Hello, I'm currently using a Motorola Defy, but I need a phone with a bigger screen, so I can edit documents, like word, excel, etc...reading PDF documents, browse on the web a little bit more comfortable, not gaming since I don't play a lot on the phone; that being said, would you recommed a Motorola Atrix HD to me? I was planning to make a BIG effort to get a Samsung Galaxy S3, but, checking on the specs of both, the screen is almost the same, the camera quality is almost the same, I know Motorola Atrix is 2 cores and Galaxy S3 is 4, but for my normal usage 2 cores is more than enough and the difference on the price is also a big plus.
I have being offered with a good deal for the Atrix HD, what do you say? take it or leave it? I would highly appreciate your comments, thank you.
EDIT: this device can be rooted? talking about Samsung Galaxy S3 and HTC One X, these can be rooted?
The latest HTC One X and the Motorola Atrix HD both share the fact they cannot be rooted. You have to get an older HTC One X if you plan on getting root/romming it. While I am not a big Sammy fan, they would be your best bet for rooting.
Well, rooting is important for me :S despite the fact that the phone is not able to be rooted so far...would you recommend it? thanks you!
Despite the non-rooting, I would say that the AHD is a top quality phone. Yes, the SGIII is more powerful machine, but for the $50 I paid for AHD and the $199 I would have paid for the SGIII, it is worth ever dollar.
Just inquiring to how the sg3 is a more powerful phone?
ATRIX HD feels like much more solid phone.
They both have the s4 processor, Same GPU, and the ATRIX HD has better resolution.
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davezaff said:
Just inquiring to how the sg3 is a more powerful phone?
ATRIX HD feels like much more solid phone.
They both have the s4 processor, Same GPU, and the ATRIX HD has better resolution.
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It has 2GB of memory, much better camera, and some of its NFC capabilities is superior, and its info says that it is compatible with the 64 GB sdcard unlike the AHD and the internal sdcard for GSIII is 16GB / 32GB and the AHD only has 8GB
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Just inquiring to how the sg3 is a more powerful phone?
ATRIX HD feels like much more solid phone.
They both have the s4 processor, Same GPU, and the ATRIX HD has better resolution.
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2 GB of ram goes a long way. I know there's a fair amount of wasted ram not being used, but it really does make a difference. The removable battery is a huge bonus and the amount of development on this phone is shockingly underwhelming compared to any variant of the Galaxy S3 (obviously, since global sales of that phone are now over 30 million units). That said, the Atrix HD is a fantastic phone for $49. While Touchwiz has a lot of cool features, Motoblur feels much more polished (in my opinion).
It basically comes down to what you're looking for in a phone. If it's a flagship handset that will be updated by the manufacturer for the duration of your contract and also has the most development of any phone not named Nexus, then the Galaxy S3 is the obvious choice. If you're looking for something a bit cheaper, don't care that it doesn't have all the latest features (pitiful internal storage, gross multi tasking, and no NFC come to mind) but for all intents and purposes does everything a Galaxy S3 can do, then the Atrix HD is a great choice. I like this phone a lot, especially at its price point. However, as soon as the Note 2 drops and doesn't cost ~$800, I'll be moving to that. This phone will never have the developer following that either Samsung phone will have and I won't be stuck for the duration of my contract with a phone that has reached its life expectancy 8 months into my contract.
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Gotcha....i suppose the sg3 does have a little edge on the ATRIX HD.
I just hate Samsung products.....but I definitely understand why people love em.
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Gotcha....i suppose the sg3 does have a little edge on the ATRIX HD.
I just hate Samsung products.....but I definitely understand why people love em.
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Not to mention the fact my notification LED seems to have bitten the dust already.
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Not to mention the fact my notification LED seems to have bitten the dust already.
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I'm stuck trying to decide which way to go also. My contract just went up but i'm not renewing until I see the new phones at the end of the year. But until then i'm gonna get something. So i've been checking out the atrix hd and one x. I found a good deal on both. 200 for a brand new in box ahd or 280 for a rooted mint condition one x. After playing with both at the at&t store, i'm leaning towards the ahd just because I like the interface better. I like the almost stock ics. But after reading through the forums i'm not so sure anymore. Not being able to save apps onto the sd card really sucks. I don't understand why motorola would do that. Other posts about dead pixels, gps/wifi issues, led notification, phone won't turn on, etc. I don't know if it's worth it anymore. Since i'm not buying from retail I won't be able to return/replace if I have any of these issues. I'm not too worried about root as i'm sure someone will figure that out eventually. I'm gonna buy one of these tomorrow, I just hope I get the right one.
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I'm stuck trying to decide which way to go also. My contract just went up but i'm not renewing until I see the new phones at the end of the year. But until then i'm gonna get something. So i've been checking out the atrix hd and one x. I found a good deal on both. 200 for a brand new in box ahd or 280 for a rooted mint condition one x. After playing with both at the at&t store, i'm leaning towards the ahd just because I like the interface better. I like the almost stock ics. But after reading through the forums i'm not so sure anymore. Not being able to save apps onto the sd card really sucks. I don't understand why motorola would do that. Other posts about dead pixels, gps/wifi issues, led notification, phone won't turn on, etc. I don't know if it's worth it anymore. Since i'm not buying from retail I won't be able to return/replace if I have any of these issues. I'm not too worried about root as i'm sure someone will figure that out eventually. I'm gonna buy one of these tomorrow, I just hope I get the right one.
