ROM update - Risk of bricking? - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

I've been looking at loads of comments from people about using Dutty's ROM and am very tempted to try it but I'd like to know what the odds are like of bricking my HD in the process?
I'm a little paranoid because with my Omnia I did a ROM change successfully but a lot of people brick them and it seems a bit random, so I was wondering if it's the same with the HD, or if they are much 'safer' somehow to update?
Cheers!
Jim

Cret said:
I've been looking at loads of comments from people about using Dutty's ROM and am very tempted to try it but I'd like to know what the odds are like of bricking my HD in the process?
I'm a little paranoid because with my Omnia I did a ROM change successfully but a lot of people brick them and it seems a bit random, so I was wondering if it's the same with the HD, or if they are much 'safer' somehow to update?
Cheers!
Jim
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You can use SD method to flash, it's safety. Or if you use CustomRUU it's safety too, becouse it doesn't format the bootloader... and it changes only the OS, so if the process will be interrupted you will have only to reflash the device.
You can find it in this section in the sticky threads.

Very helpful mate, thanks

The risk isn't much. Think of it as Flashing your BIOS on your PC. if you lose power or something goes wrong u can brick your PC the same way. The risk and reasons are about the same. Make sure you have a full charge, its best to be plugged in on power, flashing from SD is somewhat safer. and even if the flash fails usually its not bricked anyway but you may have to try again or t the rom image on the sd card fro a card reader then goto boot menu again to flash.

Psyberd said:
The risk isn't much. Think of it as Flashing your BIOS on your PC. if you lose power or something goes wrong u can brick your PC the same way.
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Thats a very bad comparision. As already said the bootloader doesn't get touched, so you can't brick something at all.

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Flashing rom for WM6.5

Hi,
I am looking more into flashing my rom, and I am really struggling to work out how much is involved as all the guides are in seperate parts. Is there one guide that has everything in it, or can someone help me through the process? My phone arrives tomorrow and i desperately want WM6.5.
All help is much appretiated.
Deren
Intollerant said:
Hi,
I am looking more into flashing my rom, and I am really struggling to work out how much is involved as all the guides are in seperate parts. Is there one guide that has everything in it, or can someone help me through the process? My phone arrives tomorrow and i desperately want WM6.5.
All help is much appretiated.
Deren
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377 .
it is the complete guide..
Thanks!
So when i finish the HSPL bit everything is done? Also is there any preperation I need to do? I have installed MS .NET framework but unsure if I need anything else!
I use USPL via USPL GUI myself to flash my phone, a totally painless process and one that doesn't invalidate your warranty.
Just make sure you sort out the activesync usb settings and away you go.
Mattigan said:
I use USPL via USPL GUI myself to flash my phone, a totally painless process and one that doesn't invalidate your warranty.
Just make sure you sort out the activesync usb settings and away you go.
