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Weird Battery Issue

Ok in short my battery is not charging at all. I have had this kaiser for a month mayb, but the battery for almost a year. I we away for the weekend and forgot my charger so my phone died. I plug into charger and charging light comes on but when i try and turn it on phone boots then dies as it has no power from cable or battery.
Phone is COMPLETELY stock + tf2d.
AT&T Tilt
Any ideas anyone?

I just updated my phone (even tho it has no battery...). So right i went into bootloader and flashed the offical rom, it died at 13% then retarted and finished flashing....idk if it was supposted to do that or not idk. but now it boots and does the samething as if it has no battery...idk what the deal is .
The battery is heating up like its charging...
It remained updating from 13%-100% and didnt die but i dont think it can charge while updating..but after updating when installing it dies as soon as it gets to "clearing storage"

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i believe i have a mechanical issue now not a battery issue. This is because even tho it says its charging the battery the phone SHOULD be able to boot under power cable only without battery....but it does not....seems i shall be calling at&t....

jug6ernaut said:
This is because even tho it says its charging the battery the phone SHOULD be able to boot under power cable only without battery....but it does not....
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Nope, HTC phones and most others can't boot just off the power cable with no battery.
I just updated my phone (even tho it has no battery...).
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If you had read the warnings in the flashing application you'd have seen it says to ensure your battery is charged before flashing. If your battery is flat and the phone turns off during flash (which looks like it has happened here) it leaves you with an incomplete flash and unusable OS, no wonder it crashes randomly. If you have HardSPL you can recover from that, but as you said you're completely stock it might be a lot more problematic.

lol no no my friend you miss understand what im saying.
Trust me i know the warnings of flashing(300+ flashes many failed...happens when making ur own roms), and knowing these i flashed anyways. What i was trying to point out was that it went through the flash all the way even tho during the same amount of time it would have died during booting, the flash was successful but idky.
The phone is not crashing randomly it has no battery power lol. This problem has nothing to do with flashing because before this it was 100% stock...
Are you sure the kaiser can not boot purly off external power? I was almost positive i had done this before.

Phone wont keeps restarting, wont even go into cwm/hboot

whenever my has battery died, i plugged it into the charger and every time i plugged it in recovery has opened up. However, today i plugged it in and it wouldnt charge at all and so i tried to reinstall my rom and now it wont even start up. The battery is completely dead and every time i plug it in to charge, the orange light comes on, goes away and the recovery screen shows for a second then the phone restarts and keeps on doing that. I've tried everything . Please help me out.
Thanks.

visit a local phone shop, ask them if you can borrow one of their batteries for a few minutes to fix your phone, or ask them if you can charge your own battery in their display phone, if they are not assholes they should help you out

i dont think its a battery issue though, recovery doesnt even boot up all the way it quickly flashes 2 lines then it restarts. Ill try the battery option though.

have you flashed the newest recovery?

i hadn't gotten to it yet, i was planning on doing it really soon though. The problem is that it wont even boot into anything. it will go into cwm for half a second and then turn off and then keeps on cycling.

Hanzee94 said:
i hadn't gotten to it yet, i was planning on doing it really soon though. The problem is that it wont even boot into anything. it will go into cwm for half a second and then turn off and then keeps on cycling.
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you cant boot into fastboot?

nope, it boots straight into cwm. its really weird. I tried looking it up first but had no luck finding anything similar to my situation.

iff the battery is charged, you may possibly just have a hardware fault, I have a similar fault on my HTC HD2 where similar things happen with CWM and booting in cycles, I stick it in the freezer for 5 minutes and then pull it out and boot it, and it works then... maybe try that?

i let it stay on the charger overnight and when i woke up this morning it fixed itself. I have no idea what happened. needless to say, im going to reset everything and reinstall everything.

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This is why I don't recommend anyone use the old recoveries that some ROM devs are suggesting.
Please, general public: don't install any recoveries that don't support charge mode!
If certain conditions are met, it's possible to be stuck without a way to charge the battery if you use a recovery that doesn't support battery charging (since recovery handles offmode charging on this device).
If you haven't done so already, please update to the new CWM I posted a few weeks ago that does support charge mode.

[Q] Power Consumption Exceeds Supply

I frequently receive a notification pop up indicating something like, "that the device power consumption currently exceeds the supply. Please plug in."
I take care to exit unused applications, etc, but this still occurs. In fact, I have tried rebooting to ensure nothing is left running in the background. Oddly, it occurs EVEN WHEN PLUGGED INTO THE CAR OR USB outlet... Most often this occurs when I'm using the device for navigation, so GPS, and DATA will be on. The notice has also popped up during other applications. It has happened when using LTE but also when LTE is disabled.
Is this something that everyone is experiencing? If you are, can you please post your Service provider, your SPECS, any mods, or if you have made any progress in stopping it. Lets see if we can track this down.

