I am considering getting a note. I know all the pros and cons of the att and international versions. My question was for those who have the unlocked att version, how good is the 4g speed on T-Mobile? I am ditching big red, and will be going with simple mobile which is of course T-Mobile. Just wondering, tia. :thumbup:
What do you think you are doing Dave?
Spectredroid said:
I am considering getting a note. I know all the pros and cons of the att and international versions. My question was for those who have the unlocked att version, how good is the 4g speed on T-Mobile? I am ditching big red, and will be going with simple mobile which is of course T-Mobile. Just wondering, tia. :thumbup:
What do you think you are doing Dave?
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AT&T uses LTE, considered the real 4G.
T-Mobile uses HSPA+, some consider it 3.5g since a backbone upgrade isnt exactly deserving of another generation leap. This technology uses their '3g' frequencies.
Since AT&T & T-Mobile 3G frequencies arent compatible with each other and T-Mobile lacks in the LTE department.. the conclusion is:
You'll catch 2g on T-Mobile
I was on T-mobile in Orlando, FL with my Galaxy S, which got decent 3G speeds. When I got my unlocked international Note in November, I put my T-mo SIM into it. It only got 2G speeds, since the int'l Note doesn't have the 1700 band that runs T-mobile's 4G.
But there is hope. Rumor has it that T-mobile will release its own version of the Note on July 11. That's just around the corner.
Their 4G is only a rebranded 3G network that's been slightly overhauled. Max Mbps is 27. Regular 3G is 7.2
LTE is 100
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ngocdao said:
Their 4G is only a rebranded 3G network that's been slightly overhauled. Max Mbps is 27. Regular 3G is 7.2
LTE is 100
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Tmo's HSPA+ network has max speeds of 42mbps with real world d/l speeds of 10-25 mbps with good signal. Not as good as the 30-50 mbps LTE tests I've seen from ATT though
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My question was for those who have the unlocked att version, how good is the 4g speed on T-Mobile?
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In that case, you should have asked the question in the I717 forum! ;-)
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Dave
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just wondering if an unlocked Raider from Bell canada would work on MetroPcs at all? how about on the metropcs 4gLTE?
I thought metropcs was CDMA?
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I thought metropcs was CDMA?
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even their LTE?
what carriers are the Raider able to run on in the USA? only At&t?
You can probably run it on Tmobile but you wouldn't get 3G or 4G or LTE. In other news there are claims about Tmobile customers getting 4G on the Iphone.
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You can probably run it on Tmobile but you wouldn't get 3G or 4G or LTE. In other news there are claims about Tmobile customers getting 4G on the Iphone.
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unless they are talking about the 4S, and it has support for 1700/2100 bandwidth...not possible....the 3G and the 3GS never worked on 3G (4G is on the same frequencies, its not a different technology )
Pirateghost said:
unless they are talking about the 4S, and it has support for 1700/2100 bandwidth...not possible....the 3G and the 3GS never worked on 3G (4G is on the same frequencies, its not a different technology )
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Actually, t-mobile has began to utilize some 1900mhz spectrum for its HSPA+ network in a lot of areas. It's very hit and miss though. Of my 3 friends that use t-Mobile on their iPhones, only one has seen the 3G indicator on their phone.
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broseph23 said:
Actually, t-mobile has began to utilize some 1900mhz spectrum for its HSPA+ network in a lot of areas. It's very hit and miss though. Of my 3 friends that use t-Mobile on their iPhones, only one has seen the 3G indicator on their phone.
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since when did TMobile buy 1900mhz spectrum?
they own AWS, and nothing else at this time
Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!
.ili.music.ili. said:
Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!
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International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.
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International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.
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I don't want LTE. I want T-Mobile HSPA+. Will it work by putting a sim card in it?
then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already
But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?
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But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?
