I want to change my w8 with micromax ninja 4.0(A87).
Do you think, it really worth so???
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Go for x8....dont buy galaxy y.....why y?
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Micromax A87
I just bought Micromax A87 around 3-4 days ago. It's pretty good for its price. 1 GHZ processor for that price is pretty astonishing. But, if you have a better budget, I suggest you go for something better. But, if your budget is low, this is the best for its price range. It's got good looks, 1 GHZ processor, good touch and works smooth so far.
Although, 2 things I'm worrying about is, its internal memory and its RAM. Its internal memory is 200 MB out of which about 180 MB is available, which I think for the heavy apps now, is not enough. But, again with the help of useful apps we can transfer a lot from internal to the external memory. So, it's not a very big problem. It's quite manageable I'd say.
Now, for my main worry. It's RAM. According to their website, it's RAM is 256 MB. But as seen on my device, in the "running services" section, I have a total of 110 MB RAM as shown in the bottom. I'm not sure if I'm wrong about the fact that the results displayed there are the fact about the RAM's size, but I'm assuming it to be that as I've checked with more friend's too. Their RAM shown there are matching. Now, if I'm getting 110 MB of RAM, I think I can say that the RAM may be 128 MB. But it is pretty less for phones nowadays. On top of that, the bloatware present takes upto 100 MB of the RAM, after which I'm left out with only 10 MB of RAM. So, I can't run many applications, and especially simultaneously.
I am planning to root it to remove bloatware and see if I can make the performance a little better. So, if someone can guide me through the rooting process for this specific phone, it would be really helpful. I know the rooting process but I just want to cross check it with an experienced guy because I don't want to brick my phone. And, also I'm going to call up their customer care to clarify why I'm getting such low RAM space even though they've stated much more on their website. I will post here, when I'm aware of what the problem is.
But, I still say that for the cost, it is really good and worth it. Depends on your budget. If it's low, then this is the best. And, I'm sure it can perform better than W8, if you're planning to shift, with a less budget.
*" If someone can guide me through the rooting process for this specific phone, it would be really helpful "*
Thanks for details guide aashish
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I check that phone specifications, there is no proximity sensor and accelerometer. Is it matter a lot for daily use phone??
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Welcome leecorp.
Actually, as per my usage till now, I've experienced the application of both accelerometer and proximity sensor. According to my knowledge, proximity sensor is the sensor which activates usually when we are in a call. The screen goes to sleep, when we get the phone near our face, so that our cheek or ear doesn't cause any interruption during call. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I've noticed this to be working with no problem at all. So, according to my knowledge of what it is, I would conclude that the proximity sensor is working fine. Now, for the acclerometer, according to me it's the sensor which detects the motion of the mobile in our hand. Like tilting or shaking, etc. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong. This is used many times while playing games. I've used an option in the settings which says "horizontal calibration", which uses the accelerometer to set the horizontal calibration. And, I also tried it and it works well. Also, I remember going through an option like, shake to change the song feature on the phone. I don't use it though. But, I remember seeing it. I can't tell you if it works but I think it does work as everything seen on this phone till now works. If you want me to check the working, I can do so and let you know. So, I think both the features that you're worrying about, works well. :good:
Also, just to update, I called the Micromax customer relations office and asked them about my RAM and Internal Memory. The figures I mentioned in my previous comment and quite wrong. My assumptions of the actual numbers were wrong. They told me that the RAM is 256 MB and that the OS takes a lot of it, leaving me with only 161 MB left. In which a lot goes to the preloaded apps leaving behind 35-50 MB of RAM space. But, if I root my phone and remove all the unwanted preloaded apps, I'm sure to gain much more space. Also, I'm planning to get a custom ROM for this, which is of smaller size than my OS now. So, by doing both I can gain a lot of RAM space.
And for the internal memory, they said that it is actually of 512 MB. Why we get very less space is because of the preloaded apps. Again, my solution is to root. Will remove as many as I can. It will give me much more space.
So, I hope this helped you gain more clarity about the phone.
Please help me get the rooting process for Micromax A87 ASAP. Any kind of help will be useful.
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I just wanted to ask how's ninja 4s battery backup
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Well, it's really nice. I only charge in the night. I use wi-fi, mobile internet whenever I'm out, and many apps running. It comes down to 45-50%.
It actually depends on you're usage. It might come down a little more depending on your usage. If it's heavy I think it'll go down a little more. My usage is moderate i'd say.
On the whole it's not complainable.
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Can you pls share some screenshots of a87.
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Yes leecorp.
Sorry for the late reply. I will shortly send them. Won't be able to do it immediately. Exam time so away from everything. Please give me a little time if that's alright.
