I've been debating waiting for the official Rogers ICS upgrade to get the new hboot or going S-OFF with the wire trick process.
I'm getting closer and closer to doing the wire trick, but seems like a slightly more dangerous process than I'm use to. I'm usually very happy to root/s-off my phones with software, but a little hardware trick seems like an extra step.
Was wondering how many fellow Rogers Raider users have taken the plunge and how many are waiting...
i did mine, im on rogers
so easy to install lets say darkrider rom with s-off
I did it on mine, wasn't bad at all
Bell RaiderRider here. Exactly same device as Rogers's. I SOFFed and it worked like a charm. I am also under Dark Raider.
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.
I spent an hour getting S-off. And I'm sure I made lots of wrong connections. Its fairly safe. If you carefull ull be fine. Follow the directions.
If you need to sim unlock. Do it before you flash other roms. My phone is rogers and I flashed to ICS and couldn't sim unlock. I had to flash back to stock so I could unlock to use with telus.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
Need of S OFF on HTC
Hey BRO,
A little update on HTC Vivid S OFF!!!!!!!
S OFF is very much necessary, if you wish to install Custom ROM's, Bcos without S OFF the kernel does not get flashed at all. I tried flashing various ROM's like DarkRaider, HOLICS, RumFloat etc... the ROM gets installed and you get the complete looks but certain hardwares does not work at all ( Wifi, Wifi tethering etc..) and even if the OC does not change!!!!!
Its very simple to do the S OFF and I have checked a lot of reviews who have done the S OFF, and so far I have'nt seen a case of getting the phone bricked.
I would like to share few things what I did for the S OFF.
I was basically on the AT&T Official ICS.
Step 1. I used the Hasoons All in one kit to unlock the bootloader as well as to install the recovery mode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498003
Note: Do not use any other options from this tool other than unlocking bootloader and installing the recover CWM.
Step 2. Then I installed a custom rooted ROM eg: DarkRaider so far the best, RumFloat many u might find and make sure its for ICS alone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586613
Step3. Simply fask the Custom ROM with the help of CWM and now your phone is fully rooted, please verify the same by installing a program which needs rot access like titanium backup etc..
Step4. NOW is the time when you can do the S OFF, why we installed customer ROM pre-rooted is because, we need the phone to be rooted before doing the S OFF.
Its very simple just follow the steps basically on the following site.
http://unlimited.io
1. Install the software mentioned on the above link according to your phone model and the computer OS.
2. Then RUN the program as a Administrator after connecting the phone via USB cable and make sure the USB debugging is turned ON on the phone.
3. The program will automatically detect the phone and the program will prompt you to do the wire trick. Without any hesitation go ahead and do the wire trick and you can see the message like phone is gonna reboot and then turn your phone and look on the screen and you can see the message S OFF.
Hope this must have helped you as well as increase your confidence in doing the hard wire trick!!!!!
After getting the S OFF!! Flash the Custom ROM and under software version if you check the kernel details, you will find the change!!!!
Eg: Before you do anything check and see the Kernel, you can see the stock ICS kernel even after flashing the Custom ROM.
Then I want you to check the Kernel details after flashing the custom ROM right after S OFF. then you will see the new kernel!!!!!!!!!
cool, thanks all, you've convinced me to take the plunge!
now i just need to find an insulated wire somewhere...
FOR HTC Vivid !!!!!!!
RLP06 said:
cool, thanks all, you've convinced me to take the plunge!
now i just need to find an insulated wire somewhere...
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Yes !!! Go ahead and you will enjoy using your VIVID after S OFF!!!!!
s-off'ed now!
was sober still after 3 wire tricks and finally got it on the 4th, was almost ready to give up!
Congrats Bro!!
I haven't dared yet... but I will probably try soon
Any Rogers Raider got the problem as mine? (ICS/boot loop)
Hi, any rogers's Raider get the problem as mine, at this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26799179#post26799179
basically, it seems the SIM card not compatible for ICS.
I flash back to Roger's stock rom, them very thing works.
But I miss the cool sweep2wake under ICS.
+1
It was easy after READING The instructions a few times over to completely understand thew processes
for those who havent done the wiretrick yet, i figured id toss in my two cents.
i have the vivid and it was the night i got it or the next day that i finally went for it. and it wasnt as hard as i had thought. i know i messed it up a little the first time i tried it, and the phone wouldnt do anything, i panicked and thought i had bricked it, bc not even pulling the battery got the phone to boot, but then i made the connection again and the phone booted, it took another try or two before i got the s-off to work. but i, luckily, got everything working and have enjoyed it.
hope this helps somehow
priji85 said:
Hey BRO,
A little update on HTC Vivid S OFF!!!!!!!
S OFF is very much necessary, if you wish to install Custom ROM's, Bcos without S OFF the kernel does not get flashed at all. I tried flashing various ROM's like DarkRaider, HOLICS, RumFloat etc... the ROM gets installed and you get the complete looks but certain hardwares does not work at all ( Wifi, Wifi tethering etc..) and even if the OC does not change!!!!!
Its very simple to do the S OFF and I have checked a lot of reviews who have done the S OFF, and so far I have'nt seen a case of getting the phone bricked.
I would like to share few things what I did for the S OFF.
I was basically on the AT&T Official ICS.
Step 1. I used the Hasoons All in one kit to unlock the bootloader as well as to install the recovery mode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498003
Note: Do not use any other options from this tool other than unlocking bootloader and installing the recover CWM.
Step 2. Then I installed a custom rooted ROM eg: DarkRaider so far the best, RumFloat many u might find and make sure its for ICS alone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586613
Step3. Simply fask the Custom ROM with the help of CWM and now your phone is fully rooted, please verify the same by installing a program which needs rot access like titanium backup etc..
Step4. NOW is the time when you can do the S OFF, why we installed customer ROM pre-rooted is because, we need the phone to be rooted before doing the S OFF.
Its very simple just follow the steps basically on the following site.
http://unlimited.io
1. Install the software mentioned on the above link according to your phone model and the computer OS.
2. Then RUN the program as a Administrator after connecting the phone via USB cable and make sure the USB debugging is turned ON on the phone.
3. The program will automatically detect the phone and the program will prompt you to do the wire trick. Without any hesitation go ahead and do the wire trick and you can see the message like phone is gonna reboot and then turn your phone and look on the screen and you can see the message S OFF.
Hope this must have helped you as well as increase your confidence in doing the hard wire trick!!!!!
After getting the S OFF!! Flash the Custom ROM and under software version if you check the kernel details, you will find the change!!!!
Eg: Before you do anything check and see the Kernel, you can see the stock ICS kernel even after flashing the Custom ROM.
Then I want you to check the Kernel details after flashing the custom ROM right after S OFF. then you will see the new kernel!!!!!!!!!
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ok so im gonna assume your step to s off is also sort of base from this forum " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696424 " which is using the s off all in one tool kit by hasoon2000. according to this tool you need to have an empty sd card in the sdcard slot when runing the program. once its done it will promt me to do the wire trick (which is also showed in the video in this toolkit on how to do it) but in the video, the card is already removed when performing the trick. thats where i got lost... :/
I did mine also S-OFF
took almost 10 tries
so I guess it's safe
can anyone help me how u guys did it...
i have the s off all in one downloaded. im just confused on the part where u need to have an empty sdcard in my phone while running the program and doin the wire trick after when i saw the card is no more...
i'd really appreciate any help
RLP06 said:
cool, thanks all, you've convinced me to take the plunge!
now i just need to find an insulated wire somewhere...
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Amen to that. It's ny turn to do it now Can I borrow your wire??
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium
I beleive the SD card should be inserted while doing this procedure!!!
RLP06 said:
s-off'ed now!
was sober still after 3 wire tricks and finally got it on the 4th, was almost ready to give up!
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Ha, I had to do it like 20 times because I was only counting to 1. I used the cheapest wire I could find. Remember though, you can get away with using other ROMs if you want some stock ICS action.
Hi there
This thread was originally written to get some answers about rooting my Incredible S, and as I have succeeded, I promised a guide-ish thing about the procedure I've followed. So here it is !
You can find the original post quoted at the end of this one.
\\ WARNING //
I'm really no expert in rooting, nor in anything close to that. If you do not have the exact same specifications that I had (see below), I won't be able to answer any questions regarding issues you may encounter while following the steps listed here.
