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Advantages of 1.33.2005?

I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?

xsnipuhx said:
I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?
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You can run Cyan on HardSPL or even the stock SPL. You only need the Haykuro SPL for more internal storage space for the OS in the phone, which allows for bigger ROMs to be used. It will also give you adequate space for whatever you may want on your phones internal memory

Well I am running HardSPL atm, but Hero kind of intrigues me and I wouldnt mind trying it out. But if really doesn't help out that much, I guess I'm going to stick with my setup right now. ty B-man0007

Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.

h.nocturna said:
Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.
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I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.

xsnipuhx said:
I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.
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Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)

B-man007 said:
Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)
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You sir make a good point, I think I'll be staying at the HardSPL then.

If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...

h.nocturna said:
If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...
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Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide

Haykuro's SPL is my favorite, because all that extra space makes things run much faster, on top of giving more room to Cache's if you have Apps2SD. Big time themes also fit onto it, and if you follow instructions closely, should have no problem installing it.

xsnipuhx said:
Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide
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I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens

h.nocturna said:
I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens
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I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!

lukekirstein said:
I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!
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I'm running JacHero 2.5 w/o Rosie and my friend is using Cy and he was the one that pointed out myne may be even faster and he on Cy 3.6.7.2. That was from his mouth not mine. Not to mention There's now a go around to make sure you get EVERY text message on Hero so you never have to miss another one again

so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?

xsnipuhx said:
so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?
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If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!

AdrianK said:
If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!
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Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?

you can still brick your phone even if you do everything right
xsnipuhx said:
Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?
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It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?

I'm actually in the middle of backing up my SD card and setting up another SD card with the SPL update on it then I'm going to flash it. put the cyanogen rom on my partitioned card and hope everything goes smooth, ill report back when I'm done. Anyone know how to flash my EXT2 partition so i can start fresh?

ei8htohms said:
It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?
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haha ya as soon as i heard cyan bricked it i wouldn't touch the dangerspl. thats when i stopped reading all the threads to insure i didn't get a brick lol
but he did flash the dangerspl after people said that it wouldnt flash with his recovery just to test it... so theirs still a chance i might do it lol
please note that there are apparently different versions of the 26I radio. Make sure you flash the one haykuro posted for safetys sake

Should I wipe before I flash the Radio and stuff from haykuros google page?

Looking for a little clarification on rooting

I am fairly new to rooting, but thanks to this great website and all your inputs I have learned so much over the past month.
I first rooted my G1 using the 1-click method which was great, but now my earpiece has blown I will be receiving a new handset next week. So I learned how to properly downgrade and install stock firmware for my old handset.
When I receive my new handset, I decided to take the plunge and root the traditional way for 2 reasons.. 1- to learn a different way and 2- its possible the security hole may be patched by then rendering the 1-click useless.
Anyway, after reading all the varying posts on how to downgrade/root/flash custom rom I am still left with a little confusion so hopefully someone can clear this up for me.
When actually rooting, I have seen methods to type various things in the telnet window, and another method to just rerun the .apk and select "protect root". What is the difference between these two methods? Do they both accomplish the same task of making a permanent root? One method actually said to download the JFreke rom to fix permissions to root, bo no other method mentioned that. Is that even necessary?
Also, I know that with Cyanogen Roms I do not really need to flash to "hard spl" if I decide to stay with cm roms, and cm recovery also allows the use of nandroid backup as well. The only other argument I have seen is that a hard spl would potentially allow someone to "unbrick" a bricked phone, but from everything I have read, most people have bricked trying to flash the hard spl.
If I am going to stay with cm roms, is there any real benefit to a hard spl other than increasing the brick chance? If I do upgrade the spl, am I correct that it would be done last, after a potential radio update (assuming my replacement handset does not come with the latest radio)?
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks in advance for your help.

This is the best guide I found.
I have done 4 phones using this method with only 2 minor differences.
1) I format the sd card using a microsd card reader instead of the phone.
2) when it says What To Do Now That You Have Root don't download any of the builds listed there, just download the latest cyan stable rom.

This is the guide hehe forgot to link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
Oh and don't worry about swap or apps2sd partitions until after you root and verify that the rom is working with no problems, this will limit the number of variables in case you have troubles.

Thanks for the input.
So do you install hard spl according to that guide or do you skip that and just install the cm rom?
I love the auto apps2sd of cm roms. My phone is currently back on stock cupcake and I miss having all my apps on my 500mb ext 3 partition!

yea you need HardSPL. and use the recovery linked in the guide. Install cyan's recovery later.