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Having had both I would definitely go with the One X. The 16 gb of internal storage with no micro sd card slot is a real pain in the ass, but the better screen, camera, and form factor definitely make up for it.
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Having had both I would definitely go with the One X. The 16 gb of internal storage with no micro sd card slot is a real pain in the ass, but the better screen, camera, and form factor definitely make up for it.
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Honestly it's all really a matter of opinion. I personally would go with the Atrix HD simply because of the microSD card slot alone....internal storage can be EASILY filled up these days, whether it's music, videos, pictures, applications, and/or games. Having a 32 GB card in my Atrix certainly alleviates the storage issue. Also, the Atrix HD's camera isn't nearly as bad as some people would claim, and has only been further improved with the latest firmware update (particularly with noise and low light performance). As for the screen, both have lovely screens so it would be hard to go wrong with either.
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jsmizzle said:
I'm stuck trying to decide which way to go also. My contract just went up but i'm not renewing until I see the new phones at the end of the year. But until then i'm gonna get something. So i've been checking out the atrix hd and one x. I found a good deal on both. 200 for a brand new in box ahd or 280 for a rooted mint condition one x. After playing with both at the at&t store, i'm leaning towards the ahd just because I like the interface better. I like the almost stock ics. But after reading through the forums i'm not so sure anymore. Not being able to save apps onto the sd card really sucks. I don't understand why motorola would do that. Other posts about dead pixels, gps/wifi issues, led notification, phone won't turn on, etc. I don't know if it's worth it anymore. Since i'm not buying from retail I won't be able to return/replace if I have any of these issues. I'm not too worried about root as i'm sure someone will figure that out eventually. I'm gonna buy one of these tomorrow, I just hope I get the right one.
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It's a tough decision you have, but I would still go with the Atrix HD. The build quality on my phone has been fantastic and I have had no issues whatsoever with anything. As for not being able to save applications onto the SD card, that is not something that Motorola actually chose to do - rather, it was the choice that Google made when they designed Ice Cream Sandwich. You won't be able to save apps to external memory on the One X.
Also, root shouldn't be an issue for too long.
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Having had both I would definitely go with the One X. The 16 gb of internal storage with no micro sd card slot is a real pain in the ass, but the better screen, camera, and form factor definitely make up for it.
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My main gripe with the ahd is the fact that you can't save apps to the external sd card. WTF. No other phone does that. And they're slick about it too. There is no mention about that only that they have expandable memory as if they're better than one x non-expandable. At least the one x has double the space for apps. I bet there are a ton of returns because of that and unhappy customers hitting their app limit not knowing it can't save to the sd. Besides that, I really like the phone and I still might get it..lol
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Honestly it's all really a matter of opinion. I personally would go with the Atrix HD simply because of the microSD card slot alone....internal storage can be EASILY filled up these days, whether it's music, videos, pictures, applications, and/or games. Having a 32 GB card in my Atrix certainly alleviates the storage issue. Also, the Atrix HD's camera isn't nearly as bad as some people would claim, and has only been further improved with the latest firmware update (particularly with noise and low light performance). As for the screen, both have lovely screens so it would be hard to go wrong with either.
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It's a tough decision you have, but I would still go with the Atrix HD. The build quality on my phone has been fantastic and I have had no issues whatsoever with anything. As for not being able to save applications onto the SD card, that is not something that Motorola actually chose to do - rather, it was the choice that Google made when they designed Ice Cream Sandwich. You won't be able to save apps to external memory on the One X.
Also, root shouldn't be an issue for too long.
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I was under the impression Motorola made that decision. If not, WTF google! Even though the one x doesn't have expandable sd, you can use all of the 16gb internal for apps. I do like the build quality of the atrix better than the one x. I don't really care about the camera as that's not my thing. I'm just disappointed that i'll only have about 5gb available for apps. Let's just hope this thing gets rooted and this whole issue can be fixed with a new rom. Thanks for the inputs guys.. I still have a few hours to decide which to get. I'll post up my purchase later today.
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My main gripe with the ahd is the fact that you can't save apps to the external sd card. WTF. No other phone does that. And they're slick about it too. There is no mention about that only that they have expandable memory as if they're better than one x non-expandable. At least the one x has double the space for apps. I bet there are a ton of returns because of that and unhappy customers hitting their app limit not knowing it can't save to the sd. Besides that, I really like the phone and I still might get it..lol
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I was under the impression Motorola made that decision. If not, WTF google! Even though the one x doesn't have expandable sd, you can use all of the 16gb internal for apps. I do like the build quality of the atrix better than the one x. I don't really care about the camera as that's not my thing. I'm just disappointed that i'll only have about 5gb available for apps. Let's just hope this thing gets rooted and this whole issue can be fixed with a new rom. Thanks for the inputs guys.. I still have a few hours to decide which to get. I'll post up my purchase later today.
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Interested to see what decision you made.
Yes inquiring minds like to know.
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Finally got the phone.
Love it!! Runs so smoth and fast and display is just awesome!!:good::good:
Although I own a Atrix HD and love it. But, I probably would have passed the Atrix HD, if I knew the root is not gonna be available for this long. I'd rather get an HTC one where root is possile.
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Although I own a Atrix HD and love it. But, I probably would have passed the Atrix HD, if I knew the root is not gonna be available for this long. I'd rather get an HTC one where root is possile.
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Read this.
aaronwatrix2 said:
Read this.
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Until the root is available for the released firmware...
dcard2000 said:
Although I own a Atrix HD and love it. But, I probably would have passed the Atrix HD, if I knew the root is not gonna be available for this long. I'd rather get an HTC one where root is possile.