However, I'm sure there are plenty of other people here who know a lot and could help you if necessary !
Also, I may not hold this topic updated, as new recovery/rom/blackrose/etc versions may be released.
\\ SPECIFICATIONS //
Here is how the device looks like before doing aything :
HTC Incredible S
***LOCKED***
VIVO PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M
(To get that info : Turn off your phone - Hold Volume Down and press the power button - Bootloader screen will show up)
Android 4.0.4
Sense 3.6
Software 4.10.405.1
20.74.30.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M
(To get that info : Go into Settings > About and browse the various menus)
\\ CREDITS //
I take no credit whatsoever for the knowledge on which this post is based. Anything other that the phrasing (and some specific steps) is not mine, and mostly extracted from here, there, here, there, here and there.
I thank everyone of these threads for that.
\\ SUMMARY //
Through this guide, you will :
1/ Download and set up everything you need
2/ Backup your data
3/ Unlock your bootloader via HTCdev
4/ Flash a recovery (Clockworkmod)
5/ Install Superuser and test root access
6/ Backup the stock ROM
7/ Run Nonverbose's script
8/ Install new RUU
9/ Use Revolutionary to get S-OFF
10/ Flash a custom ROM (CyanogenMod 7)
11/ Install Blackrose 2.03.0000
12/ Pick a ROM and flash it
\\ BEFORE YOU START //
Allright, you decided to step into the big unknown, nice !
Well, it's probably not that unknown, but it was for me when I started.
First, be aware that this might take a while, meaning no using of your phone during the process. I might recommend to remove your SIM card, that way you'll be certain nothing (no one) is going to crush your evil plans.
Then, be sure to have a full battery charge before you start, even though you'll be on charging mode now and then.
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1 // DOWNLOAD AND SET UP EVERYTHING
> On your C: drive, create an Android folder
> In C:/Android, create a "Download" folder, where you'll put everything listed below
> In C:/Android, create a "Revolutionary" folder
> In C:/Android, create a "Downgrade" folder
> In C:/Android, create a "BlackRose" folder
> In C:/Android/Downgrade, create a "DowngradeKit" and a "RUU" folder
a - Get HTCSync here
b - Get IncS_MVDTKv3.4.1.zip here
c - Get the RUU here (RUU used for downgrade, model number PG3213000(Typical IncS) ) and put it in the C:/Android/Downgrade/RUU folder
d - Get ClockWorkMod recovery here and put it in C:/Android (Scroll to HTC Incredible S, and get last version - 5.0.2.0 at the time)
e - Get SuperUser here
f - Get Cyanogen ROM here (I used stable version, but feel free to use release candidate if available)
g - Get BlackRose here, at the end of the post. Unzip it in your BlackRose folder.
> Install HTCsync, then uninstall it (we only want the drivers)
> Unzip IncS_MVDTKv3.4.1.zip into C:/Android/Downgrade/DowngradeKit - Copy everything from the "files" folder to C:/Android
> Put Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip at the root of your SD card
> Put the Cyanogen ROM zip at the root of your SD card
> Take note somewhere of your Serial Number (usually under the battery)
Allright, now you're all set up to begin !
2 // BACKUP YOUR DATA
You should know that by doing step 3, you'll erase everything on your phone (not on the SDcard).
So if you want to backup stuff, now is the right time !
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any way to backup app data like saved games and such without a rooted phone. If anyone finds it, say the words !
Depending on apps and the way that are handled contacts, SMS, etc, everyone's phone is different.
To know how to backup your stuff, google will probably be your best friend. What I used was :
- App Backup & Restore (only saves the .apk of the apps, so you don't have to download them again)
- SMS Backup & Restore
- Contact export via the stock contact app
3 // UNLOCK BOOTLOADER
Now that you've backed up everything and you are absolutely sure you want to proceed, visit htcdev.com/bootloader and create a free account.
Select your device (mine was Incredible S WWE), and follow the steps. These are pretty simple and well explained, you shouldn't have any trouble. Your phone will show up a confirmation screen at some point, last chance to cancel.
When it's over, your Bootloader is officially unlocked !
4 // FLASH A RECOVERY
Switch off your phone, and go into the bootloader by holding Volume Down and pressing the power button.
Now there is a nice **UNLOCKED** where there previously was a **LOCKED** !
Wait a bit for some zips to be checked, then plug in your USB to your computer.
Using volume up and down, navigate into the menus, highlight FASTBOOT and press the power button to confirm.
On your PC, go to the start menu, Run, and type "cmd". Manage your way through here to go into C:/Android.
From this point, you should be certain that in this folder there is the ClockWorkMod .img file, your Unlock_code.bin and the files you moved earlier from the downgrade kit.
You can now type just after the C:/android :
fastboot flash recovery recovery_name.img
In my case, that was :
fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-vivo.img
After a few seconds, your recovery is now flashed. Select "bootloader" on your phone, and you're back on the first bootloader screen.
5 // INSTALL SUPERUSER AND TEST ROOT ACCESS
From the bootloader screen, highlight "recovery" and press the power button. The HTC screen comes up for a while, then you're on the ClockWorkMod Interface.
- Volume down to select "install zip from sdcard".
- "choose zip from sdcard"
- Select the SuperUser zip you put on your SD on step 1 (Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip)
- Reboot your phone.
Now you have rooted your phone ! Let's just be sure :
- Activate USB debugging (Settings > Developper options) and connect your phone to the computer (charge only)
- Start menu > Run > cmd
- Go into C:/Android
- Type adb.exe shell and press Enter - You obtain $, meaning you're connected to your device.
- Type su and press Enter - You obtain #, meaning that you got root access !
You can now also see a new SuperUser app in your appdrawer.
6 // BACKUP STOCK ROM
Now that you have rooted your phone, you should make a nandroid backup (= backup the entire current state of your phone) in case something goes wrong and you want to go back to this step.
- Switch off your phone, boot into the bootloader screen (Vol Down + Power button).
- Go into recovery, select "Backup and restore", then "backup"
- Reboot your system
There is now a backup on your SD card, in a clockwordmod folder : transfer it to your PC if you want.
7 // RUN NONVERBOSE'S SCRIPT
- Plug your phone to your PC, charge only, USB debugging ON, fast boot OFF (in Settings > Power)
- Launch runme.cmd located in Android/Downgrade/DowngradeKit
- It'll do its stuff, while asking questions you have to answer with "y" or "n". Be honest ! For instance, "have you unlocked via HTCdev ? - y", "have you rooted your phone ? - y", "do you want a goldcard ? - [answer depending what you want]".
- It may show some disturbing lines, like "Failed no such file or directory", "Note : run RUU from fastboot". I just ignored that. But you still got to be sure that it's no major error, in that case or if you're not sure, you'll probably find an answer in the corresponding thread.
8 // INSTALL NEW RUU
After the runme.cmd has completed succesfully, you can launch the RUU file that you downloaded in step 1.
At the end of that thing, you can turn off your phone, and back on into the bootloader (Vol down + ¨Power)
Be happy, you should now have something like this :
VIVO PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.13.0000
RADIO-3805.06.03.03_M
eMMC-boot
Meaning that you downgraded your bootloader from HBOOT 2.02.0002 to HBOOT 1.13.0000 succesfully !
9 // USE REVOLUTIONARY TO GET S-OFF
- Phone in normal charge mode, USB debug ON, fast boot OFF
- Go to revolutionary.io
- Download the thing in the Download folder you created and fill the form (note : your HBOOT is now 1.13.0000)
- Keep somewhere the beta key you got
- Unzip revolutionary.zip in your Revolutionary folder.
- Run revolutionary.exe
- It'll ask to type your beta key, so go on
- It'll ask if you want to flash ClockWorkMod recovery. If you don't want to bother, say yes, you'll have a working recovery. However, it'll not be the last version, so if you prefer you can flash the recent one, exactly how you did it in step 4.
You can now turn off you phone, and back on the bootloader (vol down + power), and check that you have something like that :
-Revolutionary-
VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-6.13.1002
RADIO-3805.06.03.03_M
eMMc-boot
Well done !
Last thing to do, get SuperUser (root) back : do step 5 again (you don't have to verify root access afterwards if you are lazy)
10 // FLASH A CUSTOM ROM (CyanogenMod 7)
Great, now you're all set to flash a custom ROM, at last !
