Hey there, from what I read there are 3 methods for finding out your CPU binning. I did them and each one gives me different results. Which one is the correct one?
cat /proc/cpu/msm_acpu_pvs - result "8"
/sys/module/clock_krait_8974/parameters table_name - result "qcom,speed2-pvs13-bin-v1"
/sys/module/clock_krait_8974/parameters pvs_config_ver - result "3"
From what I testes -50mV is possible but crashes with battery below 15% and in AnTuTu stability test. -25mV works stable.
Thanks
The top one is your PVS.
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The top one is your PVS.
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Thanks so I am with PVS 8 which is nothing to be sad about I believe.
Too bad that -25mV is all that works
why would you be sad about your phones binning? all it does is tell you which voltage table it yses, absolutely nothing else. mines a bin 5, and im very happy with my device.
simms22 said:
why would you be sad about your phones binning? all it does is tell you which voltage table it yses, absolutely nothing else. mines a bin 5, and im very happy with my device.
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I thought higher binning means more undervolting?
zakazak said:
I thought higher binning means more undervolting?
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its the whole undervolting to save battery? your undervolting doesnt save enough battery for you to see a difference. i dont undervolt at all, and overvolt my top frequency for better performance. and i see 5.5-7 hours sot daily.
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simms22 said:
its the whole undervolting to save battery? your undervolting doesnt save enough battery for you to see a difference. i dont undervolt at all, and overvolt my top frequency for better performance. and i see 5.5-7 hours sot daily.
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generally, the higher pvs your device is, the lower voltage it uses by default. how much each device can undervolt will only be up to your device. each device it will differ, doesnt matter what your binning is.
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its the whole undervolting to save battery? your undervolting doesnt save enough battery for you to see a difference. i dont undervolt at all, and overvolt my top frequency for better performance. and i see 5.5-7 hours sot daily.
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generally, the higher pvs your device is, the lower voltage it uses by default. how much each device can undervolt will only be up to your device. each device it will differ, doesnt matter what your binning is.
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Alright, thanks for that... well I will still go with -25mV as it is stable and might atleast make a littttttle difference.. and since we can, why not do it ?
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I'm curious about the percentage of people overclocking or underclocking their Nexus 7.
34% / 18%. there.
I underclocked mine down to 1.1Ghz, see no lag or performance hit but the back of the tablet feel much cooler during use and noticed a longer battery life. I don't play 3D game nor do I care about benchmarking so running 4 cores at 1.1Ghz is plenty powerful.
Installed a 1.6ghz kernel, I didn't see too much improvement in text render times when zooming on Chrome, so I reverted to stock as that's the only thing I was hoping for a boost in.
I overclocked to 1.6ghz with GPU at 484mhz. It's underclocked when the screen is off though, to save battery in standby.
Jdbye said:
I overclocked to 1.6ghz with GPU at 484mhz. It's underclocked when the screen is off though, to save battery in standby.
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When your screen is off your cores should actually be I'm deep sleep.
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Jdbye said:
I overclocked to 1.6ghz with GPU at 484mhz. It's underclocked when the screen is off though, to save battery in standby.
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When your screen is off your cores should actually be I'm deep sleep.
sometimes i overclock to 2ghz, sometimes i underclock to 1.1ghz. it depends on the situatuon, there isnt a black or white answer, its all shades of gray. you probably wont be using one cpu speed either(unless youre unrooted). use the cpu speed that best fits the situation. if you need the device to last a long day on a single charge, then underclock. if battery juice isnt an issue, and you want the most from your device to play with, then overclock. with as easy as it is to change your cpu speed on the fly, there shouldnt only be one answer to the question.
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Jdbye said:
I overclocked to 1.6ghz with GPU at 484mhz. It's underclocked when the screen is off though, to save battery in standby.
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When your screen is off your cores should actually be I'm deep sleep.
