From Droid-LIfe the VP of Product at Motorola (recently moved over from Google) recently made some statements that they know we got screwed. Here is the excerpt.
Punit Soni has only been the VP of Product at Motorola for a few weeks and already has taken to Google+ to interact personally with current customers to try to fix some of the company’s past mistakes. One of the topics he is actively involved in includes the DROID Bionic and the fact that it still has not received its Ice Cream Sandwich update. As you all know, Motorola previously promised to the world that the update would be here in “early Q3,” however, we are now days away from the end of Q3 and the update is no where in sight.
Soni admits that Bionic owners have “gotten a raw deal” thus far and that a new plan is being formed, but also wants it to be clear that with the new Motorola team at the top, they are doing everything they can to eliminate situations like this from ever happening:
"We have a plan for Bionic. I am currently solidifying things to ensure we can publish it, commit and follow up. I think you guys have gotten a raw deal and we could do way better. But you are one of the top few things I worry about when I look at Upgrades."
The Google+ thread of his that we have linked below continues on for quite some time and is filled with Soni’s responses to all sorts of customers. One comment of his that stood out was the thought that his team now knows to “take your complaints seriously” and that in the future, they will be transparent and stand next to upgrade timelines:
" Again..I totally understand how you feel. And this should never happen. I am not going to throw out the argument “we just got here”. We are taking responsibility for this. And we will engage with you, listen carefully to your concerns and most importantly, try to FIX things.
So we are doing that. My team knows to take your complaints seriously, we are working hard to update the Upgrades timeline pages to reflect the right data, and then we WILL stand next to those timings and will meet them. As far as what is in our control, we will be transparent and we will commit to your happiness."
Link to the Droid-Life article, mods if I'm not allowed to link other sites let me know I apologize if so.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/2...raw-deal-new-motorola-will-try-to-fix-things/
Yea, I saw this. To really make up for it. Just skip ICS and surprise us with Jelly Bean. I would love Motorola forever if they did that.
PuttsMoBilesiCit said:
Yea, I saw this. To really make up for it. Just skip ICS and surprise us with Jelly Bean. I would love Motorola forever if they did that.
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Well, making it right would probably be one of two things: either some type of subsidy toward the purchase of a new device, or Jelly Bean. Either way, it's better than nothing!
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At this stage, a subsidy for a new phone would be what I want. Over a year and no ICS OTA. Time to get better hardware running JB, than wait for Verizon to maybe send it out.
I can't make up my mind if I would rather want an update to JB or having our bootloader officially unlocked as a form of compensation.
this whole ics thing on the bionic bums me out. I love the phone, bought ALL the accessories like lapdock, hd dock, standard doc and every case you can imagine, then this! Moto, there is still time to prevent us from being thrown under the bus. you know what to do, NOW DO IT!
How much of the no ICS is Motorola and how much is Verizon? I'd bet Verizon has a big hand it. They want you to buy a new phone and a new 2 yr contract. Motorola gets paid no matter what and will keep developing phones.
All I have to say is that it better be Jelly Bean. A credit of $100? Big deal, that $100 is a credit towards a different Motorola. I don't want another Motorola again after this experience. Next will be either a Samsung or HTC.
Fyi apparently Bionic owners won't get the credit of $100.
http://easternmorningherald.com/motorola-droid-bionic-ics-update-delays-cause-frustration/1219910/
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Well despite the delays I still love my Bionic, even if ICS is not yet officially available. Regardless the lack of a $100 rebate is not the end of the world for me. I'll probably get a Samsung when the time to upgrade comes along. Oh well..
I think it is soon time to leave Motorola for a while. Maybe I will return in the future
Get Razor HD MAXX Dev
When will that be out early 2013?
jpeckinp said:
How much of the no ICS is Motorola and how much is Verizon? I'd bet Verizon has a big hand it. They want you to buy a new phone and a new 2 yr contract. Motorola gets paid no matter what and will keep developing phones.