Some ROMs need BlackRose HBOOT installed (Revolution HD for example).
The thing is, to install BlackRose, you need an unsecured boot.img, which can be obtained by flashing a custom ROM !
I chose CyanogenMod 7 for the purpose of this guide, and also because I believe this is a good start if you're not yet sure what final ROM you want.
Let's get started :
- Do a second nandroid backup like explained in step 6. It's always better to have a plan B in case things go wrong.
- If you didn't put the CyanogenMod 7 (CM7) zip at the root of your SD card during step 1, do it now.
- If you're still in ClockWorkMod recovery, stay here. If not, switch off your phone, turn it back on in bootloader mode, go into recovery.
- In recovery from first menu, chose to [wipe data/factory reset], when it's done go into [advanced] and select [wipe dalvik cache]. Remember that it's always good to do these two things before flashing a new ROM.
- Go back and select [install zip from sd card], choose the CM7 zip (mine was cm-7.2.0-vivo.zip), and rock this world.
Reboot your system, and here you are with a custom ROM, oh yeah that's a relief !
You don't have to follow the rest of this guide if you're happy with this ROM, or if you wish to use another ROM which doesn't require BlackRose installed. In that case just flash the new ROM like explained in this step.
Otherwise, keep reading.
11 // INSTALL BLACKROSE 2.03.0000
- Plug your phone, charge only, USB debug ON
- Into your C:/Android/BlackRose folder, where you unzipped the BlackRose stuff you got in step 1, run BlackRose_IS.exe.
- Wait for it to be finished, you phone may reboot in bootloader/recovery.
- Turn off your phone, then back on bootloader mode.
- Hurray, you've done it ! You problably get something like that :
*** BlackRose ***
VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-2.03.0000
RADIO-3805.06.03.03_M
eMMc-boot
After this step, I got stuck on the HTC screen when I tried to turn my phone on.
If that happens to you, go into your ClockWorkMod recovery, [wipe data/factory reset], and [Advanced > wipe dalvik cache] ; then install your CM7 ROM zip again from you SD card, like you did in the previous step. Everything should go back to normal.
You have now BlackRose, S-OFF, and the CM7 ROM !
If you're pleased with that, well, keep it
If you'd like to try some other stuff, keep reading.
12 // PICK A FINAL ROM AND FLASH IT
Well, here you are ! You have done 99% of the work.
Here is a very nice thread indexing everything you might be interested in (ROMs, kernels, radios, recovery, guides, ...).
Pick a ROM from there, study it a bit to be sure that it matches your uses of the phone, then take the leap and follow the directions given in the ROM's thread !
It shouldn't be very different from what you did in step 10, but if you're not sure ask ! People will be likely to help you if you have doubts.
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Allright ! This guide is now over.
I hope you didn't run into any issues, well you shouldn't have !
If that's the case, ask me and if you started off with the exact same specifications as mine, I might help you !
Otherwise lots of people here know more than I do
Enjoy the ultimate power !
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[Q] Backup said:
Hi there
First, you should know that I have been reading forum posts around the web for a few days, comparing sources and trying to find the adequate solution for me and my phone, as I'm a pure noob in rooting.
I think I have come close to begin the procedure of rooting, but as there are multiple guides to mix, and none really spoke about backup (apps, sms and other stuff), I wanted to be 100% sure of what I'm doing, and ask here if I was doing it right !
So, I currently have :
HTC Incredible S
***LOCKED***
VIVO PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M
Android 4.0.4
Sense 3.6
Software 4.10.405.1
20.74.30.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M
Kernel : 3.0.16-gfa98030 [email protected]#1
SD card 8GB, almost full
> As I want to root that device, I landed on this nice guide from Fallen
I understood this guide, even if it doesn't mention how to flash a ROM.
But it precises "Remember it erases all data so if you need to, backup everything". And that, I don't know how.
> The attachment link for the Downgrade Kit in Fallen's guide not working, I landed on that other guide to download it, Nonverbose's script.
Again, this guide is clear, but as I've got HBOOT 2.02.0002, this part "Please note that phones with the latest ICS hboot (2.02 currently) will have to be bootloader UNLOCKED from htcdev.com. If your hboot 2.02 phone does not have an unlocked bootloader, do NOT run this script." made me thinking.
I don't really know how to unlock trough htcdev.com (I understand it might be easy and self-explanatory while doing it), and I don't know if unlocking the bootloader that way is the only thing to do before following this guide.
And this guide doesn't mention any backup, nor "carefull it erases everything", and is not explained noob-style. I wasn't so sure anymore.
> Then, I read that guide from msarmad.
I have no idea if I updated my phone with "official RUU_VIVO_ICS_35_S_HTC_WWE_4.10.405.1_Radio_20.74.3 0.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M_release_266013_signed", so I don't know if this applies to me.
And again, it briefly goes through the htcdev.com step. Also, the explanation mentions command entries and manipulations that are not quite cristal clear for the miserable newbie that I am.
No mention of this procedure erasing everything, nor backup process.
> This guide looked like the perfect match for me when I studied it a bit
But it is written in telegraphic style, with so many () )))(() that I can't be sure of fully understanding it.
Also, brief step on htcdev.com, and no mention of backup (actually it even clearly asks to wipe data factory and format sd card)
> This last guide looks simple, and explains how to flash a ROM, but all of a sudden I don't see any trace of downgrading like I read before.
So, I think all the keys for my delivrance are in these threads, but also in the answers you may give me !
My real questions are probably :
1/ How can I backup my phone before anything gets erased ?
(I mean saved games, SMS/MMS, anything on the phone that needs to be backed up)
I read a bit about MyBackup, but understood that in the 30 days trial, if you root your phone it considers it's another phone, so you can't restore your stuff.
I read a bit about Titanium backup, which seems nice but apparently only works with rooted devices.
2/ I understood that I need to downgrade from HBOOT 2.02.0002, to HBOOT 1.13.0000, so I could use revolutionary to get S-OFF, and then put Blackrose 2.02.0002 plus any choice of ROM
- Do I unlock my bootloader from htcdev.com (I should choose Incredible S WWE right ?), and then follow Fallen's guide with the Downgrade Kit downloaded on Nonverbose's guide ?
- Or unlock bootloader, then follow Nonverbose's guide (which is not a newb-step-by-step guide) ?
- Or maybe follow msarmad's guide, even though it's lots of command lines ?
- Or probably 77[...]77's guide, which I don't quite understand but seems to bring us from downgrade to ROM installing ?
3/ Talking about ROMs, I was thinking about Android Revolution HD, or MIUIv4. I've read that choosing a ROM depends on personal use of the device, so I guess I'll try and see what fits.
Is the last guide the way I have to flash a ROM after I got downgraded/S-OFF ?
I think I covered everything, in the case I did not I may post further questions in this thread !
I tried to make this post as clear as possible, as I know it's kind of unpleasant to read such a thing, especially with so much HowTos and guides out there.
I thank you in advance for your help !
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My real answers are definitely:
1. Use titanium, it's not hard to root your phone after you unlock it, all you need is to flash recovery via fastboot and flash superuser package from recovery. However your phone will be factory reset after unlock so you'll lose your data anyway.
Recovery source: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Superuser source: http://androidsu.com/superuser/
Flashing of recovery: fastboot flash recovery c:\'path to your recovery'
And you'll be needing adb: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html but you'll install it during unlock.
2. htcdev, of course. To know which version you should choose download Android Assistant app from Play Store, in section tool of the app you have system info the first is the one you need.
Use Nonverbose guide, but I had a problem with making of goldcard so I needed RUU for my version, so the info you got in chapter 1. of my story can point you to the one compatible with your device (cause WWE that's given in tutorial won't work if you have region and carrier specific one). Here is the source for RUUs: http://www.filefactory.com/f/e45d6fe3dcf51228/ just choose Gingerbread version (it iz named like that) that is specific for you. If you dont know which one tell me what version of phone you have and i will find you the right one.
Also, one more recommendation, root you device before downgrade cause I had a problem with Tacoroot exploit provided with downgrade tool, so when downgrade tool asks you if you are rooted just answer yes.
3. About rom, it's your choice, go here and find something for yourself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136463
When you're s-off, to install custom rom just put the rom.zip that you downloaded to your SD, go to recovery, do a full wipe and install it as a zip from sd card.
