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Worth Flashing Cyanogen Mod?

Hello everybody.
I ordered my Nexus One yesterday- It's shipping right now. Can't wait!
But, I'm curious if it's worth unlocking the bootloader and installing Cyanogen Mod when it arrives. I know that unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty, and installing CM might brick the phone if I do it wrong, but I've heard CM adds some pretty good features. (Apps on SDCard, extra Live Wallpaper features, etc.)
So, is it worth it? Would appreciate any advice.

The only thing that could brick your phone is the radio update not Cyanogen Mod. I wouldn't recommend doing it till 2 weeks - a month after having the phone and making sure it works well

Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?

christiankk said:
Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?
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I was just asking what general features and reasons to upgrade to it over the Stock ROM. But to answer your question, I don't have it yet, so I can't really say much, but I do browse the web, download stuff/apps, listen to music, play games, etc.

christiankk said:
Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?
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What about tethering, himem and other fixes??

faraz1992 said:
What about tethering, himem and other fixes??
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Yeah - what about them?
If OP finds it important, go for the ROM - otherwise don't.
Pretty easy, eh?

MillyBays said:
I was just asking what general features and reasons to upgrade to it over the Stock ROM. But to answer your question, I don't have it yet, so I can't really say much, but I do browse the web, download stuff/apps, listen to music, play games, etc.
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It is good that you play games, however - if you don't state your needs how on earth can we help you?
I am hungry - should I eat McDonalds or KFC?

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What about tethering, himem and other fixes??
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I do find tethering important, and other fixes would be a good thing. But high memory...I never heard that part about the ROM, how does it give you more memory? (I know I sound like a noob)

MillyBays said:
I do find tethering important, and other fixes would be a good thing. But high memory...I never heard that part about the ROM, how does it give you more memory? (I know I sound like a noob)
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I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.

christiankk said:
I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.
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I do plan on installing quite a few apps...so that might be useful.
Anything else?

christiankk said:
I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.
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Actually that's not true.
The himem kernal frees up RAM while apps are stored on the ROM. The only correlation is if you have a lot of apps running more RAM will be helpful (speed) , but it doesn't apply to storing them

look its up to you guys but from my experiences i well never look back
the stock was laggy compared to CM
some of the apps you can get such as
auto memory
cm updater
droid wall (awsomest app eva)
metamorph
shootme (ok its not the best but pretty cool lol)
N1 Flash light
apps to sd
there heaps more but its also CM mod
like he has put a way to wake up the phone with the trackerball
best thing ever
change songs while asleep by holding the volume button
all the updates that will be coming to the nexus one (such as flash)
so dont worry bout that

The only downside is the whole voided-warranty thing. If you don't mind that (I don't - I unlocked my bootloader on day 1 with the N1), you LOSE nothing. There isn't even a risk of bricking your phone - CM doesn't touch the bootlaoder or the recovery, so you can always reflash CM or flash something else.
Unlocking the bootloader (regardless of ROM choice) lets you use a hacked recovery, which gives you backup and selective wipe options - a must for playing with your phone.
CM's ROM gives you faster performance, a faster update cycle, plus tons of cool features: root access included, trackball wake, himem, dalvik cache in /cache (frees up lots of app space if you don't use apps2sd). Plus, pretty much all of the kernel developers out there (IntersectRaven, Ivan, Pershoot, etc.) use CM's source for their overclocking and undervolting (improving performance while improving battery life) experimentation.

Yes its worth flashing for higher mem and other little goodies that come with the ROM. Had my phone for barely a hour and rooted it. Now i use cm updater whenever i want to use a newer ROM and im good to go. CM updater made the reinstall process super easy.

MillyBays said:
Hello everybody.
I ordered my Nexus One yesterday- It's shipping right now. Can't wait!
But, I'm curious if it's worth unlocking the bootloader and installing Cyanogen Mod when it arrives. I know that unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty, and installing CM might brick the phone if I do it wrong, but I've heard CM adds some pretty good features. (Apps on SDCard, extra Live Wallpaper features, etc.)
So, is it worth it? Would appreciate any advice.
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Yes.
It is.
I have yet to see a thread where someone says "OMFG I VOIDED MY WARRANTY FOR THIS CRAP? I WANT STOCK NEXUS BACK!"
of course, maybe I missed it....

