[Q] Fluctuating battery charge - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My battery charge fluctuates, sometimes it goes up from 5% to 35%, sometimes it seems depleted (2%) and if I check in 15 minutes it's 10% and so on.
I'm running CM 7.2 and previously Darky ROM 10.2. Since this started happening I've used a couple of the top-rated battery calibration tools, but to no avail.
Any ideas? Is it a hardware problem? Or a driver problem with the custom ROMs? Or something else?

Try the following If you haven't already.
Charge phone until it says it's full.
Discharge until it turns off. Try to turn it on to make sure it's absolutely flat.
Do this again.
Then charge it periodically so that you keep the percentage between the 20 and 90 approximately, and see if it improves.
Repeat first steps.
Wiping battery stats and similar "calibration" has no effect on neither the percentage shown or battery performance.
Sent from horseback.

Thanks for the advice, I'll try it and see what happens. Any ideas to the cause of all this? Also, would buying a new battery help?

I don't really know the reason why this is happening, Li ion batteries can be somewhat of a black arts.
A new one should fix it anyway, and they're very cheap where I live at least
Sent from horseback.

pandronic said:
My battery charge fluctuates, sometimes it goes up from 5% to 35%, sometimes it seems depleted (2%) and if I check in 15 minutes it's 10% and so on.
I'm running CM 7.2 and previously Darky ROM 10.2. Since this started happening I've used a couple of the top-rated battery calibration tools, but to no avail.
Any ideas? Is it a hardware problem? Or a driver problem with the custom ROMs? Or something else?
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I passed through Same problem when i had updated my mobile to jelly bean for first time. But after 7-8 days fluctuates is decreased from +/-20% to +/- 2%. And fluctuates are gone after 20 days.
So dont worry, just wait for 20 days.

I have a Galaxy Nexus, not rooted, and it does this all day. 80%, 14%, 78%. All in a matter of minutes.
I'm discharging fully then doing a full charge to see if it changes anything.
My Sensation never did this and the apps I have are the same. In fact I've installed less on the Nexus...

same problem
i also have this same problem, check this thread...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772177
no one gave me the correct cause or solution.i've done everything i can but no luck.if you get any correct cause or solution pls let me know.anyway I am planning to buy a new battery....