Hope you understand.
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And just post here what you exactly wanna see. It'll help me solve your purpose better.
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When you speak of ram and it's usage you really should read up on how Linux manages ram..
You are speaking from a windows users point of view i believe. Windows has a completely different (and bad) way of managing ram from Linux.
Linux will grab most of the available ram and use it wisely (makes it look like you have little ram left).
Doesn't mean your system will run less efficiently - quite the opposite in fact..
Oh thanks a lot CtrlAltDelIrl !
I will look into it. I will hopefully find something now which can make me a little happy about my RAM.
But, I'm still quite keen on rooting it, just to make the performance a bit better. I hope someone helps me get a proper rooting process for my Micromax A87. Please update here if you do.
Thanks a lot. You gave me a new vision now. My bad that I forgot to differentiate between Linux and Windows. I forgot to let go my Windows habits and practices.
Like this. Taken from es task manager
And any pic to check it's screen resolution. And ppi
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Oh thanks a lot CtrlAltDelIrl !
I will look into it. I will hopefully find something now which can make me a little happy about my RAM.
But, I'm still quite keen on rooting it, just to make the performance a bit better. I hope someone helps me get a proper rooting process for my Micromax A87. Please update here if you do.
Thanks a lot. You gave me a new vision now. My bad that I forgot to differentiate between Linux and Windows. I forgot to let go my Windows habits and practices.
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i to brought the a87 yesterday
if ur flash with cfw then plz include me toooo
i will also try and after rooting did u remove any app? if yes then plz list it here
Custom roms for Micromax a87
Guys I got my sis this phone..and i wanted to install a custom rom preferably ics...any suggestions to where I can find it..thank you in advance
Guys I am realy very confused should I buy nija3.5 or 4 please help me or suggest me a good phone to buy in this range
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Dear All,
I have started this thread:
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Kindly contribute, share and explain.
We can help and built a community like I have done for Karbonn & Spice mobiles.
Without help from all members its not possible.
Thanks for reading.
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It seems that it hadn't been discussed before, and I find it very important. 2.3.4 stock ROM, and all the ROMs derived from that have the VM Heap size set to 48M, while at 2.2 this value is 32M. At normal usage 32M is perfectly enough, so I highly recommend to change it. The easiest way is to download VM Heap tool from market , its usage is obvious.
(Of course it requires root privileges.)
Why dont you simply add it in build.prop? Find the corresponding ling in dev forum.
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Why dont you simply add it in build.prop? Find the corresponding ling in dev forum.
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Obviously it is possible to do this via editing build.prop - I suggested this method because it is easier for a non-advanced user. (VM Heap tool does nothing else than changing this value in build.prop and reboot.) (I couldn't find this issue in the forum, that's why I mentioned here.)
thanks for this advice
So this is interesting... But a few feedbacks from people who had done it would be very helpful. What would we gain if we do it, did it really help, is memory level better? I wanna try it but i played with my phone tooo much recently i am getting a little scared.
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So this is interesting... But a few feedbacks from people who had done it would be very helpful. What would we gain if we do it, did it really help, is memory level better? I wanna try it but i played with my phone tooo much recently i am getting a little scared.
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Sure, but I can only share my experience, others can share theirs
Currently I run Zeus 3.2 with all the LG options added, and free RAM is usually >100M, sometimes it goes down to cca. 80M.
I have LG launcher, some LG widgets (contacts, calendar, battery), Battery Spy running, sometimes the browser, GMail, LG Mail, other apps), so it can be considered heavy usage.
Actually the free RAM is 135MB. (uptime cca. 2 days.)
I got a note7000 offer at a bargain price; half the price of the original... the idea is that the guy is selling it as fault emmc bug. He told me that wiping the data - factory reset caused the problem.
The phone works from times to times he said, is still partially functional, thus he still asks for the price of SII for it, which he wants to replace with.
My question is:
Is the emmc bug permanent? I want to buy it cause is such a awesome screen\phone and i cant afford one from retails at full price. My plan is to downgrade from ics to gb with safe kernels and hope it wont brick with odin as unsafe as it is already.
Don't buy it. He is selling a bricked device for half the price (I wouldn't pay that for a used but fully functional right now).
And you will always get problems with it in many different situations.
Its risky for me, but also rewarding. If you'd seen this particular phone, is almost brand new. He told me it wasn't used much and that is visible on the over all aspect. And god, i love amoled screens, even if pentile is infamous.
Could you describe what you mean by being bricked? -> the phone boots and installs stuffs, but from time to times has the flaw of getting stuck -> require reset.
Its on the way
ps. I trust that if i had this stuff happen to me, coming from a samsung product, i would be able to get it fixed somehow.