I love the ability to play FLAC files on my Nexus with the CM

[CONFUSION] W8 vs Micromax ninja 4.0

I want to change my w8 with micromax ninja 4.0(A87).
Do you think, it really worth so???
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Go for x8....dont buy galaxy y.....why y?
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Micromax A87
I just bought Micromax A87 around 3-4 days ago. It's pretty good for its price. 1 GHZ processor for that price is pretty astonishing. But, if you have a better budget, I suggest you go for something better. But, if your budget is low, this is the best for its price range. It's got good looks, 1 GHZ processor, good touch and works smooth so far.
Although, 2 things I'm worrying about is, its internal memory and its RAM. Its internal memory is 200 MB out of which about 180 MB is available, which I think for the heavy apps now, is not enough. But, again with the help of useful apps we can transfer a lot from internal to the external memory. So, it's not a very big problem. It's quite manageable I'd say.
Now, for my main worry. It's RAM. According to their website, it's RAM is 256 MB. But as seen on my device, in the "running services" section, I have a total of 110 MB RAM as shown in the bottom. I'm not sure if I'm wrong about the fact that the results displayed there are the fact about the RAM's size, but I'm assuming it to be that as I've checked with more friend's too. Their RAM shown there are matching. Now, if I'm getting 110 MB of RAM, I think I can say that the RAM may be 128 MB. But it is pretty less for phones nowadays. On top of that, the bloatware present takes upto 100 MB of the RAM, after which I'm left out with only 10 MB of RAM. So, I can't run many applications, and especially simultaneously.
I am planning to root it to remove bloatware and see if I can make the performance a little better. So, if someone can guide me through the rooting process for this specific phone, it would be really helpful. I know the rooting process but I just want to cross check it with an experienced guy because I don't want to brick my phone. And, also I'm going to call up their customer care to clarify why I'm getting such low RAM space even though they've stated much more on their website. I will post here, when I'm aware of what the problem is.
But, I still say that for the cost, it is really good and worth it. Depends on your budget. If it's low, then this is the best. And, I'm sure it can perform better than W8, if you're planning to shift, with a less budget.
*" If someone can guide me through the rooting process for this specific phone, it would be really helpful "*

Thanks for details guide aashish
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I check that phone specifications, there is no proximity sensor and accelerometer. Is it matter a lot for daily use phone??
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Welcome leecorp.
Actually, as per my usage till now, I've experienced the application of both accelerometer and proximity sensor. According to my knowledge, proximity sensor is the sensor which activates usually when we are in a call. The screen goes to sleep, when we get the phone near our face, so that our cheek or ear doesn't cause any interruption during call. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I've noticed this to be working with no problem at all. So, according to my knowledge of what it is, I would conclude that the proximity sensor is working fine. Now, for the acclerometer, according to me it's the sensor which detects the motion of the mobile in our hand. Like tilting or shaking, etc. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong. This is used many times while playing games. I've used an option in the settings which says "horizontal calibration", which uses the accelerometer to set the horizontal calibration. And, I also tried it and it works well. Also, I remember going through an option like, shake to change the song feature on the phone. I don't use it though. But, I remember seeing it. I can't tell you if it works but I think it does work as everything seen on this phone till now works. If you want me to check the working, I can do so and let you know. So, I think both the features that you're worrying about, works well. :good:
Also, just to update, I called the Micromax customer relations office and asked them about my RAM and Internal Memory. The figures I mentioned in my previous comment and quite wrong. My assumptions of the actual numbers were wrong. They told me that the RAM is 256 MB and that the OS takes a lot of it, leaving me with only 161 MB left. In which a lot goes to the preloaded apps leaving behind 35-50 MB of RAM space. But, if I root my phone and remove all the unwanted preloaded apps, I'm sure to gain much more space. Also, I'm planning to get a custom ROM for this, which is of smaller size than my OS now. So, by doing both I can gain a lot of RAM space.
And for the internal memory, they said that it is actually of 512 MB. Why we get very less space is because of the preloaded apps. Again, my solution is to root. Will remove as many as I can. It will give me much more space.
So, I hope this helped you gain more clarity about the phone.
Please help me get the rooting process for Micromax A87 ASAP. Any kind of help will be useful.

