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[Q]Linux vs Windows 7 vs Mac

I have an HP Pavilion dv4. And I was wondering if I could update to another software. Either Linux or Mac. I was wondering which was better as in perfomance and compatibility. I was also wondering if it was possible to do such.
Thanks in advance. I don't care if this question results in an opinion. That is my intention. To see what the thoughts are of the operating system.
Also, It'd be best if you do not trash an Operating system if you don't have it. It wouldn't make sense.

This will result in being your opinion. It depends on what you are planning to do with the PC. If you are planning to go into rom development, then Linux would be your best choice. If you just want a PC for gaming, everyday tasks, etc., then Windows would be your best option. Mac - I really don't see what that's good for . But once again, it's your opinion.

Putting OSX in "non-apple" hardware is technically illegal.
For general users, a lot of apps may not be compatible with Linux so it depends what you'll be using it for.
So unless you have a specific purpose or function to run Linux, stick with Windows..

Theonew is once again correct, Linux for developers and geeks etc.. Windows for Gamers and normal people. Mac is really for people that do video/photo editing and design and stuff like that. That's where you missed the point Theonew
Final Cut Pro is cutting edge in video editing and as a result it's only available for Mac OS X...

Well.. I want a pc with Geek super abilities since I do have an Android. So that crosses Mac off the list. Mac is of more use for people with iDevices
At the same time I want to play games like Minecraft.
Will Linux run .exe programs or is it like mac.. I highly doubt it will run .exe programs.. but better safe then sorry
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Jimlarck said:
Well.. I want a pc with Geek super abilities since I do have an Android. So that crosses Mac off the list. Mac is of more use for people with iDevices
At the same time I want to play games like Minecraft.
Will Linux run .exe programs or is it like mac.. I highly doubt it will run .exe programs.. but better safe then sorry
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Linux will not run executable files. It uses archives instead (e.g. tgz).

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Why dont you try dual boot? You will have the best of both OS's.
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If you're interested in trying out different operating systems why don't you look into virtualization such as VMware.

You can use wine to run exe files on linux. However if you're just a casual user then it's really just a waste for you to try a Linux OS.
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Jimlarck said:
Well.. I want a pc with Geek super abilities since I do have an Android. So that crosses Mac off the list. Mac is of more use for people with iDevices
At the same time I want to play games like Minecraft.
Will Linux run .exe programs or is it like mac.. I highly doubt it will run .exe programs.. but better safe then sorry
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Linux DOES run minecraft! I play on it all the on Unbuntu.
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tanner4137 said:
Linux DOES run minecraft! I play on it all the on Unbuntu.
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All I needed to know can anyone tell Me how to update the HP Pavilion dv4 to Linux?
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TeeJay3800 said:
Moved to Off-Topic.
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How is this off-topic? :l
It was a question
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Mac wins. My say is complete
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calc said:
Putting OSX in "non-apple" hardware is technically illegal.
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Is it illegal or simply a violation of TOS/User agreement?
There is a difference. One is criminal and the other is civil.
If you deem it "illegal" then how so? Just curious.

Jimlarck said:
All I needed to know can anyone tell Me how to update the HP Pavilion dv4 to Linux?
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For ubuntu, just download wubi (available here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer)
It will beautifully setup a dualboot with windows and get your Linux environment setup in minutes. But one disclaimer, you will have to figure out how to get WiFi working. HP laptops and wireless don't get along well, be prepared to take some time to find the drivers. But if your using ethernet, you will probably be ready to go right out of the box
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Iam using windows 7 in my pc..
But i also dualboot ubuntu for my development.. so i like both of them
Lol
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Mehhhhh.... Anyone know of a fix to fix wireless internet then? I want all the information before I jump ship
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Jimlarck said:
Mehhhhh.... Anyone know of a fix to fix wireless internet then? I want all the information before I jump ship
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Did a quick search and found an issue with wifi on an HP Pavilion DV4 laptop. The fix was said to install "b43-fwcutter" & "bcmwl-kernel-source" (Source - Linuxquestions.org). You may want to take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8848735&postcount=5.

