No Lollipop for Turbo? - Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh

I've been a long time reader of this forum, since blackberry pearl was the newest hottest phone, but until now have yet to register. I got my turbo a week after release, and i love it...i read all these articles who's getting lollipop and when....If motorola is updating all their old phones from 2012, and us with their flagship phone have yet to get it, and there releasing phones this month with 5.0 on them to INDIA of all places, guys Turbo prolly isnt going to see it for awhile if ever...This phone IMO was like verizons ellipsis tablet, released with one update and no further information lol yeah we all want a bug free OS, but to do a 3 year old phone and not your flagship phone?
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NMichael114 said:
I've been a long time reader of this forum, since blackberry pearl was the newest hottest phone, but until now have yet to register. I got my turbo a week after release, and i love it...i read all these articles who's getting lollipop and when....If motorola is updating all their old phones from 2012, and us with their flagship phone have yet to get it, and there releasing phones this month with 5.0 on them to INDIA of all places, guys Turbo prolly isnt going to see it for awhile if ever...This phone IMO was like verizons ellipsis tablet, released with one update and no further information lol yeah we all want a bug free OS, but to do a 3 year old phone and not your flagship phone?
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What the hell do u mean, INDIA of all places? O.O
Motorola gets a really good share of profits only cuz of its sales of Moto G and Moto E in India! And please oh please... I hope u are not being racist!
And there are so many threads discussing this man.. If u said you actually having been reading XDA regularly u would have known better not to clutter the General Forum... What can people at XDA do about this? How can posting here help? Only Motorola can help, contact their customer care or through social media for your answer!!

NMichael114 said:
I've been a long time reader of this forum, since blackberry pearl was the newest hottest phone, but until now have yet to register. I got my turbo a week after release, and i love it...i read all these articles who's getting lollipop and when....If motorola is updating all their old phones from 2012, and us with their flagship phone have yet to get it, and there releasing phones this month with 5.0 on them to INDIA of all places, guys Turbo prolly isnt going to see it for awhile if ever...This phone IMO was like verizons ellipsis tablet, released with one update and no further information lol yeah we all want a bug free OS, but to do a 3 year old phone and not your flagship phone?
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These threads are tiring.
In that VoLTE is natively supported in 5.1, did you not consider that may be why there was a hold up, because Verizon wanted that?
I'll bet you 1,000.00 dollars we get Lollipop. Are you game? Post your paypal if so. I could use the money from an easily won bet
Edit: And yeah, that India comment was misplaced.

Yeah looks like its confirmed that the 5.1 HD Voice does mean it works with Verzion VoLTE (I wasn't sure based on the screenshot they had). Seems very possible when Motorola learned about this they held off on their 5.01 or whatever with HD Voice added in to just release the version with the code in it already. Which is a good thing. Because had they released 5.0.1 or whatever a couple of weeks ago, you would have people whining for 5.1. Hopefully this means it will hit the Turbo in a short time.

I made a post about the Nexus 6 coming to Verizon with 5.1 already on it and suggested that the DT might be jumping straight to 5.1 around the time the Nexus 6 drops on Verizon. My hit or miss post doesn't seem so irrelevant now. lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3041938

GreaterLesser said:
I made a post about the Nexus 6 coming to Verizon with 5.1 already on it and suggested that the DT might be jumping straight to 5.1 around the time the Nexus 6 drops on Verizon. My hit or miss post doesn't seem so irrelevant now. lol
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Indeed.

Congrats on your first post FAIL. How could you think the turbo wouldn't get another update that's ludicrous.
sent from "my kungfu is stronger then yours" XT1080

bigv5150 said:
Congrats on your first post FAIL. How could you think the turbo wouldn't get another update that's ludicrous.
sent from "my kungfu is stronger then yours" XT1080
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Agreed. The phone is still fairly new and considered a current flagship phone for Motorola (Next to the Nexus 6 but that's Google's baby as well so I don't think it can count as Motorola's flagship entirely). Getting back to my point, saying that a flagship phone is not going to get an update to "the latest and greatest in android" is just asking for someone to talk badly about you and even more so a cry for attention. Which is something we don't need.

What I mean by India is a third world country of all places before here where it launched. I hope I am wrong but like my tablet I went into Verizon was was talked to by a salesman to go with this newest device it's a flagship device so I did and the updates are where? I left the Galaxy line with no issues great reception speedy updates... My tablet was the same thing a verizon exclusive updated once and forgotten.
What I'm saying is why update stuff that's old when after two years most people upgrade? My flagship store, I'm there daily to make sure it's running good, clean and people want to come back the old store has a customer base like the old phones they update them when it's time to update them things.

NMichael114 said:
What I mean by India is a third world country of all places before here where it launched. I hope I am wrong but like my tablet I went into Verizon was was talked to by a salesman to go with this newest device it's a flagship device so I did and the updates are where? I left the Galaxy line with no issues great reception speedy updates... My tablet was the same thing a verizon exclusive updated once and forgotten.
What I'm saying is why update stuff that's old when after two years most people upgrade? My flagship store, I'm there daily to make sure it's running good, clean and people want to come back the old store has a customer base like the old phones they update them when it's time to update them things.
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Don't worry about it. It's just kinda tense here sometimes, and we're all kinda surly and curmudgeonly because we seem to be kept in the dark regarding just about everything related to this device. Everyone has or had certain expectations from it and the support that we were expecting by Motorola and/or Verizon, and it's nowhere near as exciting as we'd hoped.