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Display + Battery level

Hello,
I recently got my nexus, and rooted only two days after receiving it. I installed cyanogen's latest. I am getting low battery; in only 5 or so minutes, the percentage goes down by at least 2 percent (while using). I looked to see what may have been draining the battery, and found that the display alone was using 62% to 75% of my battery. I tried undervolting, but the display seemed to still be in the same draining range...
Is this a hardware related problem, or is this a common nexus thing?
ywindlass said:
Hello,
I recently got my nexus, and rooted only two days after receiving it. I installed cyanogen's latest. I am getting low battery; in only 5 or so minutes, the percentage goes down by at least 2 percent (while using). I looked to see what may have been draining the battery, and found that the display alone was using 62% to 75% of my battery. I tried undervolting, but the display seemed to still be in the same draining range...
Is this a hardware related problem, or is this a common nexus thing?
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same here, really starting to piss me off when i see people talking about 70% battery at the end of the day while my phone dies in 6 hours
Cyan?
Woah, I think this might actually be cyan's Rom.
I flash enomther's rom and i got display percentage at around 15-16% ...
I think cyan will look into this soon enough...
But for now... I guess I'm gonna wipe... :/ and stick to enom's or some other ROM...
ywindlass said:
Woah, I think this might actually be cyan's Rom.
I flash enomther's rom and i got display percentage at around 15-16% ...
I think cyan will look into this soon enough...
But for now... I guess I'm gonna wipe... :/ and stick to enom's or some other ROM...
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C´mon....see my signature!
More than 10h now, Wifi on all the time -> 70% battery
This is not that bad
rori1 said:
C´mon....see my signature!
More than 10h now, Wifi on all the time -> 70% battery
This is not that bad
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I think the problem is only with a few people, but I know others are experiencing this. This might be something with the "latest" nexi. But idk, it's a mutual issue, a fix should be coming
Probably you are right...
But, I would like to know, what settings peolple use: like updating wheater every hour, emails, widgets,..ham many apps are running and so on, ... perhaps connected to...sometimes people dont even know that
Edit: I got my Nex in january.
The change in the display usage percentage is just due to the way the powermanager works. Its not using more battery, its just displaying how much power it is using more accurately.
have the same problem.
100% airplane mode ON no WIFI, in 5 hours 72% battery remains . (PHONE IDLE took most of this - my G1 could go 1 month with this settings)
IN 12 hours in was 6% and with LOW use of my N1.
Yesterday I removed numbers in my battery and it was a litle better, not much but a little. (about 8% better)
I had 5.0.5.1, 2 and 3 and everyone had the same problem!
CM please take a look at this. What do you need any LOG info or something!
Have you tried wiping battery stats, then charging to 100% with it off, then booting into recovery and wiping battery stats again, then charging to 100%? The few times I've had battery issues that's taken care of it for me.
I flashed cyan again with a wipe (again), but got the same thing.
On enom's rom, I get beastly battery. I think we just have to wait for a fix for the people who are affected.
danguyf said:
Have you tried wiping battery stats, then charging to 100% with it off, then booting into recovery and wiping battery stats again, then charging to 100%? The few times I've had battery issues that's taken care of it for me.
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Do you need root to wipe battery stats? how do you do it?
Well I did the wipe battery about 3 times and in OS it was already green light 93% full.
I WIPED and put the power in on NON POWERED PHONE. It took 1 hour more to come to the green light . than I wiped again and went to boot up.
at 11PM i had 100% battery went into airplane mode wifi OFF.
And i did one other thing. Some of you had the battery drain issue with trackball wake. So I disable it.
7 hours of this and I got 97% - beautiful
before that I had 72% so there is a difference.
Now I have to see if the wakeup trackball is the cause of this or the wiping the battery stats.
Will eliminate one and other and keep you posted
I took my phone off the charger at 4:30am and the next day at 5:30 am i had 12% battery left. i used my phone a total of 3 times. most of the time it was on standby. i have setcpu with my phone UV and UC to try to save battery with profiles set up. in battery information 85% of the phones battery went to cell standby. Any suggestions on how to improve this?
Try wakeup trackball OFF in spare parts and battery % OFF in upper taskbar.
I have now from 100% to 59% in 7 hours. wifi ON all the time.
I have tried to wipe battery settings and charge fully with the phone off, but after the full procedure, I still get the same end result. I attached a picture of my battery usage.
Im pretty sure i saw a post online about the newer nexus's that were released having a better display. If this is true then wouldn't the phone's hardware alone be using more battery?
I can confirm I am having the same problem. I wasn't sure until I checked battery usage overnight. It used to be that with my phone on airplane mode I would use about 2% while I slept. Now, it's 9 or 10% with "Phone Idle" taking the lion's share of it.
I have tried deleting batterystats.bin after a full charge; powering off (while on charger); charging up to full again, but this has not solved the problem.
A few notes:
When the phone is idle (but not in airplane mode) it uses about 1.5% per hour (compared to about 1.1% in airplane mode)
I am using setcpu profiles to keep cpu usage right down when idle
Around the same time I upgraded to 5.0.5.3 I also started using the himem version of fastboot. And yes, if you suspect I don't know what I'm talking about here, you are quite right
For my next trick, I will try resetting battery statistics via recovery. What fun!
I've kept the cyan rom, and changed some settings to increase battery life. I turned off the battery percentage icon, and turned off the trackball to wake. I still got that the display was using a lot, but the battery still lasted pretty good. I guess there isn't too big of a problem on my side. It probably is the "newer displays" on the "newer" nexi. Maybe there really isnt a big problem
I changed now from CM to Enomther's TheOfficial Nexus1 1.8.1 and battery now works great.
I unplugged the charger at 12.00 am at midnight and with quite good use, not extremely havey but a good use I had 30% battery left at 20:00 (08:00PM) that day.
I lost only 2% from midnight to 7:00AM in my airplane mode and with Gmail check 10 min of phone calls wifi ON all the time checking web pages and showing off my live wallpapper at my work I had at noon (12.00PM) 70% battery left!
I LIKE IT!
now I'm thinking to push Kernel - .32 & .33 to see if there is any change with my battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653598
After resetting battery stats in recovery, I still lost about 10% overnight while on airplane mode.
For my next trick, I'll use a task killer like "Process Manager"* to keep everything unnecessary switched off overnight. Maybe I'll be able to narrow it down to an application if it's not something integral to the actual ROM.
*Yes, I know it will use up the battery too

[Q] Unreliable Battery!