Theonew said:
Did a quick search and found an issue with wifi on an HP Pavilion DV4 laptop. The fix was said to install "b43-fwcutter" & "bcmwl-kernel-source" (Source - Linuxquestions.org). This seems to be the fix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8539988#post8539988.
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Man I love xda and the awesome people like that. They help and take time to help others. Stay awesome everybody
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Anyone ever get a windows install on a thunderbolt?

Just curious if its possible
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T41NT said:
Just curious if its possible
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I dont know about windows but u could do Ubuntu.
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I use OnLive Desktop on my T101 Transformer 10" Tablet... But it's not compatible with non-tablet Android devices.

I had backtrack 5 on my bolt. U can install windows xp. Google it there are guides.
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It's actually quite easy. It runs very slow, but boots nonetheless.

The big question here may be "why would you want to install Win OS to your Android device?" I understand it was just mainly a theoretical question, but since Android is a Linux derivative - I could imagine formatting your device and installing it, but as icedventimocha said:
It runs very slow, but boots nonetheless.
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Ubuntu at this rate is a kinda slow but alas its still the beginning of the possibilities.

Klonopin said:
The big question here may be "why would you want to install Win OS to your Android device?" I understand it was just mainly a theoretical question, but since Android is a Linux derivative - I could imagine formatting your device and installing it, but as icedventimocha said:
Ubuntu at this rate is a kinda slow but alas its still the beginning of the possibilities.
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For development or theming I guess. I can't think of any other reason but linux is a lot better for that and not as heavy so it's faster.
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If you go to ubuntus website they are actually working on integrating it into android phones, so when in dock mode your phone becomes a PC.
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icedventimocha said:
If you go to ubuntus website they are actually working on integrating it into android phones, so when in dock mode your phone becomes a PC.
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That's sick.
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jonah1234 said:
That's sick.
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How do you like the DNA?
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Klonopin said:
The big question here may be "why would you want to install Win OS to your Android device?" I understand it was just mainly a theoretical question, but since Android is a Linux derivative - I could imagine formatting your device and installing it, but as icedventimocha said:
Ubuntu at this rate is a kinda slow but alas its still the beginning of the possibilities.
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Because the active tile thing is an outstanding idea. I'd like to see it for android.

icedventimocha said:
How do you like the DNA?
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Love it. Super fast and would have loved to see your work over there. Here's what I get on quadrant. How's the note 2?
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jonah1234 said:
Love it. Super fast and would have loved to see your work over there. Here's what I get on quadrant. How's the note 2?
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Freaking awesome. I liked the dna when I looked at it, but no removable battery and no sdcard was the deal breaker. And after all the update delays and just the overall poor life of the thunderbolt made me go with a non HTC device. They lost me as a customer for sure. But the spen and multi Window are just sick.
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Windows RT ThinkTank

Hi all,
As Cotulla ported windows RT to the HD2 what is the likelyhood that we could get this booting on the PI?

Microsoft don't release the sources to the public, and Microsoft have minimum specs that manufacturers have to follow before they give them the source. Besides, the processor would be too slow and I have Windows 8 Pro on my PC anyway.
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And people don't realize how limited RT is. You HAVE to run apps off the store. You can't run or install executable files.
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NathanBookham said:
Microsoft don't release the sources to the public, and Microsoft have minimum specs that manufacturers have to follow before they give them the source. Besides, the processor would be too slow and I have Windows 8 Pro on my PC anyway.
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And people don't realize how limited RT is. You HAVE to run apps off the store. You can't run or install executable files.
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Do you know what the HTC HD2 is?
Its a Old windows Mobile phone Arm6 1gbz 512 meg ram.
If Windows RT can be ported to that it can be ported to the PI.
You should read the artical on the Portal before you make sweeping comments like we need the source or it doesn't meet the specs.