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Most One X's sold in the last two months are un-rootable. An OTA (2.20) in early august prevents rooting, which is required to unlock the boot loader (by spoofing a different device because the AT&T version is not supported), which is required to install custom recovery, to flash ROMs. If easy root and ROMs is your goal you want a Samsung device.
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keep my Bionic or return it for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus?
it looks like an awesome phone but without the SD card I'm not sure if you can root it and install a custom ROM.
does anyone know if you can, or how good of a development community past phones like this have had.
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yes you should
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yes you should
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My established bias against Samsung mobile products, in combination with the lack of an SD card slot or HDMI output, lead me to say "meh".
I do like me some vanilla Android, but the probability is high that the Bionic will have AOSP-flavored ICS by the middle of next year, while the Nexus... will still have a Samsung radio baseband.
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My established bias against Samsung mobile products, in combination with the lack of an SD card slot or HDMI output, lead me to say "meh".
I do like me some vanilla Android, but the probability is high that the Bionic will have AOSP-flavored ICS by the middle of next year, while the Nexus... will still have a Samsung radio baseband.
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You know what. I like you. I completely agree.
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I'm happier with my Bionic than I expected to be after yesterday. Given that right now, the Bionic is still the only phone out there with 48 (possible) GB of space and an extended battery, the bionic is still holding its own
what bias do you have against Samsung? talk me out of wanting this phone lol. can you instal a rom on a phone without an SD card?
also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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Keep the bionic it'll have ICS soon enough and you can flash custom roms without the sd card.
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also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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That's the SIM card slot. You don't need an SD card to install a custom ROM. But you do need one to keep your application backups in a safe place. An SD card gives you a lot of flexibility for moving multimedia on/off your phone. Could I live without it...yeah, there are plenty of work arounds. Would I want to live without it, no.
I think it comes down to how you want to use the phone. Personally I like the docks available for the Bionic. I have the car dock and the HD dock and they were some of the reasons I waited to get the Bionic over the Tbolt....and I really really like HTC.
What matters most to you when when you're looking at a phone? Screen size, color saturation, thinness, battery life? Make a list of those factors, then objectively rank each phone on those factors, tally up the score and voila, you've figured out which phone is best for you.
The bootloader in the nexus is unlocked already
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what bias do you have against Samsung? talk me out of wanting this phone lol. can you instal a rom on a phone without an SD card?
also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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In total, over the past year, I have used seven Galaxy S based phones, including a Captivate, two Fascinates, and four Droid Charges. I experienced:
Numerous and persistent issues with their radio software on every single phone, to the point where I would be missing texts and calls on a regular basis. Plus, the signal quality never matched phones I had with Qualcomm basebands, and the Charge in particular would lose 4g data (or data altogether) on an alarmingly regular basis. GPS issues that persisted on every phone- the Charge, as a whole, was the best, but it still took 30 seconds to lock with quarter-mile inaccuracies at times- compared to the Bionic or my old Incredible with 3-second pinpoint locks.
The other issue is with their customizations of Android, which are almost always unpolished and rushed. This won't be an issue on a Google Experience phone, but the radio issues alone are enough to put me off of buying Samsungs until they figure out they should be buying their basebands from Qualcomm like everyone else.
I'll wait for the Anandtech review and some in depth specs about who actually makes the hardware to make a final decision- there's a possibility that they are really doing things right with this phone- but I will take a lot of convincing.
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Numerous and persistent issues with their radio software on every single phone, to the point where I would be missing texts and calls on a regular basis. Plus, the signal quality never matched phones I had with Qualcomm basebands, and the Charge in particular would lose 4g data (or data altogether) on an alarmingly regular basis
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My Charge had these issues as well, as does my brother's, and my best friend's, and almost anyone I sell a Samsung phone to (I work in retail). I am a bit concerned with Samsung's baseband capabilities, but iirc with the Nexus series, the hardware is all Samsung and the software is all Google. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's always been my impression.
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what bias do you have against Samsung? talk me out of wanting this phone lol. can you instal a rom on a phone without an SD card?
also if you look at the pic of the galaxy nexus with the battery cover off the top right looks like an SD slot. but the specs don't say it.
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My bias is the same as the previous comments, Samsung and LG have horrible radios, Motorola has the best. The galaxy nexus isn't enough to get me to consider another pos Samsung phone, but if that note comes to Verizon I'd be tempted by that 5.3" screen.
Your asking if you should get a galaxy nexus or bionic. In a bionic forum? I have a bionic. But the nexus is a superior phone. HD AMOLED, bigger screen
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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I loled. Samsung makes sexy looking products for sure! If they work like they're supposed to , that's a different story. Also no external SD card = fail. Srsly ppl main thing this phone has over the bionic is just ICS. 200 mhz oh noes! HD super amoled 1280 x 720 yes it's a beautiful screen. But if I want to ohh ahh at graphics i'll watch **** on my 2 x 30 inch monitor setup at home . Lagfree camera cause I totally need to snap picture after picture on my phone 8). I'm sure the bionic can do it with the proper software derp. Ah Android always making people rage at their current device cause of minor hardware bumps. Hopefully ICS will set things right and fix what's really problematic, the software!
Display is garbage gen 1 just like I said.
http://tinyurl.com/3e59ffz
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Display is garbage gen 1 just like I said.
http://tinyurl.com/3e59ffz
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Wrong article G, but I know what you're talking about. The "minus" one?
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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Seriously??!! Why would you think that?