If you need anything more just say.
Thanks for your answer ! So, to keep it organised :
nlooooo said:
1. Use titanium, it's not hard to root your phone after you unlock it, all you need is to flash recovery via fastboot and flash superuser package from recovery. However your phone will be factory reset after unlock so you'll lose your data anyway.
Recovery source: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Superuser source: http://androidsu.com/superuser/
Flashing of recovery: fastboot flash recovery c:\'path to your recovery'
And you'll be needing adb: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html but you'll install it during unlock.
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Titanium, alright. Something I don't get, though : how do I backup data with Titanium if I have to unlock/root before to use it (therefore deleting data before I can back it up) ? Isn't the snake biting his tail ? Or maybe I didn't understand what you meant.
nlooooo said:
2. htcdev, of course. To know which version you should choose download Android Assistant app from Play Store, in section tool of the app you have system info the first is the one you need.
Use Nonverbose guide, but I had a problem with making of goldcard so I needed RUU for my version, so the info you got in chapter 1. of my story can point you to the one compatible with your device (cause WWE that's given in tutorial won't work if you have region and carrier specific one). Here is the source for RUUs: http://www.filefactory.com/f/e45d6fe3dcf51228/ just choose Gingerbread version (it iz named like that) that is specific for you. If you dont know which one tell me what version of phone you have and i will find you the right one.
Also, one more recommendation, root you device before downgrade cause I had a problem with Tacoroot exploit provided with downgrade tool, so when downgrade tool asks you if you are rooted just answer yes.
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Well, it looks a lot more complicated than just following a guide ! Basically, you say :
- Unlock bootloader via htcdev.com, using Android Assistant to know what choice I should pick in the list (htc_wwe HTC Incredible S for me, then)
- Follow Nonverbose's guide, but actually pick another RUU depending on my version (is that one the right one ?)
- Still follow the guide, but actually root before downgrade ? I thought downgrading from HBOOT 2.02.0002 to HBOOT 1.13.0000 was mandatory in order to root the device ?
I think I'm all confused about what I learned on the web the past few days, I may have mixed it up then.
So, isn't there any guide already out there, or maybe a mix of guides I could make, to take me there step by step ?
Like, for example, can't I just unlock my bootloader from htcdev.com, and then follow Fallen's guide with the Downgrade Kit downloaded on Nonverbose's guide, then flash a ROM starting from step 8 of this guide ?
Won't that work ?
If I do that, do I need to change the RUU version Fallen is giving (which seems the same that Nonverbose's) depending on mine (from the filefactory link you gave me, should I pick this one instead ?)
nlooooo said:
3. About rom, it's your choice, go here and find something for yourself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136463
When you're s-off, to install custom rom just put the rom.zip that you downloaded to your SD, go to recovery, do a full wipe and install it as a zip from sd card.
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Allright, thanks for the confirmation. Any suggestion though ?
Epilogue said:
Thanks for your answer ! So, to keep it organised :
Titanium, alright. Something I don't get, though : how do I backup data with Titanium if I have to unlock/root before to use it (therefore deleting data before I can back it up) ? Isn't the snake biting his tail ? Or maybe I didn't understand what you meant.
Well, it looks a lot more complicated than just following a guide ! Basically, you say :
- Unlock bootloader via htcdev.com, using Android Assistant to know what choice I should pick in the list (htc_wwe HTC Incredible S for me, then)
- Follow Nonverbose's guide, but actually pick another RUU depending on my version (is that one the right one ?)
- Still follow the guide, but actually root before downgrade ? I thought downgrading from HBOOT 2.02.0002 to HBOOT 1.13.0000 was mandatory in order to root the device ?
I think I'm all confused about what I learned on the web the past few days, I may have mixed it up then.
So, isn't there any guide already out there, or maybe a mix of guides I could make, to take me there step by step ?
Like, for example, can't I just unlock my bootloader from htcdev.com, and then follow Fallen's guide with the Downgrade Kit downloaded on Nonverbose's guide, then flash a ROM starting from step 8 of this guide ?
Won't that work ?
If I do that, do I need to change the RUU version Fallen is giving (which seems the same that Nonverbose's) depending on mine (from the filefactory link you gave me, should I pick this one instead ?)
Allright, thanks for the confirmation. Any suggestion though ?
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Ok, as I told you you'll loose you data when you unlock bootloader so Titanium is not a solution. To backup SMS/MMS you can use some app rom app store like Backup SMS, and for contacts just export them to sd card.
Downgrade is mandatory to s-off your device, not to root it. To root it, as I explained you, after unlocking flash recovery via fastboot, and then from that recovery flash Superuser app as a flashable zip that can be obtained on the link I gave you.
As your device is WWE version you can use RUU given in Nonverbose guide. The RUUs you posted are ICS and they have 2.02 hboot and that's the same hboot you have on your device that has to be downgraded to 1.13 to use Revolutionary. For that GINGERBREAD RUU is needed, and the appropriate one is RUU given in Nonverbose tutorial.
So unlock, root, downgrade, revolutionary to s-off are the steps you need. I recommend root cause sometimes Tacoroot exploit that is used to flash unsecured boot.img doesn't work (like in my case), so when downgrade toolkit asks you if you have root just type yes.
I had more problems than you, I had CHN_HK version and given RUU didn't work for me, goldcard tool from toolkit also, so I flashed some RUU i had (and was Sense 3.0 with 2.00 hboot). After that I had to downgrade again but toolkit didn't want to work (tacoroot problem), so I had to root it and download Gingerbread version for Asian market, and after that I succeded to downgrade.
For rom, hmm, I use Android Revolution HD 4.0 but for that you need Blackrose hboot, for that, and that's another story. Just search along the index thread I gave you and when you find what you like read the requirement and will work something out.
Allright ! Thanks for your help mate
I'm thinking about editing my first post and make it a guide-ish thing, explaining with my poor experience how I got where I am now, from where I left, step by step. It may help someone as noob as I am, with the same device setup, to change everything !
Anyway, what I did was turning :
HTC Incredible S
***LOCKED***
VIVO PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M
Android 4.0.4
Sense 3.6
Software 4.10.405.1
20.74.30.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M
into :
HTC Incredible S
*** BlackRose ***
VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-2.03.0000
RADIO-3805.06.03.03_M
ROM : CyanogenMod 7 (Release candidate not available, so I used stable 7.2.0)
Android 2.3.7
20.2808.30.085AU_3805.06.03.03_M
I have CyanogenMod 7 because I used it in order to install BlackRose, and i'm keeping it until I know what ROM I want to use. Is there a place where ROMs are listed and compared, regarding battery performance, bugs, functionalities... ? If not I guess I'll just have to test among the ones listed here
The path I chose was a mix of information from nlooooo's intel, Fallen's guide, Nonverbose's, msarmad's, 77777777777777's, Lynt's, and some info from BlackRose or ROM threads.
All of these were very helpfull, so here is a global thanks !
I spent some hours decrypting all these with my untrained_to_anything_about_rooting brain to make it a (kind of) sucessfull succession of steps, but it was worth it !
The only bad news is that I couldn't find any way to save my saved games and app data before I had to erase everything. Well, it'll be a good excuse to play again the games I loved, finished and forgot !
If anyone wants to know the procedure I used before I get the time to transform the first post into a simili-guide, don't hesitate to ask !
Thanks again everywhere
guide
Hey there,
I would love to know the procedure that you have used, as I have an HTC INCR S with the exact specifications as yours. If you could post some kind of a guide, I would be eternally grateful! I am quite afraid of being stuck in HTC 'limbo' and/or making my device unusable :-" ) Thanks a lot! Looking forward to your post
Epilogue said:
Allright ! Thanks for your help mate
I'm thinking about editing my first post and make it a guide-ish thing, explaining with my poor experience how I got where I am now, from where I left, step by step. It may help someone as noob as I am, with the same device setup, to change everything !
