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just wondering if an unlocked Raider from Bell canada would work on MetroPcs at all? how about on the metropcs 4gLTE?
I thought metropcs was CDMA?
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Pirateghost said:
I thought metropcs was CDMA?
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even their LTE?
what carriers are the Raider able to run on in the USA? only At&t?
You can probably run it on Tmobile but you wouldn't get 3G or 4G or LTE. In other news there are claims about Tmobile customers getting 4G on the Iphone.
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You can probably run it on Tmobile but you wouldn't get 3G or 4G or LTE. In other news there are claims about Tmobile customers getting 4G on the Iphone.
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unless they are talking about the 4S, and it has support for 1700/2100 bandwidth...not possible....the 3G and the 3GS never worked on 3G (4G is on the same frequencies, its not a different technology )
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unless they are talking about the 4S, and it has support for 1700/2100 bandwidth...not possible....the 3G and the 3GS never worked on 3G (4G is on the same frequencies, its not a different technology )
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Actually, t-mobile has began to utilize some 1900mhz spectrum for its HSPA+ network in a lot of areas. It's very hit and miss though. Of my 3 friends that use t-Mobile on their iPhones, only one has seen the 3G indicator on their phone.
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broseph23 said:
Actually, t-mobile has began to utilize some 1900mhz spectrum for its HSPA+ network in a lot of areas. It's very hit and miss though. Of my 3 friends that use t-Mobile on their iPhones, only one has seen the 3G indicator on their phone.
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since when did TMobile buy 1900mhz spectrum?
they own AWS, and nothing else at this time
Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!
.ili.music.ili. said:
Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!
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International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.
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International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.
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I don't want LTE. I want T-Mobile HSPA+. Will it work by putting a sim card in it?
then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already
But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?
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But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?
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If you're lucky enough to be in the right area, yes
Well it's just to make phone calls. It's okay if I don't have internet connectivity everywhere. I am going to be buying it off a guy on craigslist in a place where I normally get service... he's selling it to me for only $450. Kind of nervous that it's a fake/scam.
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then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already
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Any idea what areas? Mine arrives tomorrow, live in PHX.
Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.
gedster314 said:
Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.
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This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
guitarplayerone said:
This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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So there's no such hack for the international note? I don't understand how an internationally unlocked phone doesn't support USA GSM highspeed. My T-Mobile G1 supports HSPA+.
Does AT&T 4G work with the international Note? I have it now and I'm only getting 2G. It's god awfully slow.
If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
No 4G
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If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
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On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?
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Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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I'm on the Left Coast, maybe should l see if 1900Mhz is in my area.
To be honest, I'm actually happy with me my broadband sim on AT&T. I just had the LTE code added to my account and I got a little boost in speed on HSPA+. I'm seeing 8Mbps down and the speed seems more stable then before. It does seem to be ramping up to max speed a little slower and I have a firm upload cap at about 1Mbps, before I occasionally would hit 1.5 Mbps. HSPA+ does seem to do Skype and Google Voice pretty well, I've been managing to use a a data sim as a phone quite successfully.
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On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?
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The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.
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The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.
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Wrong. The International Note has a pentaband radio. It's the same modem as the Galaxy Nexus GSM.
It just so happens that the AT&T Note shares the almost the same hardware with the T-Mobile S2 which makes it easier in terms of getting the modem from the T-Mobile S2 to work on the AT&T Note. This is why how they got the hack working on the AT&T Note.
This DOES NOT WORK on the Int Galaxy Note as we are running an Exynos/Infineon chip/baseband.
Okay. Instead of arguing with each other about who can spout-off the N7000's and i717's specs most accurately, why don't we just give the OP a simple, comprehensive answer?
Okay. To answer your question, the N7000 (International Note) will work perfectly fine on T-Mobile US. Phone calls, SMS messages, and data will all work perfectly. The issue, however, is not with the services you can get, but the quality of the services you can get. Even though the N7000 is an "international" GSM device, T-Mobile uses irregular frequencies for it's HSPA+ network. Specifically, instead of supporting HSPA+ on a single frequency, T-Mobile's HSPA+ service is divided between 1700MHz and 2100MHz in what is referred to as 1700/2100 AWS (Advanced Wireless Spectrum). Because AWS is a rare and unusual implementation of HSPA+, almost no "international" phone models support it. In most cases, only phones meant specifically for North America support it. What this means, simply, is that the N7000 will never be capable of using T-Mobile's HSPA+ network (unless you have the rare privelege of being in a 1900MHz HSPA+ area).
Now, just because the N7000 won't let you use T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+, it doesn't mean you can't have your cake and eat it too. Granted, it is a small concession, but the i717 is a "more than adequate" smartphone and will (with some minor modification) make neat work of connecting to T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+ network. Preliminary speed tests even suggest that the i717 is faster on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network than the N7000 is on AT&T's HSPA+ network. So, if you're willing to sacrifice the added speed and power the Exynos SoC offers, you could gain T-Mobile 3G compatibility and NFC to boot just by opting for the i717; which, I might add, is only $649.99 off-contract at AT&T.
If I can help clarify any confusion or answer any questions, please feel free to ask. I know there are a lot of people out there who feel very strongly about which version of the Note is superior. However, it's my opinion that when you come across someone who's undecided, you should simply give them the facts and allow them to make their own decision. Passionately mixing facts with opinion only serves to further confuse things.
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That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650
.ili.music.ili. said:
That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650
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You're right. Sorry. I fat-fingered it. It's corrected now.
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i live in boston and decided to call tmobile about the 3/4g coverage. supposedly the 1900 band is now in use for tmobile 3g. so i cant get 4g but i could get 3g...now i have to hunt down a non att branded note. the map the lady referred to was dated june 6th 2012 so im hoping her stuff is right.
hate to buy a not and still be stuck on edge.
