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They make these things called Micro USB to USB adapters. As long it has Host support (which devs can most certainly add) you are all set.
So stop worrying and buy the 8GB model
EDIT: Once you get your Nexus, please post a review of YOUR USB-OTG setup so that we can have a quick reference to know which products work and which don't.
Post in the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766260
Mod edit: this thread should be used for all discussion relating to USB-OTG
Censura_Umbra said:
They make these things called Micro USB to USB adapters. As long it has Host support (which devs can most certainly add) you are all set.
So stop worrying and buy the 8GB model
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Nah. I'll make do with the tablet I have until somebody wants to sell me the tablet I want. I'm hoping Asus will still sell their 7" tablet instead of throwing all that business to Google.
I know someone who has a massive music collection - almost 500GB in size - and, whilst he likes the looks of tablets, he cannot find one that would allow him to comfortably store even a fraction of his music on. If he were to buy a Micro-USB to USB adapter, could he then connect his hard-drive into the Nexus 7 (or any other Android device for that matter) and listen to his music off there?
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Paten said:
Nah. I'll make do with the tablet I have until somebody wants to sell me the tablet I want. I'm hoping Asus will still sell their 7" tablet instead of throwing all that business to Google.
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Which tablet do you presently have?
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An original 7" Galaxy Tab.
Being able to hook up an external HDD is great, but not the most practical thing to do on the go. Seems kind of silly to have to take out a hard drive on a short bus/train ride or something, but I suppose it's better than nothing.
Anyone else thought of some cool ways to maximize storage space?
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Being able to hook up an external HDD is great, but not the most practical thing to do on the go. Seems kind of silly to have to take out a hard drive on a short bus/train ride or something, but I suppose it's better than nothing.
Anyone else thought of some cool ways to maximize storage space?
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1) There is the cloud. 20,000 songs is no laughing matter. And on a short bus ride is ample.
2) You can store a few of your favorite albums ON the tablet. For emergency, no data use.
3) Use the Storage method while at home or during long trips.
You can easily expand with micro USB sticks which you can't even notice plus they cheaper and you get more storage
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Because that worked out so well for the Kindle Fire. Oh wait, it didn't, because the USB port is 3.3V and needs an external power source for host mode.
I'm going to wait and see if the Nexus 7 has proper USB OTG support before I even think about getting one.
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1) There is the cloud. 20,000 songs is no laughing matter. And on a short bus ride is ample.
2) You can store a few of your favorite albums ON the tablet. For emergency, no data use.
3) Use the Storage method while at home or during long trips.
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did you really just say one should use an extern hdd for storage?!
first we would need to check the power level and then if it really would work who in the right mind would carry around a hdd all the time
the nexus 7 will fit in my jacket pocket most male people will not carry around a purse.
if i am at home me and most people will use a network drive.
i don't think i will need more than 16gb but we don't need to defend googles poor decission to not offer more space we are no apple fan boys and storage is mad cheap.
Not a huge concern for me...just a minor inconvenience. I think I'll opt for 16GB model for only $50 more.
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You can easily expand with micro USB sticks which you can't even notice plus they cheaper and you get more storage
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do you have a link for a micro USB stick?
Doesn't the micro USB operating in host mode suck down the battery (assuming that it has the appropriate power coming in...many that support this don't!)
As far as a portable hdd being too big, use a flash drive. I've seen 32 gb ones for around $30, with 64 gb not being too much higher. Of course, that only works if you don't have to have a powered hub.
Why is it so hard for Google to put in an SD Card slot?
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Question about this guys. So, assuming I load a few movies on a USB drive, I should be able to plug it into the tablet (via a micro USB-USB connector) and play the movies straight off the drive?
I only ask because I have been wanting this thing for a while, and loading 4-5 movies on it was going to be a huge plus, but 16GB is really cutting it close.
But if all I have to do is plug in a USB drive....I think I would be OK with that.
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Doesn't the micro USB operating in host mode suck down the battery (assuming that it has the appropriate power coming in...many that support this don't!)
As far as a portable hdd being too big, use a flash drive. I've seen 32 gb ones for around $30, with 64 gb not being too much higher. Of course, that only works if you don't have to have a powered hub.
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yes, it uses power but considering its flash memory it isnt a crazy amount
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Why is it so hard for Google to put in an SD Card slot?