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What I mean by India is a third world country of all places... .
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I am not sure what your concept of India is, but its a highly developing country... most of the worlds best mathematicians, physicists, etc are indian. Its not like the genies and gypsies you read about in Disney books
Edit: Some* not most

diabl0w said:
I am not sure what your concept of India is, but its a highly developing country... most of the worlds best mathematicians, physicists, etc are indian. Its not like the genies and gypsies you read about in Disney books
Edit: Some* not most
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Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. I was offended by the "third world country" comment and I'm an Italian American! ?
Not much of an apology...

Anyway I gave up wanting lollipop I am hoping Verizon and Motorola scrap the droid and unlock the bootloader

NMichael114 said:
What I mean by India is a third world country of all places before here where it launched. I hope I am wrong but like my tablet I went into Verizon was was talked to by a salesman to go with this newest device it's a flagship device so I did and the updates are where? I left the Galaxy line with no issues great reception speedy updates... My tablet was the same thing a verizon exclusive updated once and forgotten.
What I'm saying is why update stuff that's old when after two years most people upgrade? My flagship store, I'm there daily to make sure it's running good, clean and people want to come back the old store has a customer base like the old phones they update them when it's time to update them things.
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Seriously!?! INDIA is one of the powerful economies right now...!! Third world country? Seriously? Watch your words man... I am not saying this just cus I am an INDIAN n I m proud of it, but just being born in a country doesn't give you the rights to think less of other places.... Country's and states are just imaginary lines that MAN drew on a piece of paper... We are all born equal, nothing gives u the right to enjoy something more n for someone else to do less, just cus they are born somewhere else... OK to make things clear, giving examples from the tech world itself...
1) Sundar Pichai, is an Indian businessman and a Senior Vice President at Google, where he oversees Android, Chrome, and Google Apps.
2) Punit Soni- the Guy who's Google Plus account people used to Flood asking for Motorola Updates? VP at Motorola.
3)One in every 3 Apple engineers is Indian
4)36% of scientists at NASA are Indians
U can google any of that to check for its credibility... I just wanted to prove India or Indians are no less... Please broaden ur mindset!

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Seriously!?! INDIA is one of the powerful economies right now...!! Third world country? Seriously? Watch your words man... I am not saying this just cus I am an INDIAN n I m proud of it, but just being born in a country doesn't give you the rights to think less of other places.... Country's and states are just imaginary lines that MAN drew on a piece of paper... We are all born equal, nothing gives u the right to enjoy something more n for someone else to do less, just cus they are born somewhere else... OK to make things clear, giving examples from the tech world itself...
1) Sundar Pichai, is an Indian businessman and a Senior Vice President at Google, where he oversees Android, Chrome, and Google Apps.
2) Punit Soni- the Guy who's Google Plus account people used to Flood asking for Motorola Updates? VP at Motorola.
3)One in every 3 Apple engineers is Indian
4)36% of scientists at NASA are Indians
U can google any of that to check for its credibility... I just wanted to prove India or Indians are no less... Please broaden ur mindset!
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Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?

johnbravado said:
Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?
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I did not get that hint at all from his post, John.

johnbravado said:
Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?
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If you had actually read n comprehend what I wrote you'd have a different opinion.

johnbravado said:
Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?
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I take things wrong all the time, and I too did not get that from his reply.
I'd say he said we are all on equal footing. Though I might question some Indian coding I've seen

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If you had actually read n comprehend what I wrote you'd have a different opinion.
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So now I am ignorant compared to your vast Indian intellect? I can't read or comprehend english?

It's obvious we will get lollipop and now that 5.1 was released looks like that's what Motorola was waiting for and or the nexus 6 coming soon to vzw. Patience is a virtue and now that we have about 5 months now without lollipop then let's keep waiting. Better having a less bugs version than getting a rushed update of 5.0.1 or 5.0.2