Congrats: you just bought a bricked device. I guess he used the repartition workaround which reduces available capacity.
He didn't do the only real fix: replace motherboard in Samsung Service Center.
If you read here more before buying you would understand my "do not buy". Now you will learn later.
And he didn't lie to you - he told everything about the condition.
If you want to learn now while waiting for it, start to read about bricked devices here, about hg42's repartition thread etc. You might need it
Well, wish me luck. I'm gonna follow the steps from around the topics here.
I just hope i can watch movies, and pictures, and browse the mail... then he can get stuck but just a little.
I got an ace on my sleeves though. I can test it before i buy it... any advices, maybe doesn't even have the bug, how i notice
that ?
I'm gonna try these steps on the clip from rootgalaxynote:
youtube - hDtTNDVcTF4
If it doesn't work, i'm screwed cause i do not have a replace phone atm.
Following those steps will only mean that you won't brick it again... and anyway that is really outdated... When you've had enough of constant freezes then you will probably want to try a slim rom such as Slim Bean 4.2.2
I just purchased a n7000 from a guy on eBay for $350.00. It has the Ultimate rom installed in the screenshots. This means that it should be fine, right? I should receive it this week sometime. I bricked my i9100 back when the brick bug first appeared so I'm kind of worried about this.
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Thanks for replies. I dunno what to expect. It is worrying, but probably i'll return it back cause is not worth the money if you put it this way "unusable".
He said to me to add a new sd card,,, i guess here is where he was just too honest. This confirms that there is actually a permanent damage to the hardware, especially the hefty 16 GB of memory.
My friend has the bug and he did the workaround , The phone freezes when you turn on bluetooth or wifi , And also the internal memory is low , but good luck with your's btw "restarting it from time to time" seems suspicious though
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My friend has the bug and he did the workaround , The phone freezes when you turn on bluetooth or wifi , And also the internal memory is low , but good luck with your's btw "restarting it from time to time" seems suspicious though
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Apparently that was a slight misleading. On itself doesn't restart. I got the phone right now. Is so huge even an elephant could use it.
Only freezes when i try write something thru usb cable. The ram is smaller, only 5 gb.
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Apparently that was a slight misleading. On itself doesn't restart. I got the phone right now. Is so huge even an elephant could use it.
Only freezes when i try write something thru usb cable. The ram is smaller, only 5 gb.
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Really? Then it might be double-bricked and double "workarounded". Each time lossing about 3 GB...
When I close my eyes I see the grinning of this a--h-le who sold it for real money.
That sucks...
Now I want to see if is only a memory problem of the storage sd, or is as well as for the last 'bastion' of my phone, 2GB rom... cause then i can install slimbean like i've been adviced here.
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That sucks...
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Why? You knew from the first day about the condition and bought it nevertheless.
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Why? You knew from the first day about the condition and bought it nevertheless.
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First off, i'm in a bit of trouble right now. As you can guess, i can do something about it, cause beyond this is the morality of getting into a mess on someone's fault. Now that has to be decided, as long as is not mine.
This guy told me it is partially usable, add a card, try fix it yourself. At 190$ i expect to be better then a S1 or nexus s which might easly outmatch this phone. If is a matter of pride. Just keep it to yourself.
Either i give this guy a bad review as is a site as amazon, where user feedback is noted, or i return it back myself. Is not the holly grail, is just a phone.
He told me is not permanent damage.
LE: I got some good news and bad new:
I cannot add videos, it simply doesn't write. It doesn't freeze my phone anymore, this time i'm using samsung kies. Good news, i can write photos and songs.
I'm half way there in trusting this guy that with a sd card, the phone will work just okay in installing stuff.
On the other hand, i dunno if the internal storage is damaged; can i install jelly bean? or change the culprit kernel? or should i live with it as it is.
the seller has a no return policy. so ur actually screwed. you think the seller is a noob and that he didnt know about the fix. sometimes being too wise makes u feel and idiot in the end.
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Do you guys want to help, or keep ranting?
qazibasit learn some english.
How i change camera setting to save all its files on external microsd card?
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Do you guys want to help, or keep ranting?
qazibasit learn some english.
How i change camera setting to save all its files on external microsd card?
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And now you are starting to get arrogant?
Even if I do not always follow qazis messages I do understand him very well - because Oxford english isn't a prerequisite here.
Members here can't help you: Why? Because you bought a brick device even when warned about it.
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And now you are starting to get arrogant?
Even if I do not always follow qazis messages I do understand him very well - because Oxford english isn't a prerequisite here.
Members here can't help you: Why? Because you bought a brick device even when warned about it.
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How was his random ranting relevant to this topic?
