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Could anybody port iOS 4 to the ours SGS? They both have similar hardware
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Porting requires access to sources. Don't expect a positive answer on this thread
Similar hardware? I hope your having a joke, they are very,very different. iOS is a closed source operating system with tight security, even if you had the same hardware it would be very difficult to get it to boot.
Why would you want iOS 4 on an SGS? Not only are they are far from compatible, but the thought of iOS on an Android makes me sick. What improvements does iOS have over Android 2.2.1?
While we're porting obsolete and generally useless software, maybe we can port Donut and Cupcake.
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Could anybody port iOS 4 to the ours SGS? They both have similar hardware
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Next time, please post intelligent questions in this forum.
If you want iOS, go buy an iphone. No one will port it in an android phone but android is being ported to an iphone which just shows how superior android is.
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Oh god please no!!! I don't want a handicapped OS for my phone.
Hm. Why do you feel the need to ask if it is possible to delimb a horse and replace its legs with a bowl of nasty tasting tomatoe soup?
If you want iOS garbage then go buy an iphone4
Why do much bull**** and hate in here? Why all these elitism? We hate apple users because they believe Apple is always superior, but as I see it you guys are not so different here. If someone wants to know if ios can be ported over, it's well WITHIN his Rights to do so. No os is perfect. There are things that ios is better at.
I feel ashamed to post in the same forum as you guys.
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I don't get the strong views either, I have both, what's the problem?
In response to OP I think you already have an answer
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Why do much bull**** and hate in here? Why all these elitism? We hate apple users because they believe Apple is always superior, but as I see it you guys are not so different here. If someone wants to know if ios can be ported over, it's well WITHIN his Rights to do so. No os is perfect. There are things that ios is better at.
I feel ashamed to post in the same forum as you guys.
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My sentiments exactly, it gets like a bear pit in here most days, it's bad enough having to mind a toddler at home all day without having to trawl through countless "keyboard warriors" taking virtual lumps out of each other.
snapper.fishes said:
Why do much bull**** and hate in here? Why all these elitism? We hate apple users because they believe Apple is always superior, but as I see it you guys are not so different here. If someone wants to know if ios can be ported over, it's well WITHIN his Rights to do so. No os is perfect. There are things that ios is better at.
I feel ashamed to post in the same forum as you guys.
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I actually lol'ed at this, no offense!
Soniak said:
Could anybody port iOS 4 to the ours SGS? They both have similar hardware
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Similar only in the crudest of senses. The SGS has a vastly superior CPU.
Regardless of this, the reason WHY you see Android being ported to all sorts of things it was never designed for (netbooks, Iphone3gs, HTC HD2, etc...) is because Android is an open platform with available source.
The reason why you do not see things like IOS or Windows Mobile being ported, is because both are closed platforms with no source.
Whether it'd be desirable to tinker with IOS on different hardware is less an issue than whether it's actually possible. Though nothing is intrinsically impossible, I wouldn't go around holding my breath on this one.
masterotaku said:
Similar only in the crudest of senses. The SGS has a vastly superior CPU.
Regardless of this, the reason WHY you see Android being ported to all sorts of things it was never designed for (netbooks, Iphone3gs, HTC HD2, etc...) is because Android is an open platform with available source.
The reason why you do not see things like IOS or Windows Mobile being ported, is because both are closed platforms with no source.
Whether it'd be desirable to tinker with IOS on different hardware is less an issue than whether it's actually possible. Though nothing is intrinsically impossible, I wouldn't go around holding my breath on this one.
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SGS has basicly the same CPU/GPU as the Iphone4 did you know? Its just clocked at 800mhz and uses GX 545 gpu while we have 550 (I think I got the numbers right) Also Samsung builds the CPU's for Apple while LG makes the screens. Anyways no biggy. On a dif topic I like how they are porting over Android to Iphone4 now (Iphone 3G/no 3GS). IF someone somehow manages to port over ios to SGS it would be shut down in a micron by Apples lawyers
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Similar hardware? I hope your having a joke, they are very,very different. iOS is a closed source operating system with tight security, even if you had the same hardware it would be very difficult to get it to boot.
