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For everyone that havent noticed yet, theres a new app on the market that allows ZOOM on the G1 Camera, now we are only missing a FLASH so we can get great quality pics on night.
What is the name of the app?
BSDADON said:
What is the name of the app?
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CamaraZoom
That's the easy way to find it via search on the market... and cost .99 euro?
You do know that this is digital zoom and not optical zoom, right? You're basically getting a cropped picture. You may as well just take the picture click the zoom button on your viewer...
What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?
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What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?
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Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
Now, if you really want a zoom, get one of these babies. I got it on e-bay for $13 including shipping and it's the real deal. Plus, you look like a total ubercooldork when you pull it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508175
Ill be happier when they come out with the S60 ability to do "Night Mode" which gave me GREAT pictures in nighttime and so without the flash.
At max zoom you are getting the equivalent of a .5MP photo which means you have an image that is 2048x1526 pixels large and only have 500,000 pixels to fill it. Add to that the fact that the autofocus cant figure out what to do to obtain a decent image and you end up with pictures that are more grainy than the Sahara Desert. This is why I havent added it to snapPhoto. If you want crappy pictures then simply take the image and zoom it with some other app.
Now Flash. You do realise that flash is a hardware thing right? And you do realise that you cant code hardware into something that doesnt have it. I would have thought that was a basic concept but here we are 9 months after launch and people still cant figure that out.
As far as nightmode - on snapphoto it does work, but it cant make light where there is none so if you expect it to make a shot taken in very dark areas to suddenly be like a shot taken in full daylight - think again. All nightmode does is leave the shutter open longer in an attempt to get more light exposure. As a result of this any movement will lead to much blurrier pics.
If you want an example of what can be achieved by someone who takes a little time to play with the settings in my app check out .
http://thecrayonbox.org/files/nightbeach.jpg
Taken with snapphotopro.
Nice with snapphoto. I may try that for the G1. However the Nokia S60 phones have a great night mode. Ive taken alot of pictures with low light and it performed better then my optical digital camera. This was with a Nokia 3650 which isnt even a MP phone (My 2 MP camera was dark photos only)
This was taken at a amusement park on top of the "Eifel Tower" at the twilight night time.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(42).jpg
I did a comparison that night between the 2 modes.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(43).jpg
Yea it added a green tint, but for when I travel out now, I use my phone all the time. =) (Granted did upgraded to a higher caliber S60 MP camera phone lol)
nolageek said:
Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
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i LOLed.
This is a seriously cool camera.
I know its digital zoom but really helps for composition and saves the hassle of cropping later on (say if I take 10 zoomed pictures).
I love Snap Photo too, but Camera ZOOM is the new camera for me - seems a lot of people like it - already top 25 app!
Customisable skins, animations, easy to use and fast ... would definitely recommend.
Well, i found this information VERY interesting:
http://www.androidauthority.com/new-android-camera-api-317878/
Google is working on a new camera API that will bring new features and possibly improved image quality to Android devices, including the Nexus line.
Many reviewers have panned the camera experience on the Nexus 5 as inconsistent and mediocre, with some going as far as to call the product unfinished. Google acknowledged the problems and said that a software update could alleviate some of them. Indeed, code discovered in the publicly available Android source code suggests that a new Camera API is in the works that could improve image quality and give access to new features.
Android developer Josh Brown first spotted the code, and Ron Amadeo of Ars Technica broke the news. According to the dates on the commits in the code repository, the API was in the works for about 10 months, but Google didn’t finish it in time for the KitKat release, which shipped with the old API.
Here’s a summary of what may be coming to the Android camera experience once the new API is implemented:
Support for Camera RAW format – RAW is a format that preserves most of the information captured by the camera sensor, allowing for more in-depth editing, either on the device (e.g. with Snapseed) or on a PC with software like Photoshop. JPEG and other similar formats, in contrast, are compressed for smaller size, and a lot of the original info is lost in the process.
Face detection – the API will allow camera apps to detect the faces of people in the frame, and assign each face an ID for manipulation purposes. This is a feature that many Android manufacturers have implemented on their own, but the new API will make it available in stock Android.
Burst mode – another feature present on popular devices from Samsung, HTC, and others is burst mode – keeping the shutter button pressed will take a series of shots in quick succession. This feature will go very well with the new photo enhancement capabilities of Google Plus.
Support for removable cameras – possibly something similar to Sony’s QX10 and QX100 Wi-Fi cameras.
