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[Q] best rom for a noob

What's the recommendation for a solid, basic rom I can install on my friend's Captivate? He is most definitely not a power user. He just wants his phone to operate faster and be able to enable wifi tethering. He is currently running on android 2.1, so I figure going up to 2.2 at least will help and I have already rooted it. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks

Probably the most stock-like ROM you could flash would be Cognition. Great ROM, has all the features you could want.
Alternately, you could run Serendipity if you want the Gingerbread look.. Or a CM7 build if you want actual Gingerbread (though buggier than the other ROMs)

Firstly, right here on the front page is a Q&A section of this forum. That's where a question like this should go.
Regarding the answer -- IMHO its so subjective that it'd be hard to recommend anything other than a stable rom that has mass appeal, usually noted by the amount of replies to a roms thread. In short, cognition would be a good starting point. I used that for a while and had very few problems. I upgraded to cyanogen a few days ago and there are certainly some bits (namely network related) but I consider myself a power user so the added features more than makes it worth it.

Well, first off, I would move this to the Q&A thread.
But I would recommend Precision or Serendipity to flash. Use the theme when flashing Precision if you want something all Black/White. If you'd rather have that stock feel, I'd go with Cognition. It's really all just trying out different ROMs and seeing what you like. All three of those are fast and will enable tethering, but yesterday, AT&T announced they will start charging rooted users tethering fees if they catch you doing it. Theoretically, they won't be able to detect the tethering if you stay under 2GB of data, though.
Hope that helped!

It depends on personal preference, wrong section to post in. Just saying and not trying to be rude

dgrooman said:
What's the recommendation for a solid, basic rom I can install on my friend's Captivate? He is most definitely not a power user. He just wants his phone to operate faster and be able to enable wifi tethering. He is currently running on android 2.1, so I figure going up to 2.2 at least will help and I have already rooted it. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Although the Romitchen.org is closed for some time, their captivate section has the most compatible stuff. I have used three different roms from there and all give me full functionality - GPS (for me this works real great with Navigon), Bluetooth, Wifi, Email, Text etc. without any hassle whatsoever.
I currently have a ROm that i built from there that works great....Can post it up if you want it?
Cheers !
Its 2.2.1

Thanks for the replies and my apologies for posting in the wrong forum. Looks like cognition will be the best one to start him out on. Thanks again

dgrooman said:
What's the recommendation for a solid, basic rom I can install on my friend's Captivate? He is most definitely not a power user. He just wants his phone to operate faster and be able to enable wifi tethering. He is currently running on android 2.1, so I figure going up to 2.2 at least will help and I have already rooted it. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks
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I'd recommend either Phoenix or FireFly. Both are rock solid, for the beginners FireFly might be better. They are both very good ROMS, and have great suport

kangi26 said:
I'd recommend either Phoenix or FireFly. Both are rock solid, for the beginners FireFly might be better. They are both very good ROMS, and have great suport
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I totally agree with Phoenix or FireFly. Totally stable, fast, and the UI's are great. I also think it's absolutely retarded to repeat the issue with this being in the wrong thread. I swear... some of you have a real issue with power tripping. I'm pretty sure after he read the first post about it he understood pretty well. this is XDA!!! Good job on just throwing out an answer Kangi26! That's what we're all here for. HELP!!!

Designgears makes good roms for those starting off, and good roms, just in general. Back in August when I got my cappy my first rom was I believe his first rom release, [srv] 1.0 or something. It was kinda my gateway drug. But his roms are good for beginners because the process for flashing is very simple, and most of all they're pretty stable. So for people unwilling to do deal with bugs, or are prone to complaining about things they don't want to really understand as yet, designgears offers a variety of solutions.
PS....
just as everyone else has mentioned, make sure to post in the correct section to avoid cluttering the forums.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using Tapatalk

Does Firefly unlock/enable tethering or will I still need an app like Wireless Tether? (I did read the first few pages of the official firefly thread but did not see the answer there...)

dgrooman said:
Does Firefly unlock/enable tethering or will I still need an app like Wireless Tether? (I did read the first few pages of the official firefly thread but did not see the answer there...)
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I'm almost 100%, it does. I'm running Phoenix (kind of the big brother to Fire Fly, and it is supported)
Sent from a autonomous device

Wahoo a best rom thread, Have not seen one of these in awhile.
Ok Well there is no "Best Rom" Just a "Best for you rom". I have my favs like everyone else but your best bet is to try them out as you see one that catches your eye. No one can tell you what rom you would deem best it.