So what do you think... flashing a new kernel and formating the sdcard do any good?
I may have a different term for bricking: When used in reference to consumer electronics, a "brick" describes an electronic device such as a smart phone, game console, router, or tablet computer that owing to a serious misconfiguration, corrupted firmware or a hardware problem, can no longer function. The term derives from the vaguely cuboid shape of many electronic devices (and their detachable power supplies) and the suggestion that the device can only function as a large, heavy object.
As far as i see, this device has stuff installed on it, and i can't figure how he did it.
recommend me a memory error checking app if u know, please!
Flash a safe kernel and flash a new ROM.. Try that and if all works good we´ll continue..
The model number is N900A. I did get my phone through AT&T. I've heard that there are some serious problems rooting and installed roms etc through AT&T and Verizon. The Note 3 is my first Android device and I would have to say I'm in love with this phone. What I'm not in love with are all these apps and other nonsense running in my background. I hear rooting and installing different roms can solve this. I have used Clean Master from the app store to clear cache and free up RAM, but moments later these same apps open right back up. The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps. I did put some music and bought one app to change the icons on my phone. When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
Other thoughts would be:
How much RAM will I free up by rooting(assuming of course it's possible)and installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel? I'm looking for simplicity. Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM, and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
I'm hoping some of this information helps someone help me. I'm currently running 4.3. I've also researched some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?
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That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?
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if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone
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jerrycoffman45 said:
if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.
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It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.
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turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above
jerrycoffman45 said:
turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above
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Thanks again
The Kingo Root seems very simple. Think I'll do that and then maybe look into some roms.
jerrycoffman45 said:
if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone
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You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.
Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?
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You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.
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thats it auto correct got me
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Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?
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You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.
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You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.
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Any word on if/when that will be a possibility?
Also, meant to ask earlier(it's also a little too late since I've already done it)does using Kingo Root disable Samsung/AT&T updates like KitKat?(still blows me away that KitKat has yet to release for this phone on AT&T)
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The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps.
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Nothing to do with RAM. RAM is where apps run. When you install an app it gets installed to storage (think of storage like the hard drive on a desktop computer).
When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
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In Windows, the more free RAM you have, the better. In Android, any unused RAM is wasted RAM. As soon as you free up some RAM, Android's memory manager is going to load something in the newly freed space. RAM cleaning programs are a waste of battery, a waste of time (both yours and the computer's) and a waste of storage (the space they're stored in). Android has a great memory manager - let it do its thing.
How much RAM will I free up by rooting
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None. You'll be using storage to store su, busybox and SuperSU. Rooting has nothing to do with RAM.
installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel?
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Install Nova Launcher. It's an app, not a ROM, so there's no warranty issue, no bricking issue and it's a welcome change from the monkey-designed TouchWiz. (The old joke that if you sat a million monkeys at a million typewriters for a million years, eventually they'd have written all of Shakespeare's works? They'd also have written TouchWiz.)
Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM
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The amount of RAM an app uses is determined by the app, not by the ROM or the launcher (which is the "look" of the phone when you turn it on).
and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
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The stock ROM works, doesn't use that much storage (I collect apps like junkyard dogs collect fleas, and I have just a hair under 29GB of free internal storage - and a lot of junk apps I have to uninstall, because I just downloaded to help people. And as far as bugs go ... I haven't seen any in general (I had to return 2 Note 3s and one of the ones I have now, which is a refurb, may also have to go back - but that's all hardware issues). If you want looks you change launchers and lock screens. (And there's a lot you can do with the settings to make things look different.)
There's really only one reason to root - because you need (or really want) to run an app that needs root permissions.
There's really only one reason to run a different ROM - because it has features that you want that the stock ROM doesn't.
All the rest is experimentation, fun and watching geniuses (and there are a lot of them on xda) at work. But remember, rooting alone voids the warranty. ROMming not only voids the warranty, it can mess up your phone. Is it $700 worth of fun? That's for you to decide. Rooting (as long as you don't use root status to mess anything up) is safe. ROMming, not so much. Still fixable - in most cases - but the first time you're stuck in a boot loop, you'll panic longer than it takes to reflash the phone.
some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM
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If you run Kit Kat you'll free up some RAM, but the official update will be out soon anyway
and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
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Turn them off.
People are taking molehills and making Olympus Mons out of them. There are so many much simpler solutions to so many of the "problems" people want to "solve" by rooting or changing ROMs.
Oh, I forgot one other very important reason to root, and as a child of the 60s it should have been the first one to occur to me - sticking it to the man.