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no matter how underclocked your device is, if its doesnt deep sleep with the screen off then youre losing battery. if it doesnt deep sleep then your device has issues. oh, and you cant underclock deep sleep.
simms22 said:
no matter how underclocked your device is, if its doesnt deep sleep with the screen off then youre losing battery. if it doesnt deep sleep then your device has issues. oh, and you cant underclock deep sleep.
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If you have music playing with screen off it won't deep sleep underclocking then with screen off would help.
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Yes I have overclocked, but I don't keep it at 1.7 ghz for the sake of my battery. I spend 6 hours in classes sometimes and I need to make sure it lasts.
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If you have music playing with screen off it won't deep sleep underclocking then with screen off would help.
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truth.
but he said to save battery in standby.
Hey guys,
Quick question for you all. I was thinking this morning about overclocking and its advantages/disadvantages
and one question in particular erked me.
Say for instance there are two Moto G 2014s. A and B.
Moto A:
@1200mhz
@1200mv
and Moto B:
@1400mhz
@1200mv
Will the battery life be the same as they are at the same MV or will the clock speed effect battery life anyway?
Thanks in advance,
Chris.
good question....
Not know... in theory no, but will be more hot, that hot may cause more energy consumption.
And probable lag making the cpu throttle down to stay under CPU max temp threshold, under heavy use.
Running games with the CPU @1,2 already make it be very hot @1,4 will be even hotter.
If you test let us know... will try to learn about it, if i find something let you know. :good:
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look like yes see here
In my opinion even with the same voltage level, the energy consumption will increase a bit. Higher power means more hot => more energy consumption.
baybutcher27 said:
good question....
Not know... in theory no, but will be more hot, that hot may cause more energy consumption.
And probable lag making the cpu throttle down to stay under CPU max temp threshold, under heavy use.
Running games with the CPU @1,2 already make it be very hot @1,4 will be even hotter.
If you test let us know... will try to learn about it, if i find something let you know. :good:
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look like yes see here
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Thanks for your reply. I do not have a moto g 2nd gen yet but I am getting one on friday. I will be sure to do some testing indeed.
it seems you might be right though. Increasing the clockspeed will increase heat therfore decreasing battery.
I dont know what I did but now no matter what kernel i run or kernel manager.. despite the fact that the kernel supports speeds of say 2649... eveyr time i change it to 2649, it changes right back to 2265 or even 1958.
it happens in FKU, Kernel Adiutor, Trickster etc..
i have tried flashing stock back, then reflashing FK, or Hell cores, or Pure Nexus o Despair.. all same thing.. I can not set a max CPU speed beyond 2265 and have it stick.
what am I doing wrong? I have had this before in the past and it just went away on its own.
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I dont know what I did but now no matter what kernel i run or kernel manager.. despite the fact that the kernel supports speeds of say 2649... eveyr time i change it to 2649, it changes right back to 2265 or even 1958.
it happens in FKU, Kernel Adiutor, Trickster etc..
i have tried flashing stock back, then reflashing FK, or Hell cores, or Pure Nexus o Despair.. all same thing.. I can not set a max CPU speed beyond 2265 and have it stick.
what am I doing wrong? I have had this before in the past and it just went away on its own.
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It needs to have over 40% battery to set it to 2649, otherwise it will drop to 2265 below 40% and 1958 below 20%
danarama said:
It needs to have over 40% battery to set it to 2649, otherwise it will drop to 2265 below 40% and 1958 below 20%
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i'm having this issue as well. i'm curious though, what's the cause of this behaviour, and is there anyway to "fix" this? frankly, the phone is slow as hell when it's dropped to 1567, mine most of the time sticks to 1067...
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i'm having this issue as well. i'm curious though, what's the cause of this behaviour, and is there anyway to "fix" this? frankly, the phone is slow as hell when it's dropped to 1567, mine most of the time sticks to 1067...