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N1 is dead :(

My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.
http://www.mobilemag.com/2010/07/18/google-to-stop-selling-the-nexus-one/
It was widely heralded as the first real “Google Phone” and now it will soon be laid out to pasture. If you were hoping to get your hands on the Google Nexus One smartphone, I highly suggest you do it very soon, because Google has placed its final order with HTC for the device. After stock from this shipment is depleted Google will no longer be selling the Nexus One through its official online store. Nada. No more. Kaput. You have plenty of other options in the Android realm, like the HTC Droid Incredible, but the Nexus One holds a special place in cell phone history.
That’s the bad news, but there are two smaller tidbits of good news. First, Google will continue to offer support through its customer service lines. So, if you already have one of these devices in hand, you can still get help when you need it. Second, Google is looking for a way to continue selling the Nexus One through a sales partner, but these sales will be restricted to registered app developers.
I guess you go out and buy just about any other Google Android device offered through your carrier of choice, but those oftentimes contain some carrier-specific doo-dahs. The Nexus One is, as far as we can tell, the only true clean-slate and completely unlocked Android that you can get on a very official basis.
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My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.
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And it's complete nonsense, as is the other exact same thread as this one.
Not hardly dead...Still plenty of life & development in our Nexus
tin_can_ said:
My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.
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For f**k's sake, stop trolling the panic.
How many topics a day do we need about this?!
FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME:
Nexus One's ONLY purpose and the SOLE reason for existence was to promote android and show what it can do on a good hardware. They planned to have Nexus 2 to continue pushing android. Since so many companies like HTC/Motorola/Samsung jumped on an Android band-wagon, Google officially stopped Nexus TWO development and slowing down (NOT STOPPED!!!!!!!) Nexus One sales.
As per Google's CEO own words, "NEXUS ONE WAS SO SUCCESSFULL, THAT WE DON'T NEED NEXUS TWO."
If your brain is so tiny that it can't understand that Nexus One was a huge success for what it was intended for, and that Google NEVER intended to make money on phones directly, then I beg you, please go hang out on iPhone forums where you'll find your kin.
Jesus holy Christ.
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I sold my Nexus on Craigslist on Friday. Bought a Vibrant Thursday. After holding that phone for 1 second I knew I had to have it. Screen was downright AMAZING! I love what the Nexus gave me but this is the nature of technology and you can lament it or accept it.
They saying shouldn't be "if you've got nothinng nice to say, say nothing at all" it should be "if you're an idiot, stop talking".
DarkDvr said:
For f**k's sake, stop trolling the panic.
How many topics a day do we need about this?!
FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME:
Nexus One's ONLY purpose and the SOLE reason for existence was to promote android and show what it can do on a good hardware. They planned to have Nexus 2 to continue pushing android. Since so many companies like HTC/Motorola/Samsung jumped on an Android band-wagon, Google officially stopped Nexus TWO development and slowing down (NOT STOPPED!!!!!!!) Nexus One sales.
As per Google's CEO own words, "NEXUS ONE WAS SO SUCCESSFULL, THAT WE DON'T NEED NEXUS TWO."
If your brain is so tiny that it can't understand that Nexus One was a huge success for what it was intended for, and that Google NEVER intended to make money on phones directly, then I beg you, please go hang out on iPhone forums where you'll find your kin.
Jesus holy Christ.
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DarkDvr may I have another?
Took the words right out of my mouth...
That's good news, if the phone won't be available discounted through carriers, it will remain rare!!!! A true gem!
As long as we're be able to run Gingerbread when it's released it would keep me happy for many more months
Actually you can still buy one, you just have to pay $25 for the developer channel i think.

Why is it that the USA gets a full line-up of hTC's devices?

I've been browsing the web and certain regional websites of the hTC...All i find is the USA gets a larger share of the device launches compared to the rest of the World. Why is this partiality taking place? Even the non-residing USA crowd likes to have some great devices like the Droid series, the new WP devices in their hands...This is really disappointing.
I guess it was due time. For many, many years, the US was always last to get any half decent pda phone offered by any carrier....
I guess hTC realized the importance of the US market and decided to give us a shot
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I guess it was due time. For many, many years, the US was always last to get any half decent pda phone offered by any carrier....
I guess hTC realized the importance of the US market and decided to give us a shot
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Ya,but i am concerned of the shot hTC is giving in my ass after launching those smart, high-end devices in USA and i keep waiting for them to come in India or at least the neighboring shores so that i can grab one...Smart shot Ass hTC...Huh!