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the price point and size, you cant get everything for $200, if you require an sd card get a galaxy tab 7 2, they charge 50 more for a dual core cpu and worse screen but include a sd card slot
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Why is it so hard for Google to put in an SD Card slot?
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Not hard at all. They clearly don't want to.
Tab 2 is crap. I have a Tab 7.7 but still stuck on Honeycomb. Screen is most important to me and Tab 2 is crap. I want pure Google. Google refuse to put in sd slots because they think the cloud is so great. It's not. Right now I have 76gb of music and movies on my Tab.
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Question about this guys. So, assuming I load a few movies on a USB drive, I should be able to plug it into the tablet (via a micro USB-USB connector) and play the movies straight off the drive?
I only ask because I have been wanting this thing for a while, and loading 4-5 movies on it was going to be a huge plus, but 16GB is really cutting it close.
But if all I have to do is plug in a USB drive....I think I would be OK with that.
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I think we're going to wait to hear from one of the guys that actually got their hands on one...I couldn't imagine why they would run the power (I think it's 5v instead of 3.3v, but don't quote me) to the micro-usb, but stranger things have happened. If they DIDN'T for some reason, then you'd be able to, but only with a powered USB hub, so it would be a little inconvenient to lug around.
I agree though. If I can hook in a flash drive without the extra power, then I'm good to go, and will be picking one up ASAP.
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I know someone who has a massive music collection - almost 500GB in size - and, whilst he likes the looks of tablets, he cannot find one that would allow him to comfortably store even a fraction of his music on. If he were to buy a Micro-USB to USB adapter, could he then connect his hard-drive into the Nexus 7 (or any other Android device for that matter) and listen to his music off there?
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who the hell needs that much music like over kill i put songs on my phone that i will listen to i highly doubt your friend listens to all 500gb's of music
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Tab 2 is crap. I have a Tab 7.7 but still stuck on Honeycomb. Screen is most important to me and Tab 2 is crap. I want pure Google. Google refuse to put in sd slots because they think the cloud is so great. It's not. Right now I have 76gb of music and movies on my Tab.
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you get what you pay for its that simple, you my friend have a dilemma so chose your priorities (pure google or micro sd clot) and pick your poison. Google had a price point and they did what they had to do to stick to it, so yes while It may only be a $5 addition, google has small enough profit margins as it is considering the kindle fire is sold at a loss and this has much more expensive hardware. So, I wouldn't expect google to take more than a 5% loss on this tablet, this is a business after all
Gps Mount
Case
OTG Cable
32gb USB stick
I don't think I missed anything right?
Screen protector.
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Screen protector.
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included with the case.
Once you get the case, can you comment on how much bulk it adds? I've been seeing that case everywhere, but I'm concerned it'll pretty much negate the N7's slimness...
I will, I'm hoping it's not much myself
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ive got the roocase with smart cover
32 gb flash drive and otg cable
wired 360 controller and ps3 controller for gaming
im gonna buy screen protector when it arrives and the wait is killing
I JUST read that the nexus 7 does not have usb on the go aka USB HOST.
Which makes that memory card and host cable useless unless you find a rom that will enable it. CM9 coming for nexus 7? Hopefully!
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I JUST read that the nexus 7 does not have usb on the go aka USB HOST.
Which makes that memory card and host cable useless unless you find a rom that will enable it. CM9 coming for nexus 7? Hopefully!
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Root + Stickmount.
what about one mobile power? also known as exteral battery charger/power bank. designed to charge cell phones and lots of usb devices. very handy and helpful when you are outdoor.
hope it helps~
The case you got seems to be the cheapest alternative for us Canadians. I've seen a few for Americans (through Amazon) that are less than $10. Sucks that we can get owned North of the border most of the time...
I know there are a couple threads out there concerning this cable/adapter. Most were of suggestions but no feedback. Anyone find a good one out there that works with flash drive? I know some people mentioned that the cables they found blocked the head phone jack, did anyone find one that didn't? Any information would be appreciated thanks!
http://dx.com/p/otg-connection-kit-w-usb-sd-tf-card-reader-for-samsung-i9100-i9220-black-135480
i grabbed this. works perfectly. has sd, micro sd AND usb ports. I find it to be awesome to have the choice.