Based on every other smart phone I have dealt with at launch, the end users are typically beta testers.
Just wait; I predict that there will be plenty of Nexus issues for all.
RMD
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I'm considering getting the nexus and selling my bionic. With this huge launch of a phone I'm sure they worked out a lot of kinks and fixed their radio issues
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They never work out all the kinks. Thats why we have a development community. They usually work more kinks out than the manufacturers.
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Basically, i'm fed up with waiting around until "fixes" are released for the Nexus(web browser crashes, 720p ac3 .mkv video crashes, etc) & miss the Rezound i used to have. Someone though has offered me $300 cash + a Bionic for my Nexus. I'm tempted, but would like to know a few things first. I see the Bionic's been rooted, but what about switching out kernals/radios? Can you overclock the Bionic?
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Basically, i'm fed up with waiting around until "fixes" are released for the Nexus(web browser crashes, 720p ac3 .mkv video crashes, etc) & miss the Rezound i used to have. Someone though has offered me $300 cash + a Bionic for my Nexus. I'm tempted, but would like to know a few things first. I see the Bionic's been rooted, but what about switching out kernals/radios? Can you overclock the Bionic?
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not able to switch kernels at the moment, radios can be flashed but once you do it you risk being off the ota path since Moto wants to be *****es about it
you can overclock to 1.2 ghz, but it's not worth it imo since the gains aren't that noticeable
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not able to switch kernels at the moment, radios can be flashed but once you do it you risk being off the ota path since Moto wants to be *****es about it
you can overclock to 1.2 ghz, but it's not worth it imo since the gains aren't that noticeable
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hmm.. i guess you're right there. when i overclock this Nexus, it improves the 'benchmark scores' a bit but actual system performance doesn't seem to change at all. i think i'm gonna check out this dude's Bionic & make sure everything checks out ok(esn especially) & go from there.
Damn that's a good deal. I say do it.
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That is a damn good deal.
I have both devices and the Bionic is superior to the Gnex is many important ways, like radio performance and battery life, to name to big ones.
Then there is Webtop, which is a very cool and unique feature of Motorola devices.
ICS is very slick and the Gnex is a very enjoyable device to use but definitely suffers from some pretty severe issues and shortcomings.
Your buddy is nuts! That is a ridiculous deal and you could probably make money even reselling it.
cellzealot can attest to it - a lot of people have been testing long and hard, and he and P3 have summed up a lot of info from the forums and from personal testing to give a nearly bulletproof method of putting you back on the OTA upgrade path even if you decide to take a walk on the wild side.
I was *****ing and moaning 6 months ago about a locked bootloader, and then I started looking at the hardware - and I realized that this thing really is a diamond in the rough. Now, I couldn't be happier.
6 months from now when ICS is pushing to our phones, you're going to be amazed at the capabilities of this device.
Also, think about it - Motorola almost always has really good chips - and they developed the LTE chip in the BIONIC in house. I'm betting on that chip. And I think they are too, because if it turns into an eventual success, then they'll have a template on how to start developing other chips as well, and thereby have a nearly proprietary device within 10 years, is my guess.
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I have both devices and the Bionic is superior to the Gnex is many important ways, like radio performance and battery life, to name to big ones.
Then there is Webtop, which is a very cool and unique feature of Motorola devices.
ICS is very slick and the Gnex is a very enjoyable device to use but definitely suffers from some pretty severe issues and shortcomings.
Your buddy is nuts! That is a ridiculous deal and you could probably make money even reselling it.
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BTW, I'm quoting this post over at AF lol
I have a Galaxy Nexus and a Bionic...The bionic is my daily driver (I use the micro sim with an adapter so I can switch between the two.)
I was ready to throw my Bionic out the window a short while ago, but since I've been on a rooted .901 there is no going back to the nexus!
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Basically, i'm fed up with waiting around until "fixes" are released for the Nexus(web browser crashes, 720p ac3 .mkv video crashes, etc) & miss the Rezound i used to have. Someone though has offered me $300 cash + a Bionic for my Nexus. I'm tempted, but would like to know a few things first. I see the Bionic's been rooted, but what about switching out kernals/radios? Can you overclock the Bionic?
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I will personally take you a new Bionic with case and holster right now. Pm me <MOD EDIT>. Thanks
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Basically, i'm fed up with waiting around until "fixes" are released for the Nexus(web browser crashes, 720p ac3 .mkv video crashes, etc) & miss the Rezound i used to have. Someone though has offered me $300 cash + a Bionic for my Nexus. I'm tempted, but would like to know a few things first. I see the Bionic's been rooted, but what about switching out kernals/radios? Can you overclock the Bionic?
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That sounds like one hell of a deal, I'd go for it. The full 5.5.893 stock restore fastboot files just leaked so restoring is no problem, I just used it myself.
I've been dealing with the Android OS battery life drain bug ever since I applied the last update and I'm hopeful reflashing the stock image fixed it but otherwise I love my Bionic and it'll only get better once the ICS update becomes available.
What you mean I didn't know the galaxy nexus uses a micro sim card
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I have a Galaxy Nexus and a Bionic...The bionic is my daily driver (I use the micro sim with an adapter so I can switch between the two.)
I was ready to throw my Bionic out the window a short while ago, but since I've been on a rooted .901 there is no going back to the nexus!
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What you mean I didn't know the galaxy nexus uses a micro sim card
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He said hes got an adapter....