I find motorola worse with their droid line up but I do know what you mean, think on the bright side though, we have the Desire HD which is faster than any other htc in the us albeit we got it late
But motorola..
Droid 2 was out s few months ago in US and the milestone 2 they haven't even released yet when they're pretty much the same phone
MacaronyMax said:
I find motorola worse with their droid line up but I do know what you mean, think on the bright side though, we have the Desire HD which is faster than any other htc in the us albeit we got it late
But motorola..
Droid 2 was out s few months ago in US and the milestone 2 they haven't even released yet when they're pretty much the same phone
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I still haven't seen the Desire HD in India.
SO EMBARRASSING
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I still haven't seen the Desire HD in India.
SO EMBARRASSING
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Aha Well UK anyway
for moto it makes sense since they are a US company. americans believe they are the best and dont think about the rest of the world.
(i'm american so don't yell at me for this)
nellyspageli said:
for moto it makes sense since they are a US company. americans believe they are the best and dont think about the rest of the world.
(i'm american so don't yell at me for this)
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lol I was goin to say thats a bit sterotypicial until I saw you were from the US
But it does make sense to sell abroad, more sales ;D
nellyspageli said:
for moto it makes sense since they are a US company. americans believe they are the best and dont think about the rest of the world.
(i'm american so don't yell at me for this)
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Maybe you think you Americans are better then the rest.. I don't (And I am American!)
You can always get any device you want through the WWW
Here in México it is just arriving the Rhodium
orb3000 said:
You can always get any device you want through the WWW
Here in México it is just arriving the Rhodium
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Hmm...That really sucks...
Well, i don't wanna put any hatred towards Americans...So please don't post any hatred posts.
Yeah it´s bad, and I think it´s related to the fact there is no hTC store in the country so I always buy my devices from US or Europe
Ugh, Canada has horrible Droid phones, imho.
Rogers is exceptionally horrible, except the new Vibrant. I think we need more competition in Canada.
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Yeah it´s bad, and I think it´s related to the fact there is no hTC store in the country so I always buy my devices from US or Europe
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and then you sell it for double
Not double but if you are into that business, yes you can make some extra bucks.
I am not really interested on that I just want to have my devices
Snuuuuupy said:
Ugh, Canada has horrible Droid phones, imho.
Rogers is exceptionally horrible, except the new Vibrant. I think we need more competition in Canada.
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What about the HTC Desire Z from Bell? I'm dying for one of those
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and then you sell it for double
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Double? Well,our government people are real suckers...they evade VAT on every damn commodity.Politicians are crap. they are corrupt, use taxpayers money and use high end gadgets and the country gets poorer...
nellyspageli said:
for moto it makes sense since they are a US company. americans believe they are the best and dont think about the rest of the world.
(i'm american so don't yell at me for this)
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Dont sugar coat it, America is the best.
... Think back to WW2, how would europe be without us... Just sayin
Igotsanevo4g said:
Dont sugar coat it, America is the best.
... Think back to WW2, how would europe be without us... Just sayin
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True...But if Hitler wouldn't have surrendered, how could you guyz win the war? And ultimately if that never happened,how would have you posted here?
Imagine Hitler with a bugged ROM on XDA...I fear he would have capsized XDA and put us into house arrest...
Imagine Hitler releasing a ROM of his own.....The Hitler series...
Imagine some one criticizing Hitler for a perfectly buggy ROM...
Imagine Mr. President help Hitler with the ext packages....
Finally imagine a XDA World summit where Hitler and his ROM Addicts discussing about various ROMs...
Imagine Hitler getting pissed off reading ORb's signature...
Imagine Hitler posting spam and getting Banned on XDA... LOL!
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True...But if Hitler wouldn't have surrendered, how could you guyz win the war? And ultimately if that never happened,how would have you posted here?
Imagine Hitler with a bugged ROM on XDA...I fear he would have capsized XDA and put us into house arrest...
Imagine Hitler releasing a ROM of his own.....The Hitler series...
Imagine some one criticizing Hitler for a perfectly buggy ROM...
Imagine Mr. President help Hitler with the ext packages....
Finally imagine a XDA World summit where Hitler and his ROM Addicts discussing about various ROMs...
Imagine Hitler getting pissed off reading ORb's signature...
Imagine Hitler posting spam and getting Banned on XDA... LOL!
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Uhmmmm, unless im missing something when did hitler surrender?
Btw the USA is the best and im Canadian.
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SamsungJohn : A Question For You