Anyway, what I did was turning :
HTC Incredible S
***LOCKED***
VIVO PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.02.0002
RADIO-3831.18.00.11_M
Android 4.0.4
Sense 3.6
Software 4.10.405.1
20.74.30.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M
into :
HTC Incredible S
*** BlackRose ***
VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-2.03.0000
RADIO-3805.06.03.03_M
ROM : CyanogenMod 7 (Release candidate not available, so I used stable 7.2.0)
Android 2.3.7
20.2808.30.085AU_3805.06.03.03_M
I have CyanogenMod 7 because I used it in order to install BlackRose, and i'm keeping it until I know what ROM I want to use. Is there a place where ROMs are listed and compared, regarding battery performance, bugs, functionalities... ? If not I guess I'll just have to test among the ones listed here
The path I chose was a mix of information from nlooooo's intel, Fallen's guide, Nonverbose's, msarmad's, 77777777777777's, Lynt's, and some info from BlackRose or ROM threads.
All of these were very helpfull, so here is a global thanks !
I spent some hours decrypting all these with my untrained_to_anything_about_rooting brain to make it a (kind of) sucessfull succession of steps, but it was worth it !
The only bad news is that I couldn't find any way to save my saved games and app data before I had to erase everything. Well, it'll be a good excuse to play again the games I loved, finished and forgot !
If anyone wants to know the procedure I used before I get the time to transform the first post into a simili-guide, don't hesitate to ask !
Thanks again everywhere
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Glad to see someone could use the time I spent on this
I'm currently writing the guide on my spare time, it might take a few days ! But I hope it'll be cristal clear and easy to follow.
Thanks for the interest !
thanks!
thanks a bunch!! I'll be waiting
Epilogue said:
Glad to see someone could use the time I spent on this
I'm currently writing the guide on my spare time, it might take a few days ! But I hope it'll be cristal clear and easy to follow.
Thanks for the interest !
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Allright, this took a while, but here it is !
I also changed the topic's name to be more accurate.
If anyone notices any mistake, please report ! As I'm no pro in rooting, I would not like to lead folks to somewhere bad.
Also, excuse my english, as it is not my native.
Hope it helps
Hi Epilogue,
I've registered on xda just to say thank you. Specifications you mentioned are same with my phone's. So I followed the instructions step by step. I did exactly what you did. Finally, I have a rooted, unlocked and S-Off phone. This is the best guide on xda about Incredible S and you did great job. Other guides look complicated for newbies. This thread is highly useful, so I'm appreciated for your help and effort. I want to ask a few questions if you don't mind.
After the installation of BlackRose, can I flash any ROM I'd like ? I mean, are there any ROM that I must get back to Revolutionary in order to work the ROM properly ? Besides, which ROM do you prefer in your device ? CyanogenMod 7 looks smooth and fast, but I'd like to flash JellyBean ROM. However, JB ROMs that Nikhil007 made for IncS, seem buggy and I've no idea which one is fastest and stable. Hope you suggest me something about it. Thank you so much.
step 8 making problems
First of all, i find your guide very comprehensive and helpful - but I have a problem with installing the new RUU. If I have checked everything correctly, my phone is absolutely the same like yours. But when i make the RUU run, I get "error 155". that means obviously, that I have to install another RUU. Does anyone know this and can help me. What I should mention perhaps is, that the link for the HTC-Drivers does not work correctly, so I couldn't install them. when I connect my phone to my PC, there is some Driver-software installed from my phone. As my PC then recognizes the phone, I hope, this is ok?!
derkleinebroicher said:
First of all, i find your guide very comprehensive and helpful - but I have a problem with installing the new RUU. If I have checked everything correctly, my phone is absolutely the same like yours. But when i make the RUU run, I get "error 155". that means obviously, that I have to install another RUU. Does anyone know this and can help me. What I should mention perhaps is, that the link for the HTC-Drivers does not work correctly, so I couldn't install them. when I connect my phone to my PC, there is some Driver-software installed from my phone. As my PC then recognizes the phone, I hope, this is ok?!
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Error 155 means that you have not relocked the 2.02.0002 bootloader. You must relock the bootloader before you can install a RUU.
tpbklake said:
Error 155 means that you have not relocked the 2.02.0002 bootloader. You must relock the bootloader before you can install a RUU.
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UUUPS! Didn't I read somewhere, that bootloader in version 2.02.0002 has to be unlocked for downgrade? But if you think so, I will try and report. And to relock, I use the HTCdev or what?
Yesterday I tried to downgrade with relocked bootloader but got another error, while running the RUU (I think, it was error 140 - wrong bootloader). With an alternative RUU it didn't work neither. So if anyone could help, I would be thankful.
OK, I finally found the mistake, I had made. I had put some of the required things for the runme.cmd into the wrong place. Tokk some time to find it out. Now I'm happily rooted and s-off. So this thread may be closed.
derkleinebroicher said:
OK, I finally found the mistake, I had made. I had put some of the required things for the runme.cmd into the wrong place. Tokk some time to find it out. Now I'm happily rooted and s-off. So this thread may be closed.
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This thread is not made for you or by you so don't ask for the impossible
nlooooo said:
This thread is not made for you or by you so don't ask for the impossible
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lol why would we want to close this? Its a helpful instruction thread
Yeah, you,re right of course. Must have been to tired after hours of trying to get s-off. Off course, this thread may NOT be closed, as it is really awesome!!
Thanks everyone for the positive feedback !
destroyer313 said:
Hi Epilogue,
I've registered on xda just to say thank you. Specifications you mentioned are same with my phone's. So I followed the instructions step by step. I did exactly what you did. Finally, I have a rooted, unlocked and S-Off phone. This is the best guide on xda about Incredible S and you did great job. Other guides look complicated for newbies. This thread is highly useful, so I'm appreciated for your help and effort. I want to ask a few questions if you don't mind.
After the installation of BlackRose, can I flash any ROM I'd like ? I mean, are there any ROM that I must get back to Revolutionary in order to work the ROM properly ? Besides, which ROM do you prefer in your device ? CyanogenMod 7 looks smooth and fast, but I'd like to flash JellyBean ROM. However, JB ROMs that Nikhil007 made for IncS, seem buggy and I've no idea which one is fastest and stable. Hope you suggest me something about it. Thank you so much.
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Glad it could help you, thanks for the opinion !
After BlackRose, I think every ROM should work properly, but to be sure check the requirements on the ROM you'd like to flash.
Personally, i tried Viper Vivo (which is endlessly customizable), but had some lag issues with it, along with the camera not working. So I tried Cyan Vivo JellyBean (that one), which looks great and works just fine, fast and stable, although it has less features than ViperVivo does. I've had some issues with the camera lately, but maybe i should just try to reflash it.
Anyway, don't hesitate to check that topic as I mentioned in the guide, where you can compare latest updates and ROMs.
To flash, following step 10 just as before should do it !
htcdev.com: Unlocking Bootloader
congratulation for the guide!
i'm following it to root my phone.. but i have a question:
In htcdev.com/bootloader have i to follow all the steps or only some of them?
Because from step 5, it's necessary to install the SDK Manager.exe and and put in folder C:/Android the 3 files
- adb.exe
- AdbWinApi.dll
- fastboot.exe
but in this folder I have already this files, created during the unzipping action as describe in this guide at step 1 // DOWNLOAD AND SET UP EVERYTHING
> Unzip IncS_MVDTKv3.4.1.zip into C:/Android/Downgrade/DowngradeKit - Move everything from the "files" folder to C:/Android
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Okay so, since I'm sort of new, I wanted to ask a few questions:
1. Is it possible to root xperia x8 with manufacturing date 11w48? At least at 95% chance. I'm a bit scared of the bricking part...
2. If it is possible, what kind of "ROM" (if I understood correctly) should I get?
3. If I get hard bricked/soft bricked what's the chance my phone will be still usable.
That's about it. Please don't rage at me for "OMG USE SEARCH BUTTON" type of thing.
I have tried doing it but no results found. Just threads and posts of people updating their.. ROMs I gues? Correct me if I typed anything wrong there.
But yeah, help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Jetboard said:
Okay so, since I'm sort of new, I wanted to ask a few questions:
1. Is it possible to root xperia x8 with manufacturing date 11w48? At least at 95% chance. I'm a bit scared of the bricking part...
2. If it is possible, what kind of "ROM" (if I understood correctly) should I get?
3. If I get hard bricked/soft bricked what's the chance my phone will be still usable.
That's about it. Please don't rage at me for "OMG USE SEARCH BUTTON" type of thing.