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Not to mention that VZW is trying very hard to get people to dump there unlimited data plans. If they have one and are on the Bionic with JB and the 1.2Ghz bump why would they need to upgrade?
mikemikemikexxx said:
Fyi apparently Bionic owners won't get the credit of $100.
http://easternmorningherald.com/motorola-droid-bionic-ics-update-delays-cause-frustration/1219910/
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Is that because the Bionic is "supposed to" receive ICS "at some point"??? or for some other reason? (the article doesn't clearly explain)
KidJoe said:
Is that because the Bionic is "supposed to" receive ICS "at some point"??? or for some other reason? (the article doesn't clearly explain)
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The dude said that you would get the $100 if you don't receive Jelly Bean...so I suppose that means we get both?
You obviously did not read my post on page 1 and as of an hour ago we are 100% getting ics. I got a soak test email
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mikemikemikexxx said:
You obviously did not read my post on page 1 and as of an hour ago we are 100% getting ics. I got a soak test email
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I got invite for soak too! cool!
soak test emails
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I got invite for soak too! cool!
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I'm new to putting root and custom rom on a phone but I was curious as how one Is able to receive those emails for soak tests.
You need to be a member of the motorola owners forum and sign up for their feedback network.
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Look, I get that SamsungJohn is trying to open the lines of communication. Here's the problem, he's not giving anything back. If you want to know how we all feel, just read the boards, I think you'll get the point. Ergo, why you showed up here John. You guys have already read the boards, you know what our complaints and desires are. So, you really have only two options at this point. Since you've already outed Samsung for monitoring the XDA boards (by showing up here in the frst place), you can:
1. Continue the "what, who, me?!?" routine and waste our (and your own time)
or
2. Tell us the truth about our concerns
SPOILER ALERT: *****Choosing option one will remove customers from your current base. Choosing option two, while it may not increase your customer base, may have an effect on your word of mouth advertising (which will probably have an effect on your Tab 10.1 sales versus the Xoom [FYI and unrelated, leaving USB off the 10.1 was a seriously bad idea]).*****
Just food for thought from a long time lurker here.
I pretty much agree...That said, if SSJohn had done this three or four months ago, he would have been welcomed, but showing up this late, after everyone's patience has gone and he is reaping what his bosses have sown.
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From what I see, he was here to generate favorable press. By showing up and claiming to be official he garnered stories in a numbers of web mags and blogs about "Samsung reaching out to the community". Now that he's faded away? I haven't seen a mention, and if it's brought up they can always show how the community wouldn't work with them.
PR 101
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I don't get why they waited to bother with sending this John guy so late in the game. Everyone is already pissed. Sending in some PR goob to do half-assed damage control will just make it worse on Samsung.
i dunno if ya know but the european galaxy s phone has had froyo for months , and the hardware is about 99.999% same , clearly its not an issue of "its not ready yet" but business politics
Epic 4g Froyo source released
Not sure if SamsungJohn had anything to do with it but the source for the Epic 4G Froyo release scheduled for Monday has been released this morning (See the Epic dev section). I've never seen that happen before - source released before an update.
So... can we cut him some slack and just see what happens?
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Not sure if SamsungJohn had anything to do with it but the source for the Epic 4G Froyo release scheduled for Monday has been released this morning (See the Epic dev section). I've never seen that happen before - source released before an update.
So... can we cut him some slack and just let him see what happens?
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I agree
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Anybody else see the news on this? I'm hoping for great things in the distant future!
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This is a game changer for the industry. I'm not saying Google's going to come in and dominate now that they have a cell phone production company. This does mean that each business that competes in the cell phone market will have to re-evaluate how they approach the competition.
I'm hoping it'll also means we get some pure vanilla Android devices from Motorola like the original Droid was.....
I was thinking the same thing as far as the vanilla android. I'm hoping for a few more keyboard sliders like the droid line as well as quicker updates. Probably won't see it with the D3 but as future devices come out, and it'd definitely be nice.
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This is a game changer for the industry. I'm not saying Google's going to come in and dominate now that they have a cell phone production company. This does mean that each business that competes in the cell phone market will have to re-evaluate how they approach the competition.
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I think the additional control they'll have will allow for better QC. I may dislike the iphone but I do see how working with everything so closely knit allows for a better device overall. I just hope the other alliance manufacturers don't catch a hissy over this.