Thanks for all the help to those that responded. The last reply in particular would have been very helpful had a I not jumped the gun yesterday. I rooted my phone yesterday. DIDN'T try anything else like new themes/roms. Just rooted the phone. After about an hour the phone having issues. Freezing. Apps not opening. Then, I unrooted. Haven't had a freeze since, but the phone is still doing odd things it wasn't doing before. Apps appear to be taking longer open etc...I went to send a text message about an hour ago and when I clicked on the text to begin typing the big envelope icon covered the entire screen looking very pixelated. ugh....
Got my Moto X today, the White one. After playing with it for an hour I am just amazed that how fluid it is out of the box! Unbelievable and I am coming from S4 i9500. However I am kinda sad that the rear of the device is actually very smooth and not "grip-able" regardless of the block texture, that texture is inside somehow, anyway. Unlocked the Bootloader. Now the only thing is slightly making me scared is the storage space, I mean I just formatted and it has 10.87 GB available out of the box, which is not high by any means.
So what I wanted to ask that, if I flash a custom ROM, say LiquidMotion or those which are available, will that storage space of 10.87 GB be increased or not? I want the Touchless features and of course the Active Display to work as flawlessly as stock ROM., and some other features might be good, like flipping the phone face down to mute a call, slide right to call someone etc, if they are available that is. If the storage does increase, then which ROM should I target for? I am not asking for the best ROM here, keep that in mid, all ROMs are great, I am just asking for an opinion as I am completely new to Motorola section.
Kindly input here, I will be really grateful.
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Got my Moto X today, the White one. After playing with it for an hour I am just amazed that how fluid it is out of the box! Unbelievable and I am coming from S4 i9500. However I am kinda sad that the rear of the device is actually very smooth and not "grip-able" regardless of the block texture, that texture is inside somehow, anyway. Unlocked the Bootloader. Now the only thing is slightly making me scared is the storage space, I mean I just formatted and it has 10.87 GB available out of the box, which is not high by any means.
So what I wanted to ask that, if I flash a custom ROM, say LiquidMotion or those which are available, will that storage space of 10.87 GB be increased or not? I want the Touchless features and of course the Active Display to work as flawlessly as stock ROM., and some other features might be good, like flipping the phone face down to mute a call, slide right to call someone etc, if they are available that is. If the storage does increase, then which ROM should I target for? I am not asking for the best ROM here, keep that in mid, all ROMs are great, I am just asking for an opinion as I am completely new to Motorola section.
Kindly input here, I will be really grateful.
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Most of us prefer the stock rom. Moto did a great job not changing the UI or adding too much bloat. There really isn't much you can do to increase storage space. Once nice feature about the Moto X is that it supports USB OTG, so you can actually plug flash drives in and use them as storage with a USB OTG adapter.
I doubt custom roms will give you much if any extra storage space. If you want Active Display, etc to work, then it requires a Stock-based ROM. There really isn't much 'bloat' that the Devs can remove to increase space.
When you unlocked the BL and flashed TWRP, did you make a backup? If so, you could copy the backup to your PC and delete it from the phone to increase space a bit... Hopefully other users may have some suggestions for you.
Good Luck
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Most of us prefer the stock rom. Moto did a great job not changing the UI or adding too much bloat. There really isn't much you can do to increase storage space. Once nice feature about the Moto X is that it supports USB OTG, so you can actually plug flash drives in and use them as storage with a USB OTG adapter.
I doubt custom roms will give you much if any extra storage space. If you want Active Display, etc to work, then it requires a Stock-based ROM. There really isn't much 'bloat' that the Devs can remove to increase space.
When you unlocked the BL and flashed TWRP, did you make a backup? If so, you could copy the backup to your PC and delete it from the phone to increase space a bit... Hopefully other users may have some suggestions for you.
Good Luck
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Thanks for your response brother. Forgot about USB OTG adapter, don't have one, need to buy one. I can use my SanDisk 32 GB with it right? But the problem is, say if I am downloading a file in that memory card via USB OTG adapter, and I need to unplug the adapter for some reason, then can I replug the adapter and re-start the paused downloading file? Or will it be corrupted then?
No, I didn't make a backup, there is nothing to take backup of actually, as I just received the phone.
About the custom ROMs, I am not really interested in them either, always preferred Stock. If by flashing a custom ROM doesn't give me at least 1 GB more space then I won't flash it, no reason to flash for some small space increment.
PS : I think going for this would be better rather than buying an OTG adapter, don't you think? http://www.flipkart.com/sandisk-ultra-dual-16-gb-on-the-go-pendrive/p/itmdsxg4ysurgdg3
devilsdouble said:
Thanks for your response brother. Forgot about USB OTG adapter, don't have one, need to buy one. I can use my SanDisk 32 GB with it right? But the problem is, say if I am downloading a file in that memory card via USB OTG adapter, and I need to unplug the adapter for some reason, then can I replug the adapter and re-start the paused downloading file? Or will it be corrupted then?