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Oh please don't say tight. Android are very similar in Security, maybe a bit better. I read a analysis about this yesterday on heise security. Everything big with a locked bootloader, is a meal for hackers like fail0verflow.
To the Questioner. I hope you are joking. Not only the OS is diffrent based additionally the hardware is a little better. It's not the same SOC. Maybe you should by iPhone (personified) and live in ignorance what's happening in your OS.
So don't bother, the most people do that.
Ubuntu just released Ubuntu phone os as see running on a galaxy nexus. This thing looks wonderful and I can wait to see it come to the nexus 4. Check this out
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3827922/ubuntu-phone-os-announcement
If it was up to me I think this is what android should evolve into even if it meant Google buying Ubuntu.
This is very well thought out is which basically uses the entire phone screen things are done through swypes and speech and everything looks like it works. The only thing may be app support.
Here is a hands on video by The Verge and Engadget
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3828266/ubuntu-phone-os-hands-on
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
heat361 said:
Ubuntu just released Ubuntu phone os as see running on a galaxy nexus. This thing looks wonderful and I can wait to see it come to the nexus 4. Check this out
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3827922/ubuntu-phone-os-announcement
If it was up to me I think this is what android should evolve into even if it meant Google buying Ubuntu.
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Before becoming an android fan I always thought that it would be better to have a full fledge os and not what android had to offer. I would love a.port of this on my tablet. Just running a full office suite on my tab or phone is a dream come true
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danyal241 said:
Before becoming an android fan I always thought that it would be better to have a full fledge os and not what android had to offer. I would love a.port of this on my tablet. Just running a full office suite on my tab or phone is a dream come true
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This looks amazing I really think Google should purchase Ubuntu.They would have a desktop is and a phone is while they could intergrate their play store along with their core Google services.
Edit:I updated the thread with a hands on by The Verge
This is great. Thanks for sharing.
danyal241 said:
Before becoming an android fan I always thought that it would be better to have a full fledge os and not what android had to offer. I would love a.port of this on my tablet. Just running a full office suite on my tab or phone is a dream come true
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Its not a full fledged Linux OS its Ubuntu's version of a phone OS, basically Ubuntu Android. The docking mentioned in the promo sounds like the Motorola Atrix concept all over. There are developers who have ported Ubuntu to other phones but they pretty much had limited usability for lack of drivers; no wifi, data, etc. This should port over easier as it uses android drivers. Also sounds like all android apps will not work with this?
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This is great. Thanks for sharing.
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It is great there is a little lag but this is pre release software and I believe it could be easily fixed.But even with the lag on a galaxy nexus I think this would run beautifully smooth on a nexus 4.
Edit:Thread updated with engadgets hands on
kzoodroid said:
Its not a full fledged Linux OS its Ubuntu's version of a phone OS, basically Ubuntu Android. The docking mentioned in the promo sounds like the Motorola Atrix concept all over. There are developers who have ported Ubuntu to other phones but they pretty much had limited usability for lack of drivers; no wifi, data, etc. This should port over easier as it uses android drivers. Also sounds like all android apps will not work with this?
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Yep it doesn't look like android apps would work, but if they could make that work or even evolve android into something like this it would be cool.
What's the definition of "full fledged" Linux OS? We're getting close on the kernel. Otherwise install Busybox and you're there, IMO
Exactly like Ubuntu's Desktop the limitations here will be apps.. I prefer my Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux Mint + Cinnamon over all OS's including Chrome & MacOS, but the lack of apps (which isn't changing anytime soon) will be insurmountable
crachel said:
What's the definition of "full fledged" Linux OS? We're getting close on the kernel. Otherwise install Busybox and you're there, IMO
Exactly like Ubuntu's Desktop the limitations here will be apps.. I prefer my Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux Mint + Cinnamon over all OS's including Chrome & MacOS, but the lack of apps (which isn't changing anytime soon) will be insurmountable
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Yes the os is is nice and it does work, but the major downfall of this is app support and developer support;they need this to take Ubuntu phone os to the top.