Go on ebay and use the following search phrase:
otg micro cable left angled
Look at the pictures carefully though in order to make sure that a) it ends in the desired USB female connector, and b) the left angle is truly left. There are some listings that are still right-angled even though the description says "left angled".
Oh, and you'll likely have to wait for shipping from China.
Also on Amazon if you search for:
SANOXY Micro USB Host Mode OTG Cable Flash Drive SD T-Flash Card Adapter
The first one in the results looks like it's angled correctly. Also from China.
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i grabbed this. works perfectly. has sd, micro sd AND usb ports. I find it to be awesome to have the choice.
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That sounds awesome but unfortunately its sold out right now !
I'll try the ebay option too but we all know how trustworthy dealers are on email with electronic components. I am not in too big of a hurry for the item since Google hasn't even shipped out my Nexus 10 yet.
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http://dx.com/p/otg-connection-kit-w-usb-sd-tf-card-reader-for-samsung-i9100-i9220-black-135480
i grabbed this. works perfectly. has sd, micro sd AND usb ports. I find it to be awesome to have the choice.
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This is amazing. I didn't know this existed? I had seen a model from Japan that didn't have the wire at all, and kinda just sat flush with your device. (Not too flush, still jutted out quite a bit.) But either/or is good for trips when you need some extra space.
Thank you! Ordering one as soon as these mofo's go back in stock....
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DonToolBag said:
This is amazing. I didn't know this existed? I had seen a model from Japan that didn't have the wire at all, and kinda just sat flush with your device. (Not too flush, still jutted out quite a bit.) But either/or is good for trips when you need some extra space.
Thank you! Ordering one as soon as these mofo's go back in stock....
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I know its awesome. They have plenty of those for the samsung galaxy tabs (some withe even 5 different ports) made by Samsung. However the 7 pin adapter doesn't work the nexus. I'm hoping samsung does the same (with an audio jack) for the Nexus. Kind of infuriating that there is no support from Google or Samsung insight for accessories. Especially since these attachments are what separates them from their competitors (IPad can't use a flash drive because of the power limitation)
I wonder if this might work sense the 1 above appears to be sold out:
http://www.amazon.com/Koolertron-Samsung-I9220-I9250-Reader/dp/B008ZXRCEG
Hey people!
I have a Nexus 10 and I just ordered a Nexus 4, but the only thing that had been putting me off of it is the 16gb storage limit. I want to use my phone as an mp3 player and I want to use it in the metro, so no internet streaming possibilities.
I've been looking for solutions for a while and I found one, and since the N10 has a limited storage as well, I figured I'd share it
I bought a Gauntlet Patriot Node last week and received it today. (Note: I'm not affiliated with them in any way ) and I was wondering if I could use it as an extension to my tablet's storage. Basically, it's a hard drive enclosure that converts a 2.5'' drive into a battery-powered wi-fi hard drive.
Long story short, yes.
The app it comes with is pretty average, it lets you look at the files and everything, but it doesn't allow you to create playlists/listen to songs one at a time, so if you want to listen to music, you have to pick an individual song and then pick another one once it's done.
However, I ended up setting up ES File Explorer's LAN capabilities to use it with the node. I can now explore the node folders with it. Furthermore, ES' music player works great, and I can easily select one folder and make ES play it all, shuffle the stuff, etc.
Now, I know it's not the best solution ever and it's quite pricey, but I know the limited storage has been quite a pain for me, and I am probably not the only one. Such a device makes it really easy to expand storage and to move around with said expanded storage.
I also know I haven't been able to find much information when I looked for it, so I'd be glad to help anyone who has some!
Links pics or price would be nice
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Links pics or price would be nice
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Very true, should've thought about it. I cannot post any links however, as I don't have 10 posts yet
It's quite a small device, I'm guessing it's around the size of a 5'' phone, but it's around an inch thick.
The device cost me 95$ on Newegg.ca, and I got a 320 WD hard drive with it for 50 bucks.
Seagate has a mobile wifi hard drive as well, but it's priced at 200$, and some other brands do them as well but they're quite expensive. The node seemed like the cheapest way to me.
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Very true, should've thought about it. I cannot post any links however, as I don't have 10 posts yet
It's quite a small device, I'm guessing it's around the size of a 5'' phone, but it's around an inch thick.