No, I didn't make a backup, there is nothing to take backup of actually, as I just received the phone.
About the custom ROMs, I am not really interested in them either, always preferred Stock. If by flashing a custom ROM doesn't give me at least 1 GB more space then I won't flash it, no reason to flash for some small space increment.
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If you have to pause a download with USB OTG, it will likely be corrupted. Instead, put your completed downloads on the external card, and keep the internal memory freed up to use for current/pending downloads.
Many of the guides suggest making a backup after flashing TWRP. Basically this creates an image of the entire stock filesystem (should be around 1 GIG) and saves it to the internal memory. It isn't necessary to do this, because you can always SBF to stock even without a backup....but that is what I was referring to when I mentioned backup.
If storage is a huge issue for you, you may consider selling your 16GB model on Swappa, and buying the 32GB or the new 64GB version instead...
EDIT: Yes, I think the device you linked would be much more convenient than using a dongle/adapter and another flash drive/card.
samwathegreat said:
If you have to pause a download with USB OTG, it will likely be corrupted. Instead, put your completed downloads on the external card, and keep the internal memory freed up to use for current/pending downloads.
Many of the guides suggest making a backup after flashing TWRP. Basically this creates an image of the entire stock filesystem (should be around 1 GIG) and saves it to the internal memory. It isn't necessary to do this, because you can always SBF to stock even without a backup....but that is what I was referring to when I mentioned backup.
If storage is a huge issue for you, you may consider selling your 16GB model on Swappa, and buying the 32GB or the new 64GB version instead...
EDIT: Yes, I think the device you linked would be much more convenient than using a dongle/adapter and another flash drive/card.
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Thanks once again. I don't really wanna swap it with a 32 GB version and also I am not in the States, so that website is literally of no use to me.
By the way, just as I expected, I am heavily disliking the soft buttons, and especially that dark black background in the apps, really poor. Any way I can set the transparency level of the soft keys? I just wanna make the background a lot more transparent, like on the home-screen. I am rooted of course. Any app?
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Thanks once again. I don't really wanna swap it with a 32 GB version and also I am not in the States, so that website is literally of no use to me.
By the way, just as I expected, I am heavily disliking the soft buttons, and especially that dark black background in the apps, really poor. Any way I can set the transparency level of the soft keys? I just wanna make the background a lot more transparent, like on the home-screen. I am rooted of course. Any app?
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There may be an Xposed module for that, but I don't have any experience with it. Find the Xposed thread for tips on installing, and give it a try. "GravityBox KK" module is a favorite around here.
devilsdouble said:
Thanks once again. I don't really wanna swap it with a 32 GB version and also I am not in the States, so that website is literally of no use to me.
By the way, just as I expected, I am heavily disliking the soft buttons, and especially that dark black background in the apps, really poor. Any way I can set the transparency level of the soft keys? I just wanna make the background a lot more transparent, like on the home-screen. I am rooted of course. Any app?
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for the soft keys, you could get xposed installer and install something called tinted status bar and link the colors like mine
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for the soft keys, you could get xposed installer and install something called tinted status bar and link the colors like mineView attachment 2809225
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Yes, thanks. You can set a colour there, but not make it transparent. At least I don't see any transparency option in the app.
Have settled with GMD Auto Hide Soft Keys, if anyone knows a better app do tell.
By the way, I am disliking the default dialer too. What other options are there, a dialer with a clean UI, Tabs view?
Gravity box (xposed module) has pie control (also many non stock custom roms have it) and it's my favorite way of navigation. The controls are hidden until you gesture from the edge. After a while you get really quick at it and it becomes second nature. The added screen real estate can't be beat as well!
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I bought one of these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVT27CW/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_TZ6Ptb0WNQV28 a while back.
Great little drive and it's USB 3.0 compatible for fast transfers to and from your computer. It also comes in 16gb and 64gb flavors.
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I bought one of these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVT27CW/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_TZ6Ptb0WNQV28 a while back.
Great little drive and it's USB 3.0 compatible for fast transfers to and from your computer. It also comes in 16gb and 64gb flavors.
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I didn't know these even existed. Looks awesome!