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Its not a full fledged Linux OS its Ubuntu's version of a phone OS, basically Ubuntu Android. The docking mentioned in the promo sounds like the Motorola Atrix concept all over. There are developers who have ported Ubuntu to other phones but they pretty much had limited usability for lack of drivers; no wifi, data, etc. This should port over easier as it uses android drivers. Also sounds like all android apps will not work with this?
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Well, it'll obviously be a lot better when Ubuntu creates it rather than uninvolved developers, of course. Ubuntu is usually not one to disappoint.
Also, I don't really get why they skipped the Nexus 4 and went with the Galaxy Nexus. Maybe it's just cause not enough people own the Nexus 4 yet, and due to supply as well, rather than demand.
I think this should be Android based, like TouchWiz. Then we could just easily flash it like a custom ROM and all our apps would be compatible and available from GPlay.
I think I'll still try this out though, looks promising.
Did I hear that it won't come to phones until 2014?
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Did I hear that it won't come to phones until 2014?
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Purchasable phones is what they meant by that. The firmware images are being released soon, which should find there way to a multitude of devices shortly.
It'll be much better than any other OS as long as it gets support, the desktop version is amazing but lack of developer support means you have to use Windows still. I'm not a fan of stock Android, Google never seem to be able to keep up, Touchwiz is so much better. So I cannot wait to see what Ubuntu will turn out like after a few revisions.
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What's the definition of "full fledged" Linux OS? We're getting close on the kernel. Otherwise install Busybox and you're there, IMO
Exactly like Ubuntu's Desktop the limitations here will be apps.. I prefer my Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux Mint + Cinnamon over all OS's including Chrome & MacOS, but the lack of apps (which isn't changing anytime soon) will be insurmountable
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There was a dev in the Incredible forums who tried to port Ubuntu to the phone, he got it to boot and then pretty much quit. I think the same thing was also tried with the Eris back in 2010.
Was just reading multiple articles on this seems very promising
sent from one of the NEXUS twins 4 or 7.....
I am guessing its's going to be open source like openwebos(so we can port it ). Can anyone confirm that?
It's just the beginning...
Ubuntu for Android is coming next year. I did a quick article for these guys below. About half way down is the video demonstrations of Ubuntu for Android, which is separate from Ubuntu Phone from what I understand.
http://androidlexicon.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/ubuntu-for-android.html
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Ubuntu for Android is coming next year. I did a quick article for these guys below. About half way down is the video demonstrations of Ubuntu for Android, which is separate from Ubuntu Phone from what I understand.
http://androidlexicon.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/ubuntu-for-android.html
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From what I heard they are 2 separate things,but both os can be docked to display ubuntu
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I am guessing its's going to be open source like openwebos(so we can port it ). Can anyone confirm that?
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Yes it will be opened source just like Ubuntu. The Ubuntu phone images should be out for the galaxy nexus in a week
Edit:for those wondering how to build apps for it or are curious about apps they have a QML toolkit read more here
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/app-ecosystem
http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/
didn't see anybody else posting this and I have seen a lot of interest. Ubuntu will make the software readily available for Nexus 4 and Galaxy nexus starting this thursday. Full article on C-Net. If I just missed another thread, feel free to delete this one
"Is your Android phone too easy to use? Worry not! Canonical, the company behind the mildly popular Linux distribution Ubuntu, has promised an exclusive preview version of its Ubuntu Phone software will be available to download from 21 February -- this Thursday.
It won't be open to every Android user though, with only two lucky Nexus devices able to install the preview -- the ageing Galaxy Nexus and the magnificent Nexus 4."
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/nexus-4-galaxy-nexus-enjoy-exclusive-ubuntu-phone-preview-50010462/
AW: Ubuntu Phone OS available 2/21
Nexus 4 aswell? Nice! Tought Ubuntu OS will be Galaxy Nexus only at first.
already a thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078727&highlight=ubuntu+os
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Please use the existing thread
Ubuntu phone os
or our forum
Ubuntu for Phones
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Is it possible to run an actual Windows Rom in an android device? I remember hearing about this probably a few years ago with wp7, I could've sworn people had figured it out. I've got an AT&T note and miss Windows, but not enough to permanently switch to a Windows device. Any ideas?