Mad Medik said:
I frequently receive a notification pop up indicating something like, "that the device power consumption currently exceeds the supply. Please plug in."
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That's strange. I've never seen a message like that. It doesn't sound like something native to Android / Sense, do you have any battery monitoring / power control apps installed that could be giving this message? How long does your phone last on a charge if you don't plug it in?

I've seen that error before. I wasn't using the USB cable and charger that came with my phone and that cable was damaged in the USB socket. Have you tried other plugs?
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The reason you are probably seeing that on car or USB charger is due to then not proving the right amount of power. If you have the screen brightness set high and using navigation it uses quite a bit of power. Most USB and car chargers usually only provide I believe a half amp where as most phones like a charger that users 1 amp.
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Ive had that happen once when I was playing a really graphics intense game. I was over at a friends house and had it plugged into his computer to charge and was showing him how much better a game looked on my phone than his and it did that. I was using the 3 usb ports on the front of his tower, and he also had his phone and a headset plugged in that front hub as well, and since that hub is powered by one connection on the motherboard I just figured the 3 devices (mainly the 2 phones) were just drawing too much power at the time.

I have had it happen when I was playing a graphics intensive game while plugged into USB on my computer, but never when plugged into AC or car charger.

Thanks for the replies. Good to know it is not just my device.
Unfortunately, my problem has compounded. While I was using it last night, plugged into a USB in the car, it drained enough to shut itself down. I let it sit for a bit and tried to boot it up again. It quickly shut off again. I plugged it into the HTC wall charger over night. When I got up in the morning, it still wouldnt turn on. I tried pulling the battery, replacing it and plugging in again. The LED lights up orange for about 4 seconds, goes off and stays off. It wont turn on.
I left it plugged in for the day while I was out, and nothing. It still won't power up. I notice the battery is cold, further indicating to me that the issue is that it is not being charged at all (rather than a charged battery in a dead device).
I have tried two different USB cables and tried both the wall adapter as well as the computer USB port. Nada... Unfortunately I don't know anyone with a Holiday, so I think I will have to go to the store tomorrow and see if someone will be kind enough to charge my battery in a store phone for an hour or something...
Anyhow, once I get it running again, I want to avoid this in future. I currently have it Network unlocked, and Bootloader unlocked. I have installed CWM Recovery 5.5.0.4, and Rumrunner Beta 11. There was talk that a version of CWM Recovery was not allowing the device to charge while it was off. I am thinking that this is perhaps the culprit in my case. Although I thought that was for 5.0.2.7 (or something similar)?
Any input would be appreciated.

I would find someone with a vivid and try on it, maybe the battery is dead.
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Mad Medik said:
Thanks for the replies. Good to know it is not just my device.
Unfortunately, my problem has compounded. While I was using it last night, plugged into a USB in the car, it drained enough to shut itself down. I let it sit for a bit and tried to boot it up again. It quickly shut off again. I plugged it into the HTC wall charger over night. When I got up in the morning, it still wouldnt turn on. I tried pulling the battery, replacing it and plugging in again. The LED lights up orange for about 4 seconds, goes off and stays off. It wont turn on.
I left it plugged in for the day while I was out, and nothing. It still won't power up. I notice the battery is cold, further indicating to me that the issue is that it is not being charged at all (rather than a charged battery in a dead device).
I have tried two different USB cables and tried both the wall adapter as well as the computer USB port. Nada... Unfortunately I don't know anyone with a Holiday, so I think I will have to go to the store tomorrow and see if someone will be kind enough to charge my battery in a store phone for an hour or something...
Anyhow, once I get it running again, I want to avoid this in future. I currently have it Network unlocked, and Bootloader unlocked. I have installed CWM Recovery 5.5.0.4, and Rumrunner Beta 11. There was talk that a version of CWM Recovery was not allowing the device to charge while it was off. I am thinking that this is perhaps the culprit in my case. Although I thought that was for 5.0.2.7 (or something similar)?
Any input would be appreciated.
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Make sure you have beta2 of the recovery which resolves this issue, I too have the Bell Raider and have yet to see this error. I'm running stock with bloat removed and rooted with beta2 recovery. Just go in the recovery if you do not see beta2 written in the CWM header you don't have the latest.

rquiett said:
Most USB and car chargers usually only provide I believe a half amp where as most phones like a charger that users 1 amp.
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It looks like this is bang on. Apparantly computer USB ports for USB 1, 1.1 are minimum 200 mA with 500 mA recommended. Not sure about USB 2.0. Interestingly there is a proposal for USB 3.0 to allow for 20 Amps or more so you could easily power a laptop and other devices through a USB connection.
The HTC Holiday draws something more than 500 mA and presumably a max of 1 Amp as this is what the included HTC wall charger is rated for.
Anyhow, I guess I will have to pick up a new car charger, because the USB port in my car only pushes 500 mA max, and same for my current car charger.

