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Upgrade then backup question..C'MON PEOPLE I NEED YOUR HELP!

Hello all,
I am a total novice at this stuff but request a little help. If you have 2 minutes spare please humour me and help out :wink:
I decided to upgrade my ROm etc for the first time and went to the o2 XDA site to do it.
It seemed to go fine. Then I restored my full backup from the xbackup thing, from my SD card. Is this correct? Or have I just undone my ROM upgrade? All my programs are back on but it looks the same.
If I cant restore after an upgrade, how do i get all my photos and other things back on? I can reinstall programs no prob, and contacts and calender will sync from my PC, but what about everything else?
Sorry if this question has already been asked but I tried the search facility and got nowhere.
Thanks in advance
HPJ
PS you never know, one day I might add something to this forum rather than just asking dumbass questions...

Well I got bored waiting so I bit the bullet and did the upgrade with no restore afterwards.
Seems all fine. Gotta reinstall everything I think so i'm slowly working my way through that. I'll keep posting....if anyones reading?! :!: :?:

HPJ
Glad you solved your problem. The reason that you never got an answer is that the topic of should I restore a backup after a new rom flash has been covered so many times before.
I will add a line in wiki BlueAngel For Beginners

Yeah I thought that, but the search facility seems to give so many inaccurate results that it just takes too long to go through all of them.
I'm just not technically minded, as I'm sure many others on here aren't, so more often than not we are stumped by the simplest of things.
Oh well...still far better off with the xda2s than anything else!

I understand your point on the search, it takes time to work it out and some things you just can't search for as they seem to be blocked.
The problem that we have is trying to work out the post that are based on the fact the the user has tried to find a solution and the ones that just have not.
Take the upgrade issue, we have wiki and it points you to a thread that reads Wiki, help me and yes I have read getting started. So Why do we have new threads that read upgrade failed?
On good days some of us point new users in the right direction and on bad days some of us don't. Would be nice if it was not allways the same ones.

That's the problem I had also. I'll search for stuff, but when I get results, a lot of them conflict. Not only that, but in the wiki there are things that branch off onto multiple levels. If someone ran a graphical link checker, I'm sure one would find a spider web.
I've found that I got more precise answers by posting and getting a response than going to the wiki. Although, I actually learned more by reading through the wiki....after I did what I needed to do first.
I use Linux and in the config file for Postfix, there are a million things that you can change. Looking through it I thought I had to change everything. Turns out, after I asked, I only had to make 2 changes to get it working.
I'm sure the mods and the expert posters do the best they can, but I'm thinking some spring cleaning needs to happen....from a newbie's point of view.
Tom

Tom
On the wiki side its an open site, so if you have a login you can change what it says, correct it or even add to it. Thats the whole Idea of it.
I know that its not perfect well I should anyway. However its better than nothing, it can be fixed by us all and not just a chossen few. Please remember that these people don't have the newbie frame of mind so they write what makes sence for them, leaving out information that should be understood by the reader if he is in that section. (Like the kitchen)-
So if you feel that it needs cleaning up then please do it, you have the rights, you have gained the knowlege so its all up to you or others.

Well here's a little update as to my experience upgrading the ROM and all the other bits.
It sucks! My xda2s was damn perfect before I upgraded. Since upgrading I have had to soft reset about 5 times a day, just because it decides to freeze on me.
Then, when you take it out of its cradle, it freezes...EVERY TIME!!! So whenever it comes out its cradle i have to soft reset!!!
Shurely shome mishtake??!??!!
And surely it's been fixed with something by someone on here that has 'the knowledge' (for I definitely do not, in case you hadn't noticed!).
And the benefits?? Er.......well the phone screen looks a little different...ummm.....that's it. I think. Oh yes, did I mention it freezes whenever it bloody well feels like it??!?!
Here's what the figures are now....for those of you that know what they mean...
ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtROM version: 1.31.139 WWE
Annoyance setting: Maximum
Timescale to be thrown through the nearest window: Imminent
HPJ

Have you got the O2 'today' screen still running (with O2 button top of screen)? If so that's the biggest offender of lockups in my opinion!
I followed instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350&highlight=
and since then its only locked once in about about a month...before that soft resent 3 to 4 times per day!

sounds good I'll give it a go now.....will post my results soon!!