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as soon as u have flashe any rom other than the stock ur warranty is void.
but to cheat the htc guys u can revert to the stock rom.
in the similar manner u can also revert to the stock spl.
I think Hspl is the better option because u need not run uspl each time and just need to flash the rom as if it were a stock..
and the original asker of the question..
Yes it's all done after getting the HSPL thingy.
the only thing now left is to find urself a suitable rom from the forum and flash it..
cheers.
chetan
Thanks again! I think I am going to do it but I am still really worried as I dont want to damage my phone! At which point in the process am I most likely to cause an error, and what point is the point of no return. If I was to somehow brick the phone, could it be fixed?
Intollerant said:
Thanks again! I think I am going to do it but I am still really worried as I dont want to damage my phone! At which point in the process am I most likely to cause an error, and what point is the point of no return. If I was to somehow brick the phone, could it be fixed?
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Just do not pull out the usb cable during the process.
other than that u r fine..
no probs..
Chances of bricking are less..
and there are guys available in the forum to help u out in any case..
relax and go ahead if u really want 6.5..
Intollerant said:
Thanks again! I think I am going to do it but I am still really worried as I dont want to damage my phone! At which point in the process am I most likely to cause an error, and what point is the point of no return. If I was to somehow brick the phone, could it be fixed?
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It was mentioned earleir to sort out your USB drivers. Here is the Dummies Guide to this.
If things go wrong they are most likely to be due to the wrong SPL version and you then get a blue/green screen when you load the ROM, but you can still recover by loading the correct SPL. I was also very nervous my first time, but thinking back to the difference between the stock ROM and the wonderful ROMs I have used over the past few months, they have made using the phone a pleasure.
Just read Digital Outcasts thread on Flashing and take it slowly and follow step for step and all will be okay. If you read and things do go wrong there are many clever and helpful people on this forum to help you recover
Thanks again. I will ensure I do that first then. Is there anything else I need to do as I really do not want to brick my new expensive phone! Im only 16 so buying a new one wont be easy lol.
Intollerant said:
Thanks again. I will ensure I do that first then. Is there anything else I need to do as I really do not want to brick my new expensive phone! Im only 16 so buying a new one wont be easy lol.
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That should be about it in terms of prep - do you have .net 3.5 installed on the pc also?.
Once you get the phone try to keep the stock ROM on for a few days - you will appreciate the great work the guys like Dutty do a lot more. Also before you flash take ote of the stock ROM version and SPL version so that you can revert to these in the event of needing a warranty claim or service.
Then, just take it nice and SLOW, READ carefully and follow EACH STEP to the letter.
No need to continue with this thread. Any further posts should be in Dummies guide to flashing
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OMG I just flashed my SPL Before my radio >.<!!!!