I noticed that when I would remove and reinsert the battery with the device plugged in, the orange light would illuminate for about 4 or 5 seconds, then go off. In the hopes that this meant that the battery was charging for that brief period, I repeatedly removed and reinserted the battery for about 10 minutes this morning, trying the power button each time. It finally booted up. I turned the screen off and left it alone to charge. A few hours later I checked on it and it is up to about 1/3. Anyhow, putting that out there as a last resort if anyone else has a similar problem.
jebise101 said:
Make sure you have beta2 of the recovery which resolves this issue, I too have the Bell Raider and have yet to see this error. I'm running stock with bloat removed and rooted with beta2 recovery. Just go in the recovery if you do not see beta2 written in the CWM header you don't have the latest.
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Thanks. After I let the battery charge right up, I will check that. (I don't want to tempt trouble by rebooting until I have finished a charge). I thought I had the latest version but maybe I borked something in the update.
jebise or other Bell Raider users: Were you able to use the ph39IMG method of flashing? I have had no success with it; I got an error that it was for the wrong type of device. I deleted the zip and used the next method listed in the superguide. However, now I get a series of errors relating to not finding ph39IMG when I boot into HBoot.
Thanks

Mad Medik said:
I noticed that when I would remove and reinsert the battery with the device plugged in, the orange light would illuminate for about 4 or 5 seconds, then go off. In the hopes that this meant that the battery was charging for that brief period, I repeatedly removed and reinserted the battery for about 10 minutes this morning, trying the power button each time. It finally booted up. I turned the screen off and left it alone to charge. A few hours later I checked on it and it is up to about 1/3. Anyhow, putting that out there as a last resort if anyone else has a similar problem.
Thanks. After I let the battery charge right up, I will check that. (I don't want to tempt trouble by rebooting until I have finished a charge). I thought I had the latest version but maybe I borked something in the update.
jebise or other Bell Raider users: Were you able to use the ph39IMG method of flashing? I have had no success with it; I got an error that it was for the wrong type of device. I deleted the zip and used the next method listed in the superguide. However, now I get a series of errors relating to not finding ph39IMG when I boot into HBoot.
Thanks
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if you use the fastboot method to flash the recovery, you dont need the PH39IMG. the 'error' messages you see when you boot into HBOOT is normal. every time you boot into HBOOT it looks for the PH39IMG.zip on your sdcard

PH39IMG.zip did not work for me had to use fastboot. As PG states its normal to get those errors, because it looking for PH39IMG.zip and can't find it.

Pirateghost said:
if you use the fastboot method to flash the recovery, you dont need the PH39IMG. the 'error' messages you see when you boot into HBOOT is normal. every time you boot into HBOOT it looks for the PH39IMG.zip on your sdcard
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PH39IMG.zip did not work for me had to use fastboot. As PG states its normal to get those errors, because it looking for PH39IMG.zip and can't find it.
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Thanks for clarification on the "normal" errors I should expect. Im not a total noob, but feel like it, switching to HTC. I understand I can use the fastboot method and have done so. But do I have to? The PH39IMG.ZIP would be much more user friendly. So, why would I be getting an Invalid Device error with the PH39IMG.zip from the superguide post? Is it specific to the AT&T Vivid or something?
Anyhow, after all the problems I was having, I decided to wipe/factory reset and restore from a Backup made in CWM recovery right after installing Rumraider for the first time. I am just waiting for the device to reboot (has been on the HTC boot screen for about 10 minutes now... :-/

Mad Medik said:
Thanks for clarification on the "normal" errors I should expect. Im not a total noob, but feel like it, switching to HTC. I understand I can use the fastboot method and have done so. But do I have to? The PH39IMG.ZIP would be much more user friendly. So, why would I be getting an Invalid Device error with the PH39IMG.zip from the superguide post? Is it specific to the AT&T Vivid or something?
Anyhow, after all the problems I was having, I decided to wipe/factory reset and restore from a Backup made in CWM recovery right after installing Rumraider for the first time. I am just waiting for the device to reboot (has been on the HTC boot screen for about 10 minutes now... :-/
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once you have done your recovery you dont need to do it again until you update the recovery with a newer version. its a one time thing, unless you relock stock RUU the device.
the ph39img.zip was configured for at&t vivid. you would probably need to modify it for any other holiday device.
if you are restoring from a backup, did you make sure and flash your boot.img from your backup first? otherwise you will be stuck at that HTC screen for a lot longer....just boot into HBOOT and flash the stock boot.img