My word I think it's worked!
See I knew it would be something simple....just took someone 2 minutes to point me in the right direction :roll:
Cheers vince
I'll crawl back into my newbie hole now until the next problem.....!!!
HPJ

i was in the same situation...only having had my XDA IIs for a month or so...was extremely hacked off that it was so unreliable! BTW did you have the connections.exe or connections.lnk? There seems to be some variation between machines...though moving out either one seems to stop the dreaded O2 software loading up!
by the way, are you using wifi connections? My XDA IIs (and others from searching on the net) seem to have a lot of problems connecting (it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....however I found something that said try re-entering WEP keys for known connections....and from my experience this seems to work for me. My Dell Axim organiser never had this problem...so possibly another 'feature' of the XDA IIs !!!

vincexda said:
(it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....quote]
For me it happends when your ip and subnet mask (in connection card settings) dont match with the wifi net you are connecting to... the pda found and connect but can not go online because is not a part of the right network (i.e. 192.168.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 usually..or subnet 255.255.255.0 and 255.0.0.0) byez!
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GPS in ATT Tilt

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bigone5500 said:
Does the ATT Tilt have an internal gps? If so how can I enable it for use without an external reciever?
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???
Did HTC or XDA devs publish a spec sheet? Did anyone ask this question before? Did Google develop the art of searching?

There's a LOT on this and if you only look at the specs, you'll know. In short, it does have GPS and it is usable without an external one.

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bigone5500 said:
Does the ATT Tilt have an internal gps? If so how can I enable it for use without an external reciever?
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seriously...I means SERIOUSLY???? Have you ever looked at the back of your Tilt where it says GPS?? or did you never read specs on the tilt or are you unable to understand english??
LEARN TO SEARCH!!!

Durrr.....why am I hungry? It doesnt say anywhere on my body that its hungry.

Yes, the ATT Tilt has GPS
It does have a built-in GPS. This same issue threw me off at first too, until I figured it out..
You flamers shouldn't flame the OP. Actual Kaiser and TyTnII owners may already know about the GPS, but the ONLY part of the "AT&T Tilt" documentation referring to GPS is the brief mention of being able to get TeleNav. I know this because I have one. The specs/box mention that it has GPS, but that's all.
Now if I remember correctly, the GPS is COM3 or COM4 by default (unless you changed it in Start->Settings->System->External GPS). I changed mine to COM0 just for the hell of it, and it functions normally.
TomTom should work just fine, set it to 4800 baud, and try it with each COM port available in the options. It sometimes takes a few minutes for TomTom to display that the GPS is in "connected, but no valid signal yet" mode.
If you want to be able to use your Tilt's GPS as an external for some other device, the best thing I've found is GPSGate, but any COM-port splitter should work (as long as it presents a new Bluetooth and/or Serial service)
GPSGate is also useful since you can tell it to log your GPS data to any URL, à la those logging/who-stole-my-phone programs. It can also multiplex the GPS port for use by multiple programs (but I think that functionality is also built into WM and is called the "GPS Intermediate Driver", but I may be mistaken)
Hope this helps!
--Weasel

It is definatly listed in the specs of the phone and it says it on the back of the phone. Why would you consider getting a phone without looking at the specs of it first??

Well I didnt' come to this forum to get this kind of response...and no I have never looked at the back of my phone...I let others do my dirty work
Administrators ... delete my account ... please...

bartimeus said:
It is definatly listed in the specs of the phone and it says it on the back of the phone. Why would you consider getting a phone without looking at the specs of it first??
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Oh I only researched it for 2 months and played with a friend's phone for another month before buying...

weasel5i2 said:
You flamers shouldn't flame the OP.
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Thank you.......

kareem9nba said:
In short, it does have GPS and it is usable without an external one.
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...and this is all I wanted to know...

bigone5500, just keep a list of those who flame others and those who are helpful, then when and "IF" you decide to donate, check your list.....
this site is a very good place for great info, do not let those who's only purpose here is to belittle others run you off.....

GPS stopped working for my ATT TILT
my GPS was working fine. my tomtom was working fine, googlemaps was working fine. then all of a sudden a few weeks ago it just stopped working! usually i would use GPS test to get a working signal and then I would run tomtom and it would work. a few months ago it started to take a much longer time to acquire a valid gps signal (it would take a few to 5 minutes). but now it just doesnt find one at all! is there anything i could do to try to fix this? what com port should it be on? im thinking i mightve changed one of the settings unknowingly. please help!

Problems with GPS in HTC DIamond?....