This to me is the easiest step by step visual rooting process have done 3 G1 with full success. The newest G1 I had would not let me do the 1 click rooting method.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOo2V9qCauc&feature=related

maybeoneday said:
This to me is the easiest step by step visual rooting process have done 3 G1 with full success. The newest G1 I had would not let me do the 1 click rooting method.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOo2V9qCauc&feature=related
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Yeah I figured the new handset would most likely be patched. What was the result when you tried the 1-click. Would the new phone just not let you install the 1-click apk?

One thing I might add is you can't brick your phone by flashing Hardspl. It's the "danger" spl that has the potential of bricking your phone. Just follow the traditional guide that fingerlickin provided and your good to go.

Thanks for the help!

Anytime.......

Nope sure wouldn't just kept telling me install aborted. I don't no why. It could be some kind of patch. But I went to old faithfull step by step you tube install. Its really a nice video. You can pause the video and root your phone right along with guy doing the video. he also gives you links on the side bar to all files needed in the rooting process.

oh I'm sorry, I actually have one more question.
After flashing the HardSPl, would there ever be a reason to revert back to the original g1 spl? For instance if I had to send a phone back to t-mo, would they know that I am using the hardspl if all I did was reload the dreaimg.rbh rc-29 downgrade, or does that also reflash the spl back to the original?

Yes you would want to unroot phone before sending it to Tmobile, they do not warrenty a rooted phone
Unrooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491350

dcorrea said:
oh I'm sorry, I actually have one more question.
After flashing the HardSPl, would there ever be a reason to revert back to the original g1 spl? For instance if I had to send a phone back to t-mo, would they know that I am using the hardspl if all I did was reload the dreaimg.rbh rc-29 downgrade, or does that also reflash the spl back to the original?
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You shouldn't ever have to go back. T-mo would prolly never check it. Many people have sent there phones in with root access and different things installed. But if you do get paranoid and ever have to do it, just flash RC29 and it will put everything back to stock.

maybeoneday said:
Yes you would want to unroot phone before sending it to Tmobile, they do not warrenty a rooted phone
Unrooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491350
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I turned my phone in with root access and custom splash screen and they didn't say anything. You don't want to make it known that you have done anything to it, but they won't check. When they are sent in they just hook it up with jtag and reflash everything.

supremeteam256 said:
You shouldn't ever have to go back. T-mo would prolly never check it. Many people have sent there phones in with root access and different things installed. But if you do get paranoid and ever have to do it, just flash RC29 and it will put everything back to stock.
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Ok thanks that is what I figured. I actually just unrooted my phone yesterday from cyanogens rom, but I never flashed the SPL (did the 1-click thing originally), but now that I am going to do the original method I wanted to be sure.
I can't wait for my replacement phone to get here next week, because using the stock cupcake rom sux!
Anyway, thanks to everyone who gave their input and helped me learn even more about the process! You all rock!

supremeteam256 said:
I turned my phone in with root access and custom splash screen and they didn't say anything. You don't want to make it known that you have done anything to it, but they won't check. When they are sent in they just hook it up with jtag and reflash everything.
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Really, thats music to my ears. I have often thought it would be a pain if something broke on the phone and I had to try to unroot it before I sent it in. uhhhh like a bricked phone

I work in an electronics repair company and I agree with supremeteam256 about sending your phone in rooted. Our techs don't check for tampering, they just plug it in and use the programs my department writes to test and reflash the devices. Of course our devices are much more complicated but the same NON-Communication between customer service and technicians still exist.
I think the biggest reason for this is because the techs just aren't interested in explaining the technical details to a customer service rep because all they ever get is "huh? wtf is a bootloader?"

Disclaimer:
I'm not claiming that HTC or TMobile will not check or notice that you have rooted your phone. Just illustrating that the repair techs don't want to talk to customer service anymore than you do and would rather just fix the phone and move on to the next one.