[Q] Can't Boot Phone

So I've been running HoliRaider v1 and it's been working beautifully however last night my phone died, and when it dies it boots into recovery. This is usually fine however the phone will not charge in recovery but instantly boots into it if i plug it in. Basically, it's stuck there because it only charges (as shown by the orange light indicator) for a second before entering recovery. Then, it just stays there. I'm not sure if I should even restore at this point, as that wouldn't exactly work with 0 battery. If anyone has any idea what to do please let me know.

Looks like you either need to charge the battery using a stock phone from either a friend or go to the att store and see if they will let you charge your battery on their floor unit for a few
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at this point getting the battery charged is priority. this is probably your best bet without having to buy some kind of charger or new battery
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Looks like you either need to charge the battery using a stock phone from either a friend or go to the att store and see if they will let you charge your battery on their floor unit for a few
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I had this happen when I first got the phone. Should you eventually get it to boot (I did after taking out the battery, putting it back in, and then trying to turn it on while plugging it in, it took many attempts), let it charge to 100%, then flash thecubed's ClockworkMod which supports chargemode when powered off. You should be fine after that.

you can flash the recovery in fastboot if the phone stays on long enough.
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I had this happen when I first got the phone. Should you eventually get it to boot (I did after taking out the battery, putting it back in, and then trying to turn it on while plugging it in, it took many attempts), let it charge to 100%, then flash thecubed's ClockworkMod which supports chargemode when powered off. You should be fine after that.
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rft3ch said:
you can flash the recovery in fastboot if the phone stays on long enough.
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Personally I wouldn't flash anything with a battery that may conk-out mid-write.

[Q] HTC Vivid won't charge or turn on

As the title says, my HTC Vivid won't turn on, charge or anything. The orange light that says it's charging doesn't turn on, buttons don't vibrate or anything. It shouldn't be bricked because I haven't done anything to brick it. I was using Xbox Smartglass on it, I locked the phone and went back to my game, about 15 minutes later I tried to unlock it and it did nothing. The battery shouldn't have been dead because I charged it the night before. Any suggestions or help please?

Switch to twrp from CWM...
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk 2

rignfool said:
Switch to twrp from CWM...
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk 2
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I haven't done any modding to it, and I have no clue what twrp and CWM are, sorry. I'm new here.

Got a friend with a vivid?
Try their battery...
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk 2

rignfool said:
Got a friend with a vivid?
Try their battery...
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk 2
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LOL The reason I got a Vivid is because he gave it to me. Sadly, I was hoping there would be a technical solution instead of trying a new battery. I've got one ordered though. :/

Some have bad batteries.
Mine started doing the same thing. For a while I thought the battery life on Vivid was horrible compared to the Aria I had at the time. Then it progressed and one day finally quit completely and would not take a charge from any charger I had. So, being a techhead I decided to probe the battery with a multimeter and it showed very little voltage, so low I guess the charger wouldn't even recognize or try to charge it.
So what I did was take a battery charger I had for a walkie talkie radio and touched the leads to the battery for 3-5 seconds or so, put battery back in phone and it would then charge. I did this a few times until I could get to ATT store and the guy ordered a new one through warranty. Haven't had a problem with the Vivid since.

Same Problem
Last night I pulled my battery at 21% after shutting the phone off to clear the memory. I put the battery back in and put it on the charger, I tried to turn the phone on and nothing. It is not showing that it is charging. I have four batteries for this phone and none of them will turn on the phone. I am at a loss here. The phone was working fine until i shut it down and removed the battery. Any ideas on what is causing this or any way to force it to turn on.

krekol said:
Last night I pulled my battery at 21% after shutting the phone off to clear the memory. I put the battery back in and put it on the charger, I tried to turn the phone on and nothing. It is not showing that it is charging. I have four batteries for this phone and none of them will turn on the phone. I am at a loss here. The phone was working fine until i shut it down and removed the battery. Any ideas on what is causing this or any way to force it to turn on.
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That sounds like a royal pain.
Could it be the changer or its USB cable? Work some contact cleaner into the power button?

I'm having this same issue. I'm not sure if it's the battery, since the phone boots to bootloader just fine. But the battery won't charge when the phone is off (red light comes on for a second, then quits) and I can't get past the HTC screen booting to ROM or recovery. Where is a good place to buy a battery?

