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Anyone know where to get the TV out cable?
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I believe that's the cable as it has the extra USB connector to charge the phone while it's outputting the video.
I think this si it. YOu may want to email the seller and confirm tho.. http://www.amazon.com/OEM-HTC-Out-Cable-ACT100/dp/B002OOZDSE
I think that cable is mini usb not micro
Correct that is mini not micro, cable will not work. But what about the combination of http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002OOZDSE/ref=oss_product and
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Micro-Male-To-Mini-Female-Usb-Converter-Adapter-Cable-p-11269.html
I think $20 bucks is worth the try.
That won't work either... the adapters only push through the standard pins, not the special pins used by HTC for their TV out...
dammit
i need to get 6 of these cables....
anyone know where i can find out how to build my own?
LaughinBro said:
dammit
i need to get 6 of these cables....
anyone know where i can find out how to build my own?
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Wait, why on earth do you need six of them?
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Wait, why on earth do you need six of them?
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one for each TV in the house
Seriously I need this... with the skyfire browser this will be the most useful cable ever. No more hooking up the laptop to watch last week's shows that I missed.
I have heard from wirefly that verizon wireless will give it out in a month..
But what I dont like is that there is no dedicated output port in incredible .. (ie its a matter of time when your phone will get discharged ).. So this thing will be useful only for quick preview on TV(like done for camera).
they could make a cable with an inline micro female to charge simultaneously
do not buy the ACT100 cable it does NOT work with the incredible. the slot is like the same as the HTC HD so it will not fit.
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I have heard from wirefly that verizon wireless will give it out in a month..
But what I dont like is that there is no dedicated output port in incredible .. (ie its a matter of time when your phone will get discharged ).. So this thing will be useful only for quick preview on TV(like done for camera).
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According to this video HTC explained that the TV-Out cable has an extra Micro USB port on it that allows the device to be charged while having the TV-Out cable connected as well. Really hope we get this cable in stores soon as I'd love to try this feature!
Correct you will be able to charge as its plugged in.
I just really hope that the dev who made the app to sync a Wii remote with Android comes up with the HTC fix. It would be so nice to have all of these game emulators on your phone that you can play with a Wii remote on your TV or anywhere there is an RCA connect.
Off-topic: There is a bluetooth controller that supposedly works with HTC Sense 2.1 devices I am considering purchasing, the MSI BGP100. I dont much care for it, but it supposedly works according to the dev website. It uses the app Gamepro on the market. Id much rather use the Zmote, but Ill probably just wait for Wiimote support on the Incredible.
On-topic: VZW warehouses dont even have them in stock. As in, they are still awaiting mass-production apparently. Fullfilment Inventory= 0. A few HTC events have had the cable being demoed but not for purchase. Good god how I long for one! Like many of you I have also scoured the interwebs for one with no success. Outside of bumping into a htc rep, looks like we might just have to hurry up and wait fellas.
Yea, just as everyone else i want one bad!!
It is not listed on their parts site yet either. Even though a lot of stuff there is back ordered.
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http: //shop.htcpedia.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=875
^--yes, that's it, but it is not in production yet as far as we know.
Why hasn't anyone produced a cheaper alternative yet? I know it's not a common connector, but the phone has been out for a long time now. Any ideas? Thanks.
Do I really have to pay £20+ for a USB cable?
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If you want one YES
I haven't found any third party ones yet
lol..well said.
i hate that phones/laptops use proprietary ****...
but i guess that's where the money is so its stupid not to from a business standpoint.
thats why I always like nokia and htc,,
they would make a top shelf unbranded universal device.
no bs chargers, or batteries, or no mem slot, internal battery etc...
they give you a completely unbranded, un tainted device that actuall does everything...
not the almost everything that these cell phone companies do..
they cant give you everything in one phone because then you will never buy the new one they are selling.
so all that considered the dell streak starts to look pretty damn good...
atleast until the HD3 is released.
I would never have bought this if my HD2 didnt suffer touch screen death.
had dual boot super tech wm 6.5.5 touch rom with froyo 2.2 bluetopia rolling.
It was best of both worlds..
made my nokia n97 seem like a toy.
now the Dell streak has done that even with the HD2..
Extremely impressed!
They call it a tablet but its really a giant cell phone.
they should get Brock Lesnar to endorce it...
it would look very proportional i bet..
so if any marketing vp's are reading this.. there you go...
And,...Brock if you're reading hook me up with some UFC tickets..lol
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If you want one YES
I haven't found any third party ones yet
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lol..well said.
i hate that phones/laptops use proprietary ****...
but i guess that's where the money is so its stupid not to from a business standpoint.
thats why I always like nokia and htc,,
they would make a top shelf unbranded universal device.
no bs chargers, or batteries, or no mem slot, internal battery etc...
they give you a completely unbranded, un tainted device that actuall does everything...
not the almost everything that these cell phone companies do..
they cant give you everything in one phone because then you will never buy the new one they are selling.
so all that considered the dell streak starts to look pretty damn good...
atleast until the HD3 is released.
I would never have bought this if my HD2 didnt suffer touch screen death.
had dual boot super tech wm 6.5.5 touch rom with froyo 2.2 bluetopia rolling.
It was best of both worlds..
made my nokia n97 seem like a toy.
now the Dell streak has done that even with the HD2..
Extremely impressed!