Hey
I just wanted to ask how's ninja 4s battery backup
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Well, it's really nice. I only charge in the night. I use wi-fi, mobile internet whenever I'm out, and many apps running. It comes down to 45-50%.
It actually depends on you're usage. It might come down a little more depending on your usage. If it's heavy I think it'll go down a little more. My usage is moderate i'd say.
On the whole it's not complainable.
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Can you pls share some screenshots of a87.
Officially corp via w8

Yes leecorp.
Sorry for the late reply. I will shortly send them. Won't be able to do it immediately. Exam time so away from everything. Please give me a little time if that's alright.
Hope you understand.
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And just post here what you exactly wanna see. It'll help me solve your purpose better.
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When you speak of ram and it's usage you really should read up on how Linux manages ram..
You are speaking from a windows users point of view i believe. Windows has a completely different (and bad) way of managing ram from Linux.
Linux will grab most of the available ram and use it wisely (makes it look like you have little ram left).
Doesn't mean your system will run less efficiently - quite the opposite in fact..

Oh thanks a lot CtrlAltDelIrl !
I will look into it. I will hopefully find something now which can make me a little happy about my RAM.
But, I'm still quite keen on rooting it, just to make the performance a bit better. I hope someone helps me get a proper rooting process for my Micromax A87. Please update here if you do.
Thanks a lot. You gave me a new vision now. My bad that I forgot to differentiate between Linux and Windows. I forgot to let go my Windows habits and practices.

Like this. Taken from es task manager
And any pic to check it's screen resolution. And ppi
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AshishRao said:
Oh thanks a lot CtrlAltDelIrl !
I will look into it. I will hopefully find something now which can make me a little happy about my RAM.
But, I'm still quite keen on rooting it, just to make the performance a bit better. I hope someone helps me get a proper rooting process for my Micromax A87. Please update here if you do.
Thanks a lot. You gave me a new vision now. My bad that I forgot to differentiate between Linux and Windows. I forgot to let go my Windows habits and practices.
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i to brought the a87 yesterday
if ur flash with cfw then plz include me toooo
i will also try and after rooting did u remove any app? if yes then plz list it here

Custom roms for Micromax a87
Guys I got my sis this phone..and i wanted to install a custom rom preferably ics...any suggestions to where I can find it..thank you in advance

Guys I am realy very confused should I buy nija3.5 or 4 please help me or suggest me a good phone to buy in this range
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Dear All,
I have started this thread:
Link
Kindly contribute, share and explain.
We can help and built a community like I have done for Karbonn & Spice mobiles.
Without help from all members its not possible.
Thanks for reading.

[Q] Can I root my Note 3 AT&T?

The model number is N900A. I did get my phone through AT&T. I've heard that there are some serious problems rooting and installed roms etc through AT&T and Verizon. The Note 3 is my first Android device and I would have to say I'm in love with this phone. What I'm not in love with are all these apps and other nonsense running in my background. I hear rooting and installing different roms can solve this. I have used Clean Master from the app store to clear cache and free up RAM, but moments later these same apps open right back up. The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps. I did put some music and bought one app to change the icons on my phone. When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
Other thoughts would be:
How much RAM will I free up by rooting(assuming of course it's possible)and installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel? I'm looking for simplicity. Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM, and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
I'm hoping some of this information helps someone help me. I'm currently running 4.3. I've also researched some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.

I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?

IcyRhythms said:
That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?
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if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone

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if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.

IcyRhythms said:
It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.
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turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above

jerrycoffman45 said:
turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above
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Thanks again
The Kingo Root seems very simple. Think I'll do that and then maybe look into some roms.

jerrycoffman45 said:
if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone
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You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.

Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?

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You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.
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thats it auto correct got me

IcyRhythms said:
Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?
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You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.

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You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.
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Any word on if/when that will be a possibility?

Also, meant to ask earlier(it's also a little too late since I've already done it)does using Kingo Root disable Samsung/AT&T updates like KitKat?(still blows me away that KitKat has yet to release for this phone on AT&T)