I am considering getting a note. I know all the pros and cons of the att and international versions. My question was for those who have the unlocked att version, how good is the 4g speed on T-Mobile? I am ditching big red, and will be going with simple mobile which is of course T-Mobile. Just wondering, tia. :thumbup:
What do you think you are doing Dave?
Spectredroid said:
I am considering getting a note. I know all the pros and cons of the att and international versions. My question was for those who have the unlocked att version, how good is the 4g speed on T-Mobile? I am ditching big red, and will be going with simple mobile which is of course T-Mobile. Just wondering, tia. :thumbup:
What do you think you are doing Dave?
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AT&T uses LTE, considered the real 4G.
T-Mobile uses HSPA+, some consider it 3.5g since a backbone upgrade isnt exactly deserving of another generation leap. This technology uses their '3g' frequencies.
Since AT&T & T-Mobile 3G frequencies arent compatible with each other and T-Mobile lacks in the LTE department.. the conclusion is:
You'll catch 2g on T-Mobile
I was on T-mobile in Orlando, FL with my Galaxy S, which got decent 3G speeds. When I got my unlocked international Note in November, I put my T-mo SIM into it. It only got 2G speeds, since the int'l Note doesn't have the 1700 band that runs T-mobile's 4G.
But there is hope. Rumor has it that T-mobile will release its own version of the Note on July 11. That's just around the corner.
Their 4G is only a rebranded 3G network that's been slightly overhauled. Max Mbps is 27. Regular 3G is 7.2
LTE is 100
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Their 4G is only a rebranded 3G network that's been slightly overhauled. Max Mbps is 27. Regular 3G is 7.2
LTE is 100
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Tmo's HSPA+ network has max speeds of 42mbps with real world d/l speeds of 10-25 mbps with good signal. Not as good as the 30-50 mbps LTE tests I've seen from ATT though
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My question was for those who have the unlocked att version, how good is the 4g speed on T-Mobile?
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In that case, you should have asked the question in the I717 forum! ;-)
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Dave
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Title says it all, is it possible now that we have S-off?
I'm not sure what difference there is except for cid
I personally think it would be better to make it into an international version for timely updates.... I've been wanting to do this as well...
a box of kittens said:
I'm not sure what difference there is except for cid
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I don't live in the refarmed area so I only get edge, I can travel a mile and get HSPA+ though but I want something that is consistent. Not just random 4G in one corner of my house and Edge everywhere else
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I don't live in the refarmed area so I only get edge, I can travel a mile and get HSPA+ though but I want something that is consistent. Not just random 4G in one corner of my house and Edge everywhere else
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I do believe Att version is the same as international as far as radio goes. I think tmo radio is only capable of picking up all the tmo 4g.... Does your area have lte?
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I do believe Att version is the same as international as far as radio goes. I think tmo radio is only capable of picking up all the tmo 4g.... Does your area have lte?
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Nope, when T-Mobile rolled it out they skipped Jacksonville Florida
All one versions have the same hadware! It's just a matter of enabling/disabling a certain radio in the device
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AT&T version does not support 3G AWS network which TMO does. LTE support is identical.
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AT&T version does not support 3G AWS network which TMO does. LTE support is identical.
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That's what I thought I read elsewhere
what he said above. TMO versions can pick up 3G AWS since most of their network is on that band. ATT doesnt use that band only 1900 for 3G, but since TMO has only started refarming old 2G 1900mhz signal to 3G signal only certain places will recieve 3G signal for TMO on the ATT HTC one.
So far i havent heard of anyone breaking into the radio portions and adjusting the bands. i think people are still a bit sketchy on whether that will work or not. its a pretty big gamble.
your best option is maybe find someone who has the TMO version and wants an international version. and trade?
I have the AT&T One. T-Mobile was sold out and I wanted it the day it was released so I just bought the AT&T One at Best Buy. I have AT&T LTE but I was wanting to use T-Mobile because I have unlimited on that line. I never get 3G though, only HSPA which is weird, or maybe not idk
Hi,
I don't want to make the same mistake twice! I bought a Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-L09) and low and behold it does not work with Cricket (my carrier) which runs off of AT&T towers. I tried to make it work with the whole HSPA+ thing but it's really slow, cutting in and out, service bouncing around, problems with the play store, etc.
So if I can find a phone I like that is large and gets 4G LTE - I want to switch. Hence my question about the Nexus 6 . I see that Verizon sells it so I assumed it was a 4G LTE phone but I see a lot of talk on here about HSPA and LTE being "released" for this phone so I don't want to to get one if it's not something that's going to get lte.
Anyone know about the 4G situation with AT&T (NOT TMOBILE - no TMobile access in my area!)?
Thanks in advance! (And sorry I'm spamming this board so much lately with my phone stupidity).
The Nexus 6 XT-1103 is sold by AT&T in the US and works with all AT&T LTE frequency bands. The Nexus 6 XT-1100 (International version) works with some, but maybe not all, AT&T LTE bands.
Adam80 said:
The Nexus 6 XT-1103 is sold by AT&T in the US and works with all AT&T LTE frequency bands. The Nexus 6 XT-1100 (International version) works with some, but maybe not all, AT&T LTE bands.
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Perfect thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know
I used cricket before I jumped to fi and I got LTE
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I'm on Cricket. Lte works great.
chapelfreak said:
I used cricket before I jumped to fi and I got LTE
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Sweet! Just out of curiosity - what's fi?
mojo6911 said:
I'm on Cricket. Lte works great.
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Perfect thanks!
Sunshine32 said:
Sweet! Just out of curiosity - what's fi?
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Project fi by google