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If you're lucky enough to be in the right area, yes
Well it's just to make phone calls. It's okay if I don't have internet connectivity everywhere. I am going to be buying it off a guy on craigslist in a place where I normally get service... he's selling it to me for only $450. Kind of nervous that it's a fake/scam.
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then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already
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Any idea what areas? Mine arrives tomorrow, live in PHX.
Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.
gedster314 said:
Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.
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This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
guitarplayerone said:
This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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So there's no such hack for the international note? I don't understand how an internationally unlocked phone doesn't support USA GSM highspeed. My T-Mobile G1 supports HSPA+.
Does AT&T 4G work with the international Note? I have it now and I'm only getting 2G. It's god awfully slow.
If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
No 4G
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If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
No 4G
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On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?
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Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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I'm on the Left Coast, maybe should l see if 1900Mhz is in my area.
To be honest, I'm actually happy with me my broadband sim on AT&T. I just had the LTE code added to my account and I got a little boost in speed on HSPA+. I'm seeing 8Mbps down and the speed seems more stable then before. It does seem to be ramping up to max speed a little slower and I have a firm upload cap at about 1Mbps, before I occasionally would hit 1.5 Mbps. HSPA+ does seem to do Skype and Google Voice pretty well, I've been managing to use a a data sim as a phone quite successfully.
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On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?
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The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.
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The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.
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Wrong. The International Note has a pentaband radio. It's the same modem as the Galaxy Nexus GSM.
It just so happens that the AT&T Note shares the almost the same hardware with the T-Mobile S2 which makes it easier in terms of getting the modem from the T-Mobile S2 to work on the AT&T Note. This is why how they got the hack working on the AT&T Note.
This DOES NOT WORK on the Int Galaxy Note as we are running an Exynos/Infineon chip/baseband.
Okay. Instead of arguing with each other about who can spout-off the N7000's and i717's specs most accurately, why don't we just give the OP a simple, comprehensive answer?
Okay. To answer your question, the N7000 (International Note) will work perfectly fine on T-Mobile US. Phone calls, SMS messages, and data will all work perfectly. The issue, however, is not with the services you can get, but the quality of the services you can get. Even though the N7000 is an "international" GSM device, T-Mobile uses irregular frequencies for it's HSPA+ network. Specifically, instead of supporting HSPA+ on a single frequency, T-Mobile's HSPA+ service is divided between 1700MHz and 2100MHz in what is referred to as 1700/2100 AWS (Advanced Wireless Spectrum). Because AWS is a rare and unusual implementation of HSPA+, almost no "international" phone models support it. In most cases, only phones meant specifically for North America support it. What this means, simply, is that the N7000 will never be capable of using T-Mobile's HSPA+ network (unless you have the rare privelege of being in a 1900MHz HSPA+ area).
Now, just because the N7000 won't let you use T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+, it doesn't mean you can't have your cake and eat it too. Granted, it is a small concession, but the i717 is a "more than adequate" smartphone and will (with some minor modification) make neat work of connecting to T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+ network. Preliminary speed tests even suggest that the i717 is faster on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network than the N7000 is on AT&T's HSPA+ network. So, if you're willing to sacrifice the added speed and power the Exynos SoC offers, you could gain T-Mobile 3G compatibility and NFC to boot just by opting for the i717; which, I might add, is only $649.99 off-contract at AT&T.
If I can help clarify any confusion or answer any questions, please feel free to ask. I know there are a lot of people out there who feel very strongly about which version of the Note is superior. However, it's my opinion that when you come across someone who's undecided, you should simply give them the facts and allow them to make their own decision. Passionately mixing facts with opinion only serves to further confuse things.
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That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650
.ili.music.ili. said:
That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650
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You're right. Sorry. I fat-fingered it. It's corrected now.
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i live in boston and decided to call tmobile about the 3/4g coverage. supposedly the 1900 band is now in use for tmobile 3g. so i cant get 4g but i could get 3g...now i have to hunt down a non att branded note. the map the lady referred to was dated june 6th 2012 so im hoping her stuff is right.
hate to buy a not and still be stuck on edge.
