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Advantages of 1.33.2005?

I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?

xsnipuhx said:
I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?
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You can run Cyan on HardSPL or even the stock SPL. You only need the Haykuro SPL for more internal storage space for the OS in the phone, which allows for bigger ROMs to be used. It will also give you adequate space for whatever you may want on your phones internal memory

Well I am running HardSPL atm, but Hero kind of intrigues me and I wouldnt mind trying it out. But if really doesn't help out that much, I guess I'm going to stick with my setup right now. ty B-man0007

Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.

h.nocturna said:
Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.
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I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.

xsnipuhx said:
I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.
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Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)

B-man007 said:
Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)
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You sir make a good point, I think I'll be staying at the HardSPL then.

If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...

h.nocturna said:
If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...
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Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide

Haykuro's SPL is my favorite, because all that extra space makes things run much faster, on top of giving more room to Cache's if you have Apps2SD. Big time themes also fit onto it, and if you follow instructions closely, should have no problem installing it.

xsnipuhx said:
Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide
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I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens

h.nocturna said:
I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens
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I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!

lukekirstein said:
I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!
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I'm running JacHero 2.5 w/o Rosie and my friend is using Cy and he was the one that pointed out myne may be even faster and he on Cy 3.6.7.2. That was from his mouth not mine. Not to mention There's now a go around to make sure you get EVERY text message on Hero so you never have to miss another one again

so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?

xsnipuhx said:
so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?
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If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!

AdrianK said:
If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!
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Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?

you can still brick your phone even if you do everything right
xsnipuhx said:
Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?
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It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?

I'm actually in the middle of backing up my SD card and setting up another SD card with the SPL update on it then I'm going to flash it. put the cyanogen rom on my partitioned card and hope everything goes smooth, ill report back when I'm done. Anyone know how to flash my EXT2 partition so i can start fresh?

ei8htohms said:
It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?
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haha ya as soon as i heard cyan bricked it i wouldn't touch the dangerspl. thats when i stopped reading all the threads to insure i didn't get a brick lol
but he did flash the dangerspl after people said that it wouldnt flash with his recovery just to test it... so theirs still a chance i might do it lol
please note that there are apparently different versions of the 26I radio. Make sure you flash the one haykuro posted for safetys sake

Should I wipe before I flash the Radio and stuff from haykuros google page?

Looking for a little clarification on rooting

I am fairly new to rooting, but thanks to this great website and all your inputs I have learned so much over the past month.
I first rooted my G1 using the 1-click method which was great, but now my earpiece has blown I will be receiving a new handset next week. So I learned how to properly downgrade and install stock firmware for my old handset.
When I receive my new handset, I decided to take the plunge and root the traditional way for 2 reasons.. 1- to learn a different way and 2- its possible the security hole may be patched by then rendering the 1-click useless.
Anyway, after reading all the varying posts on how to downgrade/root/flash custom rom I am still left with a little confusion so hopefully someone can clear this up for me.
When actually rooting, I have seen methods to type various things in the telnet window, and another method to just rerun the .apk and select "protect root". What is the difference between these two methods? Do they both accomplish the same task of making a permanent root? One method actually said to download the JFreke rom to fix permissions to root, bo no other method mentioned that. Is that even necessary?
Also, I know that with Cyanogen Roms I do not really need to flash to "hard spl" if I decide to stay with cm roms, and cm recovery also allows the use of nandroid backup as well. The only other argument I have seen is that a hard spl would potentially allow someone to "unbrick" a bricked phone, but from everything I have read, most people have bricked trying to flash the hard spl.
If I am going to stay with cm roms, is there any real benefit to a hard spl other than increasing the brick chance? If I do upgrade the spl, am I correct that it would be done last, after a potential radio update (assuming my replacement handset does not come with the latest radio)?
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks in advance for your help.

This is the best guide I found.
I have done 4 phones using this method with only 2 minor differences.
1) I format the sd card using a microsd card reader instead of the phone.
2) when it says What To Do Now That You Have Root don't download any of the builds listed there, just download the latest cyan stable rom.

This is the guide hehe forgot to link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
Oh and don't worry about swap or apps2sd partitions until after you root and verify that the rom is working with no problems, this will limit the number of variables in case you have troubles.

Thanks for the input.
So do you install hard spl according to that guide or do you skip that and just install the cm rom?
I love the auto apps2sd of cm roms. My phone is currently back on stock cupcake and I miss having all my apps on my 500mb ext 3 partition!

yea you need HardSPL. and use the recovery linked in the guide. Install cyan's recovery later.