I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????
what radio did you have? if it was the latest radio to begin with, you are all good. if not, you probably screwed the pooch
Old radio. I was in the process of rooting and thought to myself, "Oh better update the SPL" damn I'm an IDIOT!!! I knew better!!!! >.<
Why is it that every other day someone starts a new thread on bricking their phone?!?! SEARCH! Either way you have a brand new paperweight...I suggest to all that brick their phones...DON'T MONKEY WITH IT! Get a new phone and stick with stock. Cheers
Hi,
Did you already root your phone and flash a modified recovery?
Then copy your firmware to a sdcard as update.zip and you should be able to flash from recovery.
matthenry87 said:
Old radio. I was in the process of rooting and thought to myself, "Oh better update the SPL" damn I'm an IDIOT!!! I knew better!!!! >.<
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matthenry87 said:
I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????
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You should return that phone anyway, the Nexus or some new andro with snap dragon will be released or maybe phone with sense?
Seems you lack common-sense for doing what you did. When you think about it that spl is only for spec roms, so things like cyan dont need it.
bestwebs said:
Hi,
Did you already root your phone and flash a modified recovery?
Then copy your firmware to a sdcard as update.zip and you should be able to flash from recovery.
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Dude, if you flash the danger SPL before the radio you can't get past the G1 screen, ie can't get into recovery, fast boot, anything at all! Hence it being the most notorious way to brick's one's G1.
matthenry87 said:
I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????
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i tells you what you can do. this worked for me. i did the same **** on my replacement g1. i said "when i got the replacement it was running 1.1. i was prompted to update, and i did so. when the phone rebooted it never went past the g1 screen. u have to make big stink about this
i did that and they shipped me one next day air. being that that was the third replacement they sent me within 1 week, and i never had to make an embarrassing thread about bricking my phone
Thanks b0ricuaguerrero that makes me feel a lot better about the phone call I'm bout to make to T-Mobile.
Why does every thread have big-headed flame-whores who just need to feel superior to others?? We all make stupid mistakes and I knew better than to flash the SPL before the radio. I had a stoner moment I guess you could call it. I haven't used a stock rom since I bought the phone when it came out and I don't plan on using one in the future.
I was also thinking.. maybe Armon could add something to the confirmation process of the flash and if the file is *spl*.zip it would remind them they absolutely must flash their radio first. I know some of you might proceed to flame me more, but that probably would have been enough to remind me. Then maybe these brick threads would pop up every week instead of every day XD
I did however post my thread in the correct section though! =P
matthenry87 said:
Why does every thread have big-headed flame-whores who just need to feel superior to others?? We all make stupid mistakes and I knew better than to flash the SPL before the radio. I had a stoner moment I guess you could call it. I haven't used a stock rom since I bought the phone when it came out and I don't plan on using one in the future.
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I agree. I very nearly bricked my phone when first I flashed the new spl. Back then, I was using the old CM recovery (where you had to rename to update.zip), and flashed the update, then renamed the spl, and was about to flash it, but then something told me to double-check... and I realized that the first update I flashed was not the latest radio, but was, in fact, a different update.zip. I was one click away from brick. The thing is, you don't have to be an idiot to brick when you play on XDA.
matthenry87 said:
I was also thinking.. maybe Armon could add something to the confirmation process of the flash and if the file is *spl*.zip it would remind them they absolutely must flash their radio first. I know some of you might proceed to flame me more, but that probably would have been enough to remind me. Then maybe these brick threads would pop up every week instead of every day XD
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You SHOULD suggest that idea to Amon-RA about the reminder for anything with spl in it. Sounds stupid, and sure, idiots shouldn't root their phones, but they do. It would certainly help keep the forums cleaner.
matthenry87 said:
I did however post my thread in the correct section though! =P
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Thank you, times a million, for not posting in Development!
HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
pjcforpres said:
Dude, if you flash the danger SPL before the radio you can't get past the G1 screen, ie can't get into recovery, fast boot, anything at all! Hence it being the most notorious way to brick's one's G1.
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bestwebs said:
HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
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He flashed the spl BEFORE the radio, that always causes a brick, no questions asked. If you flash the spl wrong you cannot get into the OS, Recovery, or Bootloader- essentially you have a very nice paperweight that has a very nice screen
bestwebs said:
HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
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And what exactly does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
OP, really am sorry to hear you made a mistake you knew better than. Hopefully you can get T-Mo to replace it for you using the "failed update" method.