Im new to the gt-n7000 galaxy note and im just curious if theres any hack to get hspa+ 4g tmobile conecction.
I know the at&t version has a hack to get it but does the international one has one as well?
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Im new to the gt-n7000 galaxy note and im just curious if theres any hack to get hspa+ 4g tmobile conecction.
I know the at&t version has a hack to get it but does the international one has one as well?
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No it doesn't.
in boston some where you can get 3g/4g/h/h+
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in boston some where you can get 3g/4g/h/h+
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I'm in Gaithersburg MD and I generally get edge. There are some places around here that I've gotten H+ but it is very spotty. From what I hear, with the release of the GN2, T-mobile is going to ramp up 1900Mhz band to have more areas with HSPA + in the coming months. Keeping my fingers crossed!
EDIT: Check this link for Tmobile coverage
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/32918
Hello all,
Like most of you I was excited to hear of this smaller version of the galaxy s3. I've enjoyed my note 2 for a little over 2 months now and I can't get enough of its beautiful screen. Now with this said, I find myself wanting a smaller phone that I could take in a pinch instead of the huge note 2. I find this small form factor of a phone to be the perfect size. So, when is this phone coming to America? Specifically to Verizon? Anyone have any insight?
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I havn't seen any date for US launch and I'm not even sure it will be available for US at all..
Didn't Samsung make Galaxy Axiom for US market instead?
Anyway.. I think you can get a simfree one online, but it probably will be shipped with a EU standard charger.
Thanks to Apple, it will NOT be sold in the US.
www.androidauthority.com/apple-drops-galaxy-s3-mini-patent-lawsuit-143283/
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It is available on amazon.com $319
ppero196 said:
Thanks to Apple, it will NOT be sold in the US.
www.androidauthority.com/apple-drops-galaxy-s3-mini-patent-lawsuit-143283/
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Says in the article that Apple dropped the s3 Mini from the lawsuit. Lol and yes amazon is selling it, just not on the correct baseband that I need for Verizon. It would work on other carriers however.
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Says in the article that Apple dropped the s3 Minnie from the lawsuit. Lol and yes amazon is selling it, just not on the correct baseband that I need for Verizon. It would work on a game carrier however.
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Dropped it because Samsung told them that it won't sell it in the US.
And Apple started the lawsuit in the first place
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Will the S3 Mini available on Amazon work with AT&T or T-Mobile in the US?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A29WCA0/ref=gno_cart_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ALO2UB4UFFZ2D
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Will the S3 Mini available on Amazon work with AT&T or T-Mobile in the US?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A29WCA0/ref=gno_cart_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ALO2UB4UFFZ2D
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"Network Frequencies and Band: 2G Network - GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and then 3G Network - HSDPA 900/1900/2100.
This will work with T-Mobile. T-Mobile requires 1700/2100 for their 4G and 3G BUT their 1900 network is their new network they are reframing and that gets you HSDPA speeds which is faster than 3G. So yes you can get 3G/HSDPA with this phone from T-Mobile still if you are in the covered area.
This phone will also work with AT&T, once again because their 1900 is their main 3G network. Yes it also runs on 850, but anywhere it runs on 850, it is also covered by 1900, which is what this phone supports..so all you need is the 1900 network support which this phone has.
And i'll repeat is just one more time because some people still ask...This phone will work with AT&T and T-Mobile because it has the 1900 network! Which is all you need to get 3G for both companies. The 850 for AT&T doesn't matter, and the 1700/2100 for T-Mobile doesn't matter (make sure you are in a reframed area). Hope this cleared things up "
this is from a review from amazon...this guy(the 1st reviewer) explains alot for the device,u can check yourself too...http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Unloc...ng+i8190+galaxy+s+iii+mini+android+smartphone
Has anyone tried using the galaxy axiom from us cellular on Verizon yet? From everything I've looked at on the specs of it, it does indeed have the same cell frequencies. Anyone with any info please let me know.