[Q] n00b Questions about HoneyStreak

OK, I'm a n00b to this forum, so I can't post in the development forum yet. So I guess I'll ask here.
I have some questions about HoneyStreak.
Is everyone's screen in HoneyStreak kinda off? (See image below)
Is there a way to make the font larger?
How come everything is so tiny? (fonts and icons and everything)
What launcher should I be using with HoneyStreak?
Will a different launcher make a difference with the icon/font size?
Is the answer to all of my questions just that its a Beta release of Honeycomb, and that they are working on all of that? (or is it supposed to be like that? or did I mess up my install?)

1. Yes.
2. Yes, but you lose the HoneyComb Google Apps if you do that (you can bump the screen density up).
3. See #2.
4. Stock is probably best.
5. Not to my knowledge, but I could be wrong.
6. Yes.
Most of this has been covered in the HoneyStreak thread. I know it's a bit to read through, so I'm not annoyed; just saying you could probably find the answer to these questions and more on there if you're willing to put some time in.
Honeycomb isn't ready for primetime on the Streak 7, yet. This is more of an early beta, but it shows a lot of promise. Once AOSP drops, it ought to be significantly better (though that may not be until Ice Cream Sandwich). Keep watching.

Thanks Zandar, once again.
It is definitely a very promising beta. I can't wait until it's ready for prime time. Until then, I think I'll go back to the stock ROM, but rooted. I don't see too much advantage to StreakDroid, so I'll just wait for HoneyStreak.

That's exactly what I did. StreakDroid doesn't have functioning bluetooth, so that was a no-go for me. Try Gingerbreak for rooting stock 2.2.2; easiest root I've ever done.

I got excited when I saw a post about GingerStreak, but that's for the Streak 5. It kinda stinks having Gingerbread on my old phone and Froyo on my new tablet. LOL
I guess no one is interested in working on a Gingerbread ROM while Honeycomb is in beta. I don't blame them.
GingerBreak was an easy root. The hardest part was getting the .apk file onto the Streak and running it - which wasn't hard at all.
Another off-the-wall question for you:
How come none of the ROMs for the Streak 7 are Cyanogenmod based? I'm curious because I've gotten used to a lot of the Cyanogenmod features on my phone and I miss them on the Streak.

Tom2112 said:
I got excited when I saw a post about GingerStreak, but that's for the Streak 5. It kinda stinks having Gingerbread on my old phone and Froyo on my new tablet. LOL
I guess no one is interested in working on a Gingerbread ROM while Honeycomb is in beta. I don't blame them.
GingerBreak was an easy root. The hardest part was getting the .apk file onto the Streak and running it - which wasn't hard at all.
Another off-the-wall question for you:
How come none of the ROMs for the Streak 7 are Cyanogenmod based? I'm curious because I've gotten used to a lot of the Cyanogenmod features on my phone and I miss them on the Streak.
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There aren't the devs for that, right now. There's a thread over on the Cyanogenmod forums asking for develops and even offering money for a port; no response, yet. I loved CM on my old Droid, but this device simply didn't have the dev support that the OG Droid had (not yet, anyway).

Dont count on no cm devs
Sent from my Dell Streak using Tapatalk

Hey Steve! Thanks for all that you do for our Streaks!! You are the man.
I do hope that recent price drops for the Streak 7 bring on some more interest. The more popular the device the more people will want to work on it.

DJ_Steve said:
Dont count on no cm devs
Sent from my Dell Streak using Tapatalk
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First off, I love what you've done for the Streak 7. You're really the only one pushing the device, and I know you're also busy with the Streak 5 (and, you know, have a life and stuff, too). I'm very grateful to have you developing.
That said, you're only one man (though a very talented one). I'm pretty excited to hear that some other devs might join the team. This device has so much potential, and it would be great to see people working to unlock it.
Any other info you can share, or is it all top secret, hush-hush right now?

another noob with question
i am ordering a streak 7 from t-mobile and will have it next week. in the mean time reading this forum and ready to get on honeystreak.
Do i just follow step by step direction in DJSteve honeystreak thread? is there anything i have to do before that, like root, fastboot,....?
thanks in advance,