The device cost me 95$ on Newegg.ca, and I got a 320 WD hard drive with it for 50 bucks.
Seagate has a mobile wifi hard drive as well, but it's priced at 200$, and some other brands do them as well but they're quite expensive. The node seemed like the cheapest way to me.
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The Ravpower I reviewed is cheapest but seems like a decent product
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The Ravpower I reviewed is cheapest but seems like a decent product
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I'm looking at the Ravpower, I hadn't seen it. Though as far as I can see, it takes SD cards as memory?
I'll be posting more as I get more use out of my node, I only got it today, so I obviously am still in the honeymoon phase. I should be receiving my nexus 4 tomorrow, so I'll be able to take it for a ride as well (though I'm scared of leaving the house with the n4 without a cover, which should be delivered on the 18th...)
I'm really fond of the fact I can put a hard drive of up to 2tb in the device though. Obviously, I'll never use that much, but it's a great idea.
My main gripe with it is that it can't connect to a hidden wi-fi, so I can't connect to our home's through it. Not that big of a deal though, as I mean to use it as an extension on the road anyways.
Sd card, microsd, or any storage device that require a usb port
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Sd card, microsd, or any storage device that require a usb port
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It's smaller as well, so I'm sure to many it would be more practical. Also, the ability to use an SD card or a flash drive is great, I can already see the music jump because my hard drive bounced in my bag.
Oh well, nothing's perfect :victory:
By the way, it took me a long time to figure out how to set my drive to work the way I wanted it to, and I just realized that while looking online, the article that gave me the idea to try ES file explorer came from you, I had read your thread without realizing it. So thanks for that
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It's smaller as well, so I'm sure to many it would be more practical. Also, the ability to use an SD card or a flash drive is great, I can already see the music jump because my hard drive bounced in my bag.
Oh well, nothing's perfect :victory:
By the way, it took me a long time to figure out how to set my drive to work the way I wanted it to, and I just realized that while looking online, the article that gave me the idea to try ES file explorer came from you, I had read your thread without realizing it. So thanks for that
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Glad it was helpful. Enjoy the node. Oh how long does it last?
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Glad it was helpful. Enjoy the node. Oh how long does it last?
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I have not used it out yet, my brother didn't wake up when the UPS dude came home, so I won't be getting my N4 before tomorrow. Since my galaxy W has an SD card, I am still using it, so I can't confirm the battery time, nor how different parameters (connecting to wifi through it, for example) affect it. The specs sheet says 5.5 hours, however, and the cables are quite easy to carry around.
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I have not used it out yet, my brother didn't wake up when the UPS dude came home, so I won't be getting my N4 before tomorrow. Since my galaxy W has an SD card, I am still using it, so I can't confirm the battery time, nor how different parameters (connecting to wifi through it, for example) affect it. The specs sheet says 5.5 hours, however, and the cables are quite easy to carry around.
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The 320gb version is on sale for 100 @ amazon
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Not in Canada, sadly Great to know however, if anyone's interested in it.
I've played with it a bit more today, and it is really slow if you want to play with the files on it via the wifi. However, with an usb 3.0 cable, it's as fast as you'd expect.
I just purchased the Seagate Wireless Plus from Best Buy for $199.99 (seems to be the same price on Amazon, B&H or wherever you buy it). It's USB 3.0, just a little bigger than the typical portable, and has a 1TB SATA drive. It sets up its own wifi hotspot that you can connect to with any wifi-enabled device (Android, IOS, Windows, Mac). There's a downloadable app for Android and IOS to access the drive, and Windows and Mac use a browser. It's capable of multi-user streaming--3 users can stream their own movies at the same time. It claims up to 10 hours battery life, but, of course, that depends on what it's being used for, and how many people are using it at once. I've only tested it very briefly, but I was able to connect a Nexus 4, Nexus 10, Transformer Infinity, Surface RT, Windows 8 desktop and Windows 8 laptop. It worked well over a distance of about 25-30 feet (it may have a greater range, but I didn't test it for maximum range)
Edit: it has a pass-through so that you can connect to the drive and the internet at the same time.
