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Overclock or not?

A few weeks ago when I still had my HTC Hero it was overclocked to 672Mhz (standard = 528Mhz). It gave me a little boost in performance on Froyo, also the batterylife wasn't decreased too much.
But with our N1 running on 1Ghz, will it give much difference when clocked to 1113/1152Mhz? And what about batterylife?
If SetCPU is used what are your settings then? Mine is currently running on stock speed, no SetCPU.

ZeppeMan said:
A few weeks ago when I still had my HTC Hero it was overclocked to 672Mhz (standard = 528Mhz). It gave me a little boost in performance on Froyo, also the batterylife wasn't decreased too much.
But with our N1 running on 1Ghz, will it give much difference when clocked to 1113/1152Mhz? And what about batterylife?
If SetCPU is used what are your settings then? Mine is currently running on stock speed, no SetCPU.
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I have my nexus one rooted and flashed to MIUI Rom and clock @ 690mhz I get way better battery power. Before I would only get 6hr to 8hr if lucky now I get from 9hr to 13hr depending how much I use it.

set to 1.13 ghz
then screen off to minimum 245mhz

josemedina1983 said:
I have my nexus one rooted and flashed to MIUI Rom and clock @ 690mhz I get way better battery power. Before I would only get 6hr to 8hr if lucky now I get from 9hr to 13hr depending how much I use it.
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So you underclocked it, what about the speed? It's not to laggy?

Nexus one can run reasonably smooth @ 600mhz and above. It might not open applications as fast as it will be @ 1GHz though.

i think 1Ghz is enough for n1
why do u want an overclock?
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shreyas1122 said:
i think 1Ghz is enough for n1
why do u want an overclock?
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I didn't said I want an overclock. It's allready very fast on 1Ghz (compared to my old Hero ), just wanted to know your thoughts about overclocking the N1.

im overclocked at 1152 mhz and profiles set for 245 max with screen off. Overclocking is nice because i like the snappiness but most people cant tell the difference between 998 mhz and 1152. its not needed to overclock but i think profiles help alot. just my two cents

Ok thx, I will try 1150Mhz and see (if it's stable and) what batterylife does. I'm also going to try underclocking.
I have my N1 only for a couple of weeks now and I must say, this phone is awesome. It's VERY fast compared to my old Hero. I remember when I was installing apps on my Hero it became very slow and couldn't do anything untill installing was finished. With the N1 you still can do things while installing apps without lag. The responsiveness and smoothness is also a lot faster. I loved my Hero Because it never let me down, ok it was all a bit slower, but it was getting there. Now with the release of Gingerbread (custom ROM) it became to slow for me and that's why I sold my Hero and bought the N1. It was very difficult to find one, because of the EOL (end of life). But eventually I found one and i'm very happy with it. The N1 is allready more 1 year old, but it still competes with the best phones out there.

I generally run overclocked at 1075MHz, which gives a good balance between battery power usage and processor power. My understanding is that a different voltage scaling method is generally used above 1075MHz, so power consumption will increase above that point.

Didn't knew the voltage would increase above 1075Mhz, will keep that in mind

ZeppeMan said:
Didn't knew the voltage would increase above 1075Mhz, will keep that in mind
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This is, of course, dependent upon how the kernel is constructed, but this is what I have generally found to be true.

Give us some feedback

I overclocked it too 1075Mhz when screen is on (screen off 245Mhz). Will give my thoughts in a day or 2.

Just report that my battery drain is almost the same as on stock settings. I think it drains a tiny bit faster on 1075Mhz, but nothing major. On the other hand, I don't feel it's faster on 1075Mhz then on stock speed. Only benchmarks give me performance increase.
I'm now on CM6.1.1 with stock kernel (cyanogen), I tried other kernels like Wilmonks kernel,.. Although it was more responsive, battery was going down even faster. I get best battery results with stock kernel.
Hard to choose
more speed = more battery drain
less speed = longer battery
I think I stay with the last option (less speed = longer battery), because Wildmonks kernel doesn't give me enough performance increase over the stock kernel on stock speed.

I have mine at 998mhz, but overclocked 1152 while plugged into power.
Either way, its so easy to play with the clock settings, i'd just have a play with a bunch of different settings if i were you.

liam.lah said:
I have mine at 998mhz, but overclocked 1152 while plugged into power.
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I'd love a how-to fire that..
mind sharing the app?
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ZeppeMan said:
wanted to know your thoughts about overclocking the N1.
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well my thoughts: underclock!
so you can watch movies on it all night!
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shreyas1122 said:
I'd love a how-to fire that..
mind sharing the app?
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You can use SetCPU to create profiles based on different circumstances.
Me, I have mine clocked to a max of 1075 and min of 245 with the screen on, 576 max / 128 min screen off, 998/128 charging (to reduce heat - overclocking while power is applied can make it silly hot), and a failsafe to clock down to 576/128 if the temperature gets over 50*C.
Fabulous app.