Hi
I have noticed when I soft reset my phone the battery drops anywere from 5% up to about 70%! It varies from rom to rom. If i plug it in and softreset it a couple of times the battery goes up to around what it use to be. If it makes a difference I flash roms alot and don't usually install to many applications.
Is this normal at all or is my battery faulty? It's only about 8 months old.
Any ideas? Tips I could try?
Thanks
Imran
you know, i have the same problem when installing, touch x legendary rom, battery is about 96,96% but when i install that rom, battery drops down to 8,7%, i just plug in power for second, and battery jumps to 98%, and then all working fine...
The way phones and other devices display their state of charge (%) isn't always accurate, hence why it jumps back up 5% after plugging it in. I don't think your battery is unreliable, it's just reporting the wrong percent of charge...
I see. Mine is more like 50% so I guess mine is just really wrong! any ideas for fixing this?
Also i have the typical xperia x1 problem were it thinks the headphones are plugged in for the last 4 days. I have plugging and unplugging the headphones in heaps but it doesn't seem to work
Thanks
I have the same problem.
Phone has one year and 8 months.
Wine phone or battery?
I just got exact problem this morning
I agree with comment above, I think it just battery indicator not accurately represented battery state.
I also noticed the problem happened when I get my phone idle for a while
I was just going to start a new thread about this kind of thing. My phone's original battery has run out at anywhere between 0 and 30%... it tends to go for a couple of days if I don't use the phone much. I've tried recalibration and it doesn't really help. I thought that was bad, but I just bought a backup battery and it's even worse... yesterday it went from 100 to 50% over half a day on standby, then I used it for about ten minutes and it just went off! At 50%!
I was only expecting rubbish life from the cheap battery but at least report the charge properly so I have a chance! Old phones could always do it... why can't one that cost hundreds of pounds when it was new?
I take it there's nothing you can really do?

[Q] CM (and others?) battery meter complete screw-up

My battery never charges above ~76% when plugged in. After rebooting however, it is very much at 100% and lasts for a good amount of time. This is not necessarily a question, but I wonder if others are experiencing this too and if there is a fix? Read below.
I noticed that my battery life got very bad after installing custom roms. I also found out that this happened because I sometimes kept the phone plugged in while flashing, something that totally screws up the battery reading. So, I followed this guide to calibrate my battery and it worked.
Now, whenever the phone is plugged in it NEVER goes to 100% when charging. Maybe 80% if leaving it for a while (10 hours overnight). I'm worried about frying the battery. Is there a fix?
It is only a matter of presentation. It actually doesn't mean your batt is broken. Plug it and charge it overnight. Then discharge only for few percent and plug it back in. It should go to 100%.
Sent from my HTC Legend
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
What I'm concerned about is if the phone "thinks" the battery isn't recharged and keeps squeezing juice into it when in fact it is full (which a reboot will show)? That's not good for the battery. It should go into trickle charge after reaching 100%..
The process described in the desire forum is also known as formatting the battery. In fact most of battery manufacturers (lithium battery manufacturers) recommend doing this in a slightly different way:
Before first use:
1.) Before powering the device on, plug it in and let it charge until the LED is green (fully charged)
2.) Then take the battery out of the device and wait an hour (to make sure all the chemical processes in the battery are as idle as possible)
3.) Then plug it back in, while still off and let it charge untill green LED
4.) use the device....
You can practice this slightly modified with first step being:
Discharge the battery (by normal use)until only few percent are left (1 - 5 % are OK)
I've done these steps with my Mugen extended battery and I was getting around 4 - 5 days on Legend, now I'm getting 2 - 3 days on Desire S, but the ROM isn't very optimized yet, I believe it will be better in time...
Just one thing... Why is this in Development!?
No Idea.....
can mods move this?
BlaY0 said:
It is only a matter of presentation. It actually doesn't mean your batt is broken. Plug it and charge it overnight. Then discharge only for few percent and plug it back in. It should go to 100%.
Sent from my HTC Legend
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sz1a did this solve your problem? Have the same problem with every firmware i've tried....
peddalion said:
sz1a did this solve your problem? Have the same problem with every firmware i've tried....
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Definitely did not solve it but at least the battery performance is ok. It just stays at 78% for a few hours drops from there. Very weird but as long as the battery doesn't get broken I guess it's ok.
Do you have some 3rd party battery installed in your Legend? I have one 1,5 Ah in mine and it is acting the same way. It doesn't bother me too much coz it was cheap... it lasts 48 hrs with data always on and moderate usage. I noticed this that when I charge it overnight and it reaches 80%, unplugging it stays at 80% for several hrs and just after it starts dropping if I plug it again, meter reaches 100%. It's weird but as I said I can live with that
I've got exactly the same issue with stock 2.2 ROM. I've never rooted or CM my phone; I was wondering if CM would do it, but doesn't look like it.
android forums /htc-legend/265545-battery-doesnt-fully-charge.html
(sorry, I can't post links; maybe an admin can fix the link for me?
This seems to indicate it's a phone hardware fault and requires a new Legend to fix! My big worry is, as stated, that the charging light never goes green; therefore is pumping lots of power into a potentially full battery.