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I just purchased the Seagate Wireless Plus from Best Buy for $199.99 (seems to be the same price on Amazon, B&H or wherever you buy it). It's USB 3.0, just a little bigger than the typical portable, and has a 1TB SATA drive. It sets up its own wifi hotspot that you can connect to with any wifi-enabled device (Android, IOS, Windows, Mac). There's a downloadable app for Android and IOS to access the drive, and Windows and Mac use a browser. It's capable of multi-user streaming--3 users can stream their own movies at the same time. It claims up to 10 hours battery life, but, of course, that depends on what it's being used for, and how many people are using it at once. I've only tested it very briefly, but I was able to connect a Nexus 4, Nexus 10, Transformer Infinity, Surface RT, Windows 8 desktop and Windows 8 laptop. It worked well over a distance of about 25-30 feet (it may have a greater range, but I didn't test it for maximum range)
Edit: it has a pass-through so that you can connect to the drive and the internet at the same time.
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Is it at all possible to connect to it through the likes of ES file explorer as it appears can be done with the node, or does it HAVE to be via their own app? The seagate plus does tempt me but the deal breaker is it's inability to stream most of the mainstream video formats. Without the ablity to stream them, and being forced to copy them across to the device, the seagate plus is useless to me.
I am once again tempted by the node, battery life is not too important to me, as i don't take it outside with me that much and tend to have a wall plug available, but i like the notion of using it with ES.
The ravpower holds no interest to me. If it had a harddrive built into the thing it would, but i want just a single box that does it all, SD and flash card is irrelevent to me as well seeing as i have an OTG cable.
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Is it at all possible to connect to it through the likes of ES file explorer as it appears can be done with the node, or does it HAVE to be via their own app? The seagate plus does tempt me but the deal breaker is it's inability to stream most of the mainstream video formats. Without the ablity to stream them, and being forced to copy them across to the device, the seagate plus is useless to me.
I am once again tempted by the node, battery life is not too important to me, as i don't take it outside with me that much and tend to have a wall plug available, but i like the notion of using it with ES.
The ravpower holds no interest to me. If it had a harddrive built into the thing it would, but i want just a single box that does it all, SD and flash card is irrelevent to me as well seeing as i have an OTG cable.
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Otg can power portable hard drives too.... Then shouldn't the node and Seagate units be useless also?
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hughlle said:
Is it at all possible to connect to it through the likes of ES file explorer as it appears can be done with the node, or does it HAVE to be via their own app? The seagate plus does tempt me but the deal breaker is it's inability to stream most of the mainstream video formats. Without the ablity to stream them, and being forced to copy them across to the device, the seagate plus is useless to me.
I am once again tempted by the node, battery life is not too important to me, as i don't take it outside with me that much and tend to have a wall plug available, but i like the notion of using it with ES.
The ravpower holds no interest to me. If it had a harddrive built into the thing it would, but i want just a single box that does it all, SD and flash card is irrelevent to me as well seeing as i have an OTG cable.
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The Ravpower is actually a very sensible option. It's cheaper and it holds flash data. If you're on a trip, every time the hard drive will bounce, so will the data on the screen. It's also much smaller.
It's a matter of portability VS capacity
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Otg can power portable hard drives too.... Then shouldn't the node and Seagate units be useless also?
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An otg cable is attatched by a cable, hence the name, and i do not really like even having my otg cable hanging off the tablet due to potential damage to the por. The node or seagate are wireless. Very different things. It also means that the tablet itself is powering the harddrive, and while i do not know any figures, i assume that powering a harddrive uses more battery than streaming something over wifi. I could be wrong on that. Furthermore a portable harddrive cannot easily be connected to two or more devices on different sides of the room at the same time.
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The Ravpower is actually a very sensible option. It's cheaper and it holds flash data. If you're on a trip, every time the hard drive will bounce, so will the data on the screen. It's also much smaller.
It's a matter of portability VS capacity
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If i were to use the ravpower it would not be with a flash drive. I already have a 32gb flashdrive that can plug into my tablet. If i were to use the ravpower it would be for a 1tb harddrive, in which case i would still experience this "bounce", although i've never in the past experienced this bounce when using a mechanical disk. any travelling i do that would see me using my tablet is on a motorway, or a trainline. There is no bumping around. Plus the ravpower is not much smaller once you have a portable harddrive attached. Then you have two devices that might have to be kept in bay by say rubber banding them together, and you also have a cable from the harddrive to keep at bay. The node or seagate is a simple box. Nothing more. I want things kept simple and clean.