General “improved capabilities” and “fine grain control” that may (we hope) bring improvements to image quality.
It seems that the new Camera API was in an advanced stage of development when Google decided to cut it out of KitKat. A last moment change of plans could explain why the Nexus 5’s camera feels a bit unfinished. When the new API lands, it will be backwards compatible, but for now we can only guess when we will see the update.
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AS fas as I know, to support RAW mode not only the app, but also the camera driver should support RAW mode... Do you think possible to have RAW in our Nexus? It would be awesome!
Yes RAW would be a fantastic feature, but I'll be happy just to see a focus enhancement and a better interface, more user friendly.
I don't care about raw on phone, but this seems to confirm that a software solution may be coming.
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I guess we have to wait for the nexus 7 launch..... I highly doubt a completely revamped camera is coming out any time soon especially after the kit Kat launch.
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Isn't raw a huge file size? Correct me if I'm wrong.
davwman said:
Isn't raw a huge file size? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yeah it is. I highly doubt I would go and edit raw files with paint shop pro coming from my N5.
Please Read Comment 675
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471900&page=68
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I could be mistaken but I think Google finally separated the Gallery from the Camera apk in Kit-Kat. This might imply Google is planning on updating the camera app in the Play Store. I really hope they do something soon because the camera app is pretty terrible.
I'll start giving a rat's ass about RAW once they fix the shutter lag...
I agree with most of you. I just want shutter and focus lag out of the way, then we can talk save formats. :good:
i can see it now
"why are all my photos so full of noise when i shoot in raw?"
Bad, bad idea on a phone.
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Dragooon123 said:
I'll start giving a rat's ass about RAW once they fix the shutter lag...
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If you let the phone get an exposure and focus lock you will see the photo is taken instantly, there is no shutter lag.
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If you let the phone get an exposure and focus lock you will see the photo is taken instantly, there is no shutter lag.
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True - but for the end user, the result is the same - miss the shot while the phone gets the exposure lock and focus lock, followed by instant shutter.
In bright daylight, it should not take that long to get exposure/focus lock/etc. Camera should be able to determine the subject, focus on it, lock exposure right after the user starts the camera app and points at the subject, and grab the picture as soon as the user clicks the shutter button.
Almost all cameras on other smartphones can do this, so no reason why N5 can't do this
Its beyond idiotic to be adding features to a camera app that sucks at the simple task of taking a photo. Adding raw support should come WAY after the camera app can focus quickly, correctly expose an image and has a usable simple interface. After that is mastered, then simple basic features should be added like burst mode and slo mo video. Only then should RAW support be even thought about. What good is RAW support when the camera can't correctly focus and expose images and the interface is wonky and annoying to use and the preview image is an interpolated mess?
Jishnu Sur™ said:
Please Read Comment 675
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471900&page=68
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Excellent for G2, but what for N5? Are you working on it? (both 100% JPG Quality and 60fps woul be extellent!)
Yakandu said:
Excellent for G2, but what for N5? Are you working on it? (both 100% JPG Quality and 60fps woul be extellent!)
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100% jpg is billions milles away from raw floating point format like *.hdr, *. exr...
And for those that claim that raw is useless, then they must simply don't catch what's raw offers.
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100% jpg is billions milles away from raw floating point format like *.hdr, *. exr...
And for those that claim that raw is useless, then they must simply don't catch what's raw offers.
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I totally agree
Jishnu Sur™ said:
Please Read Comment 675
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471900&page=68
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thanks for your work.. but please add an advice, for flashaholic like me, to read thread title.. cause flashing a G2 camera app does bootloop on a N5...
how noob I feel now...
I for one am extremely happy about the idea of RAW shooting. Would love to see it on the Nexus 5.
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bleuxeon said:
100% jpg is billions milles away from raw floating point format like *.hdr, *. exr...
And for those that claim that raw is useless, then they must simply don't catch what's raw offers.
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Considering that XDA is about 90% noobs asking stupid questions, RAW wont be a big deal to most people out there
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...XDA is about 90% noobs asking stupid questions...
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Hi,
I currently have a Galaxy S2 and am looking to upgrade.
The video camera is a prime reason for the upgrade. Ideally I want something that can record HDR video with optical image stabilisation. Lots of my video is taken handheld in low(ish), high contrast light so I figure both of these features are important. I was hoping to see HDR + OIS in the HTC One M8 announcement, but that didn't happen.