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The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps.
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Nothing to do with RAM. RAM is where apps run. When you install an app it gets installed to storage (think of storage like the hard drive on a desktop computer).
When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
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In Windows, the more free RAM you have, the better. In Android, any unused RAM is wasted RAM. As soon as you free up some RAM, Android's memory manager is going to load something in the newly freed space. RAM cleaning programs are a waste of battery, a waste of time (both yours and the computer's) and a waste of storage (the space they're stored in). Android has a great memory manager - let it do its thing.
How much RAM will I free up by rooting
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None. You'll be using storage to store su, busybox and SuperSU. Rooting has nothing to do with RAM.
installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel?
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Install Nova Launcher. It's an app, not a ROM, so there's no warranty issue, no bricking issue and it's a welcome change from the monkey-designed TouchWiz. (The old joke that if you sat a million monkeys at a million typewriters for a million years, eventually they'd have written all of Shakespeare's works? They'd also have written TouchWiz.)
Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM
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The amount of RAM an app uses is determined by the app, not by the ROM or the launcher (which is the "look" of the phone when you turn it on).
and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
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The stock ROM works, doesn't use that much storage (I collect apps like junkyard dogs collect fleas, and I have just a hair under 29GB of free internal storage - and a lot of junk apps I have to uninstall, because I just downloaded to help people. And as far as bugs go ... I haven't seen any in general (I had to return 2 Note 3s and one of the ones I have now, which is a refurb, may also have to go back - but that's all hardware issues). If you want looks you change launchers and lock screens. (And there's a lot you can do with the settings to make things look different.)
There's really only one reason to root - because you need (or really want) to run an app that needs root permissions.
There's really only one reason to run a different ROM - because it has features that you want that the stock ROM doesn't.
All the rest is experimentation, fun and watching geniuses (and there are a lot of them on xda) at work. But remember, rooting alone voids the warranty. ROMming not only voids the warranty, it can mess up your phone. Is it $700 worth of fun? That's for you to decide. Rooting (as long as you don't use root status to mess anything up) is safe. ROMming, not so much. Still fixable - in most cases - but the first time you're stuck in a boot loop, you'll panic longer than it takes to reflash the phone.
some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM
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If you run Kit Kat you'll free up some RAM, but the official update will be out soon anyway
and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
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Turn them off.
People are taking molehills and making Olympus Mons out of them. There are so many much simpler solutions to so many of the "problems" people want to "solve" by rooting or changing ROMs.
Oh, I forgot one other very important reason to root, and as a child of the 60s it should have been the first one to occur to me - sticking it to the man.

Thanks for all the help to those that responded. The last reply in particular would have been very helpful had a I not jumped the gun yesterday. I rooted my phone yesterday. DIDN'T try anything else like new themes/roms. Just rooted the phone. After about an hour the phone having issues. Freezing. Apps not opening. Then, I unrooted. Haven't had a freeze since, but the phone is still doing odd things it wasn't doing before. Apps appear to be taking longer open etc...I went to send a text message about an hour ago and when I clicked on the text to begin typing the big envelope icon covered the entire screen looking very pixelated. ugh....

About to go for a nexus 6 but some issues are keeping me from doing it

I've had pretty much every nexus device, but last year I decided to get myself an Iphone 6, but I really missed android, so I'm about to get the nexus 6 but some issues are keeping me from doing it, I've read quite a few reviews and I'm concerned about the following issues:
1. Why is the camera so slow to take pictures? You think it could improve in the future? That's probably the thing I like the most about the iphone 6, how good the pictures come and how the camera is blazing fast
2. Is it true that the device is slower than the nexus 5? Have updates improved this situation? My nexus 5 already stuttered with Lollipop, Ive read quite a few reports about the phone slowing down and lagging for no apparent reason (except for maybe the quadHD killing the cpu/gpu)
3. How true are the reports of screen burn in?
4. How do non google apps and icons look? I imagine pretty bad since facebook or instagram's icons haven't even been updated to take advantage of a 1080p screen
5. Is it true that the device has slow storage a step down from the nexus reading and writing speeds?
Thanks for your help

Chad_Petree said:
I've had pretty much every nexus device, but last year I decided to get myself an Iphone 6, but I really missed android, so I'm about to get the nexus 6 but some issues are keeping me from doing it, I've read quite a few reviews and I'm concerned about the following issues:
1. Why is the camera so slow to take pictures? You think it could improve in the future? That's probably the thing I like the most about the iphone 6, how good the pictures come and how the camera is blazing fast
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The actual act of taking a picture is fast, its just focusing that is slow. If you focus manually or fixed, it will take pictures amazingly fast.
2. Is it true that the device is slower than the nexus 5? Have updates improved this situation? My nexus 5 already stuttered with Lollipop, Ive read quite a few reports about the phone slowing down and lagging for no apparent reason (except for maybe the quadHD killing the cpu/gpu)
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Not at all true.
3. How true are the reports of screen burn in?
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Completely imaginary.
4. How do non google apps and icons look? I imagine pretty bad since facebook or instagram's icons haven't even been updated to take advantage of a 1080p screen
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Where are you coming up with these questions? The only icon I've seen that actually looks bad, is the one for my bank... and it looks bad on ANY screen. Screen resolution is not so tightly tied to "icons" -- bigger screen = more icons. Also, Nexus 5 was already a 1080p display. I also hardly consider this question to be meaningful. Who really cares what icons look like? The objective is to maximize USEFULNESS.
5. Is it true that the device has slow storage a step down from the nexus reading and writing speeds?
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No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.