I have tried doing it but no results found. Just threads and posts of people updating their.. ROMs I gues? Correct me if I typed anything wrong there.
But yeah, help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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1. You can safely root your x8 regardless of when it is manufactured, you will not brick it
2. You have 11w48 so it is very risky to unlock your bootloader, i suggest you flash ROMS that is for stock
3. If you get soft bricked you can flash the stock firmware back using flashtool or SEUS, if it is a hard brick, you need to go to the nearest Service center or use a JTAG
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Thanks a whole bunch. I thought I cannot root because of my manufacturer date. But what is a flash ROM tho?
Jetboard said:
Thanks a whole bunch. I thought I cannot root because of my manufacturer date. But what is a flash ROM tho?
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you can root your phone. but you can't unlock bl.
when you root your phone, you cam install cwm recovery. simply dl a rom for stock kernel and go to recovery and install(flash) the rom. remember to check the instructions first.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
All what I found until today was that if I cannot unlock BL I cannot install CWM recovery.
Maybe it is related to model - mine is Sony Xperia J. Y2012.
There is no fastboot available.
Am I wrong, can I have CWM, nandroid backup etc on stock ROM as only such one I may flash ?
F308 said:
All what I found until today was that if I cannot unlock BL I cannot install CWM recovery.
Maybe it is related to model - mine is Sony Xperia J. Y2012.
There is no fastboot available.
Am I wrong, can I have CWM, nandroid backup etc on stock ROM as only such one I may flash ?
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this is for x8. not sure how it works on J. but yeah we don't havt fastboot either. but we can install cwm even with a locked bl. again that's for se x8.
edit: my advice is go to your phone's subforum. you'll get your answers there.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
Thank you. I understand that lot of things is device dependent but thought there are non-breakable rules, like gravity,
and what is possible to do under certain circumstances was one of them.
Need walk through XDA forum once more, maybe there is a hope.
F308 said:
Thank you. I understand that lot of things is device dependent but thought there are non-breakable rules, like gravity,
and what is possible to do under certain circumstances was one of them.
Need walk through XDA forum once more, maybe there is a hope.
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there probably are a few unbreakable rules, but not being familiar with your device i can't guarantee that it's safe or it would work.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
Despite lot of reading I still am missing knowledge.
Question is:
What is fastboot ?
I found more than one definition of it and compiled into my own.
1.
Of course fastboot.exe is Windows binary (part of flashtool pack) which does certain type of work.
This is not what we are interested in.
2.
I concluded that:
- fastboot is one of modes into what android device can wake up. Just like linux can boot in different ways or Windows into single mode.
- this feature is encoded into boot.img, it is not separate android application.
- boot.img will work only with related kernel.img. They are like love and marriage (which is like horse and carriage - Bundy's).
- Sony sometimes disables stock boot.img to boot into this mode then without replacing boot .img it is impossible.
More comments ?
Fastboot is protocol used to update the flash filesystem in Android devices from a host over USB. It allows flashing of unsigned partition images.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
Okay, I got one more last question. Is this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906195&nocache=1 okay to use for rooting? I'm still trying to find the LATEST safe ones =/ I wonder if this one is okay.
Um, I tried that one it didn't work. It said some stuff are missing, then it exited randomly etc.. Can someone give me a link or a short/long guide which I can use that's latest? I do have some X8 drivers in a .zip file but no idea how to install them. Thanks in advance.
Jetboard said:
Okay, I got one more last question. Is this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906195&nocache=1 okay to use for rooting? I'm still trying to find the LATEST safe ones =/ I wonder if this one is good.
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I rooted mine with this
Means its safe
Sent from my X8
Having few issues with the SuperOneClick thing... It sometimes randomly exits, tells me that some stuff are missing etc. Any help? =/
I'm new to android.I'm quite confused about the whole custom Rom installation process.I managed to unlock bootloader and root my phone.I tried to find guides to let me install custom roms on my device.I have a vague idea about the whole process but whenever I look at a ROM release thread, half the information there is beyond me.I would be happy if someone pointed me in the right direction to a complete guide with noob friendly instructions.Also, I would prefer to stay S-On, can someone help me with the whole s-off regarding custom Rom stuff too?
Thanks.
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Nanda K said:
I'm new to android.I'm quite confused about the whole custom Rom installation process.I managed to unlock bootloader and root my phone.I tried to find guides to let me install custom roms on my device.I have a vague idea about the whole process but whenever I look at a ROM release thread, half the information there is beyond me.I would be happy if someone pointed me in the right direction to a complete guide with noob friendly instructions.Also, I would prefer to stay S-On, can someone help me with the whole s-off regarding custom Rom stuff too?
Thanks.
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You don't need s-off to flash most custom roms. Only some GPE version will require s-off.
Flash twrp 2.8.5.0
boot your phone in recovery mode
plug your phone to your pc
place your rom.zip on your phone storage
in twrp select "install"
choose your rom.zip
swipe to flash
Follow instructions from the rom installer (aroma installer)
reboot
Nanda K said:
I'm new to android.I'm quite confused about the whole custom Rom installation process.I managed to unlock bootloader and root my phone.I tried to find guides to let me install custom roms on my device.I have a vague idea about the whole process but whenever I look at a ROM release thread, half the information there is beyond me.I would be happy if someone pointed me in the right direction to a complete guide with noob friendly instructions.Also, I would prefer to stay S-On, can someone help me with the whole s-off regarding custom Rom stuff too?
Thanks.
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Ill be honest. Doing things like this are not meant to be noob friendly.
Take about a week and do lots of reading this way if something goes wrong you will know how to recover.
That's what I'm having trouble with.I cant seem to find any solid reading material for stuff like these.For example, will restoring a nandroid backup really fix problems like bootloops and other errors you may run into while flashing ROMS? Also,how do kernels and ROMs match up? are they independent of each other or do certain ROMs work only when you have a particular kernel installed? will a wrong kernel cause any issues with certain ROMs and I'm seriously scared of bricking my device since the amount you're required to know is quite vast.I used to have an iPhone until the HTC One M7 and I was pretty much an advanced user on the iOS platform.I wouldnt call myself a noob, but I cant call myself an advanced android user either.Atleast not yet.
Nanda K said:
That's what I'm having trouble with.I cant seem to find any solid reading material for stuff like these.For example, will restoring a nandroid backup really fix problems like bootloops and other errors you may run into while flashing ROMS? Also,how do kernels and ROMs match up? are they independent of each other or do certain ROMs work only when you have a particular kernel installed? will a wrong kernel cause any issues with certain ROMs and I'm seriously scared of bricking my device since the amount you're required to know is quite vast.I used to have an iPhone until the HTC One M7 and I was pretty much an advanced user on the iOS platform.I wouldnt call myself a noob, but I cant call myself an advanced android user either.Atleast not yet.
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Wow yeah you need to do alot of reading then. Now while I mean no insult. Being an advanced user for IOS and jumping to android is like going from first grade and then jumping to the 12th.
Yes depending on the device kernels only work with matching roms. Take the m7 you mentioned. You have 4 kind of kernels. AOSP, AOSP-Caf, Sense and CM
Each has to be paired with a matching rom. IF you flash the wrong one then it can cause a bootloop. Never expect a nandroid to be a fix all. While it will fix things alot of the time it is not an end all to fixing a bad flash. Sometimes you will have to flash things with a bootloader from command line. Depending on your OS on your PC there could also be other issues. So at times you may need a linux based live disc or partition.
Nanda K said:
That's what I'm having trouble with.I cant seem to find any solid reading material for stuff like these.For example, will restoring a nandroid backup really fix problems like bootloops and other errors you may run into while flashing ROMS? Also,how do kernels and ROMs match up? are they independent of each other or do certain ROMs work only when you have a particular kernel installed? will a wrong kernel cause any issues with certain ROMs and I'm seriously scared of bricking my device since the amount you're required to know is quite vast.I used to have an iPhone until the HTC One M7 and I was pretty much an advanced user on the iOS platform.I wouldnt call myself a noob, but I cant call myself an advanced android user either.Atleast not yet.
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Your in safe hands with this forum....theres not nuch that cannot be solved if you go wrong,however there are a multitude of good videos on you tube .
I found this guys videos very easy to follow https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKlOmM_eB0nzTNiDFZibSSA
A little out of date now but a good image of what to do,backed up with the knowledge base on this forum its relatively easy!