Help Me Please

I feel I've made a terrible (and stupid) mistake. I decided to unroot my phone from cyanogen roms. I read a how to guide that I guess was outdated because now I have android 1.0 firmware. The guidw was [how to] unroot by tubaking182 (absolutely zero offense to him, not his fault, I'm stupid, etc etc.) So I now have stock version 1.0. There's no check for system updates under about phone in settings so I can't do that. There are file manager apps that I could use to rename the necessary updates into update.zip, but there's no apps available like download crutch so I can download them. I also can't enter recovery. It gives me a triangle with an exclamation inside next to a image of a phone and that's it and I have no idea how to install an update without recovery mode. As I'm sure you've noticed by now, I'm the epitome of newb and feel free to laugh at my failure. I just really need someone to help me and would be eternally grateful. In all likelihood, I'll need step by step instructions on what to do. I know this is a lot to ask and I've really done nothing to earn this help... I really just need assistance. Thank you to anyone who helps me in advance
Not to be an asshole and say "Shoulda Coulda Woulda" but you really should have done your research before embarking on bricking your phone.
ItsAndroidsWorld had many videos on You Tube. Look for ones on how to root, then how to install the death spl, then look for the ones with Super D or FastTest .. as it seems as though they are probably the best roms for everyday use at this point.
I've found that using these videos via You Tube is the easiest way to go.
Good Luck.
^^^ ABOVE POST stolen from another similar thread.
psyko-m1 said:
Not to be an asshole and say "Shoulda Coulda Woulda" but you really should have done your research before embarking on bricking your phone.
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he didn't brick his phone, don't scare him
To OP: The same happened to me when I was a n00b at this ****.
Dude, google is your friend.
Calm down.
tsk tsk tsk.....Im gonig to say this....WRONG SECTION
but I will be nice as well. just find the updates on google from 1.0 to 1.5 and oh yeah to get back into recovery from the triangle withthe !...alt L...but if you somehow brick ya phone youe fault not mine next time do ya research before you mess with ya phone
Technically speaking he is in a DEFCON 2 "Brick" situation.
Sorry.
psyko-m1 said:
Technically speaking he is in a DEFCON 2 "Brick" situation.
Sorry.
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Well he's in the wet cement
SeEsAw12 said:
Well he's in the wet cement
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Or...
You are late for work and have a flat...
click on this http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/htc-mytouch-3g-magic/:cool:
remove the cool http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/htc-mytouch-3g-magic/
this website should help you get back on track and you just need to download the nbh file to get it back to cupcake
BUT 0MGAWWZZZ N00BZORZ DO3S 1.0 HAVE A DA SENSE RAOM???
in all seriousness, there's nothing actually wrong with your phone. You completely unrooted it. By following the aforementioned instructions, it'll be easy to reroot and update. What I DO find weird is why you're not getting 1.5 OTA...
although i hate when people post in the wrong section - im in a good mood this morning
http://zenthought.org/content/project/flashrec
not sure if it works in 1.0 - it should as it uses a rather old bug to do so
Easy as pie...just follow the guide in my sig.
=)
To those who say I bricked it, I know that's not the case it still works so I obviously didn't brick it... not that fail thankfully.
To thenameismax, AHA! I did not know about alt+l retrieving text so thank you thank you thank you. I just need to get the necessary updates and copy them to sd card root, rename update.zip/install one at a time... I think lol
Thanks again to all who helped and sorry about the wrong section. When I was rooting, it was in development. I assumed that unrooting would be too and therefore problems with that... further fail.
afiellerddr said:
To those who say I bricked it, I know that's not the case it still works so I obviously didn't brick it... not that fail thankfully.
To thenameismax, AHA! I did not know about alt+l retrieving text so thank you thank you thank you. I just need to get the necessary updates and copy them to sd card root, rename update.zip/install one at a time... I think lol
Thanks again to all who helped and sorry about the wrong section. When I was rooting, it was in development. I assumed that unrooting would be too and therefore problems with that... further fail.
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yeah man no problem. good luck.
Don't do anything. In a day or two you get an OTA update.
You can force the update like people have mentioned, but as long as you can hold off for a day or two you dont need to.
BTW, at some point you will see the E or 3G icon downloading like crazy and you dont know why. It is downloading the update. Stay away from task killers and in my experience it is good to be around wifi.
Just relax.
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roms

hi guys sort of a noobish question but does flashing to many roms damage your sgs?
No, it will not.
It is like installing windows or linux on your computer.
You can do it hundreds of time, you will never damage anything.
The best point is that you can always flash back the original samsung rom and have your original phone back
Etienne38 said:
No, it will not.
It is like installing windows or linux on your computer.
You can do it hundreds of time, you will never damage anything.
The best point is that you can always flash back the original samsung rom and have your original phone back
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yea i know so flashing tons of roms wont damage my sgs thanks
But be careful with bootloaders.. when flashing these, it might brick your phone.
Erakko said:
But be careful with bootloaders.. when flashing these, it might brick your phone.
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I'm not that noobish I was just wondering and the system is allmost unbrickable
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Galaxy Mini Brick BootLoader