I'd be interested to know a couple of things:
1. How good is the HDR video recording feature? I've struggled to see many reviews/opinions.
2. How good is the OIS?
3. If you were about to upgrade now and had video as a priority, would you think about the HTC One?
I don't know of any other phones that have both HDR video and OIS. My alternative would be to get another camera with OIS - I think on balance this is more important than HDR video. I suppose I could also get HDR video and have either in-phone software stabalisation, or use a PC application to give me the stabalisation.
Cost isn't a massive factor, but I don't see a real "value proposition" I'm thinking of going for a Nexus 5 or LG G2. Although video is important, obviously having a nice fast phone that will last is also appealing, so I've not totally written off the idea a current gen phone I can get in the next month or so.
Any advice on models would be appreciated.
Thanks
Jiffage said:
Hi,
I currently have a Galaxy S2 and am looking to upgrade.
The video camera is a prime reason for the upgrade. Ideally I want something that can record HDR video with optical image stabilisation. Lots of my video is taken handheld in low(ish), high contrast light so I figure both of these features are important. I was hoping to see HDR + OIS in the HTC One M8 announcement, but that didn't happen.
I'd be interested to know a couple of things:
1. How good is the HDR video recording feature? I've struggled to see many reviews/opinions.
2. How good is the OIS?
3. If you were about to upgrade now and had video as a priority, would you think about the HTC One?
I don't know of any other phones that have both HDR video and OIS. My alternative would be to get another camera with OIS - I think on balance this is more important than HDR video. I suppose I could also get HDR video and have either in-phone software stabalisation, or use a PC application to give me the stabalisation.
Cost isn't a massive factor, but I don't see a real "value proposition" I'm thinking of going for a Nexus 5 or LG G2. Although video is important, obviously having a nice fast phone that will last is also appealing, so I've not totally written off the idea a current gen phone I can get in the next month or so.
Any advice on models would be appreciated.
Thanks
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I'm far from a video recording expert, but i have used my One for over a year and recorded my first video last week.
It was a stand-up comedian, so it was a hard motive.
Everything around the man on stage was black and with a bright spotlight on the performer.
Started recording with standard setting, and it was hard to find focus when everthing was black or superbright.
Then I switched to HDR recording and got a lot better video with stable focus, with the downside that the black background was more grey. But what the heck, it was better and I can see my motive
What impressed med most was the audio quality of the recordings, really awesome!
Hope this helps you somehow.
Can someone help me understand the drama with the Sony camera? Is the image not really 20mp because it downsizes it? Can that be turned off? I don't want to use third party programs to mess with the pictures. Just trying to prep for how I can get the best images.
I guess a specific question is can you set it to auto and at 8mp to gain access to other settings etc? What is downside of this?
There's really no drama...just people that don't understand what Oversampling is and start voicing their displeasure online.
Images are captured at 20MP, and then re-sized to 8MP with 20MP worth of information. This allows benefits like lossless digital zoom, more details, noise reduction, smaller file sizes, etc.
This technology isn't new to smartphones, as it's been used in the Nokia Lumia 808 PureView since 2012, but it is fairly new to the Android world. People don't understand it and just complain that it only shoots 8MP photos (not realizing that 8MP is more than 97% of the users need anyways)
You can read all about Oversampling here:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/flow/item/19759_The_science_behind_PureView_ov.php
here's a quote that pretty much sums up the entire article if you don't feel like reading the entire thing:
(Keep in mind it says 5MP, because that's what the 808 resizes to. The Z3 resizes to 8MP)
In plain English then, by using a system with far more raw image information than is needed, above the Nyquist frequency, 5MP images can be obtained with almost zero noise and zero aliasing - hence PureView.
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To answer your second question: If you want a 20MP photo, you'll have to set your camera app to "manual mode".
Thanks. I really have no need for 20mp, to your point.
What do you think is the beat camera app for the nexus 6??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2917061
What's your favorite Camera App(s)?
how many times has this question been asked? and how many threads on this are there? did you bother to search?
snap camera seems the fastest... not sure on the quality of the HDR
#notaphotoexpert
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What do you think is the beat camera app for the nexus 6??
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For the N6? Manual Camera! Lovin this app! It's still a work in progress, but it is a very cool app.
Manual Camera
Other articles on the app:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/1...ext-purchase-if-you-own-a-nexus-5-or-nexus-6/
http://androidcommunity.com/manual-camera-brings-dslr-experience-to-your-android-phone-20150116/
http://www.androidauthority.com/manual-camera-control-picture-580907/
I switched from Manual camera to Camera FV-5, which also uses the new APIs (so it can output DNG). It is a lot more polished and stable than Manual Camera.