I find this very curious, since January, I have been very vocal on the Samsung USA Facebook page as well as Twitter about the missing Froyo update. Today I went to check the Facebook page to find that somehow I had lost the ability to post anything.. shortly thereafter, I realized that I no longer "liked" the Samsung USA page. I did not do that myself, Samsung must have had that done (reported me for spamming/abuse?). Perusing the wall posts, I notice a distinct lack of people complaining about the 2.2 update.
I was not abusive, I did not swear or use foul language in any of my posts on that wall. I cracked a few jokes, sure, but nothing that could have been considered over-the-top. In fact, I waited until AFTER the promised "by the end of the year" deadline (promised to me on Twitter by @GalaxySSupport) to even being posting any complaints.
Is this Samsung's damage-control strategy moving forward? To try to stifle public outcry by booting us off of your pages and deleting our posts?
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I find this very curious, since January, I have been very vocal on the Samsung USA Facebook page as well as Twitter about the missing Froyo update. Today I went to check the Facebook page to find that somehow I had lost the ability to post anything.. shortly thereafter, I realized that I no longer "liked" the Samsung USA page. I did not do that myself, Samsung must have had that done (reported me for spamming/abuse?). Perusing the wall posts, I notice a distinct lack of people complaining about the 2.2 update.
I was not abusive, I did not swear or use foul language in any of my posts on that wall. I cracked a few jokes, sure, but nothing that could have been considered over-the-top. In fact, I waited until AFTER the promised "by the end of the year" deadline (promised to me on Twitter by @GalaxySSupport) to even being posting any complaints.
Is this Samsung's damage-control strategy moving forward? To try to stifle public outcry by booting us off of your pages and deleting our posts?
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You know this is very interesting as when trying to give the Vibrant a bad review (for the software not the hardware) on their website it will tell you that they are looking for different type of reviews and won't post the bad one.
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You know this is very interesting as when trying to give the Vibrant a bad review (for the software not the hardware) on their website it will tell you that they are looking for different type of reviews and won't post the bad one.
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thats insane. i'm really starting to dislike the samsung brand. buying a new tv soon too to replace my 5 year old samsung
Unless samsung comes out with something AMAZING (honeycomb for my Epic) to make up for all their lack with the galaxy S line, I will never buy another samsung product again.
SO MANY of my tech friends said "samsung does not support their phones, YOU WILL BE UPSET"
As I sit here the audio out ports on both my car and desk docks DO NOT WORK because they haven't released a year old 2.2 froyo.
Looks like my tech friends were right. The only reason my gps works is because of the hard working dev's here......and I have paid them for their work! I feel horrible for all the stock users in the world who have a **** gps thanks to samsung.
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Unless samsung comes out with something AMAZING (honeycomb for my Epic) to make up for all their lack with the galaxy S line, I will never buy another samsung product again.
SO MANY of my tech friends said "samsung does not support their phones, YOU WILL BE UPSET"
As I sit here the audio out ports on both my car and desk docks DO NOT WORK because they haven't released a year old 2.2 froyo.
Looks like my tech friends were right. The only reason my gps works is because of the hard working dev's here......and I have paid them for their work! I feel horrible for all the stock users in the world who have a **** gps thanks to samsung.
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I feel as if i should point out that my gps works just fine.
Sent from my non-rooted, stock eclair Epic.
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You know this is very interesting as when trying to give the Vibrant a bad review (for the software not the hardware) on their website it will tell you that they are looking for different type of reviews and won't post the bad one.
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wow. that left me stunned for a second.
swehes said:
You know this is very interesting as when trying to give the Vibrant a bad review (for the software not the hardware) on their website it will tell you that they are looking for different type of reviews and won't post the bad one.
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Same happened to me with the Captivate on AT&T's website. Except mine was all hardware complaints.
My hardware is perfect
But sadly software is not! Unless they move away from carrier based updates this will be my last Samsung or Android based phone.
Remember Samsung when my phone crashes due to poor or out of date software or can't download something for the same reason I don't see the 3 mobile logo all I see is the Samsung logo.
This is all happening too close to the release of the Galaxy S 2 launch!
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You know this is very interesting as when trying to give the Vibrant a bad review (for the software not the hardware) on their website it will tell you that they are looking for different type of reviews and won't post the bad one.
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Man, same thing happened to me w/ my Epic review. I was pretty honest that i loved the hardware but the software needed updating. Got a message saying my review did not match what they were looking for and was rejected. Pretty easy to have devices w/ 4 and 5 star aggregate scores on your website if you're controlling which reviews you accept samsung.
You guys should take some screenshots of this and send it around to sites like engadget. The more bad press we can get for samsung, the faster we see updates. Worked for the t-mobile guys after they very publicly accused samsung of holding back the update to sell their newer phone.
Hi Guys,
I am also a samsung owner, not the galaxy S series but a phone called the Samsung Spica i5700; not supported by Samsung anymore after they claimed the hardware was not capable to run Android 2.2 froyo, ehh! the devs over at samdroid have ported AOSP and CM builds of 2.2 froyo onto it and are as of now porting AOSP and CM of GB.
the point I have is samsung is pathetic in customer support, all they want is to sell the customers to buy there new devices, and when the samsung #nevergain hashtag was started by an xda member and the hashtag went BOOM into samsung's face they are here to regain some respect, for that they need to prove a point to us, we have already proven them wrong.
I think the way to froyo, is to keep the heat up till they break down and beg to give source away.
everyone should retweet this:
http://twitter.com/#!/vorathe/status/37634312098693120
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same here, never hit the web in their eyes
What can I say that has not been said more eloquently by others.
GPS + Froyo for Captivate Update please. As that would make the phone much more desirable and usable, The immediate next thing I am going to do is Ebay that Piece Of S***. Seriously Never going to touch a samsung phone even with a barge pole.
Thank you Samsung for making the Galaxy S brand a pinnacle for quality, support and customer satisfaction.
P.S. I know this has been posted before and does not add ANYTHING, but had to vent.
What the hell is samsungjohn discussing with the xda people? I mean it's been fully 5 days now and absolutely nothing of substance has emerged. What is taking so long? I mean seriously, can someone give an update or something?
Im not really sure theres much to discuss... but yeah, IF the 'hello' part 2 posts WERE the big announcement, it would be nice if the XDA powers that be just posted 'Sorry, thats really all he had to say, he wants to meet devs at a music festival, thats it... he is gone now, go about your business'. I just really hope he doesnt think an 'open dialogue' is a HUGE announcement, and actually has something WE care about. He may just think that was huge because, well its his thing... his job... to us its like, yeah, another source for cut n paste responses... great... oh and one not on FB or Twitter! How convenient!
Whoa! Did this just get moved to 'off topic'???
Wow... its like Samsung Mobile with negative comments!
whatever... Guess its not technically about a phone.
muyoso said:
You guys should take some screenshots of this and send it around to sites like engadget. The more bad press we can get for samsung, the faster we see updates. Worked for the t-mobile guys after they very publicly accused samsung of holding back the update to sell their newer phone.
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this one ! GOGOGO
Oh, that's terrible.