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The Galaxy Nexus does use a micro SIM...you need the adapter to put the microSIM back into the Bionic. I cut my Bionic SIM down to fit the Gnex and cut another old SIM to be an adapter to use in the Bionic. Works great.
All new lte phones will be micro sim
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/04/motorola-atrix-hd/?m=false
Havent seen a post either here or the atrix 2 forum about it, so cheers!
No fingerprint reader?
Looks like shiit and has shiit specs to begin with. It has lower battery capacity than the original atrix which is unacceptable.
Only .5 Ghz (no extra core) more then original stuff plus little more pixels and no finger print reader. i only have two words for Motorola "Middle Finger" cos they probibally wont even unlock the boot loader hack they are trying to block the boot loader on existing phones.
Meh.. same old tricks again.
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Only .5 Ghz (no extra core) more then original stuff plus little more pixels and no finger print reader. i only have two words for Motorola "Middle Finger" cos they probibally wont even unlock the boot loader hack they are trying to block the boot loader on existing phones.
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.5 Dang, 1.5? Way better than many phones
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Doesn't look like the battery can be removed. Minor CPU bump, same amount of ram... only noticeable improvement here is the screen.
Tegra?
I thought that was a hardware key down there, too bad it was just a carrier wart.
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I'm sorry. It just doesn't scream "upgrade".
Atrix is a line of webtop supporting devices, processor/ram specs should be top priority and it already seems outdated with S3 having quad core and 2gb ram.
I can live with 2 powerful cores, but the phone is just screaming for a ram upgrade.
As a big fan of the original Atrix, I can't be any more disappointed with the 2 sequels.
AtrixHd fails for me for no fingerprint unlock button, only 1GB of RAM, low battery that appears non-removable (if you want to "look" like the RAZR Maxx then use their freakin battery), locked bootloader, and it only has HALF the internal storage as our phone.
Atrix HD has nothing that I want. Even the "updated screen" is just gonna kill the battery.
It's a shame that the OG Atrix>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Atrix HD>Atrix2...
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I'm struggling to decide whether this new Atrix HD is simply unimpressive or really unimpressive.
The dual-core thing isn't necessarily too much of a problem - hopefully it is Qualcomm Krait-based in which case, performance would be on a par with a quad-core A9. The smaller battery (in comparison to the original Atrix) doesn't exactly sound like a great idea, especially as the phone has a large HD display and is packing LTE...
I thought I had read somewhere recently that Motorola wasn't going to abandon fingerprint-scanners in high-end phones? Doesn't appear to be the case at present.
pre installed with ICS? I guess it will take more than 1 year to upgrade to Jelly Bean. Lol..
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/MOTOROLA-ATRIX%E2%84%A2-HD/MB886-ATRIX-HD,en_US,pd.html
This is in my opinion another downgrade from the Atrix 4G, just like the Atrix 2!
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Maringer said:
I thought I had read somewhere recently that Motorola wasn't going to abandon fingerprint-scanners in high-end phones? Doesn't appear to be the case at present.
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Apparently according to Briefmobile, Motorola uses model numbers in the 900's for "high end" phones. This puts all the Atrix models in the "medium" bracket.
http://briefmobile.com/atrix-hd-shows-up-on-motorolas-website-with-a-4-5-inch-hd-display?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+briefmobile+%28BriefMobile%29&utm_content=FaceBook
Its a good looking phone with pretty good specs, it will do good.
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I don't see any logical reason to upgrade to this piece of **** from my original atrix.
I almost forgot to add that the at&t logo looks like sheep poo.
So its compatible with the lapdock 100, so i would be interested to know if its compatible with the 500 with the ethernet, video out and sd card reader. That would at least give it something over the original atrix.
The atrix line is basically there for people who uses at&t and want webtop.
Yes, if you don't live in the US. You better avoid Motorola. Lol..
Internal 8gb?
So my Atrix 4G has 16gb internal & this has 8Gb not much of an upgrade really, might be better camera, but now looks like I will be leaving Motorola??
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So my Atrix 4G has 16gb internal & this has 8Gb not much of an upgrade really, might be better camera, but now looks like I will be leaving Motorola??
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It is weird how they are moving backwards with the Atrix line. I'd love to have the 1.5ghz dual core and I'm a sucker for big screens. Why can't they make a phone with our Atrix specs...just updated hardware (faster CPU, more ram, screen..)
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Originally Sold on July 15, 2012 - http://bgr.com/2012/07/10/motorola-atrix-hd-release-date-pricing-att/
Discontinued on August 1st, 2013 - http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/motorola/atrix-hd-modern-white.html#fbid=1jrbRFjGCCb
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/MOTOROLA-ATRIX-HD/MB886-ATRIX-HD,en_US,pd.html
This device lasted just over a year before losing OTA support and being discontinued. How can we expect anything good to come of the Moto X after being screwed over like this on their AT&T Flagship device from last year? Stuck on 4.1.1 and severely insecure software. Such a shame.
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Originally Sold on July 15, 2012 - http://bgr.com/2012/07/10/motorola-atrix-hd-release-date-pricing-att/
Discontinued on August 1st, 2013 - http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/motorola/atrix-hd-modern-white.html#fbid=1jrbRFjGCCb
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/MOTOROLA-ATRIX-HD/MB886-ATRIX-HD,en_US,pd.html
This device lasted just over a year before losing OTA support and being discontinued. How can we expect anything good to come of the Moto X after being screwed over like this on their AT&T Flagship device from last year? Stuck on 4.1.1 and severely insecure software. Such a shame.