Once you have a custom recovery make back ups before you do anything,I found buying an OTG cable and USB drive a good way to create lots of back ups ,so if things go wrong you have a good restore point.
Unlikely to brick your device if you keep S-on ,build up your confidence and go S-off when you can...its like xmas everyday once you know how to use the power it brings!
Okay,let me start off simple.My HTC One M7 is on complete stock now.Running Lollipop from HTC.It is an unlocked Hong Kong version.Bootloader unlocked and TWRP recovery flashed.I need a kernel which will enable motion launch gestures as on the one m8 and also functions like sweep2wake etc.Can someone link me to the appropriate kernel to flash?
I know how to flash the kernel, I have trouble choosing the right one.
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Nanda K said:
Okay,let me start off simple.My HTC One M7 is on complete stock now.Running Lollipop from HTC.It is an unlocked Hong Kong version.Bootloader unlocked and TWRP recovery flashed.I need a kernel which will enable motion launch gestures as on the one m8 and also functions like sweep2wake etc.Can someone link me to the appropriate kernel to flash?
I know how to flash the kernel, I have trouble choosing the right one.
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If you are running stock rom (sense 6) + lollipop and your phone is a M7_UL or M7_U then ElementalX 20.1 should work fine
From one noob to another haha
I really like ViperOne mods, but I haven't used Elements.
alray nailed it -- easiest ROM install.
you need to install TWRP first.
I used the HTC One Toolkit for this, you can find it on XDA. (Sorry new user, I can't post links)
I assume your phone is still unlocked. -- if not, unlock it
Have Debug mode Enabled on your phone. (Settings -> About -> Software information -> More -> Click Build number 10 times)
Settings -> Developer options -> USB Debugging -> Checked
Using HTC One Toolkit, click ADB -> Devices
this will start adb. you might wait a second or 5 for your device to be shown.
Then click the Pull down reboot menu select bootloader, then click Reboot.
-the phone should reboot into the Bootloader.
Select Fastboot, press power button.
Then in HTC One Toolkit, close the adb window and click Fastboot.
Click Devices
-Your device should show in the main HTC One Toolkit window.
Once you see that, Under Label Flash, press ... button and select the TWRP you just downloaded. Then select Partition Recovery, then Flash.
Once complete and successful, reboot the phone into Recovery from the phone's menu.
!! NOTE !! You must reboot into Recovery before starting the ROM. Or it may re-write the Recovery.
Once in Recovery, reboot the phone from within Recovery and let it start normally.
Copy your rom (in .zip format) onto your phone. I make new folder called roms or mods on my phones so I don't lose track of where things are.
Once your Rom is copied to your phone (I suggest ViperOne 8.0.0.0), use ADB again and reboot the phone into recovery.
From TWRP Touch Install
navigate to your folder where your ROM is (zip file)
Click it and install.
I wipe all settings when I install a new ROM.
Good luck!
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_FBi said:
I used the HTC One Toolkit for this, you can find it on XDA. (Sorry new user, I can't post links)
Using HTC One Toolkit, click ADB -> Devices
Then in HTC One Toolkit
-Your device should show in the main HTC One Toolkit window.
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And I would highly recommend not using any toolkits but instead take an extra 30 mins to learn how to use adb and fastboot properly so if something bad happens you know how to deal with it.
Most noobs are totally stuck if something is not working as expected when using a toolkit. Wen you took the time learning adb and fastboot you'll know how to deal with most issues when flashing roms/recovery/ruu/frimware/kernel/radio and more. When you did not took any time to learn adb and fastboot and using a toolkit instead, when something unexpected happen, you'll just be stuck there because your little toolkit doesn't have any "I'm screwed, what should I do?" button.
alray said:
And I would highly recommend not using any toolkits but instead take an extra 30 mins to learn how to use adb and fastboot properly so if something bad happens you know how to deal with it.
Most noobs are totally stuck if something is not working as expected when using a toolkit. Wen you took the time learning adb and fastboot you'll know how to deal with most issues when flashing roms/recovery/ruu/frimware/kernel/radio and more. When you did not took any time to learn adb and fastboot and using a toolkit instead, when something unexpected happen, you'll just be stuck there because your little toolkit doesn't have any "I'm screwed, what should I do?" button.
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I have nothing against using using tools, so long as they're trusted.
Nor is there anything wrong doing it by hand, if not more beneficial.
All in one tools bypass a lot of the understanding.
Alray's first post was right to the point, basic, and a perfect example.
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I do know how to use adb and command line to do all that.Intact I did not know that there was a toolkit to do this before I read that post
I do have some experience with the HTC wildfire and sensation XL.But they were considerably older devices which I used a long time ago as temporary ones.
The HTC One is my first non iOS device.
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hey guys, Just trying to get my bearings on where to start. A friend game me a HTC Desire 510 that was not loading for him. Just sticking on the HTC loading screen.
He managed to "unlock" it. Not sure if it has root access.
In anycase it will not loal anymore, stuck on HTC load screen. I followed a few threads and tried to reset/restore things but now it looks like i need to just reinstall the OS.
Where I am lost is where/can i get the stock OS for this phone?
If not , do i need to get root access, load in a bootloader and then load in a custom ROM?
last time I did all this before was 2 years ago on a Samsung so I am a little rusty on the steps.
details
HTC Desire 510 - europe (Irish)
HBOOT - 3.19.0.0000
Radio 01.02.012
When I load up the bootloader I have "Sofrware status: Officaial *** at the tope and UNLOCKED under that.
Cheers
check the htc website for the latest rom(update) also this thread is sprint/virgin/boost
http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/development/virgin-sprint-htc-desire-510-stock-t2961521
cricket stock rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/help/stock-rom-cricket-htc-desire-510-t3161697
id see if the htc site works first but thats just me.
hope i was of help to you with your issues if not wait for more experanced members to assist.
roymcd said:
hey guys, Just trying to get my bearings on where to start. A friend game me a HTC Desire 510 that was not loading for him. Just sticking on the HTC loading screen.
He managed to "unlock" it. Not sure if it has root access.
In anycase it will not loal anymore, stuck on HTC load screen. I followed a few threads and tried to reset/restore things but now it looks like i need to just reinstall the OS.
Where I am lost is where/can i get the stock OS for this phone?
If not , do i need to get root access, load in a bootloader and then load in a custom ROM?
last time I did all this before was 2 years ago on a Samsung so I am a little rusty on the steps.
details
HTC Desire 510 - europe (Irish)
HBOOT - 3.19.0.0000
Radio 01.02.012
When I load up the bootloader I have "Sofrware status: Officaial *** at the tope and UNLOCKED under that.
Cheers
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Are you in Europe? If you are that's most likely a 64 bit phone and you'll need Philz Touch Recovery unless you have one installed. You'll also need to find a 64 bit stock HTC desire 510 rom.. It should work after installing them.
Edit: The HTC websites rom updater will not work since the phones boot is unlocked.. Just try what I said above.
Yes I am in Europe.
Will give what suggested a go and let you know..
cheers
here is your man for the job
ok mthis has happen to me before alright take the sdcard out reboot to fastboot relocok bootloader by typing 'fastboot oem relock' get the ruu for your phone then it will help you if you find this helpful hit the thank you button
bcbradley12 said:
ok mthis has happen to me before alright take the sdcard out reboot to fastboot relocok bootloader by typing 'fastboot oem relock' get the ruu for your phone then it will help you if you find this helpful hit the thank you button
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It's actually fastboot oem lock
bcbradley12 said:
ok mthis has happen to me before alright take the sdcard out reboot to fastboot relocok bootloader by typing 'fastboot oem relock' get the ruu for your phone then it will help you if you find this helpful hit the thank you button
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MrMike2182 said:
Are you in Europe? If you are that's most likely a 64 bit phone and you'll need Philz Touch Recovery unless you have one installed. You'll also need to find a 64 bit stock HTC desire 510 rom.. It should work after installing them.
Edit: The HTC websites rom updater will not work since the phones boot is unlocked.. Just try what I said above.
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Ok guys , getting around to trying this now but running into some small problems.
Question 1
I have installed adb.exe and it does work with my main phone (HTC m8) but when i plug in the broken phone it does not pick up that phone (when i do a ">adb.exe devices") I saw some comments saying that I need to enable debug mode but how can I do that when i cannot even load the phone up ?