Even if the power button was bad the phone should still charge a battery. I have a charger that will charge the batteries without the phone so I know the batteries are charged. I have several different chargers and none of them will show the phone charging. I even tried connecting it to my computer. The phone is dead, I guess I am going to have to crack it open and see if anything has come loose inside. I really like this phone and am going to hate loosing it. I paid a lot for this phone. That shinny penny I paid to get this phone was my favorite.

Have you tried plugging the phone USB into a desktop and using that to try rebooting the phone into bootloader or recovery?
Hasoon2000's Vivid All-In-One Toolkit in the dev section can do that pretty simply. i used an earlier version of that to unlock the phone a year and a half ago.
i don't remember if the phone has to have debugging turned on for the desktop to feed it commands.
Even if this works i dunno whatall it'll prove.
i like this phone too a lot, and am sorry yours seem to be having hardware problems.

stuffed_tiger said:
I'm having this same issue. I'm not sure if it's the battery, since the phone boots to bootloader just fine. But the battery won't charge when the phone is off (red light comes on for a second, then quits) and I can't get past the HTC screen booting to ROM or recovery. Where is a good place to buy a battery?
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That sounds like you lost your boot image... try flashing a new one that you know works... and if it won't charge with power off... sounds like you have CWM installed... switch to twrp...
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk 2

lowfatmilk said:
Have you tried plugging the phone USB into a desktop and using that to try rebooting the phone into bootloader or recovery?
Hasoon2000's Vivid All-In-One Toolkit in the dev section can do that pretty simply. i used an earlier version of that to unlock the phone a year and a half ago.
i don't remember if the phone has to have debugging turned on for the desktop to feed it commands.
Even if this works i dunno whatall it'll prove.
i like this phone too a lot, and am sorry yours seem to be having hardware problems.
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The phone does not turn on at all so getting to the bootloader is impossible. It does nothing. Does not even charge a battery. .

krekol said:
The phone does not turn on at all so getting to the bootloader is impossible. It does nothing. Does not even charge a battery. .
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That's the definition of a bricked phone, was what i meant. No screen, no led, no button function, no sign of life, and from no explicable cause.
Android phones don't have real on-off switches that directly disconnects the phone from power. Its failure to manifest signs of life doesn't absolutely indicate irreversible hardware failure. There's a bit of a chance it's firmware.
Aside from the power button, Android phones can be controlled thru the USB port.

I took your advise and plugged the phone into the computer and left it over night. This morning I rebooted the computer and the phone screen lit up. I got all excited and tried to use adb to reboot into bootloader, Of course the phone was not found. I took the phone off the cord and the screen shut off. I pushed the power button and the screen lit up. Let go of the power button and the screen goes off. I tried another usb cord and now the screen no longer lites up. Maybe there is hope for this phone.

If the screen lights up like that... there is power to it...
Sounds like you have dirt in your power button... or the button isn't making contact...
Time to disassemble and check the power button...
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk 2

krekol said:
This morning I rebooted the computer and the phone screen lit up. I got all excited and tried to use adb to reboot into bootloader, Of course the phone was not found. I took the phone off the cord and the screen shut off. I pushed the power button and the screen lit up. Let go of the power button and the screen goes off. I tried another usb cord and now the screen no longer lites up. Maybe there is hope for this phone.
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Yeah, that part where the phone was seen by the desktop, and then not, can have something to do with the Windows drivers. Most of the folks on these forums know what's with this stuff better than me; i usually have to tell windows to stop the hardware, disconnect and reconnect the phone USB and start the connection up again, every time before i do one set of commands, like put the phone into bootloader and download a kernel image into it.
There's a Vivid unbricking project over in the dev subforum, you must've seen that. Whether or not you get your phone working again, i hope it'll be a productive journey for you.
i was perfectly happy just messing with apps until i bricked my tablet; that got me into all this device unlocking and rom burning and fun stuff. It's too bad the Vivid isn't simpler to hack.

my phone cant boot to desktop after i flash the kanel
my phone cant boot to desktop after i flash the kanel please can you help me

9 times out of 10, if the phone will not turn on at all it is the battery. For some reason, the Vivid will occasionally stop seeing the battery. I have fixed this on mine when that happened by using an external charger. That worked because my battery was actually OK, the Vivid just wouldn't charge it or even see it. Once it was charged it was fine. If your battery really is dead (sounds like it might be the case), get a new battery. There is a 2000 mHr battery on Amazon that is not too much worse than the original (when new).

I had the same issue once, it turns out that I fixed it using a external charger