im going to root my hd soon but im not really sure if there is a way to backup if somehow the root fails and my fire bricks? im new to the whole rooting technique if everything done the way on guides what will actually cause my tablet to brick is it altering files or can just downloading an incompatible app brick?
No, we currently have NO WAY to do a backup.
Is the RISK high? Yes.
Is the PROBABILITY high? Not really.
Basically, if you do brick your device, you are hosed...
But nobody has reported a brick yet, and plenty of people have rooted and done other things to their device.
As always, it's entirely up to you.
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I've been looking at loads of comments from people about using Dutty's ROM and am very tempted to try it but I'd like to know what the odds are like of bricking my HD in the process?
I'm a little paranoid because with my Omnia I did a ROM change successfully but a lot of people brick them and it seems a bit random, so I was wondering if it's the same with the HD, or if they are much 'safer' somehow to update?
Cheers!
Jim
Cret said:
I've been looking at loads of comments from people about using Dutty's ROM and am very tempted to try it but I'd like to know what the odds are like of bricking my HD in the process?
I'm a little paranoid because with my Omnia I did a ROM change successfully but a lot of people brick them and it seems a bit random, so I was wondering if it's the same with the HD, or if they are much 'safer' somehow to update?
Cheers!
Jim
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You can use SD method to flash, it's safety. Or if you use CustomRUU it's safety too, becouse it doesn't format the bootloader... and it changes only the OS, so if the process will be interrupted you will have only to reflash the device.
You can find it in this section in the sticky threads.
Very helpful mate, thanks
The risk isn't much. Think of it as Flashing your BIOS on your PC. if you lose power or something goes wrong u can brick your PC the same way. The risk and reasons are about the same. Make sure you have a full charge, its best to be plugged in on power, flashing from SD is somewhat safer. and even if the flash fails usually its not bricked anyway but you may have to try again or t the rom image on the sd card fro a card reader then goto boot menu again to flash.
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The risk isn't much. Think of it as Flashing your BIOS on your PC. if you lose power or something goes wrong u can brick your PC the same way.
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Thats a very bad comparision. As already said the bootloader doesn't get touched, so you can't brick something at all.
I don't reside in the US so sending my kindle back to amazon would prove to be a little difficult if not expensive.
I've rooted/unlocked android phones before, but the knidle, based on what I've read on diff threads, may be more risky. Is is true that there isn't a way yet of going back to stock if you mess up the stock rom?
I would definitely like to root it to install apps particularly gapps, I've found 2 ways to root it, the automated and the manual, which one is less risky?
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I don't reside in the US so sending my kindle back to amazon would prove to be a little difficult if not expensive.
I've rooted/unlocked android phones before, but the knidle, based on what I've read on diff threads, may be more risky. Is is true that there isn't a way yet of going back to stock if you mess up the stock rom?
I would definitely like to root it to install apps particularly gapps, I've found 2 ways to root it, the automated and the manual, which one is less risky?
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The automated way is definitely going to be the safest way, it eliminates the chance of you imputing a command wrong.
The risk is not in the rooting process itself, it is what people do after the device is rooted that is risky. If you plan on doing mods to the device you should make a backup immediately after root, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930656
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The automated way is definitely going to be the safest way, it eliminates the chance of you imputing a command wrong.
The risk is not in the rooting process itself, it is what people do after the device is rooted that is risky. If you plan on doing mods to the device you should make a backup immediately after root, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930656
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Thanks, will try this tomorrow. hoepfully I don't brick it or something lol
I am new to rooting tablets. I have previously rooted a lot of phone, messed with the system UI, framework, kernels, flashing, CWM and all. I dont know anything about the tablets, so therefore, like a noob, I am scared of what works and what doesnt.. can anyone guide me with whats a Recovery I can use that really works? Ive heard of CWM and TRCP... or something like that. I lean more towards CWM. What are some good ROMs, ( I would love a CM ROM), kernels, rooting methods, unlocking boot loader and all. Help a noob out, I've been doing a lot of reading, and yet I'm still undecided. Just looking for the safe ones, Im on 4.2.1 Jellybean.
You tried searching and reading the stickies, right?
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You tried searching and reading the stickies, right?
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Yeah, I've read everything, Ive even downloaded some software to root it. i got a recovery and rooting software that unlocks bootloader as well, buutt, I dont know if its safe, so I said I might just give it a shot to see which ones would be the safest and most reliable.
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jesus359 said:
Yeah, I've read everything, Ive even downloaded some software to root it. i got a recovery and rooting software that unlocks bootloader as well, buutt, I dont know if its safe, so I said I might just give it a shot to see which ones would be the safest and most reliable.
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The method involving using Fastboot is safest i think, i've used that on both my nexus 7's, be prepared to loose all your data though when you unlock the boot loader
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I was rooted on 7.3.0 from the day I got my replacement kfhd less than a month ago. I forgot to turn off automatic updates and yesterday 7.3.1 installed and immediately I'm having problems. Some apps I had installed are gone, like No Lock and Apex Launcher (I'm almost positive that's which one I was using) for starters. I tried to reinstall No Lock since I have Nova Launcher working and I'm sick of unlocking twice. Downloaded No Lock, went into ES File Explorer to move it, and there is NOTHING in /data/app to move.
I'm almost afraid to see what other problems there are. I downloaded a root checker and it says I'm not rooted anymore. Well that explains a lot. However Google Play has hung around problem free, which you did need root for.
How should I proceed? I fried my fiancee's kfhd a month ago after I rooted it. I was attempting to install TWRP, screwed up, and bricked it. She went out and bought another tablet. I called Amazon and told them it just died for no reason so they sent a replacement which became mine. If I brick another kfhd I don't think Amazon is going to want to replace it again.