The only appeal the ravpower might hold is as a battery pack, but it is not a significant selling point for me in my situation.
Very simply put, the ravpower does nothing for me, what i want is simply a single box that does it all over wifi.
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An otg cable is attatched by a cable, hence the name, and i do not really like even having my otg cable hanging off the tablet due to potential damage to the por. The node or seagate are wireless. Very different things. It also means that the tablet itself is powering the harddrive, and while i do not know any figures, i assume that powering a harddrive uses more battery than streaming something over wifi. I could be wrong on that. Furthermore a portable harddrive cannot easily be connected to two or more devices on different sides of the room at the same time.
If i were to use the ravpower it would not be with a flash drive. I already have a 32gb flashdrive that can plug into my tablet. If i were to use the ravpower it would be for a 1tb harddrive, in which case i would still experience this "bounce", although i've never in the past experienced this bounce when using a mechanical disk. any travelling i do that would see me using my tablet is on a motorway, or a trainline. There is no bumping around. Plus the ravpower is not much smaller once you have a portable harddrive attached. Then you have two devices that might have to be kept in bay by say rubber banding them together, and you also have a cable from the harddrive to keep at bay. The node or seagate is a simple box. Nothing more. I want things kept simple and clean.
The only appeal the ravpower might hold is as a battery pack, but it is not a significant selling point for me in my situation.
Very simply put, the ravpower does nothing for me, what i want is simply a single box that does it all over wifi.
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Then it's between the Gauntlet (either the node or the one with a drive in it) and the Seagate... Though I hear Corsair is coming with something very good. I believe WD launched a wifi unit recently too. It's still a very early technology and is far from optimal, but as it develops, I'm sure we'll get some amazing results in the next years.
hughlle said:
Is it at all possible to connect to it through the likes of ES file explorer as it appears can be done with the node, or does it HAVE to be via their own app? The seagate plus does tempt me but the deal breaker is it's inability to stream most of the mainstream video formats. Without the ablity to stream them, and being forced to copy them across to the device, the seagate plus is useless to me.
I am once again tempted by the node, battery life is not too important to me, as i don't take it outside with me that much and tend to have a wall plug available, but i like the notion of using it with ES.
The ravpower holds no interest to me. If it had a harddrive built into the thing it would, but i want just a single box that does it all, SD and flash card is irrelevent to me as well seeing as i have an OTG cable.
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The Seagate will stream whatever video formats you put on it; it's basically just a regular NTFS hard drive. The only limitation as to formats rests entirely on the device you're streaming to. If, for example, you're streaming a .mov file to a device that does not natively support .mov, then it won't play, at least not without a third-party app.
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The Seagate will stream whatever video formats you put on it; it's basically just a regular NTFS hard drive. The only limitation as to formats rests entirely on the device you're streaming to. If, for example, you're streaming a .mov file to a device that does not natively support .mov, then it won't play, at least not without a third-party app.
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Hmm. I have just read a lot of controversial stuff about the wireless plus and the goflex satelite
"The app on both iOS and Android look virtually identical. It features media players for Mp4 movies and music files. As long as you have your files in this format, things are golden. Fighting me tooth and nail, the player would not run my .avi, divx ot .mkv files."
so this inability to play avi files is due to the nexus not being able to natively play avi files and not the seagate device itself? I have close to 2000 films backed up as 700mb avi's, hence why i'm still looking around for something that suits my needs.
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Hmm. I have just read a lot of controversial stuff about the wireless plus and the goflex satelite
"The app on both iOS and Android look virtually identical. It features media players for Mp4 movies and music files. As long as you have your files in this format, things are golden. Fighting me tooth and nail, the player would not run my .avi, divx ot .mkv files."
so this inability to play avi files is due to the nexus not being able to natively play avi files and not the seagate device itself? I have close to 2000 films backed up as 700mb avi's, hence why i'm still looking around for something that suits my needs.
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It plays .avi and mkv files on the Nexus 10 with no problem. Just load them onto the drive from your computer, log on to the Seagate wifi hotspot and then access the movies using the Seagate app. As far as I know, the app does nothing more than access whatever is on the drive and streams it to your device; after that, it's up to the device's capabilities..
I am considering getting this phone to upgrade from my Galaxy S II, but I have a couple of questions.