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So far, no hissy fits LOL But this is also PR speak as well.
Peter Chou, CEO, HTC:
We welcome the news of today's acquisition, which demonstrates that Google is deeply committed to defending Android, its partners, and the entire ecosystem.
Bert Nordberg, President & CEO, Sony Ericsson:
I welcome Google's commitment to defending Android and its partners.
Jong-Seok Park, President & CEO, LG:
We welcome Google's commitment to defending Android and its partners.
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So far, no hissy fits LOL But this is also PR speak as well.
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That's good so far! I'm sure google took special precautions before letting the news out so the other oems wouldn't feel threatened.
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Maybe this will mean quicker updates for us in the future, especially if the OMAP4 is the lead platform for ICS. I'd love it if the D3 and Bionic were the first non Nexus devices to get vanilla ICS.
I'm just thinking of all the possibilities now...(hopefully) we can get things like unlocked bootloader, faster ICS thats hopefully vanilla, and all that fun stuff now.
I was so surprised at this when I read it this morning I actually checked to make sure it wasn't Apr 1.
I hope this means unlocked bootloader and root is coming soon to this phone! Also, we need some ICS!
i dont know if this is already well known but i just came across it. here is a petition for motorola mobility to unlock the bootloaders. sign if you like, i just did.
http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2
This is very well known. Belongs in the general section, and there are already three other threads qwith this. And bout ten threads that turned into talks like this. All unlock talk has already discussed
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Sorry, just trying to help. My search turned up no threads like this, and theres really no reason to be a **** about it.
signed
Signed
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Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
shobon said:
Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
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This
Not being a ****. Just blunt. There are so many and people have been told alot so its too much to write a nice letter each time.
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edit: hope i didnt offend you though. im really just a blunt person, no harm :]
We have been signing petitions since the OG Droid. Never worked.
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
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I don't have any issue with the concept of this, and I signed it, although I don't think moto cares given the size of the actual modding population. However, why do people throw around the word 'rights' so much? Really, it's a right? No it's a want... I know I'll prolly get derided for this but still... Right?
This convo has been had millions of times. really doesnt need to be repeated to the same effect where it changes nothin
Agreed.
Noble intentions, wasted time.
Either googlerolla will deliver or they won't.
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Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
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I agree with you 100%.
I still signed.
That's how frustrated I feel at all this. I'm reminded of my time with the orginal milestone. Checking internet every day to see if someone fgured out how to shoehorn froyo onto the thing. For some reason I thought moto would change... maybe it was because they said they would.
Yeah its a long shot for this petition to do anything, I very sincerely doubt it will. But I would love to be wrong. It only takes two seconds to sign it.
Signed also
While I've signed the petition, I have a ready-made solution that nobody has seemed to mention yet... stop buying Motorola devices.
I've enjoyed Moto's offerings since the OG Droid days, mainly because of the superior build quality, but due to Moto's lock down on devices, and their lack of willingness to placate us, the way HTC has done, the D3 will be the last Motorola device I purchase. Let's face it, performance-wise, Moto doesn't build top-notch machines, the screen quality is sub par, and support is non-existent. Build quality is the ONLY thing they have going for them, and with Samsung making moves to improve their own build quality, I don't see any reason to stick around.
Motorola is not going to change their stance on this matter, and as such, the only way we can really make them listen, is by hitting them where it hurts...their wallets. I believe over 10,000 people have signed the petition (not a huge number, compared to global Moto sales), but 10,000 units at $150 each, equates to $1,500,000 in revenue. Again, that number may be small by comparison, but I'm sure a $1.5m decrease would get someone's attention.
My advice to anyone who's upset enough to sign this petition, is to move to a company with a better track record of being development friendly. Quad-core offerings are on the horizon, and a new Nexus device should be spotted around Christmas...I'll be saving my money, and WILL be jumping ship as soon as I can. The Moto journey has been "fun", but it's time to trade build quality for better performance and support. I'm done buying phones that are (essentially) dead on arrival, and obsolete within 3 months of release... I urge the rest of you to follow suit.