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It's to be expected. Motorola wants every Motorola fanboy to purchase the Moto X. Because they figure if they continue to update the HD to 4.2, then a lot of people wouldn't have the incentive to upgrade, because they'll have the features of the Moto X on an old flagship phone.
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I'm surprised it lasted that long. They never took advantage of the potential it had and has.
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Is it for sure we won't get moto x software update? Let's have a mustard seed of faith here guys
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Coincidentally, it has officially become part of cyanogenmod, along with the rest of the MSM8960 family:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Mb886_Info
I'm not really that surprised at this. Hate to say it, but X isn't anything special. I watched the Moto Maker video showing the customizations and its nothing more than colors, a boot logo, and storage size. Looking at the specs, all the new Moto Phones are the same other than screen size and available memory. Atrix HD might be a year older, but its almost the same phone as these. They have more ram and better on board graphics -- I just don't know if that justifies losing my SD card.
The new X makes me sad. I was expecting something a bit more than an updated Atrix\RAZR HD. I think we're better off just getting the Maxx Battery over the new X or Droid Series Phones. The NO SD CARD AT ALL is why I won't be getting one.
I lol'd at the prices. Maxx is $100 more, has 32GB over the Ultra's 16GB and a bigger battery -- that's it and somehow that justifies a $100 price increase. Now I'm wondering if we'll see X/Droid Maxx mod posts because of that.
This news sucks but looking from a different perspective, all flagship phones only last for 1 year: S3 from Samsung, Xperia S from Sony, and OneX from HTC. In the current situation where all the old flagship phones are strong enough to run smoothly Android 4.3 or even 5, if they continue to update the phone with newer software version, no one would buy the new flagship phones.
Great, I doubt I will be able to sell my Atrix HD now.
This is really sick,
I did not expect Moto to leave us before 4.2.2 update...
@skeevydude true that, even I was expecting a lot more from Moto-X but it didn't came up through.... I though we will be able to customize it in sense of ram,screen,battery,processory... but its very unlikely to customize jus the uppershell :/
Meanwhile its good to see official CM support.
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I'm not really that surprised at this. Hate to say it, but X isn't anything special. I watched the Moto Maker video showing the customizations and its nothing more than colors, a boot logo, and storage size. Looking at the specs, all the new Moto Phones are the same other than screen size and available memory. Atrix HD might be a year older, but its almost the same phone as these. They have more ram and better on board graphics -- I just don't know if that justifies losing my SD card.
The new X makes me sad. I was expecting something a bit more than an updated Atrix\RAZR HD. I think we're better off just getting the Maxx Battery over the new X or Droid Series Phones. The NO SD CARD AT ALL is why I won't be getting one.
I lol'd at the prices. Maxx is $100 more, has 32GB over the Ultra's 16GB and a bigger battery -- that's it and somehow that justifies a $100 price increase. Now I'm wondering if we'll see X/Droid Maxx mod posts because of that.
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I was reading that Google is trying to push to have SD cards removed. Something about trying to increase the speed of boot time.
Although, I would guess its so they can sell you a 32gb phone for $75 more than the 16gb version.
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This is really sick,
I did not expect Moto to leave us before 4.2.2 update...
@skeevydude true that, even I was expecting a lot more from Moto-X but it didn't came up through.... I though we will be able to customize it in sense of ram,screen,battery,processory... but its very unlikely to customize jus the uppershell :/
Meanwhile its good to see official CM support.
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My assumption was we'd get 4.2.2 as our last update and the new phones coming out would be 4.3. Wonder if we're not getting 4.2.2 to screw with the Dev Team
The customizations they offer for the X I can do myself. I have multiple paint sprayers, Dremmels, and an engraving tool -- not everyone has that, but we all have access to spray paint made for whatever material needs spraying.
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I was reading that Google is trying to push to have SD cards removed. Something about trying to increase the speed of boot time.
Although, I would guess its so they can sell you a 32gb phone for $75 more than the 16gb version.
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I'll buy boot time....but I've always figured it was because the sd card can be a pita from a rom management perspective -- will it be used as swap, sd-ext, like normal with music and such, internal/external hacks, and so on. Because of that, I assume Google wants us to use mini-usb flash drives. Whatever the reason is ($$$ for the upgraded storage model), I like my sd card for my phone -- don't always have access to the net to stream or can because of data plan limitations/caps/quotas.
Has anyone else noticed that the X and new Droids have the same specs as the new Nexus 7.2 Tablet?
I think once a device is "dead" or at least out of warranty, the manufactures should be required to allow you to unlock them. ( I realize we are unlocked now) but my older Droid X and X2 are still locked.
yeah, SD cards are kinda deal breaker for me, I am assuming its going to get harder and harder to get a phone with one.
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This news sucks but looking from a different perspective, all flagship phones only last for 1 year: S3 from Samsung, Xperia S from Sony, and OneX from HTC. In the current situation where all the old flagship phones are strong enough to run smoothly Android 4.3 or even 5, if they continue to update the phone with newer software version, no one would buy the new flagship phones.
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I know at least Samsung is good about updating their phones. They just updated the S2 Plus to 4.2.2 and according to what I've read they're skipping 4.2.2 for the S3 and Note II and going straight to 4.3. Sony is hit or miss and HTC is just plain bad. How long did it take the thunderbolt to get the promised ICS update? 18 months?
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My assumption was we'd get 4.2.2 as our last update and the new phones coming out would be 4.3. Wonder if we're not getting 4.2.2 to screw with the Dev Team
The customizations they offer for the X I can do myself. I have multiple paint sprayers, Dremmels, and an engraving tool -- not everyone has that, but we all have access to spray paint made for whatever material needs spraying.