This to me is the easiest step by step visual rooting process have done 3 G1 with full success. The newest G1 I had would not let me do the 1 click rooting method.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOo2V9qCauc&feature=related

maybeoneday said:
This to me is the easiest step by step visual rooting process have done 3 G1 with full success. The newest G1 I had would not let me do the 1 click rooting method.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOo2V9qCauc&feature=related
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Yeah I figured the new handset would most likely be patched. What was the result when you tried the 1-click. Would the new phone just not let you install the 1-click apk?

One thing I might add is you can't brick your phone by flashing Hardspl. It's the "danger" spl that has the potential of bricking your phone. Just follow the traditional guide that fingerlickin provided and your good to go.

Thanks for the help!

Anytime.......

Nope sure wouldn't just kept telling me install aborted. I don't no why. It could be some kind of patch. But I went to old faithfull step by step you tube install. Its really a nice video. You can pause the video and root your phone right along with guy doing the video. he also gives you links on the side bar to all files needed in the rooting process.

oh I'm sorry, I actually have one more question.
After flashing the HardSPl, would there ever be a reason to revert back to the original g1 spl? For instance if I had to send a phone back to t-mo, would they know that I am using the hardspl if all I did was reload the dreaimg.rbh rc-29 downgrade, or does that also reflash the spl back to the original?

Yes you would want to unroot phone before sending it to Tmobile, they do not warrenty a rooted phone
Unrooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491350

dcorrea said:
oh I'm sorry, I actually have one more question.
After flashing the HardSPl, would there ever be a reason to revert back to the original g1 spl? For instance if I had to send a phone back to t-mo, would they know that I am using the hardspl if all I did was reload the dreaimg.rbh rc-29 downgrade, or does that also reflash the spl back to the original?
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You shouldn't ever have to go back. T-mo would prolly never check it. Many people have sent there phones in with root access and different things installed. But if you do get paranoid and ever have to do it, just flash RC29 and it will put everything back to stock.

maybeoneday said:
Yes you would want to unroot phone before sending it to Tmobile, they do not warrenty a rooted phone
Unrooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491350
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I turned my phone in with root access and custom splash screen and they didn't say anything. You don't want to make it known that you have done anything to it, but they won't check. When they are sent in they just hook it up with jtag and reflash everything.

supremeteam256 said:
You shouldn't ever have to go back. T-mo would prolly never check it. Many people have sent there phones in with root access and different things installed. But if you do get paranoid and ever have to do it, just flash RC29 and it will put everything back to stock.
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Ok thanks that is what I figured. I actually just unrooted my phone yesterday from cyanogens rom, but I never flashed the SPL (did the 1-click thing originally), but now that I am going to do the original method I wanted to be sure.
I can't wait for my replacement phone to get here next week, because using the stock cupcake rom sux!
Anyway, thanks to everyone who gave their input and helped me learn even more about the process! You all rock!

supremeteam256 said:
I turned my phone in with root access and custom splash screen and they didn't say anything. You don't want to make it known that you have done anything to it, but they won't check. When they are sent in they just hook it up with jtag and reflash everything.
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Really, thats music to my ears. I have often thought it would be a pain if something broke on the phone and I had to try to unroot it before I sent it in. uhhhh like a bricked phone

I work in an electronics repair company and I agree with supremeteam256 about sending your phone in rooted. Our techs don't check for tampering, they just plug it in and use the programs my department writes to test and reflash the devices. Of course our devices are much more complicated but the same NON-Communication between customer service and technicians still exist.
I think the biggest reason for this is because the techs just aren't interested in explaining the technical details to a customer service rep because all they ever get is "huh? wtf is a bootloader?"

Disclaimer:
I'm not claiming that HTC or TMobile will not check or notice that you have rooted your phone. Just illustrating that the repair techs don't want to talk to customer service anymore than you do and would rather just fix the phone and move on to the next one.

Fingerlickin said:
I work in an electronics repair company and I agree with supremeteam256 about sending your phone in rooted. Our techs don't check for tampering, they just plug it in and use the programs my department writes to test and reflash the devices. Of course our devices are much more complicated but the same NON-Communication between customer service and technicians still exist.
I think the biggest reason for this is because the techs just aren't interested in explaining the technical details to a customer service rep because all they ever get is "huh? wtf is a bootloader?"
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Nice breakdown.

danger spl D=

i had to reroot my phone because somehow i lost the recovery image and it wouldnt let me flash anything
so i went re did everything
and i put the danger spl on here and now its stuck at the Tmobile G1 screen
am i screwed or is there something that i can do

Did you flash the radio first?

no
i didnt i couldnt remember which one was first

Remember when you flash the new spl you HAVE TO flash the rom again after it. Did you do that?