doitright said:
The actual act of taking a picture is fast, its just focusing that is slow. If you focus manually or fixed, it will take pictures amazingly fast.
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I see, we will see if it changes with the 5.1" update, I remember the first big update for the nexus 5 did wonders for the camera
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Completely imaginary.
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http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/fix-screen-burns-your-nexus-6-other-amoled-device-0159397/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/burn-t2955765
doitright said:
Where are you coming up with these questions? The only icon I've seen that actually looks bad, is the one for my bank... and it looks bad on ANY screen. Screen resolution is not so tightly tied to "icons" -- bigger screen = more icons. Also, Nexus 5 was already a 1080p display. I also hardly consider this question to be meaningful. Who really cares what icons look like? The objective is to maximize USEFULNESS.
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I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
doitright said:
No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.
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I'm in agreement with @doitright. I can say nothing but good about this device. I do not have any of those issues nor know of any that do. As with any device though there are always some bad ones that an unlucky few receive. It does not make all of them bad just those. My phone is a beast. It outperforms the N5 by miles. Screen looks amazing. Icons to me look great I haven't come across a bad looking icon except that of my bank.... I guess banks hire poor developers idk. Storage is incredibly fast. Camera is fantastic. Fastest signal acquisition I've seen on any phone including GPS.
Eh. Entirely up to you what you want to do. I don't trust any reviews. I rather go with my own opinions/feelings on anything. You should too.

Chad_Petree said:
I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
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App icons are controlled by the dev. I've never seen a fuzzy one.

doitright said:
No. Flash storage is blazingly fast on this device, HOWEVER, the "default configuration" enables data partition encryption by force, which reduces the EFFECTIVE flash performance to nexus 5 level (which is still very good). Simple adjustment to a text file on the boot partition allows this to be disabled. It is also probable/possible that Google will be enabling hardware crypto on the next update.
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I'm awaiting this Thursday to grab one on VZ, coming from a Galaxy Nexus, anything I could get now would be a major update hardware wise, however the only exception I take is the last part of this, not trying so start anything, your other parts are spot on.
The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html
2 - they tweak the software encryption, which if you check the threads, opinions really vary here. if you need to irk the absolute most out if it for read write, then undo it. But plenty of others have chimed in saying it wasn't that big an increase, i believe it to be what you may be using on the device that makes the difference, more intensive apps may cause the SW process to bog down, but in all, it is still fast.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
Personally, if I grab the N6 this week, I plan on unlocking/rooting/removing VZ oem partition, but for the moment leaving encryption on, because 5.1 may drop in March, and then see how things are at that juncture.
It would be great if they could enable HW encryption, because we get that security and maintain read write offloaded from the CPU.
Lastly, I plan on trying to enjoy the thing, playing with it for at least an hour in store before taking it (you never know) because as most of us here are OC hehe, reading all the threads of issues before buying it is kinda a downer. I know I'm going to love it, having waited three years to update myself.

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The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
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That's what I was thinking about, would it be possible for them to get rid of the encryption with an OTA , I would think that one needs to factory reset your device