Fingerlickin said:
I work in an electronics repair company and I agree with supremeteam256 about sending your phone in rooted. Our techs don't check for tampering, they just plug it in and use the programs my department writes to test and reflash the devices. Of course our devices are much more complicated but the same NON-Communication between customer service and technicians still exist.
I think the biggest reason for this is because the techs just aren't interested in explaining the technical details to a customer service rep because all they ever get is "huh? wtf is a bootloader?"
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Nice breakdown.

danger spl D=

i had to reroot my phone because somehow i lost the recovery image and it wouldnt let me flash anything
so i went re did everything
and i put the danger spl on here and now its stuck at the Tmobile G1 screen
am i screwed or is there something that i can do

Did you flash the radio first?

no
i didnt i couldnt remember which one was first

Remember when you flash the new spl you HAVE TO flash the rom again after it. Did you do that?

it doesnt even let me get to the recovery image to do that i had just flashed to jf 1.51 btw

roguestatuskat said:
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i didnt i couldnt remember which one was first
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if you can't boot into recovery (home and power) or bootloader (camera and power) then your phone is bricked. you can either call your provider or htc and say something about an update, and see if you can get a replacement phone.

can i just go to the tmo store tomarrow? and then they can just give me a new one?

roguestatuskat said:
can i just go to the tmo store tomarrow? and then they can just give me a new one?
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you could try it, sometimes it is better over the phone, but you can try in store.
make sure you sound as dumb as possible, like you don't know anything about xda, rooting, flashing, brick, or anything technical. just say something about an update, then afterward it started back up, that it wouldn't boot.

im mexican so i can be all like
i was like eschool nd then the thing was like update nd i turn off pero no turn back on
phone or Tmo store which one is faster?

roguestatuskat said:
im mexican so i can be all like
i was like eschool nd then the thing was like update nd i turn off pero no turn back on
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haha, i imagine that one would work

hopefully very well

The same exact thing happened to me a few monthes back, I called them and after some bs story they sent out a replacement phone. Then once you get the replacement, you just put your original phone back in the box and ship it back to them.

I have been able to replace a g1 in the store. Just don't take no for an answer. And if you have to take a hostage.

supremeteam256 said:
I have been able to replace a g1 in the store. Just don't take no for an answer. And if you have to take a hostage.
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hahahahaha
but seriously though, you should try a little harder before resorting to re-rooting. You know that it may not always be possible to fall back to RC29 if HTC decides to change the keys, right? You should learn how to troubleshoot so you wont have to resort to that

damnit google, just give us root and this wont happen

roguestatuskat said:
damnit google, just give us root and this wont happen
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lmfao they have. it costs $424 + shipping
google android developer phone

sorry google i apologize despite your cockliness towards cyanogen
what i meant to say is damnit Tmobile give us all dev phones

Rooted phones would do more harm than good to the average user...
As for your situation, does holding the Camera or Home key not boot you into SPL or recovery, respectively?
It's likely than when you went back to RC29 to reroot, your radio is reverted back along with it, and then you flashed the dangerSPL to brick your phone.

cigar3tte said:
Rooted phones would do more harm than good to the average user...
As for your situation, does holding the Camera or Home key not boot you into SPL or recovery, respectively?
It's likely than when you went back to RC29 to reroot, your radio is reverted back along with it, and then you flashed the dangerSPL to brick your phone.
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flashing the DangerSPL then the RC29 image should have any detrimental affect on the phone. People has successfully downgraded directly to RC29 with success.
I've read many posts to that extent, but I cannot be 100% as I haven't done it myself

OMG I just flashed my SPL Before my radio >.<!!!!

I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????

what radio did you have? if it was the latest radio to begin with, you are all good. if not, you probably screwed the pooch

Old radio. I was in the process of rooting and thought to myself, "Oh better update the SPL" damn I'm an IDIOT!!! I knew better!!!! >.<

Why is it that every other day someone starts a new thread on bricking their phone?!?! SEARCH! Either way you have a brand new paperweight...I suggest to all that brick their phones...DON'T MONKEY WITH IT! Get a new phone and stick with stock. Cheers

Hi,
Did you already root your phone and flash a modified recovery?
Then copy your firmware to a sdcard as update.zip and you should be able to flash from recovery.
matthenry87 said:
Old radio. I was in the process of rooting and thought to myself, "Oh better update the SPL" damn I'm an IDIOT!!! I knew better!!!! >.<
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matthenry87 said:
I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????
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You should return that phone anyway, the Nexus or some new andro with snap dragon will be released or maybe phone with sense?
Seems you lack common-sense for doing what you did. When you think about it that spl is only for spec roms, so things like cyan dont need it.

bestwebs said:
Hi,
Did you already root your phone and flash a modified recovery?
Then copy your firmware to a sdcard as update.zip and you should be able to flash from recovery.
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Dude, if you flash the danger SPL before the radio you can't get past the G1 screen, ie can't get into recovery, fast boot, anything at all! Hence it being the most notorious way to brick's one's G1.