Extreme Battery Drain

Hello, it's me again with problems. I have an extremely battery drain, even Juice Deffender can't handle on this. When I put the phone on charger, when he turns off after 0 % battery status, indicator shows me 50 % min after only few seconds on charger, and it's fully charged for half an hour maybe. When I turn on 3g and connect to Net, from 100 % to 0% is ONLY 15 min ?!?! I have cm-7-20120812-NIGHTLY-cooper ROM, but when I had offical 2.3.6, it was the same problem. Can I check some-how what is the problem- software, calibration or battery? I did a few calibration without any success. I'm really sorry on my very bad English. I will be grateful if anybody can redirect me on the right topic. Thanks in advance
3G eats a huge battery. I would not expect anything nice from it. But seems that your problem is a bit more problematic. How long do you have your phone?
Make sure you are charging your phone until its actually full not just when it says 100% look here for more details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28658849
Did you try wiping battery stats in CWM or recalibrating it?
I've tried wipe stats with Battery Calibration, and with CWM wipe battery stats. I've tried different ROMs, DroidACE, official 2.3.6, cooper nightly ROMs, and all of them have same problem. I've noticed that the battery is a little thicker in the middle, before it was flat, and now is a little convex in the middle. I've tried also discharging and charging for a 5+ hours, didn't help me. literally be emptied by 20 min of Use
wabafet89 said:
I've tried wipe stats with Battery Calibration, and with CWM wipe battery stats. I've tried different ROMs, DroidACE, official 2.3.6, cooper nightly ROMs, and all of them have same problem. I've noticed that the battery is a little thicker in the middle, before it was flat, and now is a little convex in the middle. I've tried also discharging and charging for a 5+ hours, didn't help me. literally be emptied by 20 min of Use
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Sheesh guys. Battery Calibration doesn't affect battery life on your phone. It's just for accurate readings -_-"
wabafet89 said:
I've tried wipe stats with Battery Calibration, and with CWM wipe battery stats. I've tried different ROMs, DroidACE, official 2.3.6, cooper nightly ROMs, and all of them have same problem. I've noticed that the battery is a little thicker in the middle, before it was flat, and now is a little convex in the middle. I've tried also discharging and charging for a 5+ hours, didn't help me. literally be emptied by 20 min of Use
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Yeah man, Ive got the same problem.
If I charge it for about 3-4 Hours, I get a max of 5 Mins or so, with Wi-fi on.
When the Battery is about 10%, and I put it to charge, It immediately says 99% charged.
I've changed 2 roms, and still no effect, infact, its got worse.
Even Juice defender (even the ultimate version) dosent work, Not even Underclocking.
I saw the battery recalibrating thing and Ive wiped the battery stats, still no use.
I think there's a problem with the battery itself?
Im just sick of it.
Alpha que said:
Yeah man, Ive got the same problem.
If I charge it for about 3-4 Hours, I get a max of 5 Mins or so, with Wi-fi on.
When the Battery is about 10%, and I put it to charge, It immediately says 99% charged.
I've changed 2 roms, and still no effect, infact, its got worse.
Even Juice defender (even the ultimate version) dosent work, Not even Underclocking.
I saw the battery recalibrating thing and Ive wiped the battery stats, still no use.
I think there's a problem with the battery itself?
Im just sick of it.
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I also think that the battery itself has a problem, not any ROM. I'll go to service for a few days and I'll tell you about what was the problem.
wabafet89 said:
I also think that the battery itself has a problem, not any ROM. I'll go to service for a few days and I'll tell you about what was the problem.
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Yeah, I suspect it is a problem with the battery.
Anyways, thanks man
If it's deformed, then your battery's life is over, that's it, get a new one.
You can try the freezing method to try and squeeze it for a bit of juice:
Charge to 100, Plastic wrap, in the freezer for maybe an hr (not too long), take it out, put it in your phone, charge it till it says fully charged, turn on your phone and check duration.