Chad_Petree said:
I see, we will see if it changes with the 5.1" update, I remember the first big update for the nexus 5 did wonders for the camera
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Focus is a PHYSICAL MOVEMENT of the lens. No update will change the amount of time it takes to move the lens.
http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/fix-screen-burns-your-nexus-6-other-amoled-device-0159397/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/burn-t2955765
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I congratulate you on finding a thread about an imaginary problem, and a "fix" for an imaginary problem.
There is a certain subset of people who will do anything, IMAGINE anything, to find a problem. Don't ask me why they are like that. Sucks to be them.
I'm sorry, I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm studying to become a designer and that kind of things really bother me , as far as I know if you don't update the resolution for the icons and increase the resolution of the display you end up with fuzzy icons
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You can't do anything to increase the fuzzyness of an image, unless you actually stretch it larger. I.e., if it takes the same physical space on the screen, then increasing the DPI on the screen won't cause it to become more fuzzy -- it just won't increase in SHARPNESS with the display. Google has specifications regarding the dimensions of the icons, and these specifications have always included a "much larger" image than what will actually display on the screen. The icons actually get scaled down to fit. So really, don't worry about it. If you find an application with a ugly/fuzzy icon, complain to the application vendor, because they're the ones who made an ugly icon, not the platform.
I just can't stress enough, that this is a silly point to use to avoid a device.
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I'm awaiting this Thursday to grab one on VZ, coming from a Galaxy Nexus, anything I could get now would be a major update hardware wise, however the only exception I take is the last part of this, not trying so start anything, your other parts are spot on.
The current speculation is that 5.1 may go backwards on forcing software encryption, but nothing is confirmed there, see last paragraph:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-1-in-march-heres-what-may-be-coming-18369666/
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I *absolutely promise you* that they WILL NOT eliminate the encryption requirement. Those "android one" devices are... really really cheap. It is likely that they don't force encryption simply because they are not up to the task.
If the Nexus 6 had the HW encryption on it, and I cant confirm it does, we're left with these options:
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I CAN confirm that it does. There is no question at all. It is part of all snapdragon SoC's since about S4.
1 - they do enable it, which begs why it wasn't in the first place. Current rumor is that the qualcomm drivers for that engine are not open source, therefore it is a no no on android:
http://androidheadlines.com/2014/11...ency-likely-due-missing-qualcomm-drivers.html
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There are two sides to the use of encryption hardware with qualcomm SoC's; the first is the "blobs", and the second is the integration with Android and the Linux kernel. Specifically, qualcomm's hardware crypto requires changes both to the kernel (which is under GPL), as well as VOLD (which is under APL).
Obviously, to include the kernel part, that kernel part MUST be provided as source. There is absolutely no option here.
VOLD is the part of Android responsible for mounting and managing disks. It is under the Apache license, which means that technically speaking, it can be distributed without including source, HOWEVER, this is a Nexus from Google, which means that they really can't ship a blob in place of VOLD. It has to be possible to build VOLD from AOSP.
So here is what was going on; at the time that Nexus 6 first shipped, Qualcomm HAD NOT made the source for Kernel or Vold available on CAF. That made it *impossible* for Google to include, since they would have to provide kernel code on request, and require that AOSP VOLD actually build and work.
QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!
And, in fact, there are a number of devices for which CM actually builds and includes hwcrypto *right now*.
2 - they tweak the software encryption, which if you check the threads, opinions really vary here. if you need to irk the absolute most out if it for read write, then undo it. But plenty of others have chimed in saying it wasn't that big an increase, i believe it to be what you may be using on the device that makes the difference, more intensive apps may cause the SW process to bog down, but in all, it is still fast.
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This isn't even a half solution, because even though it may seem to improve storage performance to an acceptable level, it has to nail the CPU while doing so.
3 - they disable it by default, which I wonder how that would be accomplished in an OTA, it would need to wipe the device I'm sure, but ...
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Technically possible, but I *promise* you, it won't happen.
4 - Lastly, if in fact they cant use the engine, or it wasn't included (doubtful, it has qualcomm in it) then you cant enable it by an OTA, end of that story.
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Most definitely CAN be used. No question about it.
Personally, if I grab the N6 this week, I plan on unlocking/rooting/removing VZ oem partition, but for the moment leaving encryption on, because 5.1 may drop in March, and then see how things are at that juncture.
It would be great if they could enable HW encryption, because we get that security and maintain read write offloaded from the CPU.
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You could disable crypto now, and let it encrypt when the update rolls around. Disabling forced-crypto does not prevent you from using crypto now or later.
Lastly, I plan on trying to enjoy the thing, playing with it for at least an hour in store before taking it (you never know) because as most of us here are OC hehe, reading all the threads of issues before buying it is kinda a downer. I know I'm going to love it, having waited three years to update myself.
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Keep in mind that the test unit in the store gets abused.

DIR,
Looked forward to your responses on my last post, and was not dissapointed, nice info there, especially "QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!"
so has anyone done a comparison between the hwcrypto'd CM versions and unencrypted yet?
Yeah, I know the store ones get abused, in the end it would be a N6 or a GS6 for me, and I just cannot go to touchwiz, no matter how toned down, I want pure android, and unlocking ability, etc. Kinda makes the choice or me hehehe.
Dammit VZ, if you just announce online ordering tomorrow ... grrr .....

doitright said:
Focus is a PHYSICAL MOVEMENT of the lens. No update will change the amount of time it takes to move the lens.
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Oh oh well, nothing is perfect
doitright said:
You could disable crypto now, and let it encrypt when the update rolls around. Disabling forced-crypto does not prevent you from using crypto now or later.
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What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?

Chad_Petree said:
Oh oh well, nothing is perfect
What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?
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I would guess deactivate to gain read/write speed increase now, if the update enables HW encryption then you would let it.
Oh, and that is the point - nothing is perfect, not the N6, nor the units that will come after it hehehe....