it doesnt even let me get to the recovery image to do that i had just flashed to jf 1.51 btw

roguestatuskat said:
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i didnt i couldnt remember which one was first
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if you can't boot into recovery (home and power) or bootloader (camera and power) then your phone is bricked. you can either call your provider or htc and say something about an update, and see if you can get a replacement phone.

can i just go to the tmo store tomarrow? and then they can just give me a new one?

roguestatuskat said:
can i just go to the tmo store tomarrow? and then they can just give me a new one?
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you could try it, sometimes it is better over the phone, but you can try in store.
make sure you sound as dumb as possible, like you don't know anything about xda, rooting, flashing, brick, or anything technical. just say something about an update, then afterward it started back up, that it wouldn't boot.

im mexican so i can be all like
i was like eschool nd then the thing was like update nd i turn off pero no turn back on
phone or Tmo store which one is faster?

roguestatuskat said:
im mexican so i can be all like
i was like eschool nd then the thing was like update nd i turn off pero no turn back on
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haha, i imagine that one would work

hopefully very well

The same exact thing happened to me a few monthes back, I called them and after some bs story they sent out a replacement phone. Then once you get the replacement, you just put your original phone back in the box and ship it back to them.

I have been able to replace a g1 in the store. Just don't take no for an answer. And if you have to take a hostage.

supremeteam256 said:
I have been able to replace a g1 in the store. Just don't take no for an answer. And if you have to take a hostage.
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hahahahaha
but seriously though, you should try a little harder before resorting to re-rooting. You know that it may not always be possible to fall back to RC29 if HTC decides to change the keys, right? You should learn how to troubleshoot so you wont have to resort to that

damnit google, just give us root and this wont happen

roguestatuskat said:
damnit google, just give us root and this wont happen
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lmfao they have. it costs $424 + shipping
google android developer phone

sorry google i apologize despite your cockliness towards cyanogen
what i meant to say is damnit Tmobile give us all dev phones

Rooted phones would do more harm than good to the average user...
As for your situation, does holding the Camera or Home key not boot you into SPL or recovery, respectively?
It's likely than when you went back to RC29 to reroot, your radio is reverted back along with it, and then you flashed the dangerSPL to brick your phone.

cigar3tte said:
Rooted phones would do more harm than good to the average user...
As for your situation, does holding the Camera or Home key not boot you into SPL or recovery, respectively?
It's likely than when you went back to RC29 to reroot, your radio is reverted back along with it, and then you flashed the dangerSPL to brick your phone.
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flashing the DangerSPL then the RC29 image should have any detrimental affect on the phone. People has successfully downgraded directly to RC29 with success.
I've read many posts to that extent, but I cannot be 100% as I haven't done it myself

Bricking your phone.

i am thinking of rooting and modding my nexus one, but i am a little bit afraid of bricking it and voiding the warranty doing so. from what ive read the only way to brick your nexus one atm is to flash the"radio". not exactly sure what the raido is (assuming it has do with carrier/phone frequency).
is there any way to brick your phone besides modding the "radio" which i hope cant happen on accident.
ps:sry if this is a nub question, don't wan to throw 600$ down the toilet.

Okay I really don't quite understand why but EVERY SINGLE DAY there's someone asking the SAME question...
If you search a bit you'll EASILY find an answer to your question.
So, how CAN you brick your phone?
1. Flashing radio and interrupting the process.
2. Flashing SPL and interrupting the process.
NO OTHER WAY.
Cheers.

Possible via subjecting the device to a devastating Solar EMP.
I'm just sayin'.

St.Jimmy! said:
Okay I really don't quite understand why but EVERY SINGLE DAY there's someone asking the SAME question...
If you search a bit you'll EASILY find an answer to your question.
So, how CAN you brick your phone?
1. Flashing radio and interrupting the process.
2. Flashing SPL and interrupting the process.
NO OTHER WAY.
Cheers.
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Or by flashing Radios/SPL that ARE NOT MENT FOR YOUR DEVICE!!! Can't forget that one!!!

martin0285 said:
Or by flashing Radios/SPL that ARE NOT MENT FOR YOUR DEVICE!!! Can't forget that one!!!
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Yeah OK I gave that one for granted, but thanks dude.

St.Jimmy! said:
So, how CAN you brick your phone?
1. Flashing radio and interrupting the process.
2. Flashing SPL and interrupting the process.
NO OTHER WAY.
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Yeah, this is kinda misleading.
Here's another way. Flash your SPL (not interrupt it) and NOT flash to a radio compatible with your SPL will brick it to (or vice versa).
If you double check everything and make sure your good, its easy. If you do it when your tired and in a rush, you can brick pretty easily. Killed my magic that that way.