You'll need to root your device in order to install honeystreak.
I wouldn't mess with the SuperOneClick method of rooting. GingerBreak is the easiest method. Check the instructions in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105165

Since I don't have enough posts I wasn't allowed to post in the development Honeystreak thread (10 posts required) so I figure I'll post here.
I just installed Honeystreak RC2 and so far it's GREAT! Thanks to DJ_Steve and others who made it possible!
My question though is regarding Facebook. I'm unable to find the FB app in the Android or Amazon marketplaces. Is this an issue for anyone else?
I searched for the .apk, but could only find version 1.4, and I know it has been recently updated. Anyone have the most recent apk?
Thanks for any input!
Jeff

rattlehead02 said:
Since I don't have enough posts I wasn't allowed to post in the development Honeystreak thread (10 posts required) so I figure I'll post here.
I just installed Honeystreak RC2 and so far it's GREAT! Thanks to DJ_Steve and others who made it possible!
My question though is regarding Facebook. I'm unable to find the FB app in the Android or Amazon marketplaces. Is this an issue for anyone else?
I searched for the .apk, but could only find version 1.4, and I know it has been recently updated. Anyone have the most recent apk?
Thanks for any input!
Jeff
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Not to provide a non-answer, but the Android FB app sucks. I'd just use the mobile site.

No arguments there. But I do like having the FB widget on my home screen.
Also I figure I'd do my part to help point out any bugs or what-not with the RC build.

Facebook mobile shows up in rc3 and you dont need to be rooted to flash honeystreak.
Sent from my Atrix via tapatalk

If you'd just read the instructions then you wouldn't have asked your question I guess. LOL.

DJ_Steve said:
Facebook mobile shows up in rc3 and you dont need to be rooted to flash honeystreak.
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Facebook mobile and the official Facebook for Android app are two completely different beasts. Facebook for Android does not show up in the RC3 marketplace. I had to push it from my phone to my HoneyStreak 7. Doing that though doesn't allow it to integrate with your Gallery and therefore can't share photos and videos on Facebook via RC3 unless you use the mobile site, which has intermittent issues. I'm pretty sure I could in RC2 as I had Facebook on there working properly. That's an Issue for me since technically it's my wife's streak 7 and she uses it primarily for facebook and surfing the web... oh yeah, and Angry Birds, gotta have Angry Birds.
Bear

im wondering if the facebook app doesn exist on honeycomb. i havent got a native hc device to try it

[Q] Currently which is best or stable

Hi I currently just bought a Samsung Tab from Bell and looking to mod it to the best most stable version which closely supports these functions
- Phone use of course (voice) without routing for warranty purposes
- Camera video conferencing (I use oovoo or is there a better app please suggest)
I read some of the developments and see that modem was an issue etc. I want the most stable so that most services work.
Please suggest if there is something better than Gingerbread. So far I seen the Overcome ROM is popular now.
Please link tutorial page as I do not want to Brick it. Thanks guys!

I just read the Bell modem list and it says no voice.
But I am hearing people being able to use 3G services with Bell bought tabs.
Does this mean all Bell Tabs are not able to get voice?

I just found out that if I want to use the SGT on the Bell network I can still flash other modem firmwares and be successful.
Anyone know which is the best?

it's a matter of preference. some mods keep only the most basic functions while others are for OC/UV geeks.. read around, especially in the development section. If you plan to mod your tab anyway, the best advice I can give you is to READ A LOT! And when you're done reading, READ AGAIN!

Sef_P1000 said:
it's a matter of preference. some mods keep only the most basic functions while others are for OC/UV geeks.. read around, especially in the development section. If you plan to mod your tab anyway, the best advice I can give you is to READ A LOT! And when you're done reading, READ AGAIN!
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It's funny you said that because thats all I been doing.
I just need a pick me up jump start on what I should start with.
IM THNKING
First of all things ROute it first...
-then flash the Gingerbread with Overcome
-then flash the modem with the one that works for all GSM except TMobile.
Will this achieve
-voice calls with the phone APP?
-Bell HSPA 3G data?
-Video font facing camera for chat?
All the other ROMS I will read on for tweakability but for now I am looking to just achieve the above. Did I miss anything in between?
Help PinoyDinAko!