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I signed it but it will not work every phone i have gotten they stop suporting it and i have had my droid 3 for a few mouths and some keys are not working right i have to hit them 3 to 4 times when i get the money and its very unlikly im going with a new phone with a unlocked bootloader or one with one that can have a good work a round but the droid 3 is a good phone dont get me worng i just need a unlocked bootloader that way i will have custom kernels and working cm9
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I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
DoubleYouPee said:
I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
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THAT!
i like HTC better than samsung, and being a fan of HTC since the S710 times...and having HTC dev around is pretty helpful.
BUT:
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-drops-qwerty-phones-78268/
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http://www.gsmarena.com/at_t_htc_one_x_not_part_of_htcs_bootloader_unlocking_program-news-4210.php
so...their methods are not perfect at all
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I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
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Yes! That's my main issue . However a soft keyboard is looking more and more possible as there won't be any other options...
Well I believe that we all want to free our Bionics from moto's lockdown. The knowledge and talent to bypass the bootloader is here and now. There are many that have signed petitions, started threads, and took there voice to the top of Verizon and motorola. Hopefully we can keep all that enthusiasm, and focus that energy to Kholk with Eternityproject. So why no love for the Bionic, the "red headed step child"? Why does the Razr already have a bootloader bypass?
I just talked to Kholk.....The issue is that these talented individuals behind developing the bypass for other moto phones simply don't have a Bionic to develop it on which makes things very difficult. So the question is....what can we do about it? How bad do you want this? If you have a Bionic to spare or some extra$ send me a PM for a direct link. You can also go to Eternityprojects website and give there. Just make sure you state that it's for the Bionic. I hope the moderators of this forum can understand the importance of this developement and NOT kill this thread. This is a great leap in development.
Here's the donate page for EternityProject:
http://www.eternityproject.eu/donate
As much as I wish this was true look at the past. There are far and few who have been with and only with Motorola for a reason, and ashamed I am one. Other than the device that was no longer supported by Motorola there is only one that got lucky due to an internal source. If any one truly wants to donate money it might as well be in another manufacturer. I'm not hating on any external developers I'm just saying we all should learn the lesson that rings true. Motorola wants us all to blame the service provider but the truth is they just don't have the balls to stand up to them like other manufacturers do (Samsung). We all paid and own this device yet we are still told what we can and cannot do with it. To me this sounds like a lawsuit and yes we have heard arguing view points from both sides for for years now need not it be now. Long story short, you have lost one more customer Motorola....
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I think we should just look into the future of the moto bypass.
This isn't about moto...it's about us!
[mbm] started the work on the kexec bypass on the Bionic and gave his code base to kholk, who then adapted it for his GSM RAZR with success. He then sent that back to [mbm] to try to make it work on the CDMA/LTE Razr. That has not worked unfortunately and they are both still working on it. It does not work as is on the D4 or Bionic either.
My point is that this exploit originated on the Bionic as an extent ion of the Milestone kexec project and the principal dev who did it already has the device. I am not against donating to devs for devices but I also don't think throwing money at a problem is always the best route to a solution either.
Just an FYI about some of the history here.
Maybe Motorola will wake up due to their slumping sales. I still prefer Motorola to Samsung though. But I will seriously look into going back to HTC this winter.
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I've been a long time reader of this forum, since blackberry pearl was the newest hottest phone, but until now have yet to register. I got my turbo a week after release, and i love it...i read all these articles who's getting lollipop and when....If motorola is updating all their old phones from 2012, and us with their flagship phone have yet to get it, and there releasing phones this month with 5.0 on them to INDIA of all places, guys Turbo prolly isnt going to see it for awhile if ever...This phone IMO was like verizons ellipsis tablet, released with one update and no further information lol yeah we all want a bug free OS, but to do a 3 year old phone and not your flagship phone?