I'll buy boot time....but I've always figured it was because the sd card can be a pita from a rom management perspective -- will it be used as swap, sd-ext, like normal with music and such, internal/external hacks, and so on. Because of that, I assume Google wants us to use mini-usb flash drives. Whatever the reason is ($$$ for the upgraded storage model), I like my sd card for my phone -- don't always have access to the net to stream or can because of data plan limitations/caps/quotas.
Has anyone else noticed that the X and new Droids have the same specs as the new Nexus 7.2 Tablet?
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They want you to use cloud services.
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I think once a device is "dead" or at least out of warranty, the manufactures should be required to allow you to unlock them. ( I realize we are unlocked now) but my older Droid X and X2 are still locked.
yeah, SD cards are kinda deal breaker for me, I am assuming its going to get harder and harder to get a phone with one.
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Where would you go with a unlocked CDMA phone and a Verizon one at that? What carrier would activate it?
This really sucks big time... I guess I made the right decision yesterday when a guy offered me a mint nexus 4 for 200... I looked at my sweet sexy white and black Atrix and said sorry baby 4.3 is already ready already... Plus I had a n4 when they first came out only for a week when I lost at strip club... Sucks to loose my SD card but 16gb internal makes up... Sucks to loose lte tmo is blazing in south Florida but I get partial lte with a mod they found... Plus development, well its a nexus that speaks for itself... Ahd is great and in keeping for a lil as backup but I also have atrix 4g with webtop... So I'm going to hold to ahd for a lil but I missed the nexus... And to me screen is much better and pictures come out nicer... Skeevy Timpo youngunn epinter you are all the **** and without all of you a great phone would have no glory... It was fun...
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as for sd cards, i have no problem with them being eliminated as long as they get rid of low storage option devices. like 8 gb... ridiculous. make it 32, 64 gb for storage options. that more than enough and simple, no sd cards needed.
as for the dead device, i thought we would at least get 4.2, but we will just use the firmware from the moto x. same thing with some hackery we can use it. not surprising though. next phone will probably be an Oppo or Sammy.
How do we know Motorola has discontinued OTA support?
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This phone may be discontinued but it sure isn't dead thanks to all the great developers!!! I was told at att the other day this is discontinued cause the atrix HD 2 was coming out. Probably an Atrix HD maxx
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How do we know Motorola has discontinued OTA support?
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We haven't even seen an exploit patch since November 2012, while the RAZR HD/RAZR M have received at least 2 updates since then, upgrading them to 4.1.2 and patching potentially hamrful exploits. You have to work quite hard to find this phone on AT&T and Motorola's websites, they won't spend time to update it IMO.
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I am. I have high hopes for it. Whether or not it gets good support like the AHD is TBD. Hopefully it at least gets ROOT
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I'd consider getting it second hand in 6 months + if it had SD support. For me, spec wise, AHD is all I really need in a phone. Next phone I get will be something like an AHD with a keyboard.
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I've noticed that as smart phones became better and better, the amount of phones with keyboards decreased. Me thinks they don't make many now-a-days because most people wouldn't have a need for a netbook or a laptop if a phone as powerful and big as the AHD had a keyboard.
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I'd consider getting it second hand in 6 months + if it had SD support. For me, spec wise, AHD is all I really need in a phone. Next phone I get will be something like an AHD with a keyboard.
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I've noticed that as smart phones became better and better, the amount of phones with keyboards decreased. Me thinks they don't make many now-a-days because most people wouldn't have a need for a netbook or a laptop if a phone as powerful and big as the AHD had a keyboard.
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I completely agree about the SD slot.
Also, the Photon Q is kinda like an AHD with a keyboard.
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I'd consider getting it second hand in 6 months + if it had SD support. For me, spec wise, AHD is all I really need in a phone.
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What are your thoughts about support and development for the moto x? I wonder if root will be easily obtained...
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Definitely will not purchase Motorola X. While Motorola phones Have very good build quality. I believe the hardware to be subpar compared to samsung and htc. The motoblur Interface on Atrix HD is a big improvement over that of Atrix 4g. which is a big step in the right direction . However Motorola has with both phones shown that it does not support updates as well as its competitors. for example atrix 4g support ended at android 2.3.6 and atrix Hd support ended at android 4.1.1. Add to this that Motorola Locks Bootloaders Making customization difficult . NO THANKS!
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What are your thoughts about support and development for the moto x? I wonder if root will be easily obtained...
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Depends on the bootloader status. If unlockable, then it will pick up really fast...if not, probably similar to us or the Defy -- depends on how easy it will be to root. Even locked, if its rooted there's a good chance it'll run ports of our roms.
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Definitely will not purchase Motorola X. While Motorola phones Have very good build quality. I believe the hardware to be subpar compared to samsung and htc. The motoblur Interface on Atrix HD is a big improvement over that of Atrix 4g. which is a big step in the right direction . However Motorola has with both phones shown that it does not support updates as well as its competitors. for example atrix 4g support ended at android 2.3.6 and atrix Hd support ended at android 4.1.1. Add to this that Motorola Locks Bootloaders Making customization difficult . NO THANKS!