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Never
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Never
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Ignore the genius who says never. It comes down to hardware support. If you had two phones on the market with identical hardware, one running Windows Phone, one running Android, then you might be able to switch the bootloaders and operating systems. WP8 has a new secure boot which I know less about. WP7 didn't, but some of the bootloaders were still locked.
So yes, it's possible, but I don't know of a compatible Android device. The first I'd look at would be the ATIV S and the Galaxy S III, but I expect they're very different. There are a few slightly more complicated options but they're not really worth mentioning because.. developers just aren't interested.
I'm sure you could do it if you were willing to give up the rest of your life for a while. Shame isn't it? You'd think MS would release Windows Phone as a download for existing popular handsets in the same way Canonical is doing for their fledgling OS.
First of all, my apologies if this thread belongs to Q&A - I was not sure mods.
I read about Jolla Sailfish OS being open source. Is it possible to port it on Galaxy S? I have seen no discussion about it. Sailfish OS does look promising.
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I'm curious, what is the advantage of Jolla vs android?
For a short while I was excited to hear ubuntu was making its way to phones, then with a mix of going from ubuntu to arch on my desktop and the realization that ubuntu doesn't have much of an advantage over android anyway I kinda forgot about it...
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http://mer-project.blogspot.co.at/2013/04/wayland-utilizing-android-gpu-drivers.html?m=1
Sailfish uses mer as core of its system. I once read a blogpost...see above...that they try to make the display server wayland,the new xserver replacement compatible with android graphic drivers. I think it will be possible to get the rest of the drivers also somehow working....well i want sailfish too but atm i can only wait
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Hr Kristian said:
I'm curious, what is the advantage of Jolla vs android?
For a short while I was excited to hear ubuntu was making its way to phones, then with a mix of going from ubuntu to arch on my desktop and the realization that ubuntu doesn't have much of an advantage over android anyway I kinda forgot about it...
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android has the fragmentation and lagging problem after a certain usage. also the interface of jolla is really nice , why buying a Jolla if SGS still has some fight left in its big heart?? :victory::victory::victory:
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http://mer-project.blogspot.co.at/2013/04/wayland-utilizing-android-gpu-drivers.html?m=1
Sailfish uses mer as core of its system. I once read a blogpost...see above...that they try to make the display server wayland,the new xserver replacement compatible with android graphic drivers. I think it will be possible to get the rest of the drivers also somehow working....well i want sailfish too but atm i can only wait
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Aye Wayland is exciting, but what with all the snags it runs into (Ubuntu abandoning it, getting forked) the relatively small team will probably not complete it in a few years yet...
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Sailfish OS Now Supports Android Apps Officially
Maybe this will be an added incentive along with the refreshing UI.of Sailfish os.
Link : http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/09/sailfish-os-now-supports-android-apps-officially/?utm_source=mobile
I'd really like to have Jolla OS on our phone to try Now that its out ...
Crazy what all is possible ...:good:
YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y64ja7WBHU8
Looks okay, but there's nothing really groundbreaking about it, or anything that's a real advantage over android considering the customisation you can do with android, or am I missing something?
I had a look at a couple of demo videos for it but I can't see any great things about it that would make me want to change OS. I've already got a hidden status bar(expanded desktop), on off toggles for things I like to be able to quickly switch(quick settings), and nice looking customised home screens.
Controlling apps from their multitasking thumbnails was the only real new thing I saw, and about the only use for that is pausing music or skipping tracks (which was obviously the way it was demonstrated in their videos, because it's pretty much the only use for such a feature). With any other app you need to be able to see what you're doing, so even that is a bit pointless.
Oh, and sailfish is a silly name.
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It`s not about customizations or having something special. It is new and hopefully wont start lagging after one week of heavy use
Proud owner of an ASUS TF300T stock and the "old faithful" SGS i9000 powered by AndroSlim
Anything new is welcome with an open heart. It's not about jumping ship to a new OS ... But trying them is what I am interested in the most.
I still want to user Ubuntu Touch on daily basis but it's the app ecosystem the issue for my daily use.
Is any here can port sailfish os for us
As using android on this device is very laggy even if u flash GB (2.3.x)
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