 2 cores even at lower speeds they would run much better if properly threaded
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Yes that's true ,
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That's the problem with having more cores, developers are still making things for older (and more prevalent) hardware. Same thing happened in the early days of multi-core CPUs in computers as well. To begin with you got far worse performance on a dual core 1.5Ghz machine than on a single core with 2Ghz because the OS and applications didn't use the second core. Fortunately phone evolution is way faster and I expect games and apps to take advantage of all the cores much sooner than it happened on PC.
As on the nexus 4, I have no doubt that we will be able to turn off thermal throttling with custom kernels
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Hey there, from what I read there are 3 methods for finding out your CPU binning. I did them and each one gives me different results. Which one is the correct one?
cat /proc/cpu/msm_acpu_pvs - result "8"
/sys/module/clock_krait_8974/parameters table_name - result "qcom,speed2-pvs13-bin-v1"
/sys/module/clock_krait_8974/parameters pvs_config_ver - result "3"
From what I testes -50mV is possible but crashes with battery below 15% and in AnTuTu stability test. -25mV works stable.
Thanks
The top one is your PVS.
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The top one is your PVS.
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Thanks so I am with PVS 8 which is nothing to be sad about I believe.
Too bad that -25mV is all that works
why would you be sad about your phones binning? all it does is tell you which voltage table it yses, absolutely nothing else. mines a bin 5, and im very happy with my device.
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why would you be sad about your phones binning? all it does is tell you which voltage table it yses, absolutely nothing else. mines a bin 5, and im very happy with my device.
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I thought higher binning means more undervolting?
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I thought higher binning means more undervolting?
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its the whole undervolting to save battery? your undervolting doesnt save enough battery for you to see a difference. i dont undervolt at all, and overvolt my top frequency for better performance. and i see 5.5-7 hours sot daily.
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simms22 said:
its the whole undervolting to save battery? your undervolting doesnt save enough battery for you to see a difference. i dont undervolt at all, and overvolt my top frequency for better performance. and i see 5.5-7 hours sot daily.
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generally, the higher pvs your device is, the lower voltage it uses by default. how much each device can undervolt will only be up to your device. each device it will differ, doesnt matter what your binning is.
simms22 said:
its the whole undervolting to save battery? your undervolting doesnt save enough battery for you to see a difference. i dont undervolt at all, and overvolt my top frequency for better performance. and i see 5.5-7 hours sot daily.
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generally, the higher pvs your device is, the lower voltage it uses by default. how much each device can undervolt will only be up to your device. each device it will differ, doesnt matter what your binning is.
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Alright, thanks for that... well I will still go with -25mV as it is stable and might atleast make a littttttle difference.. and since we can, why not do it ?
I dont know what I did but now no matter what kernel i run or kernel manager.. despite the fact that the kernel supports speeds of say 2649... eveyr time i change it to 2649, it changes right back to 2265 or even 1958.
it happens in FKU, Kernel Adiutor, Trickster etc..
i have tried flashing stock back, then reflashing FK, or Hell cores, or Pure Nexus o Despair.. all same thing.. I can not set a max CPU speed beyond 2265 and have it stick.
what am I doing wrong? I have had this before in the past and it just went away on its own.
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I dont know what I did but now no matter what kernel i run or kernel manager.. despite the fact that the kernel supports speeds of say 2649... eveyr time i change it to 2649, it changes right back to 2265 or even 1958.
it happens in FKU, Kernel Adiutor, Trickster etc..
i have tried flashing stock back, then reflashing FK, or Hell cores, or Pure Nexus o Despair.. all same thing.. I can not set a max CPU speed beyond 2265 and have it stick.
what am I doing wrong? I have had this before in the past and it just went away on its own.
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It needs to have over 40% battery to set it to 2649, otherwise it will drop to 2265 below 40% and 1958 below 20%
danarama said:
It needs to have over 40% battery to set it to 2649, otherwise it will drop to 2265 below 40% and 1958 below 20%
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i'm having this issue as well. i'm curious though, what's the cause of this behaviour, and is there anyway to "fix" this? frankly, the phone is slow as hell when it's dropped to 1567, mine most of the time sticks to 1067...
bufosp said:
i'm having this issue as well. i'm curious though, what's the cause of this behaviour, and is there anyway to "fix" this? frankly, the phone is slow as hell when it's dropped to 1567, mine most of the time sticks to 1067...
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issue? then charge your battery. the issue he describes isnt an issue, its how it works. at 40%, it drops, and again at 20%. but it never ever drops to 1067mhz, you are experiencing a completely different issue.
bufosp said:
i'm having this issue as well. i'm curious though, what's the cause of this behaviour, and is there anyway to "fix" this? frankly, the phone is slow as hell when it's dropped to 1567, mine most of the time sticks to 1067...
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This is a different issue. Your values are not the stock battery % throttling values.
For what it is worth though, I have the issue you mention and no one has been able to help me fix it..
It appears to be some kind of thermal throttling that occurs, even though I am below my thermal throttling value.. I have found if it's on charge and it drops, I can't get it back up from 1036 without a reboot. Further, I have to unplug it.. Because u lay games that drain battery and also get hot, I find myself in this situation quite often.. I have even sometimes put my phone in the freezer to reboot it, which helps me a lot BUT THAT IS NOT MY ADVICE TO YOU. DO THAT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
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This is a different issue. Your values are not the stock battery % throttling values.