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Agreed. Though hardware is a moot point since most apps hardly support dual core, let alone quad and otca core phones. With Moto I don't even consider OEM support as a factor since I expect it to be next to nothing from the start. Moto releases OS updates as new devices.... My next phone will probably be HTC or Sony -- both have good OEM features, OEM support, and community support. I'm leaning towards Sony, only because I've never once bought a bad Sony product or had a Sony product break or go bad that wasn't directly related to me abusing the hell out of it.....usually because I drop them.
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Agreed. Though hardware is a moot point since most apps hardly support dual core, let alone quad and otca core phones. With Moto I don't even consider OEM support as a factor since I expect it to be next to nothing from the start. Moto releases OS updates as new devices.... My next phone will probably be HTC or Sony -- both have good OEM features, OEM support, and community support. I'm leaning towards Sony, only because I've never once bought a bad Sony product or had a Sony product break or go bad that wasn't directly related to me abusing the hell out of it.....usually because I drop them.
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Which Sony phone are you looking at getting?
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nokia lumia1020 and MOTO Droid Ultra mini，but the moto Droid Ultra is too expensive while the hardware is not the best。
I have to say the moto X is ugly。。。
I do not like the design，especially the earpieces and the microphone。
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Which Sony phone are you looking at getting?
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I dunno. Whatever Sony has next year that I can afford when I decide to upgrade the AHD.
I'm really interested in the Moto X. I like the look of some of the feature, notifications and active mic. My next upgrade is in Feb, so I'll make a decision at that time. However, I have heard rumor of a Moto Nexus coming (that was the leak rumor last week), if that is true, I may go for that off contract. I know everybody has different opinions on hardware and specs, but the Atrix HD is my 7th Moto phone (2nd android based), and outside of one poor flip phone, they have all been top notch.
I agree with skeevy theory...
as time pass,and android being better each by each year
The company's have been excluding sliding keyboards
I remember when the Samsung epic 4g came out I was thrilled to see a good phone for fast texting and typing emails
As I prefer a phone like the AHD with a sliding keyboard regardless of thickness of the phone
Not much of a big deal
Just like old non-android LG xenon
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Probably a Sony phone as long as they keep micro SD. That feature being implemented or not is very telling about a companies true understanding of it's users. I prefer companies that allow storage expansion.
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I would buy a moto X...I think what google is trying to prove is that one dont need high end spec'ed phone to get good phone experience. Moto X will be a good buy in 6 months...
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I would buy a moto X...I think what google is trying to prove is that one dont need high end spec'ed phone to get good phone experience. Moto X will be a good buy in 6 months...
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I've been up for a upgrade for a few months now. I'm going to take it and hope for some good development.
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I've been up for a upgrade for a few months now. I'm going to take it and hope for some good development.
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Provided you can unlock the X's boot loader, then it'll probably be on par with us in no time at all. If locked, it might run ports of our roms if it is rooted and a rom flash method like SafeStrap is made.
If I were considering getting one, I'd wait a week to a month to see what's up with it, its quirks, and how much the community will support it.
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Agreed. Though I think X is a mass beta program designed to test out new features for the Nexus line -- the low power cpu cores for always on microphone, the active display. Still, no SD = no Buy. As is, I haven't been able to use any cell radio internet for 3 weeks because I'm 50MB away from overage charges. Until phones either come with 64GB+ or the Phone Companies up the allotted bandwidth to at least 10GB a month, then external storage will still be necessary. The "Cloud" is useless with current Data Plans and 16-32GB isn't that much storage, especially once you start to consider Nandroids, Titanium Backups, music, a movie or three for a long trip, other roms, pictures, and the list goes on and on.
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the Atrix HD is my 7th Moto phone (2nd android based), and outside of one poor flip phone, they have all been top notch.
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my 6th moto (cliq, q9h, v80, slvr, c139 prior) and I too agree with build quality, up there with Nokia for me.
I've also owned about 4 blackberry devices before going android and the build quality and reliability was anywhere from terrible to average.
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Still, no SD = no Buy.
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Vote with your dollar! My feelings exactly. I give Samsung their props for continuing support for SDs and giving consumers what they want (incl. removable battery) Seems like everyone these days is going the other route.
Locked storage capacity + free cloud storage, it's all "politics" from my POV really and I'm not going to support it.
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@ai6908
Agreed. Though I think X is a mass beta program designed to test out new features for the Nexus line -- the low power cpu cores for always on microphone, the active display. Still, no SD = no Buy. As is, I haven't been able to use any cell radio internet for 3 weeks because I'm 50MB away from overage charges. Until phones either come with 64GB+ or the Phone Companies up the allotted bandwidth to at least 10GB a month, then external storage will still be necessary. The "Cloud" is useless with current Data Plans and 16-32GB isn't that much storage, especially once you start to consider Nandroids, Titanium Backups, music, a movie or three for a long trip, other roms, pictures, and the list goes on and on.
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I agree that no SD is a big drawback...but cloud is one of the reason why google phones do not have SD. Only nexus 1 was the only nexus phone with a SD card i think! Well,,,thats the way google goes....i dont know if we have any say to it...unless samsung comes up with its own OS...
I was hopeful for the motorola x but after looking the specs and the fact that doesn't have a external SD I am thinking the Sony honami is my next phone.
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I was hopeful for the motorola x but after looking the specs and the fact that doesn't have a external SD I am thinking the Sony honami is my next phone.
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I try to not get too caught up in the spec war. Look at crapple.....as much as it pains me to say this, they have low specs but they do an excellent job with optimization. So well that they can keep up with some of the new flagship phones.
I think the motoX will deliver a great user experience. And that's what it's all about. I'm not too fond of the no SD card.
I'll still be getting the 32gb model.
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