seems a deep sleep issue
Just abuy a new battery. I suggest a Anker branded one. Search a battery review topic at the Accesoires section. If you buy the Anker 1400mAh, your battery life will be even better than the original battery life. And Anker is trusted and cheap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783344
I listened to your advice and bought a new battery, now I'll see what was the problem, battery or maybe hardware/ROM. I'm charging it now. Any advice how to charge new battery? Advice for scripts or ROMs? I'm going to use nightly cooper cm 7.2 and juice deffender. What about cm9 and this model?
wabafet89 said:
I listened to your advice and bought a new battery, now I'll see what was the problem, battery or maybe hardware/ROM. I'm charging it now. Any advice how to charge new battery? Advice for scripts or ROMs? I'm going to use nightly cooper cm 7.2 and juice deffender. What about cm9 and this model?
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Since we're in 2012, I'm guessing it's a lithium ion battery.
Just plug it in and wait for some time (~15 minutes)after it reaching 100% to actually fully charge.
It would be best if you don't let it discharge below 20-30%.
Read more about lithium ion batteries by searching around the web for more info.
wabafet89 said:
I listened to your advice and bought a new battery, now I'll see what was the problem, battery or maybe hardware/ROM. I'm charging it now. Any advice how to charge new battery? Advice for scripts or ROMs? I'm going to use nightly cooper cm 7.2 and juice deffender. What about cm9 and this model?
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So, How did it go?
Was there a problem in the battery?
or, is something wrong in the phone?
there was a problem in battery, I bought a new battery, not Samsung, but also has 1350 mAh capacity, and it's 2nd time on charging, life is about 2 days of using, average 2-3 h 3g, and playing games, half hour voice and maybe 30 sms and mails, and for me this is a very huge improvement from 15 minutes before death battery. Cheers, sorry again on my bad English
wabafet89 said:
there was a problem in battery, I bought a new battery, not Samsung, but also has 1350 mAh capacity, and it's 2nd time on charging, life is about 2 days of using, average 2-3 h 3g, and playing games, half hour voice and maybe 30 sms and mails, and for me this is a very huge improvement from 15 minutes before death battery. Cheers, sorry again on my bad English
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Hmm, I did get slight improvement once i calibrated using another app.
But Im still getting a new battery
anyone knows why phone's display blink-up randomly? I saw that earlier, and I thought that was because of battery, but obviously, wasn't that. It's totaly random. And, I have another question, I've played with *#*#4636#*#* code, and sometimes phone can't receive or sent messages, except when preffered network type is GSM only and only after turning on and again off airplane mode. I have cooper cm 7.2 newest nightly ROM.
wabafet89 said:
anyone knows why phone's display blink-up randomly? I saw that earlier, and I thought that was because of battery, but obviously, wasn't that. It's totaly random. And, I have another question, I've played with *#*#4636#*#* code, and sometimes phone can't receive or sent messages, except when preffered network type is GSM only and only after turning on and again off airplane mode. I have cooper cm 7.2 newest nightly ROM.
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I had the same issue when I was using Elegant white by TAZ.
But Then I flashed a fix for it.
I suggest you should too get in touch with the dev.
But first, flash the rom again.
Alpha que said:
I had the same issue when I was using Elegant white by TAZ.
But Then I flashed a fix for it.
I suggest you should too get in touch with the dev.
But first, flash the rom again.
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Thank you. Anyone knows where is the official topic for cm 7.2 nightly cooper? I found one topic in development section, but at the end of it someone wrote that topic is closed on developer's request. And where I can find changelog? I saw that there is newest nightly update from 19.8. http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=cooper