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issue? then charge your battery. the issue he describes isnt an issue, its how it works. at 40%, it drops, and again at 20%. but it never ever drops to 1067mhz, you are experiencing a completely different issue.
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i'm having this issue as well. i'm curious though, what's the cause of this behaviour, and is there anyway to "fix" this? frankly, the phone is slow as hell when it's dropped to 1567, mine most of the time sticks to 1067...
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This is a different issue. Your values are not the stock battery % throttling values.
For what it is worth though, I have the issue you mention and no one has been able to help me fix it..
It appears to be some kind of thermal throttling that occurs, even though I am below my thermal throttling value.. I have found if it's on charge and it drops, I can't get it back up from 1036 without a reboot. Further, I have to unplug it.. Because u lay games that drain battery and also get hot, I find myself in this situation quite often.. I have even sometimes put my phone in the freezer to reboot it, which helps me a lot BUT THAT IS NOT MY ADVICE TO YOU. DO THAT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
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This is a different issue. Your values are not the stock battery % throttling values.
For what it is worth though, I have the issue you mention and no one has been able to help me fix it..
It appears to be some kind of thermal throttling that occurs, even though I am below my thermal throttling value.. I have found if it's on charge and it drops, I can't get it back up from 1036 without a reboot. Further, I have to unplug it.. Because u lay games that drain battery and also get hot, I find myself in this situation quite often.. I have even sometimes put my phone in the freezer to reboot it, which helps me a lot BUT THAT IS NOT MY ADVICE TO YOU. DO THAT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
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ah so it seems what i'm experiencing is the same with you. i thought what i'm experiencing is the same with TS. but i DO experience the max CPU can't stick to 2.6 Ghz.
Yeah, my phone tend to slow down when charging and produce some heat (warm to the hand at most) and when i check, the kernel controller/monitor (i use FKUpdater) will only shows 1036 for max CPU.
Is this thermal throttling? i had nexus 5 before and i can say the thermal throttling on that device was... barely noticable at most. this device is more severe i'd say...
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ah so it seems what i'm experiencing is the same with you. i thought what i'm experiencing is the same with TS. but i DO experience the max CPU can't stick to 2.6 Ghz.
Yeah, my phone tend to slow down when charging and produce some heat (warm to the hand at most) and when i check, the kernel controller/monitor (i use FKUpdater) will only shows 1036 for max CPU.
Is this thermal throttling? i had nexus 5 before and i can say the thermal throttling on that device was... barely noticable at most. this device is more severe i'd say...
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lmao, thermal throttle on the n5 is extremely noticeable. the n6 its really hard getting it hot enough. n5 goes to the thermal shutdown really quick, the n6 is nearly impossible to make it to thermal shutdown. and your issue mist likely usnt thermal throttle, but mpdecision. mpdecision is what puts the cpu speed wherever it ferls like, no matter where you set it. of course you can always disable mpdecision.
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ah so it seems what i'm experiencing is the same with you. i thought what i'm experiencing is the same with TS. but i DO experience the max CPU can't stick to 2.6 Ghz.
Yeah, my phone tend to slow down when charging and produce some heat (warm to the hand at most) and when i check, the kernel controller/monitor (i use FKUpdater) will only shows 1036 for max CPU.
Is this thermal throttling? i had nexus 5 before and i can say the thermal throttling on that device was... barely noticable at most. this device is more severe i'd say...
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It seems like thermal throttling and cooling my device seems to help, however these values don't seem realistic.
Often even a reboot won't cure it for me. I took a logcat during boot and could see it setting the cpu low and it did look like thermal throttling.
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lmao, thermal throttle on the n5 is extremely noticeable. the n6 its really hard getting it hot enough. n5 goes to the thermal shutdown really quick, the n6 is nearly impossible to make it to thermal shutdown. and your issue mist likely usnt thermal throttle, but mpdecision. mpdecision is what puts the cpu speed wherever it ferls like, no matter where you set it. of course you can always disable mpdecision.