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Can a us cellular Samsung axiom use gsm sim if flashed the right way
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Will the S3 Mini available on Amazon work with AT&T or T-Mobile in the US?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A29WCA0/ref=gno_cart_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ALO2UB4UFFZ2D
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I'm on T-Mobile.
I bought one for my wife recently because she needed a new phone and the full size S3 is just too big. She gets pretty good coverage here in the San Fernando Valley just north of LA. She gets some 4G signal a lot of the time, occasionally 3G, and some EDGE. The T-Mobile network is not yet that built out, even here in SoCal.
The big lack is that the device has no LTE modem, although that also may make for better battery.
I'm thinking of getting a moto x for my wife. She is currently on straight talk (ATT version), and I'm trying to move us to T-Mobile or one of it's MVNOs. Either way, I will be buying a contract-free device.
Now the million dollar question is, will the color-friendly ATT version work well on T-Mobile's frequencies? And will the non-colored Tmobile one work with ATT frequencies?
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I have the AT&T variant working on T-Mobile fine. Edge, 4G, 4G LTE. I don't see 3G in my area at all even on my GS4.
the AT&T version XT1058 , doesnt have support for AWS bands on HSPA + . So no 1700/2100 HSPA+ 4G or 3G.
a lot of areas have 1900 mhz HSPA+ t-mobile now, so you'd still be able to get on that, or T-Mobile LTE. the only moto-x that supports the AWS HSPA+ t-mobile bands, is the xt1053 one
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the AT&T version XT1058 , doesnt have support for AWS bands on HSPA + . So no 1700/2100 HSPA+ 4G or 3G.
a lot of areas have 1900 mhz HSPA+ t-mobile now, so you'd still be able to get on that, or T-Mobile LTE. the only moto-x that supports the AWS HSPA+ t-mobile bands, is the xt1053 one
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Thanks sleepy guy, I needed some model numbers to use as a reference. we live in a refarmed area (DC). I seem to have had much better luck, at getting reception with my 1700 friendly nexus4, than my wife does with her international s3.
That is why I ask. So Is it safe to assume, that the xt1053 should be able to get pepper reception on both att and tmobile frequencies?
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Thanks sleepy guy, I needed some model numbers to use as a reference. we live in a refarmed area (DC). I seem to have had much better luck, at getting reception with my 1700 friendly nexus4, than my wife does with her international s3.
That is why I ask. So Is it safe to assume, that the xt1053 should be able to get pepper reception on both att and tmobile frequencies?
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yes the xt1053 should be able to get basically any band at&t OR t-mobile use in the US.
i think the 32GB GSM dev edition is also an XT1053.
So the AT&T Moto X supports band 4 LTE? I'm in Chicago which is pretty well covered in LTE I might just buy the AT&T version for T-Mobile use if that's the case.
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So the AT&T Moto X supports band 4 LTE? I'm in Chicago which is pretty well covered in LTE I might just buy the AT&T version for T-Mobile use if that's the case.
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yes it supports band 4.
i actually returned my XT1053 t-mobile edition. i noticed it had some cosmetic defects like a scrape on the bottom from someone having dropped it, and a few imperfections in the plastic.
$660 (with tax) for american crappy manufacturing. went on ebay and bought an XT1058 for puerto rico (claro wireless) and they range in price from $500 to 550 ish (white ones seem to be cheaper).
anyway, i guess the XT1058 from canada / puerto rico are unlockable bootloaders. the puerto rico ones i know have no carrier branding or apps, and are made in china and i've heard they have better quality control. even the one ifixit took apart , which was an american one had a defect on it.
As long as you live in a refarmed area, you should be fine. I'm in an area that isn't refarmed yet, so all I get is edge on my AT&T variant X.
My understanding in talking with both T-Mobile and Moto is that both the T-Mobile variant and the GSM Dev Edition should book work in unfarmed areas as well.