[Q] My 1 year old Nook's battery (stats) is doing weird stuff

So I've never had a problem with my battery at all. I easily got 6h of screen on time and everything was great.
Recently my Nook started to randomly shut off at around 20-30 %. It "popped" and it was off. Didn't reboot either. Like the battery was dead.
I would have to charge it again to be able to power it on.
Also the stats seemed to be off. The lockscreen sometimes told me it's fully charged and whenever I unplugged my Nook it wasn't fully charged. The battery LED also sometimes flashes green/red during charging.
I only get around 2-3 h of SOT at the moment.
I tried reflashing a couple of times (with full wipes) but the problem occured again.
So my question is: Are my battery stats messed up? Does it just stop charging at a certain point because it thinks it's fully charged but it isn't in reality?
Any ideas (on how to fix this)?
JanSpatschek said:
So I've never had a problem with my battery at all. I easily got 6h of screen on time and everything was great.
Recently my Nook started to randomly shut off at around 20-30 %. It "popped" and it was off. Didn't reboot either. Like the battery was dead.
I would have to charge it again to be able to power it on.
Also the stats seemed to be off. The lockscreen sometimes told me it's fully charged and whenever I unplugged my Nook it wasn't fully charged. The battery LED also sometimes flashes green/red during charging.
I only get around 2-3 h of SOT at the moment.
I tried reflashing a couple of times (with full wipes) but the problem occured again.
So my question is: Are my battery stats messed up? Does it just stop charging at a certain point because it thinks it's fully charged but it isn't in reality?
Any ideas (on how to fix this)?
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It's almost sure that you battery is degrading very fast. But its my advice to re-calibrate your battery. Set your screen brightness to max setting and leave it on until it shuts down. Now don't power it on. Leave it charging for around 2 and half hour.
Now install geekbench benchmark app and test your battery.
If you heard a pop noise, the battery probably delaminated/micro-exploded. (Li-Ion's tend to swell and fail from the heat of (over)charging.)
There's a company, newpower99.com, who has a YouTube video on replacing the battery in the HD+. The battery sold for $25 US last year, but now that our batteries are beginning to degrade, they're out of stock.
I found another site selling replacement batteries for $80. (portatronics.com)
I've noticed that my screen-on time has dropped from 6 hous to 5.5. Maybe the Nokia N1 will be available and rooted by the time I hit 3 hours.
JanSpatschek said:
So I've never had a problem with my battery at all. I easily got 6h of screen on time and everything was great.
Recently my Nook started to randomly shut off at around 20-30 %. It "popped" and it was off. Didn't reboot either. Like the battery was dead.
I would have to charge it again to be able to power it on.
Also the stats seemed to be off. The lockscreen sometimes told me it's fully charged and whenever I unplugged my Nook it wasn't fully charged. The battery LED also sometimes flashes green/red during charging.
I only get around 2-3 h of SOT at the moment.
I tried reflashing a couple of times (with full wipes) but the problem occured again.
So my question is: Are my battery stats messed up? Does it just stop charging at a certain point because it thinks it's fully charged but it isn't in reality?
Any ideas (on how to fix this)?
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I'm having the same issues, and reading this reminded me of trying BatteryCalibration to reset the battery since my nook HD+ stock OS is rooted.
I had this problem several times before I installed CM. Usually, it happened when there was an update available, and when the Nook started to update, it factory reset itself.
Sent from my *unrooted* ZTE Zinger using the Tapatalk app.

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