Hi guys, the Devil Kernel has a governor called Powersave does that really help extend battery life?
xxxmike86xxx said:
Hi guys, the Devil Kernel has a governor called Powersave does that really help extend battery life?
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Yea, it will, but it may be laggy and slow from time to time.
Check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
BlueFlame4 said:
Yea, it will, but it may be laggy and slow from time to time.
Check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
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This explains why my SGS is slow as hell on Powersave...which governor would you recommend?
thanks for the help!:victory:
xxxmike86xxx said:
This explains why my SGS is slow as hell on Powersave...which governor would you recommend?
thanks for the help!:victory:
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OnDemand, Conservative or SmartassV2 are a good compromise regarding speed and battery. Your battery will discharge a bit faster ofc but your phone will be smoother as well. Use CoolTool for live statistics of the CPU frequency.
Just play around a bit with the settings and use the link I posted above for help. If you want to know anything, feel free to ask me
There are several other settings on kernel side which affect speed and battery life.
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BlueFlame4 said:
OnDemand, Conservative or SmartassV2 are a good compromise regarding speed and battery. Your battery will discharge a bit faster ofc but your phone will be smoother as well. Use CoolTool for live statistics of the CPU frequency.
Just play around a bit with the settings and use the link I posted above for help. If you want to know anything, feel free to ask me
There are several other settings on kernel side which affect speed and battery life.
Sent from my Gameboy Color
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Thank you so much!!! I'm gonna be honest and say I am a n00b and I won't really understand the statistics...or change the frequency manually...
Can I run SetCPU with all the kernels or just use the Kernel's governors (like Devil's let you choose a governor).
P.S - Tried the SmartassV2 looks okay to me a bit laggy though...
xxxmike86xxx said:
Thank you so much!!! I'm gonna be honest and say I am a n00b and I won't really understand the statistics...or change the frequency manually...
Can I run SetCPU with all the kernels or just use the Kernel's governors (like Devil's let you choose a governor).
P.S - Tried the SmartassV2 looks okay to me a bit laggy though...
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Yeah, SetCPU can be run with any kernel. You can download the devil kernel app on Google Play to set everything, so SetCPU is redundant.
Statistics are quite obvious - the phone should hit min. frequency as soon as possible on the one hand and it shouldn't lagg on the other hand Lazy governor is good as well.
Btw: You are here to learn something so it's absolutely okay if you ask questions. That "noob-excuse" is kinda lame cuz you read and study the stuff by asking others /reading topics Everyone has to learn to succeed.
Anyways, ask me if you got questions
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It slows down a bit your phone but battery does improve.
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Hi
I've being using Boype's ROM for a few days and I saw the governors options.
What are the diferences between them? Wich is the best to use?
Thanks
rop12770 said:
Hi
I've being using Boype's ROM for a few days and I saw the governors options.
What are the diferences between them? Wich is the best to use?
Thanks
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That depends what you want. In use interactivex from Huexxx's kernel. Just Google governors and you will find the differences
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Just easily search xda, its great forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663809
And in some words, as far as im concerned:
InteractiveX - battery friendly, not so aggressive like smartassv2, with low freq available (like 100mhz) you can experience sods or wakelocks.
Smartassv2 - good with performance, good with battery
OndemandX - just switch to highest freq and then wait for your activity (to lower freq or not). I think its most stable, second is Smartass, and third Interactive.
Im using InteractiveX, because without using, screen off, battery is just draining perfectly, like 1% per 2-4 hours. (boype's cm7)
Gonna test InteractiveX.
Thanks
rop12770 said:
Gonna test InteractiveX.
Thanks
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Check here.
Excelent Dcop.
Obrigado.
rop12770 said:
Excelent Dcop.
Obrigado.
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Glad I can help!
You're Welcome (de nada )
Mine is LG Optimus Black, Zeus ROM 6.39 version
On full charging with plugged in, it is showing 100% battery stat and message showing battery charged full
But on removing charging plug, it is showing 98% only...
What to do, any problem ?
Why don't Huexx include full Battery and low battery alert and Touchpal keyboard and other swype option keyboards?
Please suggest him to include like these better features, because he listens the words of Senior Members like you...
Firstly, android is such an open system just to let ppl install what they want, so pre-installing any keyboards is against that... everyone has own favourite keyboard/launcher/etc.
About this battery: it is probably caused by too high charger voltage. Battery has its own specification and as far as im concerned, our chargers arent best ;p try to pull battery, wait some minutes, then put it back and see how many % you have and then charge it to the end... idk if it helps, but i tried to do such things and i had 100% charged battery...
With the InteractiveX governor, I have my system up for almost 2 days and still 40% battery. Excelent. That's exactly what I want.
What is the best governer for multitasking?
perfommence
Messi10 said:
perfommence
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thanks dude.what about less battery usage when browsing? sorry if i'm asking too much questions
ayadgalaxymini said:
thanks dude.what about less battery usage when browsing? sorry if i'm asking too much questions
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Use SMARTASSV2 it saves battery when you're not using phone and gives you maximum performance when needed
smartass v2 or ondemand, both are similar
Unless you have lagfree that's seems to do well with battery and multitasking
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thanks all for answeing.you're the best
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What kind of success/failure are people having with overclocking and undervolting?