I've recently bought HTC Diamond, but I have a problem I can not run GPS:
I'm doing this by going in tools and i click on the QuicGPS icon after i click i appears a window which is asking me to download data from the server i used to download this datas for more than 1 hour but nothing hapend after each the page it is asking me to download and download again can anybody explain what to do or haw this thing should work thanks

You're not going to get a lot of sympathy around here asking a question like that. You really ought to have searched around... right now on page one there's at least two concurrent threads concerning GPS issues.
Anyway, seeing as you're new at this... when you've downloaded a QuickGPS update once, that's it; just close it, leave it alone, and don't run it again... this is not your GPS, it just gets some settings for it!
Then go away to an application that uses GPS (like Tomtom or Google Maps) and set that to use your GPS.
If you're still stuck after this, then search around, the answers are here if you look... Though there's so much ****e talked about GPS around here that you'll need to try to filter the good from the bad I'm afraid.

thanks
thanks man

GPS Question

I know this has been asked before but im getting frustrated i cant get it to work >.<
I bought the tytn II for the gps mainly and for mine not to work its just annoying,
Ive tried all sorts of different roms and radios combined and all end up with the same result.
My GPS does not lock at all no matter if i leave it over night with the power plugged in, when the using gps test program it doesnt lock it always says "GPS Starting UP" the lights near the speaker flash from green and then to the orange and red on either side. So the gps is turning on but it will never lock.
Has anyone got anything, anything at all i can try? Or will i have to wait for HTC to make a fix for it?
If you can help me id be extremly happy =D
Many Thanks,
Kyon

Might want to try "GPS Tuner:" http://www.gpstuner.com/download/index.html. It shows the number of satellites received and strength. COM 4 is also the magic number to set for the phone's GPS to operate.
I usually activate it whenever I think a satellite mapping program like Garmin XT or Google Earth isn't working only to find I got weak signals or too few.
Mack

Awsome ill give it a try and then see what happens and report back =]
Thanks tho,

Hmm i tried the gps tuner and got nothing,
It said fix invailid and never picked up any sats or nothing im starting to wonder if my gps in the phone is busted, >.<
Shame if it is i have no idea how to tell if it is broken or not and if its replaceable or repairable v.v
If anyone has any other ideas to try lol =]
Many Thanks,

All sorts but not the right sort
Kyon147 said:
Ive tried all sorts of different roms and radios combined and all end up with the same result.
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Then unless you're in a lead lined room with no windows and in a place on the planet with little GPS coverage, you've not tried the combination in my sig.

You mentioned that you left the GPS on overnigth plugged in??? Any chance you are forgetting it has to be outside with a clear view of the sky to work in most situations? I have found if I accidently turn it on and it cant; find any satilietes in my plac,e then I try to use it outside it takes FOREVER to lock in.... How long are you waiting while outside somewhere with a clear view of hte sky (not inbetween soem buildings or anything like that)
Kyon147 said:
Hmm i tried the gps tuner and got nothing,
It said fix invailid and never picked up any sats or nothing im starting to wonder if my gps in the phone is busted, >.<
Shame if it is i have no idea how to tell if it is broken or not and if its replaceable or repairable v.v
If anyone has any other ideas to try lol =]
Many Thanks,
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Teej53214 said:
You mentioned that you left the GPS on overnigth plugged in??? Any chance you are forgetting it has to be outside with a clear view of the sky to work in most situations? I have found if I accidently turn it on and it cant; find any satilietes in my plac,e then I try to use it outside it takes FOREVER to lock in.... How long are you waiting while outside somewhere with a clear view of hte sky (not inbetween soem buildings or anything like that)
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I have tried outside for over a hour and got nothing >.< I'm at the point thinking it might just be my kaiser and go out and buy another lol but so many people have the same issue i also think it may not be my kaiser. Im just lost on what to try lol.
Flying Kiwi said:
Then unless you're in a lead lined room with no windows and in a place on the planet with little GPS coverage, you've not tried the combination in my sig.
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Hmm i could try your combination lol could you give me links to the rom and radio please =]

"So the gps is turning on but it will never lock."
sorry, what u mean "never lock"? ...I try Google Earth mobile ... some time can see detected 6 satellites sometime 2 ... the figure keep up & down .... is that mean "never lock"??