For what it is worth though, I have the issue you mention and no one has been able to help me fix it..
It appears to be some kind of thermal throttling that occurs, even though I am below my thermal throttling value.. I have found if it's on charge and it drops, I can't get it back up from 1036 without a reboot. Further, I have to unplug it.. Because u lay games that drain battery and also get hot, I find myself in this situation quite often.. I have even sometimes put my phone in the freezer to reboot it, which helps me a lot BUT THAT IS NOT MY ADVICE TO YOU. DO THAT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
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ah so it seems what i'm experiencing is the same with you. i thought what i'm experiencing is the same with TS. but i DO experience the max CPU can't stick to 2.6 Ghz.
Yeah, my phone tend to slow down when charging and produce some heat (warm to the hand at most) and when i check, the kernel controller/monitor (i use FKUpdater) will only shows 1036 for max CPU.
Is this thermal throttling? i had nexus 5 before and i can say the thermal throttling on that device was... barely noticable at most. this device is more severe i'd say...
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ah so it seems what i'm experiencing is the same with you. i thought what i'm experiencing is the same with TS. but i DO experience the max CPU can't stick to 2.6 Ghz.
Yeah, my phone tend to slow down when charging and produce some heat (warm to the hand at most) and when i check, the kernel controller/monitor (i use FKUpdater) will only shows 1036 for max CPU.
Is this thermal throttling? i had nexus 5 before and i can say the thermal throttling on that device was... barely noticable at most. this device is more severe i'd say...
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lmao, thermal throttle on the n5 is extremely noticeable. the n6 its really hard getting it hot enough. n5 goes to the thermal shutdown really quick, the n6 is nearly impossible to make it to thermal shutdown. and your issue mist likely usnt thermal throttle, but mpdecision. mpdecision is what puts the cpu speed wherever it ferls like, no matter where you set it. of course you can always disable mpdecision.
bufosp said:
ah so it seems what i'm experiencing is the same with you. i thought what i'm experiencing is the same with TS. but i DO experience the max CPU can't stick to 2.6 Ghz.
Yeah, my phone tend to slow down when charging and produce some heat (warm to the hand at most) and when i check, the kernel controller/monitor (i use FKUpdater) will only shows 1036 for max CPU.
Is this thermal throttling? i had nexus 5 before and i can say the thermal throttling on that device was... barely noticable at most. this device is more severe i'd say...
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It seems like thermal throttling and cooling my device seems to help, however these values don't seem realistic.
Often even a reboot won't cure it for me. I took a logcat during boot and could see it setting the cpu low and it did look like thermal throttling.
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simms22 said:
lmao, thermal throttle on the n5 is extremely noticeable. the n6 its really hard getting it hot enough. n5 goes to the thermal shutdown really quick, the n6 is nearly impossible to make it to thermal shutdown. and your issue mist likely usnt thermal throttle, but mpdecision. mpdecision is what puts the cpu speed wherever it ferls like, no matter where you set it. of course you can always disable mpdecision.
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Mpdecision sets min cpu, not Max. But it's similar. Just at the other end
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It seems like thermal throttling and cooling my device seems to help, however these values don't seem realistic.
Often even a reboot won't cure it for me. I took a logcat during boot and could see it setting the cpu low and it did look like thermal throttling.
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Mpdecision sets min cpu, not Max. But it's similar. Just at the other end
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min, i dont believe its tied to min only. i believe it changes both min and max. if i leave mpdecision on, my cpu speed will change, max as well. but if i disable mpdecision, nothing changes, unless i go under 40% battery..
simms22 said:
min, i dont believe its tied to min only. i believe it changes both min and max. if i leave mpdecision on, my cpu speed will change, max as well. but if i disable mpdecision, nothing changes, unless i go under 40% battery..
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Well as stated, looks thermal in logcat and mpdecision is off.
danarama said:
Well as stated, looks thermal in logcat and mpdecision is off.
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op provided a logcat? or is the logcat from you?
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btw, to disable thermal throttle(i disable it every single bootup)..
in a terminal emulator app..
su(press enter)
echo N > /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled(press enter)
simms22 said:
op provided a logcat? or is the logcat from you?
---------- Post added at 02:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:56 PM ----------
btw, to disable thermal throttle(i disable it every single bootup)..
in a terminal emulator app..
su(press enter)
echo N > /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled(press enter)
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Me. Not OP. OP has no issue. Just me and that other guy who is not OP.
danarama said:
Me. Not OP. OP has no issue. Just me and that other guy who is not OP.
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well, for you, you pretty much know what the issue is. for the op, it could possibly be one of several iasues, since we dont have a logcat or anything to look at.
simms22 said:
well, for you, you pretty much know what the issue is. for the op, it could possibly be one of several iasues, since we dont have a logcat or anything to look at.
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The OP doesn't have an issue. He has normal battery % throttle.
danarama said:
The OP doesn't have an issue. He has normal battery % throttle.
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ok