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PS : I think going for this would be better rather than buying an OTG adapter, don't you think? http://www.flipkart.com/sandisk-ultra-dual-16-gb-on-the-go-pendrive/p/itmdsxg4ysurgdg3[/QUOTE]
Hi there....I would suggest you to go for transcend USB OTG drives as they are more compact and smaller and look perfect when used in MOTO X....u can find them in flipkart and they are available in gold and silver colours in 8,16,32 and 64 GB capacities:good::good:
suhasdutta said:
PS : I think going for this would be better rather than buying an OTG adapter, don't you think? http://www.flipkart.com/sandisk-ultra-dual-16-gb-on-the-go-pendrive/p/itmdsxg4ysurgdg3
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Hi there....I would suggest you to go for transcend USB OTG drives as they are more compact and smaller and look perfect when used in MOTO X....u can find them in flipkart and they are available in gold and silver colours in 8,16,32 and 64 GB capacities:good::good:
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Great to see you from here. The Transcend looks more premium and definitely a lot smaller than the SanDisk but I guess two years extra warranty of SanDisk has an edge. But I will just end up with the one which will give me better transfer rates and overall speed, none of them mention any speed details!
I will not get that Corsair, I will never buy another Corsair, but thanks for mentioning it anyway.
If you're looking to save space, consistently backup your pics/vids on picasa. You'll still be able to access them.
Also, once rooted, you can debloat those useless moto apps.
jco23 said:
If you're looking to save space, consistently backup your pics/vids on picasa. You'll still be able to access them.
Also, once rooted, you can debloat those useless moto apps.
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Also, Google + Photos will give you unlimited picture storage that can be accessed from any decor computer.
Check it out.
Hey guys... Just a quick question...
With the incoming Android L and stuff, I'm going to get a new mobile...
Planning any one BTW moto X and nexus 5...
Weighed everything and it is tearing me apart...
Finally came down to btw nexus's poor battery and
moto X's software support from google....
Kingly provide your suggestions and ideas Pls???
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And also, how much battery support do you people get with stock?
kishorsidu said:
Hey guys... Just a quick question...
With the incoming Android L and stuff, I'm going to get a new mobile...
Planning any one BTW moto X and nexus 5...
Weighed everything and it is tearing me apart...
Finally came down to btw nexus's poor battery and
moto X's software support from google....
Kingly provide your suggestions and ideas Pls???
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And also, how much battery support do you people get with stock?
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I got 30 hours total and 6 plus hours screen on time on my X....and get nearly the same on the N5.
Battery life is about setup and usage. If you set up right, make sacrifices of convenience features....you can get great times with either phone.
And watch what X you buy. RW, At&T and Verizon consumer models can't be bootloader unlocked...and no proper root because of it.
jco23 said:
If you're looking to save space, consistently backup your pics/vids on picasa. You'll still be able to access them.
Also, once rooted, you can debloat those useless moto apps.
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Where I live the upload speeds are awesome, so if only uploading stuffs were an option. Videos and photos aren't any problem anyway as I have a tendency to move them to my PC on a weekly basis.
And I have uninstalled that Moto Spotlight or whatever app that was which used to pop up a red hat and ask me to play some stupid game, that bugger alone was 200 mb! Don't know what other apps are there which will have no use for me, maybe the Moto Assist app....let's see.
kishorsidu said:
Hey guys... Just a quick question...
With the incoming Android L and stuff, I'm going to get a new mobile...
Planning any one BTW moto X and nexus 5...
Weighed everything and it is tearing me apart...
Finally came down to btw nexus's poor battery and
moto X's software support from google....
Kingly provide your suggestions and ideas Pls???
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And also, how much battery support do you people get with stock?
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I am getting just above 4 hours of screen on, WiFi on almost always, along with GPS and Active Display and Touchless control, mostly on Auto brightness. I am impressed with the battery life, slightly better than the S4 i9500 I had previously, definitely lower res screen taking the advantage here.
It was a no brainer for me between Nexus 5 and Moto X to be honest. With Nexus 5 you get better hardware, bigger and high res display, but it is pathetically built, the display is rubbish (no offence to IPS fans) and the call quality is nowhere near of X. If I were to get a big phone like N5 and make it even bigger with a protective case then I would have got the S4 GPE at almost same price if not less! But yeah, if you play intensive games and like big screen (size over quality) then get the N5.
By the way, I was playing a little bit of Flappy Bird today, and I notice there's some stuttering (very minimal but it's there), while on my Exynos S4 it was smooth as butter! Wondering what the reason could be
Another note....and the reason I gave my X to my wife and got the N5....development for the N5 is insane!!! 100's of ROMs. The X is best left stock with Xposed. But I got bored. Lol
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If flashing means nothing to you....then yeah, X is the way to go. ?
That's right. Nexus 5 is the ultimatum of custom stuffs, there is literally nothing which is not available for it.
I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.
No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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Temetka said:
No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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I know it's my decision to do or not .
Honestly , I think it became more a habit than a necessity for most users.