Anyone consider jumping ship?

Anyone ever consider jumping ship to apple to end the crack flashing. I don't know if this is a problem only I deal with but every time I have an android phone, especially with the nexus, I feel compelled to flash sometimes multiple times a day. Think I have a problem
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Anyone ever consider jumping ship to apple to end the crack flashing. I don't know if this is a problem only I deal with but every time I have an android phone, especially with the nexus, I feel compelled to flash sometimes multiple times a day. Think I have a problem
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Blasphemy!!! I verbally and physically attack all friends who use and think iPhone's are superior to Android (good Android). I'm also a flashaholic...I've never considered jumping to iOS and never will...for me an iPhone is for old people who can't grasp technology and tween girls who think having an iPhone makes them "cool" lol.
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Blasphemy!!! I verbally and physically attack all friends who use and think iPhone's are superior to Android (good Android). I'm also a flashaholic...I've never considered jumping to iOS and never will...for me an iPhone is for old people who can't grasp technology and tween girls who think having an iPhone makes them "cool" lol.
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I know, i know. It's crazy talk. Thought has crossed my mind though.
You must be tripping...
[/COLOR]Nex US Nex US... Use multi ROM and fill it with other ROMs without backups or losing the stock ROM.
Sent by aged flatus...
hockeyplayr said:
Anyone ever consider jumping ship to apple to end the crack flashing. I don't know if this is a problem only I deal with but every time I have an android phone, especially with the nexus, I feel compelled to flash sometimes multiple times a day. Think I have a problem
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Try it, but you know what's going to happen right? You will come back running lol
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Try it, but you know what's going to happen right? You will come back running lol
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No he won't. He'll feel all warm, cozy, protected, and fully satisfied under the all-knowing and all-satisfying blanket that is Apple.
Moderators. Please, close this thread.
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Moderators. Please, close this thread.
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Moderators cannot read every single thread. If you want to bring their attention to it, use the report button underneath post 1.
Had Nexus devices/HTCs/etc. Sold it to get an iPhone 6 (to stop my addiction). One month later, I've just sold the iPhone and about to buy a Nexus 6
Don't get me wrong, Apple do some stuff brilliantly (Touch ID is awesome!) but I just use Google's services too much
EddyOS said:
Had Nexus devices/HTCs/etc. Sold it to get an iPhone 6 (to stop my addiction). One month later, I've just sold the iPhone and about to buy a Nexus 6
Don't get me wrong, Apple do some stuff brilliantly (Touch ID is awesome!) but I just use Google's services too much
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Welcome to the N6. Maybe a good opportunity to change your avatar
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Welcome to the N6. Maybe a good opportunity to change your avatar
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Not got it yet, waiting on the buyer to pay! CPW have a good deal on at the moment so hoping to grab it this evening
Once I have it, I'll update everything accordingly
EDIT: Screw it - avatar changed!
EddyOS said:
Not got it yet, waiting on the buyer to pay! CPW have a good deal on at the moment so hoping to grab it this evening
Once I have it, I'll update everything accordingly
EDIT: Screw it - avatar changed!
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Heheh cool.
Oh hey by the way, I'm SUroot (AF) / rootSU (XDA) , if you remember me.
danarama said:
Heheh cool.
Oh hey by the way, I'm SUroot (AF) / rootSU (XDA) , if you remember me.
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Ahhhhh! Yes, I remember. How come you changed your name?
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Ahhhhh! Yes, I remember. How come you changed your name?
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People kept tagging me "SuperSU" in posts and people were apparently getting "confused". Plus I was a little bored of it anyway
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People kept tagging me "SuperSU" in posts and people were apparently getting "confused". Plus I was a little bored of it anyway
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Makes sense! Looks like I'm moving at the right time, Motorola have just dropped £80 off the N6 prices until June 30th (and CPW are even cheaper for the 64GB one)
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Makes sense! Looks like I'm moving at the right time, Motorola have just dropped £80 off the N6 prices until June 30th (and CPW are even cheaper for the 64GB one)
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Yes good timing!
Still full price in Play?
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Yes good timing!
Still full price in Play?
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Yes, strangely enough, although someone said the US Play Store is discounted...
Never. I hate ios
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Yes, strangely enough, although someone said the US Play Store is discounted...
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That is odd. I preferred to get from Play this time round for warranty purposes. I'm not sure its worth the extra though

Why Not OREO Still?