The button placement: it looks like the power and volume buttons are right in the middle of the phone. That's exactly where my car mount is going to be gripping the phone. Is that going to be a problem? Same with the magnetic charging port. What do you use to mount this in your car?
Does this have proper file transfer support? It takes about 20 minutes to tranfser a 1gb file to my nexus7 over USB while it takes seconds on my Galaxy S. I've read this is because Google doesn't pay Microsoft for the patent to do this properly while Samsung does. What does Sony do? Is there proper file transfer support over USB like Samsung or is it going to be painfully slow like on the nexus?
For your mount question, I'd suggest getting a car mount specifically made for the Z3C as soon as one is made. Haicom makes great model-specific mounts, I have a Haicom bike mount for my phone and it has a good and sturdy fit. Much much better than any of those universal mounts.
For the file xfer question, I think android moved to MTP only at some point - it may have been with ICS. What version of android is on your GSII?
In my experience MTP has been much slower when compared to native file system browsing - especially when transferring many small files.
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Also for the mount, I have one of these and personally I would never go back to phone specific mounts. I have been using this for the past 2 or 3 years and have it mounted to my dash using an adhesive mount that I rigged to mate up with this one. I can't speak for the suction cup, but the grip itself is VERY strong and I have never had a phone even come close to trying to jump out of this thing. I currently mount my N5 in it in landscape mode and offset from center. I don't have my Z3C yet (monday) but I do not expect to have any issues mounting it in this mount.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008ALV0V4?pc_redir=1411496315&robot_redir=1
Btw, pro-tip...this mount can be very hard to open one-handed. For my N4 and the phone before that I stuck a dime inside the mount to keep it wedged open. When I got my N5 I upgraded the spacer coin to a nickel. With this cheap mod you can easily insert and remove your phone with one hand and the grip on your phone is still more than adequate, as I mentioned above.
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You can use a mount, although it needs to be offset quite a way to avoid clashing with buttons, I have the deff magnetic charger, and it just doesn't stay on the port :/
Great for at home with the phone lying flat, but when the phone is mounted horizontally it doesn't reliably stay on so I'm looking for another magnetic charge option, or I'll have to bite the bullet and just use micro usb. My mount is a http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kenu-Airframe-Portable-Car-Mount-Black/dp/B00D901B4W/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1411847564&sr=8-3&keywords=vent+car+mount
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I have the deff magnetic charger, and it just doesn't stay on the port :/
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You have the deff micro usb adapter? I just got two and they seem very strong. One of them can lift my sim cutter by itself which is 158 grams. I was really hoping to use one in the car and it seems like it should be more than strong enough to stick.
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I have one of these and personally I would never go back to phone specific mounts.
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Which phone specific mount have you used exactly? What were the problems that you had with it?
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Which phone specific mount have you used exactly? What were the problems that you had with it?
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My point is that this mount is so good that I have no desire to go back to phone specific mounts. I upgrade my phone at least once a year. Buying a mount for ONE phone that I have to replace when I upgrade is crazy IMO. Not to mention that I am very particular about mounts, don't like window mounts, don't like vent mounts, so options for phone specific mounts that I would actually consider are few and far between.
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You have the deff micro usb adapter? I just got two and they seem very strong. One of them can lift my sim cutter by itself which is 158 grams. I was really hoping to use one in the car and it seems like it should be more than strong enough to stick.
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It's not the strength, its the fact that it's attached to a relatively stiff cable, and the thing when not placed flat tends to try and tilt to one side or the other so it falls off very easily from the upside down position.
So if I do hold it offset to avoid the power button, I'll have to grip it nearer the top to avoid the camera button, but that's where the micro USB port is, so how is that going to work? I have an older version of the Exomount and don't really want to buy anything phone specific since I've been through Nokia, Samsung, BlackBerry and now possibly Sony in the past few years.
Could anyone provide a photo of their z3c looks like intheir car mount?
As for the file transfer, the stock ROM on 4.1 still supported the faster file transfer on the Galaxy SII. I'm on cyanogen mod with android 4.3 and it only does MTP. I have to take the SD card out every time or wait an hour to transfer the files. Which isn't as bad as the nexus with no removable memory, but still stupidly annoying. So you're saying Sony only supports MTP? Do you guys have the z3c or one of the recent z-series phones?