matthenry87 said:
I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????
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i tells you what you can do. this worked for me. i did the same **** on my replacement g1. i said "when i got the replacement it was running 1.1. i was prompted to update, and i did so. when the phone rebooted it never went past the g1 screen. u have to make big stink about this
i did that and they shipped me one next day air. being that that was the third replacement they sent me within 1 week, and i never had to make an embarrassing thread about bricking my phone

Thanks b0ricuaguerrero that makes me feel a lot better about the phone call I'm bout to make to T-Mobile.
Why does every thread have big-headed flame-whores who just need to feel superior to others?? We all make stupid mistakes and I knew better than to flash the SPL before the radio. I had a stoner moment I guess you could call it. I haven't used a stock rom since I bought the phone when it came out and I don't plan on using one in the future.
I was also thinking.. maybe Armon could add something to the confirmation process of the flash and if the file is *spl*.zip it would remind them they absolutely must flash their radio first. I know some of you might proceed to flame me more, but that probably would have been enough to remind me. Then maybe these brick threads would pop up every week instead of every day XD
I did however post my thread in the correct section though! =P

matthenry87 said:
Why does every thread have big-headed flame-whores who just need to feel superior to others?? We all make stupid mistakes and I knew better than to flash the SPL before the radio. I had a stoner moment I guess you could call it. I haven't used a stock rom since I bought the phone when it came out and I don't plan on using one in the future.
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I agree. I very nearly bricked my phone when first I flashed the new spl. Back then, I was using the old CM recovery (where you had to rename to update.zip), and flashed the update, then renamed the spl, and was about to flash it, but then something told me to double-check... and I realized that the first update I flashed was not the latest radio, but was, in fact, a different update.zip. I was one click away from brick. The thing is, you don't have to be an idiot to brick when you play on XDA.
matthenry87 said:
I was also thinking.. maybe Armon could add something to the confirmation process of the flash and if the file is *spl*.zip it would remind them they absolutely must flash their radio first. I know some of you might proceed to flame me more, but that probably would have been enough to remind me. Then maybe these brick threads would pop up every week instead of every day XD
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You SHOULD suggest that idea to Amon-RA about the reminder for anything with spl in it. Sounds stupid, and sure, idiots shouldn't root their phones, but they do. It would certainly help keep the forums cleaner.
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I did however post my thread in the correct section though! =P
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Thank you, times a million, for not posting in Development!

HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
pjcforpres said:
Dude, if you flash the danger SPL before the radio you can't get past the G1 screen, ie can't get into recovery, fast boot, anything at all! Hence it being the most notorious way to brick's one's G1.
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bestwebs said:
HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
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He flashed the spl BEFORE the radio, that always causes a brick, no questions asked. If you flash the spl wrong you cannot get into the OS, Recovery, or Bootloader- essentially you have a very nice paperweight that has a very nice screen

bestwebs said:
HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
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And what exactly does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
OP, really am sorry to hear you made a mistake you knew better than. Hopefully you can get T-Mo to replace it for you using the "failed update" method.

Radios, you say?

Hey all,
So after doing a bit of research I see that a way to potentially improve battery life (CM7, as Android System, currently using ~60% battery) would be to try new radios. Now from my understanding using certain radios are dependent on what provider you have? is this true? This thread shows a list of radios, but as a radio newbie all these numbers don't mean anything to me.
My questions is, is flashing a new radio a good idea? I currently have 20.2805.30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M and have a Virgin Mobile Canada Incredible S that I have unlocked an am using on TrueMove mobile over in Bangkok, Thailand. If I should be flashing a new radio does anyone have suggestions as to which one I should be using?

I have the same question.

same issue - I am very scared to flash a new radio but I think I need to (delayed texts, people saying my phone won't ring when it has full battery and service). I am in Singapore. The main thing holding me back is using an ADB which I don't understand how to do.

key2gb said:
same issue - I am very scared to flash a new radio but I think I need to (delayed texts, people saying my phone won't ring when it has full battery and service). I am in Singapore. The main thing holding me back is using an ADB which I don't understand how to do.
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you don't need to. you can put it on the root of your sd card named PG32IMG.zip and reboot into the bootloader and it will find it and say click volume up to start flashing.
I recommended the very latest radio, 09.03.27

scoobysnacks said:
you don't need to. you can put it on the root of your sd card named PG32IMG.zip and reboot into the bootloader and it will find it and say click volume up to start flashing.
I recommended the very latest radio, 09.03.27
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I recommend that one too. The first post in the radio thread hasn't been updated to include that one yet, but it's in this post on page 11 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18208077&postcount=101
I'm not sure that radios have any effect on battery life though.