Why Not OREO Still?
I think samsung wont release Oreo for note8, until S9 is out there it mean If u want Oreo than go buy s9/s9+
but what do u think?
because the milk man hasn't done his round yet.
My phone still makes calls etc.. so I am cool. I bought the device for its hardware not the OS
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My phone still makes calls etc.. so I am cool. I bought the device for its hardware not the OS
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I generally agree with this sentiment because Samsung offers so many features out of the box that don't depend on OS upgrades. There is an exception for Android 8/Oreo.... Those Bluetooth codecs: APTX HD and LDAC for premium Bluetooth audio.
I couldn't care less about Android 8 if it weren't for the codecs that unlock the rest of my Note 8's potential. I go wired headphones on my Note 8 or just use HiFi BT headphones with my Mi Mix running Android 8, which has the codecs.
This is the frustrating element of owning Samsung phones their updates are really slow as compared to other manufacturers like my previous Sony Xperia XZ Premium got the oreo two months ago!
why so many threads about not having oreo yet
Last year, they delivered nougat to S7 and S7 Edge in May.
So we still 2 mouths ahead the schedule (Samsung schedule).
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Last year, they delivered nougat to S7 and S7 Edge in May.
So we still 2 mouths ahead the schedule (Samsung schedule).
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Indonesian G935FD got nougat in February before s8/+ launching :victory:
Oreo update for s8/+ should come before s9/+ landing
My guess, and it is a guess, is that we aren't far away. There are more and more carrier's getting the February security patches, but they are normally the last to get updates, and those that normally get the updates earlier are still waiting and stuck on the January release. My suspicion is that rather than release the February security updates on Nougat, we are waiting for an impending Oreo release.
I'm sure if you're hunting the latest OS number, Samsung is definitely not your Manufacturer of choice and shouldn't be. Go for a OnePlus who has the newest numbers.
You can cry about it how much you want, it won't change a thing though. They'll release it in due time, when it's ready. You're phone is still able to make calls, handle IMs, browse the web and much more because Samsung usually loves to clutter their high-end phones with functions in comparison to others.
This is seriously getting out of hand, xda needs to monitor these threads and delete them. No point in crying about numbers.
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I'm sure if you're hunting the latest OS number, Samsung is definitely not your Manufacturer of choice and shouldn't be. Go for a OnePlus who has the newest numbers.
You can cry about it how much you want, it won't change a thing though. They'll release it in due time, when it's ready. You're phone is still able to make calls, handle IMs, browse the web and much more because Samsung usually loves to clutter their high-end phones with functions in comparison to others.
This is seriously getting out of hand, xda needs to monitor these threads and delete them. No point in crying about numbers.
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OH THANKS God, My phone Note 8 is still able to make calls, so what you expect? if making call Was enough for me, Then I should've bought Samsung J1 or Nokia 1100 Not note8, But I paid for note8 because I want to use latest android. and I thin samsung wont release it in next 3 month.
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why so many threads about not having oreo yet
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Look at the view count for any thread that mentions 'Oreo', it tells you people here are desperate for it.
We will get Oreo this month according to some quite trustworthy leakers (Exynos). And US models might get it later this year. I guess Samsung had to fix some problems in February and they just decided to skip Oreo release until March. So that we will get Oreo with March security patch.
Don't worry man. It's around the corner. One day You will wake up and see Oreo OTA .
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OH THANKS God, My phone Note 8 is still able to make calls, so what you expect? if making call Was enough for me, Then I should've bought Samsung J1 or Nokia 1100 Not note8, But I paid for note8 because I want to use latest android. and I thin samsung wont release it in next 3 month.
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You do know most people bought the Note8 because it's actually a really convenient phone right and not just some show-off piece of glass & metal?
(With it's signature S-Pen, "big" display and primarily office /usability focus).
You're definitely in the wrong if you think buying the latest and greatest from a big company equals getting fast updates.
Surely Samsung could bust updates every 2 days to ensure People like you don't get on their nerves, but it's just that irrelevant to them and the vast majority.
Seriously, as long as you get your security patches, you're good to go IF you're one of those super concerned people.
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You do know most people bought the Note8 because it's actually a really convenient phone right and not just some show-off piece of glass & metal?
(With it's signature S-Pen, "big" display and primarily office /usability focus).
You're definitely in the wrong if you think buying the latest and greatest from a big company equals getting fast updates.
Surely Samsung could bust updates every 2 days to ensure People like you don't get on their nerves, but it's just that irrelevant to them and the vast majority.
Seriously, as long as you get your security patches, you're good to go IF you're one of those super concerned people.
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There’s no reason for the rollout to be as delayed as it is, But Samsung raped hard note 8 user, People running carrier-locked versions of the devices have to wait even longer for the update, and by that time, Google will already have revealed this year’s version of Android; Android P.
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There’s no reason for the rollout to be as delayed as it is, But Samsung raped hard note 8 user, People running carrier-locked versions of the devices have to wait even longer for the update, and by that time, Google will already have revealed this year’s version of Android; Android P.
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No reason you say to be delayed?
Well, fine by me. Please do go ahead and have some unfinished version of SE 9.0 installed on your Note8 with loads of (to be expected) FCs. At least you'll have the latest and greatest Android 8.x right? Lmfao, pathetic.
Let them refine the 8.x release for the Note8. Samsung hasn't "raped" anyone in terms of SW updates and refrain from using words like that, you can surely articulate yourself a bit more appropriate. We'll eventually get the update.
Lastly, I really don't understand you or anyone else who's crying over not having the latest OS version. I don't get it, but yeah please continue to cry and entertain us.
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No reason you say to be delayed?
Well, fine by me. Please do go ahead and have some unfinished version of SE 9.0 installed on your Note8 with loads of (to be expected) FCs. At least you'll have the latest and greatest Android 8.x right? Lmfao, pathetic.