Every device which comes with 4.1 or later on release will only have MTP. Mass storage is dead - Google killed it.
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You have the deff micro usb adapter? I just got two and they seem very strong. One of them can lift my sim cutter by itself which is 158 grams. I was really hoping to use one in the car and it seems like it should be more than strong enough to stick.
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I have the deff micro usb adapter as well, and it's definitely a huge exercise in patience and delicacy when trying to get it to stick, even on a flat surface lol. Perhaps you got lucky with one of the good ones? Or can anyone else that has one also chime in with their experience?
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Every device which comes with 4.1 or later on release will only have MTP. Mass storage is dead - Google killed it.
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Thanks, this is what I was getting at.
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techguyone said:
It's not the strength, its the fact that it's attached to a relatively stiff cable, and the thing when not placed flat tends to try and tilt to one side or the other so it falls off very easily from the upside down position.
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Gotcha. My cable in the car is very thin and pliable so hopefully that means I wont have that problem.
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sk1d said:
So if I do hold it offset to avoid the power button, I'll have to grip it nearer the top to avoid the camera button, but that's where the micro USB port is, so how is that going to work? I have an older version of the Exomount and don't really want to buy anything phone specific since I've been through Nokia, Samsung, BlackBerry and now possibly Sony in the past few years.
Could anyone provide a photo of their z3c looks like intheir car mount?
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I'll take a pic when I get mine on monday if no one else has by then and let you know of any problems I have noticed. I have the u grip which holds the phone similarly to the exomount.
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I'm using Sony XSP-N1BT in my car. Best car stereo I bought in years! It acts as a smartphone cradle and it is very secure meaning your xperia won't pop out if you hit a bump., check it out :good:
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I'm using Sony XSP-N1BT in my car. Best car stereo I bought in years! It acts as a smartphone cradle and it is very secure meaning your xperia won't pop out if you hit a bump., check it out :good:
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That's interesting, I'd actually consider buying that, except I don't know how I'd be able to keep my phone charged, as it doesn't appear to have a magnetic charging point and the usb port is on the long side under a cover on the Z3c
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Every device which comes with 4.1 or later on release will only have MTP. Mass storage is dead - Google killed it.
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When you say every device, which devices/manufacturers do you mean?
My Xperia T is on 4.1.2 and does have Mass Storage option (for the micro-sd card memory only). Cannot remember if this was present in the 4.3 update as I am back on 4.1
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When you say every device, which devices/manufacturers do you mean?
My Xperia T is on 4.1.2 and does have Mass Storage option (for the micro-sd card memory only). Cannot remember if this was present in the 4.3 update as I am back on 4.1
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I also have a T - it was my previous phone. If you remember the phone was released with 4.0.3. This is why Sony kept the backward compatibility with this when they updated to 4.1.
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I'd actually consider buying that, except I don't know how I'd be able to keep my phone charged, as it doesn't appear to have a magnetic charging point
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Do you mean that the Z3c doesn't have a magnetic charging point?
If that's what you mean: luckily you are wrong, I'll get my z3c with the headphones (like many others) and a magnetic charging dock.
If that's not what you mean: sorry, then I probably missed some other piece of the conversation
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That's interesting, I'd actually consider buying that, except I don't know how I'd be able to keep my phone charged, as it doesn't appear to have a magnetic charging point and the usb port is on the long side under a cover on the Z3c
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Actually if you look at the last pic for this stereo on Crutchfield.com you will see that it does have the magnetic charging points built in. Even so, $200 for what amounts to a phone dock is very expensive.
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Actually if you look at the last pic for this stereo on Crutchfield.com you will see that it does have the magnetic charging points built in. Even so, $200 for what amounts to a phone dock is very expensive.
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The car stereo charges your xperia using built in magnetic charging connector. It works like a charm! All xperia devices are supported except for Z ultra due to its size and original Z. But the audio quality over bluetooth is amazing! It got built in clearaudio + and DSEE. I paired it with inifinity speakers and JL audio amplifier.
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I also have a T - it was my previous phone. If you remember the phone was released with 4.0.3. This is why Sony kept the backward compatibility with this when they updated to 4.1.
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That makes sense, never knew they removed Mass Storage on new androids.. getting closer to iOS I feel..
sorry for going OT, does the mic on your T work well? or does the other side find it hard to hear?