Question 2
I would like to install this Philz Touch Recovery , so i can installed the new RUU but I see on some sites that I need to install ClockworkMod first. Now I am not sure if this is needed or not but i still have the problem of being unable to install it from the bootloader screen. There is no option to install from zip? So this might sound like a real n00b question but how can install anything to my phone when all i have it the bootloader screen. My options when i boot up are . . .
Fastboot
-->HBOOT
-->RAMDUMP
-->REBOOT
-->REBOOT fastboot
-->power down
recovery
factory reset
simlock
check smartSD
image CRC show barcode.
Review. . .
I would think my issue is with the broken phones connecting to my laptop and the use of adb.exe. If I could get that working i can use adb.exe to installl clockworkmod and from that I can boot up the phone and install Philz Touch Recovery, and then using phils installer I can install the original 64bit Rom and be in business?
does that seem right?
Cheers
roymcd said:
Ok guys , getting around to trying this now but running into some small problems.
Question 1
I have installed adb.exe and it does work with my main phone (HTC m8) but when i plug in the broken phone it does not pick up that phone (when i do a ">adb.exe devices") I saw some comments saying that I need to enable debug mode but how can I do that when i cannot even load the phone up ?
Question 2
I would like to install this Philz Touch Recovery , so i can installed the new RUU but I see on some sites that I need to install ClockworkMod first. Now I am not sure if this is needed or not but i still have the problem of being unable to install it from the bootloader screen. There is no option to install from zip? So this might sound like a real n00b question but how can install anything to my phone when all i have it the bootloader screen. My options when i boot up are . . .
Fastboot
-->HBOOT
-->RAMDUMP
-->REBOOT
-->REBOOT fastboot
-->power down
recovery
factory reset
simlock
check smartSD
image CRC show barcode.
Review. . .
I would think my issue is with the broken phones connecting to my laptop and the use of adb.exe. If I could get that working i can use adb.exe to installl clockworkmod and from that I can boot up the phone and install Philz Touch Recovery, and then using phils installer I can install the original 64bit Rom and be in business?
does that seem right?
Cheers
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Never mind if figured it out. .
roymcd said:
Never mind if figured it out. .
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Nice to see you figured it out!
MrMike2182 said:
Nice to see you figured it out!
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Well now that you say that. I am having a strange issue. The phone will boot but only when I select "recovery" mode from the bootloader?
I presume what I have done is flashed the wrong image to the wrong section. I think i need to to flash something to boot and not to recovery when I was running the "fastboot flash recovery image.img!"
ideas?
roymcd said:
Well now that you say that. I am having a strange issue. The phone will boot but only when I select "recovery" mode from the bootloader?
I presume what I have done is flashed the wrong image to the wrong section. I think i need to to flash something to boot and not to recovery when I was running the "fastboot flash recovery image.img!"
ideas?
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I don't get what you're trying to do. If you wanna get back up and running, all you have to do is relock the bootloader and run the RUU... That's it. Your recovery doesn't matter. You don't need a custom recovery for that. Any custom recovery you have will be replaced by the stock one when you run the RUU.
I haven't been on this forum much lately, (so please correct me if I'm wrong, somebody) but from what I remember, the only custom recovery available for the 64-bit variant 510 is Philz. If that's the case then you shouldn't be flashing CWM
Surj138 said:
I don't get what you're trying to do. If you wanna get back up and running, all you have to do is relock the bootloader and run the RUU... That's it. Your recovery doesn't matter. You don't need a custom recovery for that. Any custom recovery you have will be replaced by the stock one when you run the RUU.
I haven't been on this forum much lately, (so please correct me if I'm wrong, somebody) but from what I remember, the only custom recovery available for the 64-bit variant 510 is Philz. If that's the case then you shouldn't be flashing CWM
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Yes you seem to be correct . I locked the bootloader and then used the command "fastboot flash boot <htc_orginal_ruu>" and it started working again.
I had lots of issues trying to get the CWM installed . It was someone else on this thread that suggested that but I think that info was wrong.
And just to conform for others that may read this someday you do not need Phils recover if you want to get the original system running. if you want to install custom ROMs then you need it then.
Thanks for the input. Half the time its just good to write out your problem so you can understand.
roymcd said:
Yes you seem to be correct . I locked the bootloader and then used the command "fastboot flash boot <htc_orginal_ruu>" and it started working again.
I had lots of issues trying to get the CWM installed . It was someone else on this thread that suggested that but I think that info was wrong.
And just to conform for others that may read this someday you do not need Phils recover if you want to get the original system running. if you want to install custom ROMs then you need it then.
Thanks for the input. Half the time its just good to write out your problem so you can understand.
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I did say you needed philz touch recovery if you have a 64 bit phone and you never really answered the 64 bit question and I asked because you said you are in Europe (Irish) and if you do have a 64 bit phone then you do need philz if you want to use other roms like the rest (most) of us on here do.
MrMike2182 said:
I did say you needed philz touch recovery if you have a 64 bit phone and you never really answered the 64 bit question and I asked because you said you are in Europe (Irish) and if you do have a 64 bit phone then you do need philz if you want to use other roms like the rest (most) of us on here do.
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Yeah it was a 64bit phone.
I wanted the original OS back on the phone so that is why i did not need phils tool.
roymcd said:
Yeah it was a 64bit phone.
I wanted the original OS back on the phone so that is why i did not need phils tool.
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I kinda figured all that out on my own already but why do you just want stock? Why don't you want a rooted phone so you can do a lot more with it?
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roymcd said:
Yes you seem to be correct . I locked the bootloader and then used the command "fastboot flash boot <htc_orginal_ruu>" and it started working again.
I had lots of issues trying to get the CWM installed . It was someone else on this thread that suggested that but I think that info was wrong.
And just to conform for others that may read this someday you do not need Phils recover if you want to get the original system running. if you want to install custom ROMs then you need it then.
Thanks for the input. Half the time its just good to write out your problem so you can understand.
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I've read through this entire thread more than 3 times and I never once seen anyone in this thread tell you to run CWM(ClockWorkMod).. or to even use that so where did get that idea from... The only thing I suggested was Philz Touch Recovery as did @Surj138 for a good reason cause it's the only one that's 64 bit for your phone!
MrMike2182 said:
I kinda figured all that out on my own already but why do you just want stock? Why don't you want a rooted phone so you can do a lot more with it?
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I've read through this entire thread more than 3 times and I never once seen anyone in this thread tell you to run CWM(ClockWorkMod).. or to even use that so where did get that idea from... The only thing I suggested was Philz Touch Recovery as did @Surj138 for a good reason cause it's the only one that's 64 bit for your phone!
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It was from other threads that I read to install Phils recovery I would need install CWM but I think now that is for other phones. I said it was in this thread by mistake.
As for going for the original ROM as opposed to a custom ROM my reasoning is three fold. . . .
1. This phone will not be staying with me. Will be giving it back to my friend who is giving it to his daughter. She is would have no use for a root phone.
2. The last time I was using custom ROM was with my Samsung S2 about 3 years ago. I did like all the extra features, free apps and full customization that you can do with it but I did find that no matter what custom ROM I found there would be little problems with each one. Performance would slowly drop the more i switched around the custom ROMS.
3. Custom ROMs are great and all but we cannot be 100% sure there is not hidden male-ware in some of them that is robbing my data. It was going to be a spare phone for playing games then i would not mind but to give to someone as there main phone is not the best option.
roymcd said:
It was from other threads that I read to install Phils recovery I would need install CWM but I think now that is for other phones. I said it was in this thread by mistake.
As for going for the original ROM as opposed to a custom ROM my reasoning is three fold. . . .
1. This phone will not be staying with me. Will be giving it back to my friend who is giving it to his daughter. She is would have no use for a root phone.
2. The last time I was using custom ROM was with my Samsung S2 about 3 years ago. I did like all the extra features, free apps and full customization that you can do with it but I did find that no matter what custom ROM I found there would be little problems with each one. Performance would slowly drop the more i switched around the custom ROMS.
3. Custom ROMs are great and all but we cannot be 100% sure there is not hidden male-ware in some of them that is robbing my data. It was going to be a spare phone for playing games then i would not mind but to give to someone as there main phone is not the best option.
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Understood sir!!