I'm doing this through ROM Toolbox Pro. Is there a better way? I'm a n00b with some of this stuff.
I have the phone overclocked to 1200mhz and all cpu levels are undervolted by 100mV.
Im doing so to get more performance, and better battery life. Just wondering what settings everyone else is using.
Also I'm using CM 10.1, with the BlueMint Theme.
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DR650SE said:
Just wondering what settings everyone else is using.
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Every phone has different limits. It's just like PC overclocking, no two CPU/MB/RAM combos are exactly the same. In general most of Captivates will handle 1200 step OC with default voltages. Not too many will handle 120% live OC though. It doesn't matter what tool you use to OC. All tools try to play with the same kernel settings. In my experience UV saves very little battery but increases significantly the chances to get stability issues. This is why I never play with UV. My particular phone can do 1400 step OC or 1200 live OC with 1350mV. I run it on 1200 step OC @ default. Also, keep in mind that different ROMs/kernels give different OC results.
RE: undervolt
I agree with Val D that undervolting will not show any significant benefits. Overvolting has helped me with stability while overclocking. I use the free Voltage Control app for voltages, or the free NStools app. Rom Toolbox is a great app too- I use it for many other things- stick with what works for you. Currently I am running at 1200Mhz step, at 120% Live OverClock to get CPU up to 1440Mhz, and ARM voltage of 1350mV at that 1200Mhz step. Rock solid. Battery life suffers a bit, but I run this way for gaming. Day-to-day regular usage I just set to 1400Mhz step and no Live OC, default voltages. I have run fine in the past at 1500Mhz, no Live OC. Overclocking the CPU tends to make my phone a bit snappier and more responsive. A big battery drain that affects my phone is an app such as Gmail running in the background, or leaving wifi enabled when not in use. Setting the phone to Airplane mode has been a big battery helper too (I do not make any voice calls on this phone anymore). Governor and scheduler setting can also have a big effect on battery life. I searched for this post I made a while back that linked to two great articles on studies of battery life and voltages, and ended up reading through them again:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28141250&postcount=1194
Great information. Edit: just figured out how to link articles in my signature.
Thanks guys. I know each one over clocks differently. Just looking for some rough outlines. Thanks for the links. I'll be reading up on those. I have extensive computer over clocking experience, but on e phone its a whole new ball game. Basically trying to make this phone last longer.
I'll have to learn what live OCing is vs step OCing.
Thanks again!
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I just do 1200mhz OC using CyanogenMod 10.1 - the option is in the performance menu. So far no problems.
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I just do 1200mhz OC using CyanogenMod 10.1 - the option is in the performance menu. So far no problems.
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Awesome. Didn't even realize that as there. I've been using ROM Toolbox to OC to 1200MHz.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate/JB CM 10.1 via Tapatalk.
overclocking to 1200 mhz will made any difference ?
Klitoni said:
overclocking to 1200 mhz will made any difference ?
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I really didn't notice much of a difference in speed or responsiveness using CM 10.1.
Hey guys wondering if anyone has their htc one m7 undervolted at the moment and what voltage they are running at. Also what does everyone here recommend for governors and schedules for similar to stock performance with best possible battery life. Thanks!
95thfallout said:
Hey guys wondering if anyone has their htc one m7 undervolted at the moment and what voltage they are running at. Also what does everyone here recommend for governors and schedules for similar to stock performance with best possible battery life. Thanks!
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look in the kernel threads for this information
Thank you, I already went through a couple forums for kernels compatible to aosp lollipop but as the forums were newer I could not find much in terms of settings. Are their any forums you particularly recommend?
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Hey guys wondering if anyone has their htc one m7 undervolted at the moment and what voltage they are running at.
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Its not because someone is having good results at X volts that you will have the same. Every chip is slightly different and you should try yourself by reducing in small increments untils the phone is not stable. Then you know the minimum voltage your chip can deal with. Add a safety margin to that and you're pretty much done.
Also what does everyone here recommend for governors and schedules for similar to stock performance with best possible battery life.
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If you want it similar to stock then Id suggest to use the interactive gov.
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Its not because someone is having good results at X volts that you will have the same. Every chip is slightly different and you should try yourself by reducing in small increments untils the phone is not stable. Then you know the minimum voltage your chip can deal with. Add a safety margin to that and you're pretty much done.
If you want it similar to stock then Id suggest to use the interactive gov.
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Alright thanks for the info. I have been undervolting cpu chips since intel released sandy bridge so Im well aware of the silicone lottery and how to adjust voltages, however im just looking for a relative range of what to expect. Also how do you go about stress testing on a phone Ive downloaded a couple apps but Im questioning their reliability. In regards to the interactive gov, for some reason whenever I select this gov my phone freezes and reboots. It may be an issue with the kernel but no other people have reported it, all other governors seem to work fine, so therefore for the time being I cant use them governor. I have been using the "badass" governor for a couple days but found it a little laggy so im trying "smartassv2" atm.
I don't know if it works on OOS versions but it does, on the OB12. You need to be rooted to be doing this.