But currently, on a retail N1, we can only brick it with an incorrect/interrupted radio flash... we cannot flash the SPL "yet!!"

Exactly why I never will flash a radio or spl, though I am good at following directions - I don't have any reception issues, or any other problem that would require a radio change.
Just stay away from it all if you don't want to any troubles or worries.

Or it can be like mine and just randomly die.

Eclair~ said:
Exactly why I never will flash a radio or spl, though I am good at following directions - I don't have any reception issues, or any other problem that would require a radio change.
Just stay away from it all if you don't want to any troubles or worries.
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true, but you have to live on the edge sometime . as others have said don't interrupt the process and make sure you have plenty of battery or you're connected to a power outlet. it can take 5 minutes or so to complete. i was in downtown Boston yesterday/today and ERE27 wasn't working for me... so i flashed ERE36B and it was working much better. go figure. if ERE36B is flaky when i get home, i'll swap back to ERE27.

Though, if you just take your time, not rush, and follow every single instruction (all well written btw, never had a misleading one) you shouldn't have an issue. Just take your time

cortez.i said:
true, but you have to live on the edge sometime . as others have said don't interrupt the process and make sure you have plenty of battery or you're connected to a power outlet. it can take 5 minutes or so to complete. i was in downtown Boston yesterday/today and ERE27 wasn't working for me... so i flashed ERE36B and it was working much better. go figure. if ERE36B is flaky when i get home, i'll swap back to ERE27.
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I thought it would be better to ask here than make a new thread but can you flash a radio strait on the phone and not need a computer? Because I have always thought you needed a computer.

More noob questions.
1)flashing the radio, is there any reason to do so? inst the radio for your carrier, and the only reason to flash it is to unlock the phone (or allow it to be used on a different carrier). mine is unlocked so will i ever have to flash the radio to mod my phone?.
2) flashing SPL, it seems that it is not possible to do so atm for the N1. would there be any reason for me to flash the SPL if im looking to root/use custom roms.
thanks for the replies, sry for nub questions.

flashing the radio is done a few different ways, I prefer the .zip method where you can install it just like a ROM. Very quick and easy.
As far as why you flash them, some people have better luck with different radios. I bounce back and forth between the 3 and haven't found a better one yet. But never the less, newer radios will typically be better as far as signal and connectivity. On my G1, the latest radio bumped me up to 4 bars where before I only had 2....wish there was one for my Nexus that did that! LOL

haxxo said:
(or allow it to be used on a different carrier). mine
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Unlocking your phone in the bootloader sense has nothing to do with being locked to a carrier.

martin0285 said:
Or by flashing Radios/SPL that ARE NOT MENT FOR YOUR DEVICE!!! Can't forget that one!!!
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Even that is not even possible on an S-ON Nexus One.

coolbho3000 said:
Even that is not even possible on an S-ON Nexus One.
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flash a radio designed for MyTouch3G and let me know

HELP!!!! S-Unlock Question and insurance claim!!!

I just bought the EVO and ended up giving it to my chick. I have grown to love my Hero way to much to let it go. My chick is very clumsy so I decided to get the insurance. Right after we left the Sprint store I dropped my Hero. The problem that I'm having is that I unlocked my phone with the S-Unlock and I'm worried that a simple RUU will not be enough to pass through Assurion or whatever you call it.
So my question is...will the official RUU be enough? Are there other steps I should take prior to sending it back? Is there any other information I need to know regarding this issue that I haven't mentioned?
I know this is in the Development Thread. I don't think it should be in Q&A due to the possible need for developmental help such as the S-Unlock/Relock or what have you. If an admin thinks it should be somewhere else, please feel free to move it. I just think it fits better here. Thanks!

If you mean you have s off, it will be undone by ruu but only if you did the eng spl, if you did regaw it sticks s off forever. I would've answered this in q and a too.
sent from a series of tubes.

Thanks bud! I'm sure you would have, I just wasn't sure where it should go and since it involved development I stuck it here. If it should be moved I apologize. But thank you so much!
Sent from your mom's HERO200 after I was done with her ;-)

il Duce said:
If you mean you have s off, it will be undone by ruu but only if you did the eng spl, if you did regaw it sticks s off forever. I would've answered this in q and a too.
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So what if you go from regaw s-off to eng-spl to ruu?

Sorry Jason Untevoked forever...no going back.
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA App

mahalocat said:
Sorry Jason Untevoked forever...no going back.
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA App
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I'm not doubting your expertise in any way but that doesn't seem like it makes sense. Anything that could be unlocked should be able to be relocked right? Has it just not been done YET or is it seriously impossible? Just curious....
Sent from your mom's HERO200 after I was done with her ;-)

I'm no insurance whiz...
...but can't you just tell Sprint that you lost your phone and turn it into your TEP plan?