My phone is bricked by ROM manager. My phone can't boot into recovery mode, downloading mode nor normal phone. The phone charges the battery so there is still hope to fix it. I also have a JIG Usb just incase. if you got any questions you need to ask, please ask. I really want my phone back.
Darth343 said:
I also have a JIG Usb
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see this video
Can someone answer me - WHY are you using ROM manager when it's known that it kills our Galaxy Mini? Is it really that hard to use Odin, or just flash CWM recovery through the stock one?
Guess some people love to learn it the hard way. You have a unrepairable (at least at home) BRICK!
domcale said:
Can someone answer me - WHY are you using ROM manager when it's known that it kills our Galaxy Mini? Is it really that hard to use Odin, or just flash CWM recovery through the stock one?
Guess some people love to learn it the hard way. You have a unrepairable (at least at home) BRICK!
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Sorry! Just a thought came to my mind can it b there any solution for this evergreen problem? Like newbies r bricking their phone again & again. ( like warning in stickies) . Just thinking! !! That's all.....
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You have no reason to be sorry . It's a great idea to put a warning message about ROM Manager in a sticky. However, i once was a total noob too, and i flashed CWM using Odin, it didn't even came to my mind to use ROM Manager.
Reading a couple of different tutorials and educationg yourself before doing anything is the best possible thing someone can do to prevent situations like this.But, like i said, some people have money to waste
lol ... ROM Manager is screwing up everyones phone. Even my friend's mini bricked. He was unlucky that his warranty had got over. He asked the samsung service center and they told him that it would cost $90 for a new motherboard. He uses his galaxy mini as a paper weight now. Rather buy a new phone than buy a motherboard for $90.
If your phone is under warranty, you can get your phone fixed for free in samsung service center( free new motherboard ). Even I bricked my phone when I was a noob with ROM Manager thankfully my warranty was valid that time.
Although I was able to use ROM Manager with no problems.
domcale said:
You have no reason to be sorry . It's a great idea to put a warning message about ROM Manager in a sticky. However, i once was a total noob too, and i flashed CWM using Odin, it didn't even came to my mind to use ROM Manager.
Reading a couple of different tutorials and educationg yourself before doing anything is the best possible thing someone can do to prevent situations like this.But, like i said, some people have money to waste
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One real problem is that Rom Manager comes by default on most CM7 based roms. So most new users while experimenting might brick their phone by accident.
TheWhisp said:
Although I was able to use ROM Manager with no problems.
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You were lucky, I guess
anshul sood said:
One real problem is that Rom Manager comes by default on most CM7 based roms. So most new users while experimenting might brick their phone by accident.
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I agree, but nobody forces them to experiment with something they have no knowledge of. Phones are not toys to play with (to some extent )
A big warning in the general and development section would be enough.
domcale said:
I agree, but nobody forces them to experiment with something they have no knowledge of. Phones are not toys to play with (to some extent )
A big warning in the general and development section would be enough.
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Most new users don't browse the stickies, just notice the large no. of redundant and useless threads. They just open the thread pertaining to the rom they want and that's that. It would be nice if each Rom had either the rom manager removed or a warning with the download link itself
never say to anyone that rom manager's brick cannot be recovered in home, it can be
the only step is just press volume down home power button but without panicking, panicking is the main reason of can't able to get into download mode
then just flash with odin, dont think it cannot get into dl mode, dl mode is controlled by bootloader and bootloader is not removed by rom manager
Unsuccesfull flash of bootloader hard-bricks our device, so you can't enter DL mode.
You can always give it a shot with a USB JIG* tho. But in most cases, the only thing that helps is JTAG.
*USB JIG - a 301k resistor between the 4th and 5th pin on the microUSB connector.
Tried that.
I've seen that video like about a thousand times. No luck i even went to a repair men today, he said your phone is dead if it can't go in to recovery menu. Is there any other way i can repair my phone? Sorry for late VERY reply
Yes, either use JTAG or send it to the service center.
Brick caused by rom manager is absolute
Nothing can be done
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Me to I used it for making backups, but currently, I'm using cm 10 without ROM Manager.
Same problem with me the board was not responding so Samsung service centre changed my board.
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If there isn't really anyway, then i'll just buy a new phone.
Darth343 said:
If there isn't really anyway, then i'll just buy a new phone.
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Sorry you had to learn it the hard way. When you're new in this world it's easy to 'trust' all CM standard apps. Nevertheless: using CM means you're a root user. Your phone is rooted which means you can seriously damage your phone when you don't know what youre doing. That's exactly the reason why your phone is NOT rooted when you buy it, and your garantee is void when you root it yourself!
Some of these apps provide a warning: with great power comes great responsability!
Nevertheless: the first thing i do when i buy a new Android is rooting it! But a general warning is at place: root apps can damage your phone. Especially those to install roms. Even with a proper CWM you can flash a wrong or faulty Rom. The risk of bricking your phone is always there.
So think twice when you buy a new phone and read all about flashing on XDA!

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