RW-1 said:
DIR,
Looked forward to your responses on my last post, and was not dissapointed, nice info there, especially "QUALCOMM HAS SINCE MADE THE SOURCE AVAILABLE!!!!"
so has anyone done a comparison between the hwcrypto'd CM versions and unencrypted yet?
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I said on *some* devices. I did not say that they were enabling it on Nexus 6.
Yeah, I know the store ones get abused, in the end it would be a N6 or a GS6 for me, and I just cannot go to touchwiz, no matter how toned down, I want pure android, and unlocking ability, etc. Kinda makes the choice or me hehehe.
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Yep, I'm totally with you on that. My last phone was a samsuck.... NEVER again. I spent WAY too many hundreds of hours on kernel and device tree maintenance to get and keep that thing working adequately on CM... then Omnirom (omni is waaaaaay nicer than CM). After a year of ownership of that thing, got the wife a Hammerhead (nexus 5), and its been just so easy to maintain. Literally all I ever did with her phone was add root, busybox, and xposed (to kill a couple of the google services wakelocks). This time around, I wanted the thing to just freaking work already!!!! Only downside is that its a bit *larger* than I would have liked.
Dammit VZ, if you just announce online ordering tomorrow ... grrr .....
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I don't think that you should buy from verizon, even if/when they sell it directly. It will likely be crippled and branded, at least to some extent. Buy it from tmobile or google play store, and all you need to do is throw your verizon sim card into it. I think I heard that sprint also does not molest it. Oh, it could also be purchased directly from motorola.
Just whatever you do, do NOT buy it from ATT. They DO molest and cripple it.
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Chad_Petree said:
What would be the point of deactivating to reactivate later?
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To gain RW performance NOW... DUH.

I'll be getting it from VZ, because I just don't have the spare $$$ to buy direct and place it on VZ.
ATT taught us that VZ will have to toss its bloat on the oem partition just like anyone else, so ... as far as branding, I think that may rub off like ATT's, but if not I plan on putting in a case anyway.
Now we have to wait another two weeks if the newest rumor is true ...

Only 2GB of RAM in Nexus 5? No problem! (great memory management)

In 2016 2GB of RAM in smartphones is nothing special, it's a minimum to get Android working good. Flagships have 4GB of RAM, OnePlus 3 even more. But... I'm so impressed how my Nexus 5 can handle apps running in background. I've been always satisfied with overall speed and memory management and now I can see it even more. Today I've made a completely clean flash with DARK ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/rom-dark-rom-t3368248 and I opened couple of my apps.
So I ran:
MAPS.ME
Chrome Dev with 1 website opened
Instagram
Twitter
Facebook Messenger
Play Store
Phone app
Youtube
Spotify
Weather Timeline
WhatsApp
Tapatalk
QuickPic v4.5.2
Settings app
After open of each app, of course, I tapped home button, not back button. I did not only open each app but I did navigate a little, for example in Youtube I ran a video and THEN I tapped home button. So every app was running 100%. And guess what... EVERY app stayed in memory, when I relaunched every app, I haven't any reload, every app was working exactly as after first run. And everything was 100% smooth and fast. I wash I had a good camera to record a video, but I will try to capture it in few days. But why would I lie? [emoji14] Every Nexus 5 user should believe me, I guess. Of course, probably custom ROM and kernel make a difference in compare to stock ROM. Also, each ROM can work better or worse. So what's your experience when it comes to memory management in our 3 YEARS OLD device? (sorry for my not perfect English)

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What part of my post do you not understand?

What's the point of it? I think that everyone who have a Nexus 5 knows it already.
But anyway, everybody is free to talk here. Thank you.

adrianocolvero said:
What's the point of it? I think that everyone who have a Nexus 5 knows it already.
But anyway, everybody is free to talk here. Thank you.
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And everyone who doesn't have a Nexus 5 doesn't know about it.

And who would be accessing the thead of a 3 year old phone, if not the few owners?

kicksilver said:
And who would be accessing the thead of a 3 year old phone, if not the few owners?
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Someone like me, who've owned the phone before, but had a different experience.

@OP
you are using stock kernel of dark rom?
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@OP
you are using stock kernel of dark rom?