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Mpdecision sets min cpu, not Max. But it's similar. Just at the other end
danarama said:
It seems like thermal throttling and cooling my device seems to help, however these values don't seem realistic.
Often even a reboot won't cure it for me. I took a logcat during boot and could see it setting the cpu low and it did look like thermal throttling.
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Mpdecision sets min cpu, not Max. But it's similar. Just at the other end
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min, i dont believe its tied to min only. i believe it changes both min and max. if i leave mpdecision on, my cpu speed will change, max as well. but if i disable mpdecision, nothing changes, unless i go under 40% battery..
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min, i dont believe its tied to min only. i believe it changes both min and max. if i leave mpdecision on, my cpu speed will change, max as well. but if i disable mpdecision, nothing changes, unless i go under 40% battery..
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Well as stated, looks thermal in logcat and mpdecision is off.
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Well as stated, looks thermal in logcat and mpdecision is off.
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op provided a logcat? or is the logcat from you?
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btw, to disable thermal throttle(i disable it every single bootup)..
in a terminal emulator app..
su(press enter)
echo N > /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled(press enter)
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op provided a logcat? or is the logcat from you?
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btw, to disable thermal throttle(i disable it every single bootup)..
in a terminal emulator app..
su(press enter)
echo N > /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled(press enter)
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Me. Not OP. OP has no issue. Just me and that other guy who is not OP.
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Me. Not OP. OP has no issue. Just me and that other guy who is not OP.
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well, for you, you pretty much know what the issue is. for the op, it could possibly be one of several iasues, since we dont have a logcat or anything to look at.
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well, for you, you pretty much know what the issue is. for the op, it could possibly be one of several iasues, since we dont have a logcat or anything to look at.
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The OP doesn't have an issue. He has normal battery % throttle.
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The OP doesn't have an issue. He has normal battery % throttle.
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ok
Hi. I have a question. Can you overclock the cpu in this device?
Or change the scalling governor forever?
Oh, and the GPU, can you overclock it too or change its governor?
hi6120sft ale-l21 said:
Hi. I have a question. Can you overclock the cpu in this device?
Or change the scalling governor forever?
Oh, and the GPU, can you overclock it too or change its governor?
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I think no one has done any overclocking yet.
This thing says it increases gpu clock speed limit a little http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=1242642
keikari said:
I think no one has done any overclocking yet.
This thing says it increases gpu clock speed limit a little http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=1242642
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Can you translate that? I don't understand anything..
You can't overclock the CPU, you can only change the governor to Performance for forever...
D1stRU3T0R said:
Can you translate that? I don't understand anything..
You can't overclock the CPU, you can only change the governor to Performance for forever...
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And how you do that?
D1stRU3T0R said:
Can you translate that? I don't understand anything..
You can't overclock the CPU, you can only change the governor to Performance for forever...
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If u use chrome top left corner is translate else/if it'isnt there use google translate or something similiar.
But it kind of says taht huawei has limited gpu max speed to 400mhz which is lower than normal. That thing should make it able to reach 500mhz.
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And how you do that?
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With rooted device download kernel adiutor or similiar app and change CPU governor to performance, though if you want some battery saving optdemand or ondemand works equaly good with basic gaming/usage.
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If u use chrome top left corner is translate else/if it'isnt there use google translate or something similiar.
But it kind of says taht huawei has limited gpu max speed to 400mhz which is lower than normal. That thing should make it able to reach 500mhz.
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With rooted device download kernel adiutor or similiar app and change CPU governor to performance, though if you want some battery saving optdemand or ondemand works equaly good with basic gaming/usage.
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I did that but it is not permanent, I though that a kernel patch or something exists
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I did that but it is not permanent, I though that a kernel patch or something exists
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That's weird it has been permament for me, is your "set on boot" working or maybe you should try other app. Or esal kernel.