Correct me if I am wrong. When you use setcpu to "ondemand", the CPU speed can ramp up to max whenever necessary, otherwise the speed will tune down to min especially in standby mode. In that way, you can enjoy the advantages of overclocking and underclocking the CPU speed i.e. increasing performance when needed and saving power when not in use, right? When I loaded Rod's MIUI and Wildmonk's kernel, I can underclock down to 128Mhz and overclock up to 1.152Ghz. At the end of the day, I still have over 60% of power left after not so heavily use (some web browsing, checking email and listen some music). Overall, setcpu is a great app for me.

[Q] Benefits of OC/UV

What are the benefits of OC/UV (particularly for CM7)?
I know of improved performance due to OC, but what does UV do in regards to performance. Also, how does an OC/UV kernel compare to one without the option?

your processor doesn't need as much voltage as the stock settings--undervolting lets you save battery
personally i want to know.. do you have to UV to OC?

xredjokerx said:
your processor doesn't need as much voltage as the stock settings--undervolting lets you save battery
personally i want to know.. do you have to UV to OC?
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You can do either or both but don't have to do both. At some point UVing will cause a crash. Right before that point it can cause performance issues. See the link below for instructions on how to find an optimal UV level to maximize battery savings and performance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10936691&postcount=1102
OCing improves speed but can also cause stability issues. For a captivate this usually isn't a problem until you get past 1.2 ghz. After that, it depends on the kernel but I have yet to find a kernel that is completely stable past 1.2 ghz under stressful conditions. Samsung designed the processor to handle 1.2 ghz and in theory it can go up to at least 1.6.

Like everyone before me has said, OC will make your processor work more (which will eat up more battery, and send the temps a bit higher).
UV is a way to "fix" that problem by controlling the voltage used by each Mhz/Ghz range. The mini guide that QuarkGluonSoup posted is a great way to start off.
Most Captivates start have random errors past 1.2Ghz, but the highest I've seen (stable) are 1.4Ghz.

venomio said:
Like everyone before me has said, OC will make your processor work more (which will eat up more battery, and send the temps a bit higher).
UV is a way to "fix" that problem by controlling the voltage used by each Mhz/Ghz range. The mini guide that QuarkGluonSoup posted is a great way to start off.
Most Captivates start have random errors past 1.2Ghz, but the highest I've seen (stable) are 1.4Ghz.
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Odd as it sounds, my battery life on CM7 is close to 50% better when it is OC'ed to 1.2 ghz and UV'ed than it was on the froyo ROMs under the same conditions.

That really is odd :S I think I'll try it myself.

[Q] Overclocking ?

I have a question: why I can't overclock my SGS past 1.2 ghz. When I try to set for example 1.3 or 1.4 it freezes and I take out the battery in order to make it work again. Is there something I do wrong, is it a general problem with more SGSs? If somebody can , I really appreciate. Thanks

it is a kernel thing.
the kernel has to support those frequencies.
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I tried with tegrak overclocking with voodoo kernel (the application itself doesn't need a kernal that supports those frequencies) and with Supe Optimized Kernel (1.4 ghz) and voltage control and setcpu and is the same result:freezing.

Not every cpu is capable of stable overclocking past a certain threshold. You have probably hit the max speed your cpu can maintain.

I agree with you but then why there are other people with the same phone as me that can overclock them at 1.4 ghz?

With CM7 or miui and either bilboa or zacharius kernel you can overclock to 1300 but I haven't found a kernel that allows 1400 either, I think those that are doing it are hacking the CPU settings themselves.
My phone gets really hot at 1300 running apps like dungeon defender so 1400 might just be a bit too much
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I am using Darky's 9.3 ROM but my problem is that i can't even touch 1300 mhz because my phone freezes.

Maybe a dumb question, but, do you overvolt as well as overclock? Maybe the cpu isnt getting enough juice?
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Mirasdad said:
Maybe a dumb question, but, do you overvolt as well as overclock? Maybe the cpu isnt getting enough juice?
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+1... not sure if there is much benefit at all to undervolting.. it just seems to make it immediately less stable...
can someone shed some light?
I've seen someone test this on another forum somewhere, and the difference the undervolting makes to the battery length is negligible..

kickassdave said:
+1... not sure if there is much benefit at all to undervolting.. it just seems to make it immediately less stable...
can someone shed some light?
I've seen someone test this on another forum somewhere, and the difference the undervolting makes to the battery length is negligible..
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The principles of ovetclocking a PC also aplly to phones. Undervolting reduces the power available to the CPU. Undervolt a little and you'll save a little power. Undervolt.too much and the CPU won't get enough power to do basic functions hence freezing.
Every CPU has a limit to which you can over clock. You can overvolt to a point but then then the CPU reaches its limit.
From what I understand (read in another post) the hummingbird processors are not suited to overclocking. Where the arm such as that in the Motorola milestone clock really well. (You can oc a 600mhz milestone to 1ghz before you start seeing instability)
Hope this helped.
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I understand the intention of undervolting as i am pretty good with PCs. Got my good old i7 overclocked constantly. But undervolting on the SGS has yet to show me any definitive advantages.
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[Q] clocking cpu

i am fairly new to rooting phones. i just installed cyanogen 7 on my htc hero. works much faster than the stock. had heard that you can overclock the cpu. i downloaded CPUmaster free and lets me clock cpu to 768MHz. have been doing some research on this and have come across a few things. so really just one question; 1) what is the fastest you can clock the cpu with it still being stable?
help with this would be very much appreciated!