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For the N6? Manual Camera! Lovin this app! It's still a work in progress, but it is a very cool app.
Manual Camera
Other articles on the app:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/1...ext-purchase-if-you-own-a-nexus-5-or-nexus-6/
http://androidcommunity.com/manual-camera-brings-dslr-experience-to-your-android-phone-20150116/
http://www.androidauthority.com/manual-camera-control-picture-580907/
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Manual camera capture in 4:3 and you cant change quality and HDR seems very broken or non functional.
Very slow shutter rate, aosp and google camera is so much faster, Manual Camara not worth it at all.
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Manual camera capture in 4:3 and you cant change quality and HDR seems very broken or non functional.
Very slow shutter rate, aosp and google camera is so much faster, Manual Camara not worth it at all.
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It seems you have missed the idea of the app. It's called MANUAL CAMERA!
You don't change "quality" settings. You don't have HDR mode. Those are AUTOMATIC modes. This is a MANUAL application that allows you to adjust MANUAL settings like ISO, Shutter Speed, Over/Under exposure, white balance, etc. If you want all the "programmed" or "automatic" settings that come in the camera app, then use the camera app!
And if your shutter rate is slow, it's because you have a SLOW SHUTTER SPEED selected!!!!
Complaining about an app that is doing what it's supposed to do, is epitome if stupidity!
ARGH!!!!!!!
FireFly3k said:
The app works perfectly fine on my Nexus 6 and I really like the manual options. Too bad it's not possible to edit the raw images on the phone yet.
And the low fps isn't a problem on a phone for me because the auto focus isn't that fast anyway.
A timer for timelapse photos could be a nice feature.
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Edit RAW with Photo Mate R2 in PlayStore.
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Manual Camera was updated to v2.1 today, and it is now showing as incompatible on the N6. Anyone else seeing this?
seem problem incompatible N6
Edit : the fix should be available for download in an hour or two in play store
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i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
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i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
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Google kinda dropped the ball on it. Hopefully it will be functionality added in at some point.
core issues with N6 video before slo-mo can happen
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i have a noob Q, why is it until now there is no app for Android for slo-mo? or like funny faces camera with voice changer like in the iOS, is it from android itself or the hardware or the developers ?
because i see the apps for iOS and i just wonder just WHY !
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My sense is there are some very serious issue preventing slo-mo. That is, slo-mo you want to share because it would be close to garbage as it stands.
I shoot video frequently and was very unhappy when I got my N6.
- signal to noise (S/N) is not good on this device at this stage of the game. It simply is noisy, and it is correctable in software. Until then, slo-mo will be very nasty if anyone is brave enough to try to encode it.
- exposure compensation in video mode is poor - if you shoot a video of a person sitting in front of a blank wall (or a sky) and slowly pan up and down - you can see the exposure compensation "clicking" in stairstep manner as the device adjusts to brightness changes. It needs to be silky smooth or video looks like crap. It can be corrected in software.
- you can workaround the exposure issue by using a third party app which locks exposure compensation - but shooting video with locked exposure compensation is not a good solution.
my opinions.
@warriorpluto I couldn't agree more...I was hoping that there be at least a working port of maybe lenovo, sense 6 camera,z2 or z3 camera...maybe when more devices get lollipop well be able to enjoy the nexus camera...but I suppose for now the google camera shall do for now lol smh
Z camera is good enough. The only one u can take picture wit no lag. But no HDR .
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Manual Camera
Geko-x said:
What do you think is the beat camera app for the nexus 6??
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Manual Camera just came out a few weeks ago, but it's by far been the best for me (a camera junkie).
It's best used if you're used to the settings on a DSLR, but has an awesome auto setting and the fastest auto-focus i've seen yet on the N6.
So is the best camera app "Camera FV-5" with Cinema FV-5?
Just cleaned up in here. You guys can take the political debate to a different forum, please. I have absolutely no idea why this subject got brought up in camera thread (actually I do, but I'll deal with the certain member(s))......on a development site.
No need to discuss what I just cleaned in here. Please keep it on topic.
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Manual Camera just came out a few weeks ago, but it's by far been the best for me (a camera junkie).
It's best used if you're used to the settings on a DSLR, but has an awesome auto setting and the fastest auto-focus i've seen yet on the N6.
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I liked the Manual Camera, but there is no option for video mode and front camera mode..