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That's weird it has been permament for me, is your "set on boot" working or maybe you should try other app. Or esal kernel.
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Well, if it's not working I can live without it, and about Esal kernel I don't know how to get emui 4.1 so I can't install it.
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Well, if it's not working I can live without it, and about Esal kernel I don't know how to get emui 4.1 so I can't install it.
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For Emui 4.0 you should be able to use esal v.2.1. But it has small stuttering or something like that, even though it increases benchmark score. Also with cpu hotplugs increases batterylife, but for me intel plug doesn't seem to work. Don't know how others got it working or maybe they are expecting different thing from it or I have miss understood why it is created.
Can somebody test if it's working?
http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=1242642
That extra 100mhz can be soo good for me, I really need it I'm only afraid to don't brick my phone
D1stRU3T0R said:
Can somebody test if it's working?
http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=1242642
That extra 100mhz can be soo good for me, I really need it I'm only afraid to don't brick my phone
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Yes me too, but this is my only phone what it is working right now, I have a Xiaomi and a Lenovo but they're hard bricked so I don't want to destroy and this one
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I think no one has done any overclocking yet.
This thing says it increases gpu clock speed limit a little http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=1242642
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Hi!
I check the files and P8 Lite already came with that definitions, that is to unlock Honor ...
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greetings beloved people of XDA comunity
as title saying , im interested in testing a boot.img kernel with 770 max oc on GPU,
i've tested a kernel with 850 gpu oc , it wasnt stable at that high clock, so im looking to
test a little lower (should be stable at 770 since i've tested it on another devices with snapdragon 855 on it)
thanks
And why exactly do you need to OC the GPU? Especially the flagship GPU?
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And why exactly do you need to OC the GPU? Especially the flagship GPU?
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why not overclocking when its possible?!
its the whole purpose of xda to make things possible and to give the community the choice to modify their own devices to the max.
i've overclocked gpu to 725, which was super smooth and stable, gave me ~20% GPU boost, for free
so thats why i'd like to test a gpu oc to 770
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why not overclocking when its possible?!
its the whole purpose of xda to make things possible and to give the community the choice to modify their own devices to the max.
i've overclocked gpu to 725, which was super smooth and stable, gave me ~20% GPU boost, for free
so thats why i'd like to test a gpu oc to 770
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how you did it?
can you tell the procedure and will it run on eu or stock rom or its only for custom rom ?
sar78mad said:
why not overclocking when its possible?!
its the whole purpose of xda to make things possible and to give the community the choice to modify their own devices to the max.
i've overclocked gpu to 725, which was super smooth and stable, gave me ~20% GPU boost, for free
so thats why i'd like to test a gpu oc to 770
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Exactly!!! Keep the good work. Also, please share your mod or tweaks with us
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Please, share how we can overclock our device. And keep the good work going ???
sar78mad said:
why not overclocking when its possible?!
its the whole purpose of xda to make things possible and to give the community the choice to modify their own devices to the max.
i've overclocked gpu to 725, which was super smooth and stable, gave me ~20% GPU boost, for free
so thats why i'd like to test a gpu oc to 770
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And where exactly did you use that extra 20% GPU power?
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And where exactly did you use that extra 20% GPU power?
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On graphics intensive games LOL
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sar78mad said:
greetings beloved people of XDA comunity
as title saying , im interested in testing a boot.img kernel with 770 max oc on GPU,
i've tested a kernel with 850 gpu oc , it wasnt stable at that high clock, so im looking to
test a little lower (should be stable at 770 since i've tested it on another devices with snapdragon 855 on it)
thanks
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Please share your tweak with us bro. Want to unleash 855 full potential
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On graphics intensive games LOL
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Please share your tweak with us bro. Want to unleash 855 full potential
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Graphic intensive games that don't go over 30/60fps? No use of it as most of the game run 30 or 60fps on SD 855 anyways.
Link please