Isn't Regaw's s-off at the radio level? If so find a GSM radio and flash it and brick it.

jasonmaloney said:
So what if you go from regaw s-off to eng-spl to ruu?
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In theory it would go s on. I don't know how deep into code regaw went. It depends I guess on whether regaws is below the bootloader, or part of the bootloader. Obviously the eng spl overwrites regaws bootloader version. I think though -please correct me if I'm wrong- that if you do the spl you can flash HEROC.zip and regaws it's HERCIMG.zip, right? If thats right then I promise regaws sticks, I flashed the spl after unrevoked and still can flash HERCIMG.zip as well as use fastboot commands...
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il Duce said:
In theory it would go s on. I don't know how deep into code regaw went. It depends I guess on whether regaws is below the bootloader, or part of the bootloader. Obviously the eng spl overwrites regaws bootloader version. I think though -please correct me if I'm wrong- that if you do the spl you can flash HEROC.zip and regaws it's HERCIMG.zip, right? If thats right then I promise regaws sticks, I flashed the spl after unrevoked and still can flash HERCIMG.zip as well as use fastboot commands...
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im not awesomely experienced with the s-off methods, but i do know that i have only used eng spl to s-off.. i havent used regaws or unrevoked, and i flash HERCIMG.zip and use fastboot commands..
but just for a weird series of events, i flashed my brother-in-law's hero with eng spl and i couldnt get it to flash a HERCIMG.zip, i didnt try a HEROC.zip (didnt have time, i was upgrading him to GB and .35 kernel and s-off was just extra).. so im not sure.. i just know mine flashes HERCIMG.zip and i have only used eng-spl..

OK GUYS!!!!!!!! Here's the verdict....
I flashed the HERCIMG.ZIP found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804692
Sprint took the phone, no questions asked, and told me to come back in 30 minutes to pick up my newly screened phone.
I DID USE UNREVOKED FOREVER!!!
After the reboot I tried to get back in to recovery and got the HTC black splash screen with the red x. Hboot still booted, however, and I can flash another HERCIMG.ZIP as soon as I get it back. BUT, when I talked to the Sprint guy he seemed cool so I told him what was up. He said that I knew more than he did and that he never would have known to check.
So....conclusion? Sprints employees aren't very privy to the information we all are. They don't know how to check or what to check. So, for now, we can fly under the radar....for now ;-)

abadasstanker69 said:
OK GUYS!!!!!!!! Here's the verdict....
I flashed the HERCIMG.ZIP found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804692
Sprint took the phone, no questions asked, and told me to come back in 30 minutes to pick up my newly screened phone.
I DID USE UNREVOKED FOREVER!!!
After the reboot I tried to get back in to recovery and got the HTC black splash screen with the red x. Hboot still booted, however, and I can flash another HERCIMG.ZIP as soon as I get it back. BUT, when I talked to the Sprint guy he seemed cool so I told him what was up. He said that I knew more than he did and that he never would have known to check.
So....conclusion? Sprints employees aren't very privy to the information we all are. They don't know how to check or what to check. So, for now, we can fly under the radar....for now ;-)
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i wondered if that would be the case.. i have had to talk to sprint a lot in the past month because of signal issues.. and everytime i talk to someone, they always want to push some sort of update to my phone.. and they say well your phone rejected the update, so then they want to troubleshoot it.. so i end up telling them that my phone is rooted, and if i really need to update that i can do it later, and ask them what PRL i should be running and what not.. i have confused more advanced techs for sprint, because they think they know it all, but a lot of them dont know much about rooted phones.. i have only come in contact with one tech who knew anything about it..
maybe sprint should hire us

pstevep said:
i wondered if that would be the case.. i have had to talk to sprint a lot in the past month because of signal issues.. and everytime i talk to someone, they always want to push some sort of update to my phone.. and they say well your phone rejected the update, so then they want to troubleshoot it.. so i end up telling them that my phone is rooted, and if i really need to update that i can do it later, and ask them what PRL i should be running and what not.. i have confused more advanced techs for sprint, because they think they know it all, but a lot of them dont know much about rooted phones.. i have only come in contact with one tech who knew anything about it..
maybe sprint should hire us
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True enough my good sir. I just picked it up. I'm attaching the picture to prove it in case anyone is concerned about this in the future...thanks for all the help guys!
Admins can close this thread at any point....I think we're done here!

pstevep said:
maybe sprint should hire us
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they can't afford us =D