Yeah, but didn't the HD2 have Android and Windows Phone 7.
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NathanBookham said:
Yeah, but didn't the HD2 have Android and Windows Phone 7.
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Ported to it. It only shipped with windows mobile 6.5

That's interesting. Thought you could choose to run Android 2.3 or Windows Phone 7. I might be thinking of another phone. :what:
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NathanBookham said:
That's interesting. Thought you could choose to run Android 2.3 or Windows Phone 7. I might be thinking of another phone. :what:
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Nope it only shipped with windows mobile 6.5. XDA has kept the device alive by porting anything that will run on arm to it.

Yeah, I'm deffo thinking of another device.
It would be interesting to run it on the Pi, but I wouldn't use it as I have it on my desktop machine. Hats off to you if you manage to port it! Good luck!
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HD2 has ARMv7 Cortex-A8 Core, but Pi has an ARMv6 ARM11 Core
different arch versions will make it hard to get a successful boot on Pi

ExtremeGTX said:
HD2 has ARMv7 Cortex-A8 Core, but Pi has an ARMv6 ARM11 Core
different arch versions will make it hard to get a successful boot on Pi
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That's the issue. It isn't rather easy trying to port ARMv7 binaries to ARMv6.
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ARMv6 is dead. Although I have smooth CM10.1 on my ZTE Skate 700mhz ARMv6 phone.

Oscar-Mark said:
ARMv6 is dead. Although I have smooth CM10.1 on my ZTE Skate 700mhz ARMv6 phone.
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I have JB on my Ace
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Off-topic but related to this thread
Recently in 2k11 Google started the lnar xprize which my fathers team is working on but they aren't on xda...They have Windows rt to control theyre robot which has a rPi mounted on it running Linux .... And fyi HD2 was given official WP7 update

death_sinker said:
And fyi HD2 was given official WP7 update
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FYI you are wrong...
There was NO official WP7 update!
I had a HD2 before my Desire S now and it ran Win 6.5/WP7/WP8/Android/Debian/Ubuntu/an a bunch of other Linux Distris.

Thanks

WEC 7 on Raspberry Pi
I'm not sure that Windows RT supports architectures older than Arm-v7.
You may run Windows Embedded Compact 7 (aka Win CE) on it. You can find BSPs on here:
http://ceonpi.codeplex.com

tjsooley said:
Hi all,
As Cotulla ported windows RT to the HD2 what is the likelyhood that we could get this booting on the PI?
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Why would you want to ruin a perfectly usable device with Windows of any kind?
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If you don't know how to use Windows it doesn't mean it ruins devices (at least devices owned by others).
Actually, google is ruining devices.

winrt
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HD2 has ARMv7 Cortex-A8 Core, but Pi has an ARMv6 ARM11 Core
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the pi 3 has arm v7

[Q] do you use windows mobile 6.x with WVGA resolution?

simple question with simple answers.
YES ... if you do.
NO ... if you dont.

I use my Xperia X1 as my reserve phone.

thanks, the reason i ask is because im making a game (alpha atm) and want to see if there are still people that use WM 6.x with a WVGA res.

Has my time machine worked? Dude it's 2013. Make something for Windows phone 8 or Android
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ak700 said:
Has my time machine worked? Dude it's 2013. Make something for Windows phone 8 or Android
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according to your profile you are 107 years old so i guess your time machine has worked (great scott!!) or did that time machine give you a bump on the head?
yes its 2013 and yes there are people who still do use WM6.x because its stable and reliable with a mature community behind it.

i have a samsung omnia i910, i think its wvga. i still use it
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Off-topic Linux thread!