Lower the input boost to 1036 on the big and 556 on the small first. Now, change the governor of the big cluster to conservative and the small to ondemand or conservative , benefit!
To see the improvement in FPS, you need to go to developer options and switch on profile GPU rendering. For those who didn't understand this: lower the graph is, higher the fps. Hit thanks if helped
Where to change these settings?
Any kernel manager would do. I'd recommend kernel aduitor
chinmai560621 said:
Any kernel manager would do. I'd recommend kernel aduitor
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Just change the option of GPU GOVERNER to simple_on demand one from the above mentioned app. It will work smooth.. works for me..:good:?
ashokspidy said:
Just change the option of GPU GOVERNER to simple_on demand one from the above mentioned app. It will work smooth.. works for me..:good:?
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I'd recommend to leave it on msm-adreno.
What if I'm on RR 5.8.2 and ElementalX? I have ondemand governor option for little but don't have conservative for big cluster.
karliyo said:
What if I'm on RR 5.8.2 and ElementalX? I have ondemand governor option for little but don't have conservative for big cluster.
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This is exclusive for OOS. In fact, the interactive is supposed to be better than the rest but it's not the case on OOS which is why I made this thread.
chinmai560621 said:
This is exclusive for OOS. In fact, the interactive is supposed to be better than the rest but it's not the case on OOS which is why I made this thread.
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Oh alright. Little governor ondemand seems quite fine right now.
By the way, are both governors interactive by default?
karliyo said:
Oh alright. Little governor ondemand seems quite fine right now.
By the way, are both governors interactive by default?
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Has to be. Unless you use blu_spark kernel. It uses blu_activ.
How do these changes affect the battery life?
chinmai560621 said:
Has to be. Unless you use blu_spark kernel. It uses blu_activ.
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You mean interactive and not blu_active?
I do recommend you guys taking a look at AKT.. There are alot of peformance oriented and balanced profiles that are already better with smoothness then stock.. Also Franco has some magic with stock settings!
chinmai560621 said:
I don't know if it works on OOS versions but it does, on the OB12. You need to be rooted to be doing this.
Lower the input boost to 1036 on the big and 556 on the small first. Now, change the governor of the big cluster to conservative and the small to ondemand or conservative , benefit!
To see the improvement in FPS, you need to go to developer options and switch on profile GPU rendering. For those who didn't understand this: lower the graph is, higher the fps. Hit thanks if helped
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Hi friend, shall I change both values of big and small? I mean maximum and minimum?
Same, cant find where to change the input values for those two.
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Same, cant find where to change the input values for those two.
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You'll see input boost in the bottom section of CPU in kernel adiutor. Core 1- 1036, core 3 -556 is what you've to do. It'll be 1324 default on both. I'm suggesting that for slightly better battery life
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How do these changes affect the battery life?
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Lower SOTs are obvious, but to what degree is what matters. As far as I see, it's not that much.
GUYS, I recommend not to use this anymore. Oneplus has a reason to not release the kernel with conservative on . This is because conservative is not optimized for battery while interactive is. If interactive weren't optimized for battery, it'd be better than conservative for sure. I get only 4 hr sot on conservative but 5.5 on interactive. Though this is not placebo, it has a negative impact on SOT .
When I change big cluster to conservative, those cores will always stay above 2 GHz, as shown in Kernel Adiutor.
chinmai560621 said:
GUYS, I recommend not to use this anymore. Oneplus has a reason to not release the kernel with conservative on . This is because conservative is not optimized for battery while interactive is. If interactive weren't optimized for battery, it'd be better than conservative for sure. I get only 4 hr sot on conservative but 5.5 on interactive. Though this is not placebo, it has a negative impact on SOT .
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The thread is about more performance and you're discussing battery life....of course it will have a lower battery life, the question is are you happy when your quad-core phone stutters....
chinmai560621 said:
You'll see input boost in the bottom section of CPU in kernel adiutor. Core 1- 1036, core 3 -556 is what you've to do. It'll be 1324 default on both. I'm suggesting that for slightly better battery life
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Got it, thank you. I did notice a slightly battery improvement after two cycles.
Little investigation..
chinmai560621 said:
GUYS, I recommend not to use this anymore. Oneplus has a reason to not release the kernel with conservative on . This is because conservative is not optimized for battery while interactive is. If interactive weren't optimized for battery, it'd be better than conservative for sure. I get only 4 hr sot on conservative but 5.5 on interactive. Though this is not placebo, it has a negative impact on SOT .
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Good you realised that.. I did a little investigation on your tweak.. Apparently setting governor to conservative locks the frequency of big cluster to max possible, usually above 2 ghz and it will step down slowly ( by slow I mean really slow like 1-2 seconds). Thus causes you to have very less render times on gpu profile as shown in the xda portal post.. I opened up ex kernel manager and observed same freq in higher range.
After some time I just changed governor to interactive and changed minimum freq of big cluster to 2 ghz.. I observed the same render times as situation as time when conservative was set as governor...
So this tweak is nothing but type of placebo since ramping up freq can lead to faster processing
Edit.: Couple of people on xda portal have said the same.. I didn't check it..