Let them refine the 8.x release for the Note8. Samsung hasn't "raped" anyone in terms of SW updates and refrain from using words like that, you can surely articulate yourself a bit more appropriate. We'll eventually get the update.
Lastly, I really don't understand you or anyone else who's crying over not having the latest OS version. I don't get it, but yeah please continue to cry and entertain us.
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Loads of FCs? But.. Note8 SD internal releases of Oreo are kinda bugless, S8 has identical HW and no bugs, S7E got internal release which is like 99% stable (and that 1% can be easily fixed).
And You should know the difference between complaining about lack of updates and crying.
Complaining: "Note8 is the latest phone from Samsung so why don't we get latest updates? S7E has stable SEx 9.0. We should get it too!"
Crying: ":crying::crying::crying::crying:y no oreooo halp i hate my phone!!:crying::crying:"
If You can't tell the difference between these two then I don't know. Maybe leave XDA? XDA is supposed to be helpful and positive. We don't need any negativity here.
Last Oreo thread was closed because of negativity and disrespectful behaviour.
Also, notice that when S8 users complained about Oreo update being delayed. And said that they won't buy Samsung phones anymore. Samsung quickly made a new update.
And Note8 users don't complain about it, and if they do, they get harassed by people like You. So no one talks about Oreo and we have to wait because Samsung thinks that we don't need Oreo.
I as a Dev would love to get Oreo already because my Dev friends are making S9 ports for S7E and S8 and I can't make one cause Samsung doesn't give us Oreo.
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Loads of FCs? But.. Note8 SD internal releases of Oreo are kinda bugless, S8 has identical HW and no bugs, S7E got internal release which is like 99% stable (and that 1% can be easily fixed).
And You should know the difference between complaining about lack of updates and crying.
Complaining: "Note8 is the latest phone from Samsung so why don't we get latest updates? S7E has stable SEx 9.0. We should get it too!"
Crying: ":crying::crying::crying::crying:y no oreooo halp i hate my phone!!:crying::crying:"
If You can't tell the difference between these two then I don't know. Maybe leave XDA? XDA is supposed to be helpful and positive. We don't need any negativity here.
Last Oreo thread was closed because of negativity and disrespectful behaviour.
Also, notice that when S8 users complained about Oreo update being delayed. And said that they won't buy Samsung phones anymore. Samsung quickly made a new update.
And Note8 users don't complain about it, and if they do, they get harassed by people like You. So no one talks about Oreo and we have to wait because Samsung thinks that we don't need Oreo.
I as a Dev would love to get Oreo already because my Dev friends are making S9 ports for S7E and S8 and I can't make one cause Samsung doesn't give us Oreo.
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There's the thing my dude: It's not harassment nor negativity. Some xda sub-forums are slowly becoming more like reddit and that's annoying as hell. In all seriousness, you got your opinion and I got mine concerning users crying about newest OS version. (Just look at the OPs answers. Don't even need elaboration).
At some point it gets unbearable, I dare you to say "No it doesn't". Be real.
Trust me, I've been enjoying xda and it's "healthy" community because it's one amazing platform for people to connect and make Phone's software greater with team effort.
Now it's just people buying a phone, finding xda and expecting things to work from people who are doing stuff here for free & fun and in their free time. (e.g. The Xiaomi forums are cancerous or the Xposed nougat thread, when it was in the works)
I may not be a "known" Dev like you on xda, I do my own thing making smaller apps for friends and small local companies.
I got the patience and endurance to answer repetitive or similar questions over and over again, trust me.
If you feel this is negativity, I respect that, alright. I'm just being real.
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There's the thing my dude: It's not harassment nor negativity. Some xda sub-forums are slowly becoming more like reddit and that's annoying as hell. In all seriousness, you got your opinion and I got mine concerning users crying about newest OS version. (Just look at the OPs answers. Don't even need elaboration).
At some point it gets unbearable, I dare you to say "No it doesn't". Be real.
Trust me, I've been enjoying xda and it's "healthy" community because it's one amazing platform for people to connect and make Phone's software greater with team effort.
Now it's just people buying a phone, finding xda and expecting things to work from people who are doing stuff here for free & fun and in their free time. (e.g. The Xiaomi forums are cancerous or the Xposed nougat thread, when it was in the works)
I may not be a "known" Dev like you on xda, I do my own thing making smaller apps for friends and small local companies.
I got the patience and endurance to answer repetitive or similar questions over and over again, trust me.
If you feel this is negativity, I respect that, alright. I'm just being real.
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Wow. I didn't expect such professional answer lol. This response restored my faith in XDA a little. And I know that Xiaomi forums are slightly messy. I love threads where someone asks for a name of some theme and everyone responds with "thank you" , "beautiful theme link pls" .
Oh, and I'm not a known Dev on XDA . I'm just trying to make people happy with some "unique" roms. And it would be awesome if You'd share some of Your Dev work with us . Maybe some us would find it useful? .
And I know that we had a lot of Oreo threads already and they have identical questions and answers. Because we are just people not Samsung's employees so we can't tell someone when they will get Oreo. But I guess we can deal with these guys in a slightly more polite way and just tell them that we all are waiting for Oreo instead of saying that they are crying. People here live in various countries and have different cultures than we do. And some of them might find word "crying" offensive and disrespectful.
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Wow. I didn't expect such professional answer lol. This response restored my faith in XDA a little. And I know that Xiaomi forums are slightly messy. I love threads where someone asks for a name of some theme and everyone responds with "thank you" , "beautiful theme link pls" .
Oh, and I'm not a known Dev on XDA . I'm just trying to make people happy with some "unique" roms. And it would be awesome if You'd share some of Your Dev work with us . Maybe some us would find it useful? .
And I know that we had a lot of Oreo threads already and they have identical questions and answers. Because we are just people not Samsung's employees so we can't tell someone when they will get Oreo. But I guess we can deal with these guys in a slightly more polite way and just tell them that we all are waiting for Oreo instead of saying that they are crying.
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All good, glad we aligned back on one wavelength.
About the dev work:
Mostly is just freelancing, IT students gotta do what we can do, to make that paper. That's why I haven't contributed to xda so far in regards to releases.
Agreed on the bit with just telling them off instead of crying. But yeah, I do assume you can relate if something is getting penetratingly much lol.

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