I know 7.3.1 was just sent OTA and not to everyone a few days ago (found that info on the forum somewhere) so has anyone re-rooted after getting it? What other things can I safely try?
It might seem kind of obvious but why not simply root again? I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. I rooted my KFHD running 7.2.3 with Kindle Fire First Aide no problem. I'd imagine that 7.2.1 should be no problem. If you follow the steps in this thread it's pretty easy.
Also I should mention that it's pretty difficult to really brick your KFHD. If you get a factory cable (either make one yourself or order one from SkOrPn on here for pretty cheap) you can almost always fix any software problems. The factory cable essentially puts the KFHD in "factory" mode which lets you flash it in fastboot almost regardless of anything you've manage to damage. I messed up my KFHD pretty bad (stuck at the boot logo and would refuse to be be detected at all via usb) but with a factory cable it was super easy to fix.
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It might seem kind of obvious but why not simply root again? I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. I rooted my KFHD running 7.2.3 with Kindle Fire First Aide no problem. I'd imagine that 7.2.1 should be no problem. If you follow the steps in this thread it's pretty easy.
Also I should mention that it's pretty difficult to really brick your KFHD. If you get a factory cable (either make one yourself or order one from SkOrPn on here for pretty cheap) you can almost always fix any software problems. The factory cable essentially puts the KFHD in "factory" mode which lets you flash it in fastboot almost regardless of anything you've manage to damage. I messed up my KFHD pretty bad (stuck at the boot logo and would refuse to be be detected at all via usb) but with a factory cable it was super easy to fix.
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Rooting it again would probably work from what I know about rooting phones. I'm kinda hoping someone else has already done it so I know for certain that it's gonna work before I do it.
Maybe I have to be the person who finds out if simply rooting again fixes the issue.
Rooting again should fix the problem. I would try that first.
Worst case scenario it doesn't help and you have to do a factory restore or re-flash in which case you can simply restore a clean copy and then either disable the OTA updates or else, better yet, let it update all the way to 7.2.3 and then root the latest version.
Yeah, I think I'll give rooting it a shot. I PM'ed the guy that made the Kinology 7.3.1 ROM about rooting and then flashing recovery from where I'm at right now since I can't post in the “development" forum until I have 10 posts. He also said it should go fine from where I'm at. I'd love to flash that ROM, I'm just afraid of screwing up since I massively screwed up the first time I flashed a recovery.
I'll give it a shot tonight when I've got time to mess with it.
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Yeah, I think I'll give rooting it a shot. I PM'ed the guy that made the Kinology 7.3.1 ROM about rooting and then flashing recovery from where I'm at right now since I can't post in the “development" forum until I have 10 posts. He also said it should go fine from where I'm at. I'd love to flash that ROM, I'm just afraid of screwing up since I massively screwed up the first time I flashed a recovery.
I'll give it a shot tonight when I've got time to mess with it.
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It's not hard as long as you follow the instructions... It works flawlessly on mine.
Well I'm happy to say that rooting again after the 7.3.1 update Amazon snuck in on us went perfectly. So when others get that update and aren't sure if they can root again easily I hope they see this thread and know that it is no different than the first time you rooted.
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It's not hard as long as you follow the instructions... It works flawlessly on mine.
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My only concern is messing up the TWRP install. If I actually read the instructions a few times before doing it I shouldn't mess it up this time. I'm gonna look into it some more this week in my spare time and convince myself to do it. The extra encouragement of it working no problem is appreciated.
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Well I'm happy to say that rooting again after the 7.3.1 update Amazon snuck in on us went perfectly. So when others get that update and aren't sure if they can root again easily I hope they see this thread and know that it is no different than the first time you rooted.
My only concern is messing up the TWRP install. If I actually read the instructions a few times before doing it I shouldn't mess it up this time. I'm gonna look into it some more this week in my spare time and convince myself to do it. The extra encouragement of it working no problem is appreciated.
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You're welcome.
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Ok guys and gals, my girlfriend is convinced I'm going to brick my phone and that rooting my phone will somehow "break" it. I've been rooting and modding since the G1 made it's debut, so my question to all of you is essentially, is rooting and flashings roms harming my phone at all? (I doubt it)
Is this some king of joke?
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Is this some king of joke?
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No man im being serious...
And also, you will break your car if you apply a sticker to it or go beyond 100km/h ??
If you followed all the steps without flashing any file wrong nothing wrong will happen
And even if you would by accident flash the Oneplus 3 firmware on your 3t which will softbrick the device, you can just use the Qualcomm recovery tools and restore all the partitions back to factory state.
This device is pretty hard to brick. And as noted, there is the unbrick tool, even if you do. And AFAIK, you can't truly brick flashing ROMs or by rooting. Folks sometimes will be stuck in a "no boot to OS" condition by doing something wrong (or just some condition beyond their control) - which some folks will call a "soft brick". But recovering from such a situation is easy. Just know how to return to stock state, or at least have a TWRP backup, in the event anything goes wrong.
In fact knowing how to do these things makes you better equipped than a user of a "stock" phone (that doesn't have that knowledge); since any device can stop working anytime, even a stock device (such as from a bad update, damaged/corrupt OS, etc.).
Many phone manufacturers and cell carriers want folks to think the device will brick, blow up, etc. if you try to root it. But it's just nonsense, meant to scare you into gaining your rightful control of how the device works.
In fact, OnePlus is very friendly to the mod community. Your warranty is still valid if you unlock the bootloader, root, etc.
Your risk is very low, as long as you understand what you are doing, follow instructions, backup your ROM, etc.