1. First reason
After many years of owning latest smartphones I know very well which application I cannot live without. So after using pathed versions - for a (long) test purpose - just bought them. So - no need to root from this point.
2. Second reason
Stock UI. Been trying many ROM's with good or bad results and realised that there are never ideal custom soft for your mobile. They caused always some kind of trouble. Maybe the reason is I'm getting older and have no time to dig into system, but lately I decided to stick to preinstalled firmware and as the only modification - to change unuseful Galaxy launcher on similar Galaxy one from Play store. So again - no root needed.
And yes - I got my Note4 rooted. There are two reasons I did this:
1. To get a possibility to add any application shortcut to the bar on the right side. I know I can jump between applications by using the task touch button on the left side but I love to use the bar on the right. Much easier for me.
2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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WL8789621 said:
2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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as far as I know Lollipop fixes the SD card Problems . Correct me if I am wrong
I'm still on Kit Kat. Was reading about SD on Lolipop and personally I think the new system SD storage improvement is dedicated to developers - not to us and our files whatever they are.
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I've rooted every android phone I have.. The note 3 took me about 8 months of non root use before I rooted to try custom ROMs.. They were great but not essential.
The note 4 running stock no root seems to be rock solid. Produces good enough performance to run anything with ease I chuck at it.. I like root apps. But deem non of them essential in my daily use of my phone. So in my opinion. This phone right now doesn't need root.
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Ive been rooting all my phones the xouple of years and tried allmost every rom. Now i have my note 4 since yesterday but i dont feel the need to root it. Its just fast the way it came with touchwiz. And for the first time i dont disturb the touchwiz it just works on this beast.
So in my opinion i shouldnt root it to make it faster.
Only thing is i cant greenify facebook becouse its a stock app. Does somebody know how i can greenify it ??
Yes
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Greenify? For battery life?
I'm gonna wait for lollipop, and then at least a few updates to that before I root.
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RoyLoy said:
I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.
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It depends on what you are doing with your phone. If you use mobile banking I recommend you DO NOT use root if so use as much protection as you can. With root you basically control anything - change design, control behavior of you device, control it's CPU and GPU, using different ROMs and more.
I've rooted my S4 and with awesome tools on XDA I was able to revert it and with USB jig make it totally unroot without any evidence of change.
It probably will be on Note 4 however Know could be problem.
I use root, I've SuperSU Pro and also I use Eset Antivirus. Mainly I use Xposed and fantastic X-Note ROM. Also what I love about ROOT is backup - simpy in recovery like TWRP.
Anyway it still depends on you what you wanna do with your phone. You can live without it in stock but at least Android 4.4.4. in Note 4 with Stock ROM is pretty junk on RAM.
Just a personal preference. I specifically root all my devices for two main reasons.
1 adware programs
2 hotspot
Those 2 reasons usually are the only 2 for me. The warranty thing i feel like it doesnt matter for me. I use to keep the sprint insurance on my phones and if i had a prob i could just take it and and get a replacement or repair. Sprint hasnt ever told me they wouldnt fool with my phone because it was rooted. I just bring it in with stock software and most of them dont even know what root is. I swap around phones so much now i just dropped the insurance all together because i figured i was paying 130 dollars a year with the rate increase and i wasnt benefiting from it. I hardly ever use any kind of hotspot and sprint makes u pay 20 dollars extra a month. I dont think i use it enough to justify paying that. I can go 6 months easy without using it. Its just those few and far between cases where it comes in handy.
My 2 cents
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I didn't root my Note 1 or the Sony Z Ultra but I've been looking into rooting the Note 4 due to the phone interface being far too large for the size of the phone screen, the Z Ultra was correctly scaled to suit the larger screen so it made the Note 4 feel very cramped in comparison. I've used the adb trick I found on this forum to adjust the DPI without root which largely works well, it mucks up most of the Samsung applications which is fine as they can be replaced aside from the stock camera application which is meant to get the best out of the camera. The only solution seems to be to root it and set custom application specific dpi's although I'm not finding the misaligned camera screen too much of an issue.
John
The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android
donkon said:
The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android
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How will rooting help privacy?
I was lazy about rooting my Note 4 for a while but as soon as I did I realized I should not have waited as long as I did. There is some really solid, stable, streamlined ROMs available right now. The lag on stock is not as noticeable until you've rooted and installed a custom ROM. Now I can truly say the 4 is a beast.
touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.
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touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.
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LOL
jlczl said:
LOL
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No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.
daffie said:
No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.
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I think that's what most knowledgeable people do when setting up a new TW phone. The LOL is because that doesn't eliminate the lag that is there. There is so much discussion about this all over, I don't really want to start it all over again here.