Most likely your Kaiser is defective.
To tsfatt: Him saying the GPS never locks means that if he did what you say the figure would always stay 0.

yeah looks that way, i bought it second hand and i think it may of been dropped and damaged before i bought it
When using GPS test the sateillites show up sometimes they dont have any signal but they show up for a couple seconds then dissapear >.< so i dont know where i stand.
Think ill just buy a brand new one and see where that takes me lol but i wont give up just yet may opent he phone up and see for a lose connection.
Thanks,
P.s Keep the ideas coming guys =] more the merrier X3

kilrah said:
Most likely your Kaiser is defective.
To tsfatt: Him saying the GPS never locks means that if he did what you say the figure would always stay 0.
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oic. .....

Mine works perfectly from the window sill but it's a big window!
Kyon147 said:
Hmm i could try your combination lol could you give me links to the rom and radio please =]
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The Radio is built into the RUU (ROM upgrade package) so if you already have a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on the device, all you'd need to do is flash hardSPL 1.0 onto the device and then run the official HTC RUU which is avail at the HTC Kaiser ROM section of XDAs wiki near the bottom of the page. If you later want the HTC original SPL 1.93, pm me as I got mine from one of the mods here.

Flying Kiwi said:
The Radio is built into the RUU (ROM upgrade package) so if you already have a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on the device, all you'd need to do is flash hardSPL 1.0 onto the device and then run the official HTC RUU which is avail at the HTC Kaiser ROM section of XDAs wiki near the bottom of the page. If you later want the HTC original SPL 1.93, pm me as I got mine from one of the mods here.
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Okay cool ill give it a try and just hope it works >.< lol
Thanks for the help =]

Kyon147 said:
Okay cool ill give it a try and just hope it works
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I suggest that loading the basic GPS software (such as TomTom 6.032 or Google Maps) and testing it is the first thing you do after the post ROM flash hard reset. That way you can be sure that nothing else is interfering with the GPS functionality. If it still doesn't work then as already mentioned there's probably a hardware issue. If you have a compatible HTC GPS antenna, plugging that into the socket near the camera cover, while not necessary, may help. Let us know what happens.

GPS 'Hardware' on the Tilt

hi Guys,
i have been scouring the site and i have found lots of info on getting a quick fix on the GPS and which radios work best, i have downloaded lots of radios, tried different roms but no matter what i try, I cant get a fix PERIOD. i have also googled to try and find out if the GPS itself is a replaceable part on the tilt but no info seems to be available, having said that I would definately appreciate any input, i have tried stuff like GPSgate, GPSproxy, HTC GPS tool, GPSTest, VisualGPSce, QuickGPS, QuickPosition and NONE of those tools has shown me what a GPS fix looks like, I have seen up to 8 satellites on the HTC tool, they show up and dance around for about 1 or 2 minutes and then dissapear never to be seen again until after a reboot of the phone.
i have also borrowed a friends Tilt, and placed them side by side, and watched his phone get a fix in about 1 minute, and then stuck around for about 20 more minutes and then finally end the test in frustration.
is the GPS a replaceable part?
any input would be greatly appreciated
Phone: AT&T branded TILT
ROM:Ultimate-X2.V11.Premium (wm6.5)
RADIO:1.71.09.01
Protocol:25.75.40.02.eMoH

My advice to you would be to just keep trying to find a radio ROM that works for you. I recently got a Tilt, and I flashed some odd 5 or 6 radios before I found one that enabled WiFi and GPS for me. Ironically, its the one you are currently using xD.

illspamu said:
is the GPS a replaceable part
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No but the antenna sticker (with fragile embedded tracks) is. That said, you mentioned you still get greyed out satelite details showing and changing in your nav software so that may not be an issue (you've not mentioned if this sticker above the battery bay has been disturbed at all). If you are worried about whether your new setup has contributed to the problem, the answer is simple, was it working OK before you changed the ROM/Radio or SPL from original WM 6.0?
Oh and welcome to the forum illspamu - I hope you don't live up to your name

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@ashakur
thank you, havent given up I know there is a radio out there for me.
@Flying Kiwi
thanks
I am a total newb to this, so this info about the antena is something i need to check, it is worth mentioning that i did buy this tilt with a broken screen so someone probably used it for a hockey puck, its been a great phone minus the GPS but I recently became demanding and want to see it working.
the GPS has never worked beyond showing me some satelites for a couple of minutes and its been the same regardless of ROM/Radio.
about the handle, worry not, its amazing how an email address like that can keep spammers off
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my apologies ashasaur for mispelling your name,