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NMichael114 said:
I've been a long time reader of this forum, since blackberry pearl was the newest hottest phone, but until now have yet to register. I got my turbo a week after release, and i love it...i read all these articles who's getting lollipop and when....If motorola is updating all their old phones from 2012, and us with their flagship phone have yet to get it, and there releasing phones this month with 5.0 on them to INDIA of all places, guys Turbo prolly isnt going to see it for awhile if ever...This phone IMO was like verizons ellipsis tablet, released with one update and no further information lol yeah we all want a bug free OS, but to do a 3 year old phone and not your flagship phone?
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What the hell do u mean, INDIA of all places? O.O
Motorola gets a really good share of profits only cuz of its sales of Moto G and Moto E in India! And please oh please... I hope u are not being racist!
And there are so many threads discussing this man.. If u said you actually having been reading XDA regularly u would have known better not to clutter the General Forum... What can people at XDA do about this? How can posting here help? Only Motorola can help, contact their customer care or through social media for your answer!!
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I've been a long time reader of this forum, since blackberry pearl was the newest hottest phone, but until now have yet to register. I got my turbo a week after release, and i love it...i read all these articles who's getting lollipop and when....If motorola is updating all their old phones from 2012, and us with their flagship phone have yet to get it, and there releasing phones this month with 5.0 on them to INDIA of all places, guys Turbo prolly isnt going to see it for awhile if ever...This phone IMO was like verizons ellipsis tablet, released with one update and no further information lol yeah we all want a bug free OS, but to do a 3 year old phone and not your flagship phone?
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These threads are tiring.
In that VoLTE is natively supported in 5.1, did you not consider that may be why there was a hold up, because Verizon wanted that?
I'll bet you 1,000.00 dollars we get Lollipop. Are you game? Post your paypal if so. I could use the money from an easily won bet
Edit: And yeah, that India comment was misplaced.
Yeah looks like its confirmed that the 5.1 HD Voice does mean it works with Verzion VoLTE (I wasn't sure based on the screenshot they had). Seems very possible when Motorola learned about this they held off on their 5.01 or whatever with HD Voice added in to just release the version with the code in it already. Which is a good thing. Because had they released 5.0.1 or whatever a couple of weeks ago, you would have people whining for 5.1. Hopefully this means it will hit the Turbo in a short time.
I made a post about the Nexus 6 coming to Verizon with 5.1 already on it and suggested that the DT might be jumping straight to 5.1 around the time the Nexus 6 drops on Verizon. My hit or miss post doesn't seem so irrelevant now. lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3041938
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I made a post about the Nexus 6 coming to Verizon with 5.1 already on it and suggested that the DT might be jumping straight to 5.1 around the time the Nexus 6 drops on Verizon. My hit or miss post doesn't seem so irrelevant now. lol
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Indeed.
Congrats on your first post FAIL. How could you think the turbo wouldn't get another update that's ludicrous.
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Congrats on your first post FAIL. How could you think the turbo wouldn't get another update that's ludicrous.
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Agreed. The phone is still fairly new and considered a current flagship phone for Motorola (Next to the Nexus 6 but that's Google's baby as well so I don't think it can count as Motorola's flagship entirely). Getting back to my point, saying that a flagship phone is not going to get an update to "the latest and greatest in android" is just asking for someone to talk badly about you and even more so a cry for attention. Which is something we don't need.
What I mean by India is a third world country of all places before here where it launched. I hope I am wrong but like my tablet I went into Verizon was was talked to by a salesman to go with this newest device it's a flagship device so I did and the updates are where? I left the Galaxy line with no issues great reception speedy updates... My tablet was the same thing a verizon exclusive updated once and forgotten.
What I'm saying is why update stuff that's old when after two years most people upgrade? My flagship store, I'm there daily to make sure it's running good, clean and people want to come back the old store has a customer base like the old phones they update them when it's time to update them things.
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What I mean by India is a third world country of all places before here where it launched. I hope I am wrong but like my tablet I went into Verizon was was talked to by a salesman to go with this newest device it's a flagship device so I did and the updates are where? I left the Galaxy line with no issues great reception speedy updates... My tablet was the same thing a verizon exclusive updated once and forgotten.
What I'm saying is why update stuff that's old when after two years most people upgrade? My flagship store, I'm there daily to make sure it's running good, clean and people want to come back the old store has a customer base like the old phones they update them when it's time to update them things.