Haven't seen one here so I decided to make one.
This thread is for talk about any thing Linux. Whether it be a distro, a kernel, OS, mobile Linux, anything! Keep on the topic of Linux, but feel free to talk about anything Linux!
Let me start and tell you my experience with Linux:
It started when my home computer got a virus while I was using Windows 7, tried everything to get it back. I got a recovery disk; nothing, I tried downgrading to xp; virus still persisted. I thought, let me try and use this thing (I called Linux a thing because I didn't know the word OS) a teacher recommended me trying. So I tried to install the latest build (at the time) of ubuntu, 11.04. The problem was that the screen was dim and nothing would be visible. So I had a friend come over who claims to be computer smart (not smart at all) and he said, "why not try an earlier version?" I thought "genius," so I installed it and I started using it. I loved it! It was easy to use and it was virus free! And now I am a happy user (from time to time because I need Windows for video editing) of the latest version of Linux ubuntu!
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Well, Ive asked questions of Ubuntu and Linux Mint somewhere else in OT, let me think.......
Oh yeah, HERE!!
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Also, Archer does not appreciate if one starts a thread, and does not initially contribute to it. Simply stating, "This the official OT thread, discuss people!!" Does not count as an initial contribution.
I see that you edited your OP. I retract my statement where I said you did not contribute to your own thread.

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Well, Ive asked questions of Ubuntu and Linux Mint somewhere else in OT, let me think.......
Oh yeah, HERE!!
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Also, Archer does not appreciate if one starts a thread, and does not initially contribute to it. Simply stating, "This the official OT <something> thread, discuss people!!" Does not count as an initial contribution.
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I made an initial contribution, thanks for the tip. If a mod wants to lock they can, but I feel Linux needs its own thread.
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I've been using Linux for about 5 years now and never looked back. Absolutely no need for Windows. Arch Linux ftw!
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ArianaGrande said:
...but I feel Linux needs its own thread.
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I kind of agree. Linux is an entire different animal than Winders, so it should have it's own thread.
But with the powers that be moving individual device O/T threads here, it'll just get lost in the clutter.
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kindofabuzz said:
Absolutely no need for Windows.
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I don't understand why Linux users hate Windows. I dual boot Windows 8 and I love it. Bet all the Windows haters loved it before they switched to Linux.
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cmason37 said:
I don't understand why Linux users hate Windows. I dual boot Windows 8 and I love it. Bet all the Windows haters loved it before they switched to Linux.
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^This^ I'm dual booting W7 and Mint. Each have there advantages and disadvantages.

I'm learning to use Linux to write ROMs and kernels...
Reading through the guides crazily
And I got w7+Ubuntu
Sorry for my bad English.
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No Windows 8 lovers? Don't knock it til you try it.
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Some of us have tried it. We've tried to like it. The tablet interface needs to stay on tablets. It's not being afraid or resistant to change, it's that doesn't work well in the enterprise area, or is not ergonomically acceptable when it comes to touch screen lap/desktops.
The Metro interface is a reverse of what MSFT has done in the past. Instead of shoe-horning a desktop UI into a mobile device, they're trying to put the mobile device UI onto the desktop. Doesn't work that well in either instance.

It's just the start screen. The desktop I'd still there.
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They both are good in there own way, but ubuntu in the future is going to be the dominate OS with Windows next and Mac third.
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It's just the start screen. The desktop I'd still there.
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Not really. With legacy apps, yes. Not with the newer apps that they're trying to push.

But the point is you don't have to use the " apps"

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But the point is you don't have to use the " apps"
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But the point is you don't have to use the " apps"
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MSFT is pushing for it. They want software to go through them like Apple does with their store.
Yes, most software isn't Metro'ed yet, but some things I would use in Windows just might eventually go that way.

This isn't a Microsoft thread. STFU about Microsoft.
Anyway, has anyone tried Elementary OS Luna? It's still in beta but I think it's great.

I looked at some reviews of it... Joli OS? It's cool, a cloud OS, you need to register annd you can acces your OS from any browser, or you can boot it off a flash drive,or install it to your hard drive...:thumbup:
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MSFT is pushing for it. They want software to go through them like Apple does with their store.
Yes, most software isn't Metro'ed yet, but some things I would use in Windows just might eventually go that way.
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For most consumers that's a good thing. I think there's always going to be a disconnect between Linux users and mainstream consumer needs. Not that I don't agree but MS is a business and Apple has invented a successful money farm that any business would be happy to replicate.

How would you guys rate Fedora? I'm thinking about trying it.
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