Another lazy f*ck, read, hunt for your food, don't wait for dad to bring everything to the table.
i would recomend your for maximum stability use the stock rom, and be happy, you'll find out soon or later then no rom is worth install it, there will always be issues to turn your hair white.

atomiq said:
Another lazy f*ck, read, hunt for your food, don't wait for dad to bring everything to the table.
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I guess u wont be thanking this guy
As long as you dont have protected boot loaders and dont flash roms that do - should be alrite to try the different roms + then flash different kernels over them if u want.
Also first make a roto backup of your stock setup.
cheers

relax guys take deep breath , and chill . to the OP , the best to start with and to stick with is overcome gingerbread and specially with their new kernel is freaking awesome for the battery life

k0sh said:
relax guys take deep breath , and chill . to the OP , the best to start with and to stick with is overcome gingerbread and specially with their new kernel is freaking awesome for the battery life
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I agree on the chilling part.
But, I disagree on the overcome gold release. Compared to the RC1 release with the stock kernel, I would have to say that the Gold release with the new overcome kernel is draining more battery. Lots of people have reported bugs and lags while on the latest Overcome release, with the new custom kernel, compared to the RC1 release.
So, for now, I would suggest that you try the Overcome RC1 ROM without the custom kernel. I'm certain that these problems will be fixed in the future releases of Overcome. But for now the RC1 release is more stable in general than the latest, IMHO.

Kraistus said:
I agree on the chilling part.
But, I disagree on the overcome gold release. Compared to the RC1 release with the stock kernel, I would have to say that the Gold release with the new overcome kernel is draining more battery. Lots of people have reported bugs and lags while on the latest Overcome release, with the new custom kernel, compared to the RC1 release.
So, for now, I would suggest that you try the Overcome RC1 ROM without the custom kernel. I'm certain that these problems will be fixed in the future releases of Overcome. But for now the RC1 release is more stable in general than the latest, IMHO.
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i got no idea about the battery drain but believe it or no , the battery is rocks .. i never been supporter for overcome batttery life , and you can ask them about that , but with start from overcome beta1 to gold , the battery are going awesome , anyways , believe this 1 , i'm not with stock 2.2 without root .. problems caused me back to froyo temporary , after testing the Honeycomb .. tomorrow will start over and i'll stick with CM7
cheers

nt1 said:
It's funny you said that because thats all I been doing.
I just need a pick me up jump start on what I should start with.
IM THNKING
First of all things ROute it first...
-then flash the Gingerbread with Overcome
-then flash the modem with the one that works for all GSM except TMobile.
Will this achieve
-voice calls with the phone APP?
-Bell HSPA 3G data?
-Video font facing camera for chat?
All the other ROMS I will read on for tweakability but for now I am looking to just achieve the above. Did I miss anything in between?
Help PinoyDinAko!
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I can make some suggestions as i'm using a bell galaxy tab.
Flashing any Gsm rom will give you the voice capability. Just make sure you flash a modem as well. I am using JPZ and have no problem with making voice calls.
I definitely would suggest using overcome's rom as that is what i am using. Be sure to follow the instructions to the letter!!!!
You can get the bell hspa 3g data easily on any rom. if you sub to a bell plan, i would suggest the tablet flex plan where you can share your data with your smartphone (presuming you have one).
I just installed the overcome gold and have tried using gtalk with video. It lags for me but it does work. I dont know with the other video talk programs like oovoo.
I was on overcome 1.47 and loved that rom. Fast, stable and easy to use.
This rom is a little laggy and i was surprised that i got 28 hours on the battery after flashing. Might be a little different today but it all depends on the usage too.
Good luck and hope you enjoy the tab. I sure do. Flashing just increases my enjoyment of the tab.
Sent from my GT-P1000 with Overcome 2.0 Gold

ordio said:
I can make some suggestions as i'm using a bell galaxy tab.
Flashing any Gsm rom will give you the voice capability. Just make sure you flash a modem as well. I am using JPZ and have no problem with making voice calls.
I definitely would suggest using overcome's rom as that is what i am using. Be sure to follow the instructions to the letter!!!!
You can get the bell hspa 3g data easily on any rom. if you sub to a bell plan, i would suggest the tablet flex plan where you can share your data with your smartphone (presuming you have one).
I just installed the overcome gold and have tried using gtalk with video. It lags for me but it does work. I dont know with the other video talk programs like oovoo.
I was on overcome 1.47 and loved that rom. Fast, stable and easy to use.
This rom is a little laggy and i was surprised that i got 28 hours on the battery after flashing. Might be a little different today but it all depends on the usage too.
Good luck and hope you enjoy the tab. I sure do. Flashing just increases my enjoyment of the tab.
Sent from my GT-P1000 with Overcome 2.0 Gold
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Thanks to you ...
LOL I work for Bell support so I get free data and calls. This will be so cool for me.
BTW do I route it first or just go straight in to flashing then flash modem?