Depends on a variety of factors and every Hero is different. Depends on the ROM your running, kernel, etc. You can play around with capped and uncapped kernels but no one can really give you an exact # but you..u'll just have to try tinkering with the settings. If your wise you will just select one of the governors located in Cyanogenmod Settings. I prefer SmartassV2,min. 362 max 691 its efficient and takes care of everything while prolonging the life of your battery. Also remember that overclocking for an extended period of time will overheat your phone and could cause damage, so keep an eye on the core temp while playing with ur cpu settings.

1big_bear said:
i am fairly new to rooting phones. i just installed cyanogen 7 on my htc hero. works much faster than the stock. had heard that you can overclock the cpu. i downloaded CPUmaster free and lets me clock cpu to 768MHz. have been doing some research on this and have come across a few things. so really just one question; 1) what is the fastest you can clock the cpu with it still being stable?
help with this would be very much appreciated!
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Some phones can't take more than 691, some can handle 768. I have found, for my phone, that 245/710 works great for me. I can see a marked improvement in snappiness at 710 over 691, but not really much at higher frequencies.
I used to use OnDemand as my scheduler, but with the newer .35 kernel I have liked the SmartassV2; I don't have any issues with music cutting out like i would with smartass or interactive. CM7, or most any of the roms built off of that, have the option in CM Settings to adjust both the frequency and governor so you don't need to install a 3rd party app to do so (it's under the "performance" heading). I also like to go into the spare parts app and set my animations to fast; that's just me though. I think the new CM7 builds have Jaybob's .35 kernel now instead of the .29. I have not seen an uncapped kernel that goes beyond 768 in a long time. There was one that jasonmaloney compiled that did 806 (I think) but that was pulled by him as it isn't good for the phone. just test it out and see what you like with what you have installed on your phone. Every phone is different even though they are the same.

[Q] Nook color overclock.

Hello
I recently acquired a nook color and i am going to install cynogen mod 7.1 and google apps from clock work recovery method, but i want to overclcok to 1.2 or 1.3 ghz, i understand that cynogen mod has an overclock facility built in, the part i am not sure about is to reach 1.2 ghz or 1.3 ghz do i have to use dalingrin overclock kernel to achieve these speeds, or is it possible in cynogen mod 7.1 without the kernel.
Any info would be appreciated.
Regards
Mark

Dal's kernel has been included in there for a while now. If you use 7.1 stable to later nighlies you are definitely safe.

ok, thats great, thanks for the reply, appreciated.
Regards
Mark

It appears the GPU may run best at 1200, even thou the CPU can do up to 1300.

It certainly seems to be true that going past 1200 can slow down graphic intensive operations. I am guessing that's probably because the graphics processor has to run at a ratio of the CPU and going past 1200 ends up with a lower graphics frequency.
But depending on the type of applications used there can be benefit in going higher and most Nooks seem to be capable of 1350. This can be seen in two different benchmarks. Quadrant gives significantly higher scores at 1350 than 1200 whilst the graphically more intensive Nenamark is slower at 1350 then 1200.
I ended up using 1200 anyway as it feels fast and probably also helps with battery life.
Check the voltage settings as well as these can normally be lowered a bit to help again with battery life. I use the one's originally quoted by Dal and don't have any stability issues. ( 09.25 / 1.05 / 1.2 / 1.275 / 1.325)

I did a comparison of 1200 and 1350 MHz with the Sunspider JavaScript bench. 1350 is faster but frankly I have a hard time telling the difference between even stock clock and 1350 in actual practical usage.
The most obvious speed boost I've found is running 16bit color. Big difference in browser scrolling performance.

Is overclocking it fully safe?

GuTsaV said:
Is overclocking it fully safe?
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From the standpoint that breathing in a metropolitan area is not fully safe, no it is not.
I use the stepper built-in to 7.1 stable and have never given it a second thought.

Try nook color tweaks.
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GuTsaV said:
Is overclocking it fully safe?
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I have run at 1200 / 1350 for the last 4 months and it has been stable and I have not seen any real detectable difference in battery performance or in how warm the device gets. The governor means that a lot of the time the Nook is running at lower clock speed anyway.
I don't recollect seeing any reports of damage on this forum to the Nook through over-clocking. Increasing voltages from the stock values on the other hand is probably not a good idea. There may possibly be longer term effects from overclocking but I'd guess the effect on lifetime is small enough that most people will have changed their device before it is significant.

GuTsaV said:
Is overclocking it fully safe?
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Being that Nooks CPU is underclocked by default. It is very safe.
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