Raithmir said:
I recommend that one too. The first post in the radio thread hasn't been updated to include that one yet, but it's in this post on page 11 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18208077&postcount=101
I'm not sure that radios have any effect on battery life though.
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I'm an electronics engineer and I can assure you that they definitely do...

Raithmir said:
I'm not sure that radios have any effect on battery life though.
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Speaking from my experience with a clone Touch Diamond, I can certainly say that the radio has a bearing on battery life. A poor radio (as supplied in my clone) caused the phone to be forever 'searching' for a signal which caused excessive battery drain. Updating to a better radio which gave superior reception drastically increased battery life (as well as meaning I could use the phone more often).

scoobysnacks said:
I'm an electronics engineer and I can assure you that they definitely do...
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If you say so. Can't say I've noticed any difference and I've used most of them.

Raithmir said:
If you say so. Can't say I've noticed any difference and I've used most of them.
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well it depends on a great deal of factors as well..
area being a key one.

Just to confirm...you dont need to be radio S-OFF to flash a new radio!?

VaderXI said:
Just to confirm...you dont need to be radio S-OFF to flash a new radio!?
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radio s off?
if you have s off you can flash a radio.
I used revolutionary

scoobysnacks said:
radio s off?
if you have s off you can flash a radio.
I used revolutionary
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There is loads of stuff in other threads about having to be radio S-OFF, or permanant S-OFF with a gold card rather than temp/removable S-OFF as with revolutionary, in order to flash a new radio, but its all pretty conflicting. Some say that revolutionary is more than adequate while others you have to have a handset of a certain age in order to do it i.e it wont work on the newer ones! This is why I havnt bothered flashing a new radio yet, but if you say you have done it then I may try and give it a go...wait till the new Nik - Trinity ROM is uploaded first!

I used revolutionary, so should I not be flashing a new radio?
It makes me feel safer that scooby used revolutionary, but also since I'm in Singapore I'm not sure if i'll be affected differently. I really think I need to flash a new radio and if it's just as easy as moving the file to the SD card and rebooting into the bootloader then it doesn't seem to dangerous
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key2gb said:
I used revolutionary, so should I not be flashing a new radio?
It makes me feel safer that scooby used revolutionary, but also since I'm in Singapore I'm not sure if i'll be affected differently. I really think I need to flash a new radio and if it's just as easy as moving the file to the SD card and rebooting into the bootloader then it doesn't seem to dangerous
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It works fine..
Just make SURE you don't do it if you don't have much battery left, leave the back cover on so the battery can't fall out, and let it flash completely until it says finished.
Do not remove the battery under any circumstance.

Raithmir said:
I recommend that one too. The first post in the radio thread hasn't been updated to include that one yet, but it's in this post on page 11 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18208077&postcount=101
I'm not sure that radios have any effect on battery life though.
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Thanks so much for this link! I will attempt the flash. What is this RIL thing people speak of and what do I do with such things? I know that certain RIL files should match the radio but where does it go? do I just flashing it before/after the radio?
Thanks in advance!

tcardozo said:
Thanks so much for this link! I will attempt the flash. What is this RIL thing people speak of and what do I do with such things? I know that certain RIL files should match the radio but where does it go? do I just flashing it before/after the radio?
Thanks in advance!
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Don't bother with the ril, in this case it isn't actually necessary.

Would you see a bigger difference on battery from flashing a new radio or a new kernel such as tiamat?

incrediblealex said:
Would you see a bigger difference on battery from flashing a new radio or a new kernel such as tiamat?
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That's really an unanswerable question since it depends on so many things...

scoobysnacks said:
It works fine..
Just make SURE you don't do it if you don't have much battery left, leave the back cover on so the battery can't fall out, and let it flash completely until it says finished.
Do not remove the battery under any circumstance.
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scoobysnacks said:
radio s off?
if you have s off you can flash a radio.
I used revolutionary
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Tried to flash the radio, but installation aborted on me! Got alpharev S-OFF and using 4EXTRecovery. Tried it again and same thing....was I right in that only only older handsets will work with temp alpharev S-OFF rather than perm gold card S-OFF? Hopefully Nik - Trinity's new ROM will have this radio anyways.

I just installed this radio on my handset. Not sure what classes as an old or new handset but mine was delivered 5 days ago. It is Revolutionary S-Off with CWM Recovery.
Can't say I've noticed any change to reception though.