nt1 said:
Thanks to you ...
LOL I work for Bell technical support so I get free data and calls. This will be so cool for me.
BTW do I route it first or just go straight in to flashing then flash modem?
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I wonder if I've talked to you.lol.
When you flash you can flash the modem at the same time.
Have you read the walk thru yet? Give it a read before doing anything else. Evening should be self explanatory.
Good luck.
Sent from my GT-I9000M using Darky's Rom 10.1 on Gingerbread 2.3.3 with Tapatalk

I dont get much tab calls just iPAD. I wonder why because this device rocks. Its not popular but should be.
I will try and see how it is. Your sig shows what you are using should I try that one or the one suggested not the Gold One because you said it lags.

nt1 said:
I dont get much tab calls just iPAD. I wonder why because this device rocks. Its not popular but should be.
I will try and see how it is. Your sig shows what you are using should I try that one or the one suggested not the Gold One because you said it lags.
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For some reason it lags at times but not always. but i still love using it as is because of the extra features im getting with it.
Sent from my GT-P1000 with Overcome 2.0 Gold

[Q] New DS7 in the mail

Hey all, I'm a new DS7 owner (well, UPS is right now but I will be). My interest was grabbed when I heard the news about the official Honeycomb being released for the DS7. After some add'l reading around about it (including discovering Honeystreak), I decided to trade my Nook Color in for a DS7.
I'm by no means new to Android hacking but I am totally new to the DS7. So I was wondering if a couple peeps would mind helping me play catch-up so I know what all is going on with it. For example:
What's the recovery situation? I see a stickied CWM thread but I also see comments such as "I doubt we'll be seeing cmw any time soon since partitions keep changing and we all know how badly cmw has screwed.us in the past...". If not CWM, then whatcha got?
Are there generally-accepted bugs with the device that I should be aware of before I waste time banging my head against the wall? For example, all AOSP ROMs for the Thunderbolt have a GPS and Network Location bug, and MMS only works if Wifi is disconnected.
What firmware-flashing tool is used? (equivalent to Odin, HBoot, RSDLite, etc.)
What other things are there that I should know about that are specific to the DS7?
If not here on XDA, where is DJ Steve posting new HoneyStreak updates?
I appreciate your help and a bit of patience while I ask the dumb questions.

Hey Jax, good to see a fellow Thunderbolt owner over here, well....the rom game is slow around these parts. Most owners including myself are waiting for the official 3.2 ota which may be days or weeks away for the wifi model. DJsteve is the streak dev but has CHOSEN to take his work elsewhere due to GPL issues.
The known bugs or issues for the most part have been well documented, battery life and screen, although I wouldn't call the later a "bug". Battery life is supposed to be addressed in the ota as well. In my opinion this is going to be a sweet little tab once 3.2 arrives and will hopefully attract some devs.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

Hi Jax,
Welcome to the Streak7 world. I too am a new DS7 user (wifi only). Only just getting mine back on the 2nd of Sept. I used the stock rom and thought it was a decent running system. In fact, I kinda disagreed with most who said it was a bit sluggish, as mine seemed to run quite well. Got my DS7 on Friday afternoon,by late Saturday night I had it rooted to Honeycomb.Why live with last years model when you can have this years model. I worked under that for a few days to see how it ran. Then I went back to the stock Dell rom for comparison. Well... after going back to the stock rom I saw just what everyone was saying about it being sluggish. Now granted the stock rom ran fine & I was fine with it untill I rooted. Then I got spoiled. SO not only does the stock rom run a bit slower, it has a lot of bloat. (as one would expect). Going over to the root rom fixes these issues. Its a clean fast running system now. I have not found any troubles with the rom Im using or the stock rom. I think you'll be happy with the DS7 & even more so after rooting it.
I use DJ_Steve's HoneyStreak HD7 2.0 (3.2)R4 (Going to R5 today as he just posted the R5 yesterday) & I love it. You'l need to install R2 first,then update to R4 or R5.
DJ_Steve has moved over to another site & his work can be found here :
R2 : http://tabletroms.com/forums/honeyc...[r2]-honeystreak-hd7-2-0-release-2-3-2-a.html
R5 : http://tabletroms.com/forums/honeyc...m][r5]-honeystreak-hd7-2-0-release-3-2-a.html
Good luck with your new DS7. If I can help any more please feel free to drop me a line. And keep us posted on your goings on with it.