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Don't worry about it. It's just kinda tense here sometimes, and we're all kinda surly and curmudgeonly because we seem to be kept in the dark regarding just about everything related to this device. Everyone has or had certain expectations from it and the support that we were expecting by Motorola and/or Verizon, and it's nowhere near as exciting as we'd hoped.
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What I mean by India is a third world country of all places... .
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I am not sure what your concept of India is, but its a highly developing country... most of the worlds best mathematicians, physicists, etc are indian. Its not like the genies and gypsies you read about in Disney books
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diabl0w said:
I am not sure what your concept of India is, but its a highly developing country... most of the worlds best mathematicians, physicists, etc are indian. Its not like the genies and gypsies you read about in Disney books
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Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. I was offended by the "third world country" comment and I'm an Italian American! ?
Not much of an apology...
Anyway I gave up wanting lollipop I am hoping Verizon and Motorola scrap the droid and unlock the bootloader
NMichael114 said:
What I mean by India is a third world country of all places before here where it launched. I hope I am wrong but like my tablet I went into Verizon was was talked to by a salesman to go with this newest device it's a flagship device so I did and the updates are where? I left the Galaxy line with no issues great reception speedy updates... My tablet was the same thing a verizon exclusive updated once and forgotten.
What I'm saying is why update stuff that's old when after two years most people upgrade? My flagship store, I'm there daily to make sure it's running good, clean and people want to come back the old store has a customer base like the old phones they update them when it's time to update them things.
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Seriously!?! INDIA is one of the powerful economies right now...!! Third world country? Seriously? Watch your words man... I am not saying this just cus I am an INDIAN n I m proud of it, but just being born in a country doesn't give you the rights to think less of other places.... Country's and states are just imaginary lines that MAN drew on a piece of paper... We are all born equal, nothing gives u the right to enjoy something more n for someone else to do less, just cus they are born somewhere else... OK to make things clear, giving examples from the tech world itself...
1) Sundar Pichai, is an Indian businessman and a Senior Vice President at Google, where he oversees Android, Chrome, and Google Apps.
2) Punit Soni- the Guy who's Google Plus account people used to Flood asking for Motorola Updates? VP at Motorola.
3)One in every 3 Apple engineers is Indian
4)36% of scientists at NASA are Indians
U can google any of that to check for its credibility... I just wanted to prove India or Indians are no less... Please broaden ur mindset!
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Seriously!?! INDIA is one of the powerful economies right now...!! Third world country? Seriously? Watch your words man... I am not saying this just cus I am an INDIAN n I m proud of it, but just being born in a country doesn't give you the rights to think less of other places.... Country's and states are just imaginary lines that MAN drew on a piece of paper... We are all born equal, nothing gives u the right to enjoy something more n for someone else to do less, just cus they are born somewhere else... OK to make things clear, giving examples from the tech world itself...
1) Sundar Pichai, is an Indian businessman and a Senior Vice President at Google, where he oversees Android, Chrome, and Google Apps.
2) Punit Soni- the Guy who's Google Plus account people used to Flood asking for Motorola Updates? VP at Motorola.
3)One in every 3 Apple engineers is Indian
4)36% of scientists at NASA are Indians
U can google any of that to check for its credibility... I just wanted to prove India or Indians are no less... Please broaden ur mindset!
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Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?
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Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?
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I did not get that hint at all from his post, John.
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Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?
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If you had actually read n comprehend what I wrote you'd have a different opinion.
johnbravado said:
Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?
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I take things wrong all the time, and I too did not get that from his reply.
I'd say he said we are all on equal footing. Though I might question some Indian coding I've seen
Gundabolu SC said:
If you had actually read n comprehend what I wrote you'd have a different opinion.
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So now I am ignorant compared to your vast Indian intellect? I can't read or comprehend english?
It's obvious we will get lollipop and now that 5.1 was released looks like that's what Motorola was waiting for and or the nexus 6 coming soon to vzw. Patience is a virtue and now that we have about 5 months now without lollipop then let's keep waiting. Better having a less bugs version than getting a rushed update of 5.0.1 or 5.0.2