TheKrates said:
@OP
you are using stock kernel of dark rom?
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@OP
you are using stock kernel of dark rom?
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Dark ROM has built-in TrueSight kernel and I'm using it.

iamterence said:
Someone like me, who've owned the phone before, but had a different experience.
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I'd say you're the exception of the exception.
Enviado de meu Nexus 5 usando Tapatalk

No need to fight guys. I'm still rocking my Nexus 5 CM 13 Snapshot + ElementalX Kernel. Smooth, fast, no problems, feels always like a new phone.

kicksilver said:
And who would be accessing the thead of a 3 year old phone, if not the few owners?
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Me, bought this phone last week

nach0x said:
Me, bought this phone last week
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So... You're an owner.
Enviado de meu Nexus 5 usando Tapatalk

The post is really good in my opinion im pretty sure it really depends on the ROM and not on every ROM that will work for example the CM13 was alot faster than dirty unicorns ( Im currently running ) but i really like the rom its just all about modding ( i enabled the gesture the omni switch and there is alot more ) [the phone is fully loaded in tasks but still abale to be really good phone without any freezes or lags
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nach0x said:
Me, bought this phone last week
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Hi im not sure why you bought the phone but i can recommend you a few thinks just to know
-Elemental X is a great kernel
works With CM DU and Stock (not caf)
____MODS______
there is a stereo mod for nexus ( you are going to use your phone call speaker as a normal one )
Extra smoth mod really good mod but it includes new video driver so beware you doesnt have to worry about installing it
Nexus Volume booster there is an app at the play store wich creates a custom zips for this and it actually working !
PHYSICAL MOD I CANT REALLY RECOMMEND YOU DOING THIS AND I NOT GIVING ANY WARRANTY i just took apart my phone (its not that simple be really of the battery don't bend it if you are trying to get it out ( recommend you not doing this ) when you removing the battery connector DON'T bend it too much or it may break OK and be really gentle with the antennas so what are you have to do it sound really simple just apply thermal paste ( it helped me alot for some reason my phone was really Thermal Throttling all the time ) take the primary mobo out you doesnt have to take out the little board above the primary one dont forget to disconnect the camera )
( there is a really good root toolkit it includes back ups lock and unlocks of the boot loader custom recoveries in other words all the good stuff just search in google "nexus root toolkit")
hear is a few tips from experienced nexus 5 user
[if that helped you don't be mad bro just press the thanks button ]:good:

This makes me so proud to be an owner of a such beautiful device. I see people selling it on second hand sites for almost nothing, I actually thing of grabbing another one, or two.
And recently Im more into trying to get my old phones work good(nexus 4 - cm 12.1 - works like a breeze, galaxy sIII MINI - cm 12.1 unofficial - very impressed about how I got it to work, galaxy s plus - gingerRevenge - still works quite good with lighter tasks. And I bet there are a lot more older phones that still works good today.
I tell u. People dont know how to apreciate good tehnology. Also I hate this marketing making u buy a new phone every year.

mtsimmer said:
The post is really good in my opinion im pretty sure it really depends on the ROM and not on every ROM that will work for example the CM13 was alot faster than dirty unicorns ( Im currently running ) but i really like the rom its just all about modding ( i enabled the gesture the omni switch and there is alot more ) [the phone is fully loaded in tasks but still abale to be really good phone without any freezes or lags
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Hi im not sure why you bought the phone but i can recommend you a few thinks just to know
-Elemental X is a great kernel
works With CM DU and Stock (not caf)
____MODS______
there is a stereo mod for nexus ( you are going to use your phone call speaker as a normal one )
Extra smoth mod really good mod but it includes new video driver so beware you doesnt have to worry about installing it
Nexus Volume booster there is an app at the play store wich creates a custom zips for this and it actually working !
PHYSICAL MOD I CANT REALLY RECOMMEND YOU DOING THIS AND I NOT GIVING ANY WARRANTY i just took apart my phone (its not that simple be really of the battery don't bend it if you are trying to get it out ( recommend you not doing this ) when you removing the battery connector DON'T bend it too much or it may break OK and be really gentle with the antennas so what are you have to do it sound really simple just apply thermal paste ( it helped me alot for some reason my phone was really Thermal Throttling all the time ) take the primary mobo out you doesnt have to take out the little board above the primary one dont forget to disconnect the camera )
( there is a really good root toolkit it includes back ups lock and unlocks of the boot loader custom recoveries in other words all the good stuff just search in google "nexus root toolkit")
hear is a few tips from experienced nexus 5 user
[if that helped you don't be mad bro just press the thanks button ]:good:
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Where can I find this extra smooth mode?
What is your CPUs temperatures with thermal paste on?

Lol guys why the hate? This thread made me appreciate my N5 a bit more, and saved my wallet.