^^^I also think the stock rom isn't so bad, I do have adwex on top of it though. I'm yet to root mines. I'm shocked how much I'm liking my DS7.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

Before you go installing HC, can you check what stock rom you have installed first?
The version is in system -> about phone
You might have a newer version rom then what's available. Dell has been releasing most of their updates as preinstalled only recently.

TheManii said:
Before you go installing HC, can you check what stock rom you have installed first?
The version is in system -> about phone
You might have a newer version rom then what's available. Dell has been releasing most of their updates as preinstalled only recently.
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I bought mine used on Ebay. I had honeycomb on it within 3 hours of playing with my Streak.

[Q] question about rooting my nexus one

OK.guys I have a stock n1 running 2.3.6 but I am tired of the wifi issue my question is if I root does this fix the issue and also what are the benefits of rooting and which is the best method and rom
Thanks in advance

Can't answer for certainty because we don't know if your problem is software or hardware related.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

my wifi keep on droping off when i google it i see its a problem with the n1
hope this helps

I haven't run stock since Froyo came out, but I haven't had any issues with my wifi, so if it is an issue with software, it doesn't seem like it exists in CyanogenMod. But as baseballfanz mentioned, it is too difficult to determine whether your issue is hardware or software. If it is software, it should be fixed. The two most popular custom ROMs are CyanogenMod and MIUI. I know CyanogenMod covers a lot of the additional features on their website, I am not sure about MIUI, but both probably include better perfomance and battery life, along with a ton of extra features.

Never had any WiFi issues myself or heard of anyone else having any with the N1. I suppose you could TRY another rom but I'm not sure if that would work. If you do I would recommend a cyanogenmod simply because theres so many people using that if anyone else has had this issue its probably been reported and solved if it was a software problem. Always worth a hot and if nothing else theres more to do with a rooted phone anyway.
Good luck, hope you'll let us know how you get on.

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Never had any WiFi issues myself or heard of anyone else having any with the N1. I suppose you could TRY another rom but I'm not sure if that would work. If you do I would recommend a cyanogenmod simply because theres so many people using that if anyone else has had this issue its probably been reported and solved if it was a software problem. Always worth a hot and if nothing else theres more to do with a rooted phone anyway.
Good luck, hope you'll let us know how you get on.
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There are many people reporting Wi-Fi issues on the Nexus One on a stock ROM after the 2.3.6 update. Many threads in this forum, as well as google's support forum...

Root anyway
Too many benefits and too much fun not to--
Full image backups
Better app managemet
Faster Updates
Ability to run Sense roms
Overclocking
etc
etc

ok ok you guys twisted my arm lol i am going to install cm7.1 let you know how this runs

If you are not rooted yet back up phone with an app like MyBackUp Pro and copy sdcard to pc
Include System Wipe as part of wiping phone before flashing new rom
Best Recovery--latest non-beta Amon_Ra
Wiki has good root info--

not worried about apps all free app can download so not going to back up lol

Your Brave
It backs up more than apps--does System/Home Screens/Bookmarks/SMS/MMS/Playlists etc
Def do your sdcard
Good Luck

brave you say lol
its a new phone so i dont have anything i want to keep in it new as in new to me but a used phone

hey guy sorry took long to report i sucessfully rooted my n1 rubbing cm7 are there any good sense roms i could try i really like the sense interface thanks alot

Check in the Nexus One Android Development forum, or look at the Nexus One wiki, which lists more roms as well. I just went to the Development forum myself and did a search for "sense", there's multiple Sense roms in that forum.
Good luck.

I loaded a runnymedemod007 v007 ROM RUNNING GREAT SO FAR

Hey where Is my manners THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE ASSISTANCE !!!
Sent from my HTC Nexus One using XDA App