They call it a tablet but its really a giant cell phone.
they should get Brock Lesnar to endorce it...
it would look very proportional i bet..
so if any marketing vp's are reading this.. there you go...
And,...Brock if you're reading hook me up with some UFC tickets..lol
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Not that HTC is any better with their USB headphones on some models like my Touch Pro2! And PDMI is not proprietary, but Dell jumped the gun. They should all just have stayed with Mini USB.
bigfoots1 said:
lol..well said.
i hate that phones/laptops use proprietary ****...
but i guess that's where the money is so its stupid not to from a business standpoint.
thats why I always like nokia and htc,,
they would make a top shelf unbranded universal device.
no bs chargers, or batteries, or no mem slot, internal battery etc...
they give you a completely unbranded, un tainted device that actuall does everything...
not the almost everything that these cell phone companies do..
they cant give you everything in one phone because then you will never buy the new one they are selling.
so all that considered the dell streak starts to look pretty damn good...
atleast until the HD3 is released.
I would never have bought this if my HD2 didnt suffer touch screen death.
had dual boot super tech wm 6.5.5 touch rom with froyo 2.2 bluetopia rolling.
It was best of both worlds..
made my nokia n97 seem like a toy.
now the Dell streak has done that even with the HD2..
Extremely impressed!
They call it a tablet but its really a giant cell phone.
they should get Brock Lesnar to endorce it...
it would look very proportional i bet..
so if any marketing vp's are reading this.. there you go...
And,...Brock if you're reading hook me up with some UFC tickets..lol
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Due to the formatting that post was ridiculously hard to read as it just didn't flow.
I agree that paying £20+ for what is supposedly an open standard plug (PDMI) is a bit excessive however it's a sellers market when people are early adopters. In time we will find that the plugs will become available cheaper cables will be produced, I believe members on XDA-Developers have already sussed out the pin-out for the cable, they just need the plugs.
I have been trying to source some however as of yet haven't had any luck, second I find some I'll be making cables like they're going out of fashion.
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Not that HTC is any better with their USB headphones on some models like my Touch Pro2! And PDMI is not proprietary, but Dell jumped the gun. They should all just have stayed with Mini USB.
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If I remember correctly you can get an adapter for that though can't you?
yes, you'll havbe to excuse the laco of commas and qoutes..
it would of helped..your right.
i type for speed not quality most times
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Due to the formatting that post was ridiculously hard to read as it just didn't flow.
I agree that paying £20+ for what is supposedly an open standard plug (PDMI) is a bit excessive however it's a sellers market when people are early adopters. In time we will find that the plugs will become available cheaper cables will be produced, I believe members on XDA-Developers have already sussed out the pin-out for the cable, they just need the plugs.
I have been trying to source some however as of yet haven't had any luck, second I find some I'll be making cables like they're going out of fashion.
If I remember correctly you can get an adapter for that though can't you?
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If I remember correctly you can get an adapter for that though can't you?
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You can get an adapter for the USB headset, but the one that works with a headset with microphone is quite expensive. Besides, it is a real pain, carrying it around, trying not to lose it, etc. And the strange thing about the Touch Pro2 is that sound through the speakers is much better than through headphones.
Really? Not if you steal one.... Lol
Second... Shouldn't that have been a question you asked yourself before you bought a $400 proprietary device?
Swyped from my *Epic*
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Really? Not if you steal one.... Lol
Second... Shouldn't that have been a question you asked yourself before you bought a $400 proprietary device?
Swyped from my *Epic*
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Obviously I was aware of the cable before I bought the device, it's not enough to stop me buying it, just annoying.
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Obviously I was aware of the cable before I bought the device, it's not enough to stop me buying it, just annoying.
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Exactly, the Touch Pro2 has the best hardware keyboard around and music wasn't my first priority. So I got it and still use it as a business phone. Every device has some drawbacks, as mentioned by others, if they made them almost perfect, why would you think of upgrading early?
keep an eye out for the samsung galaxy tab aswell it uses pdmi connector so should work on the streak, you can also get tv out cable
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I just read on mydellmini site someone has both the Streak &the Galaxy Tab. He states that no they do not work.
The question now is which is standard pdmi, Galaxy Tab or Dell Streak or are neither ?
another member here reported that he ordered this car charger (actually for an iPad) and that it DOES work. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.45227
I ordered one today
Muscleshop said:
another member here reported that he ordered this car charger (actually for an iPad) and that it DOES work. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.45227
Just take the cord and use it
I ordered one today, along with an iPad dock (hoping it works)...I will update this post as needed
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Seems unlikely that it would work? Keep us posted.
Muscleshop said:
another member here reported that he ordered this car charger (actually for an iPad) and that it DOES work. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.45227
Just take the cord and use it
I ordered one today, along with an iPad dock (hoping it works)...I will update this post as needed
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The charger probably works, the cable it's a no no unless you change your streak port to fit an ibrick plug.
Hope he doesn't get flooded with requests...
http://forum.pocketables.net/showthread.php?p=63112
Looks like someone may have found an alt source for cables. They expect a sample from their supplier next week and may be making a bulk order shortly there after - last I heard it was 3 cables, AC adaptor, car adaptor = $30.
Muscleshop said:
another member here reported that he ordered this car charger (actually for an iPad) and that it DOES work. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.45227
Just take the cord and use it
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No - that is NOT what I reported.
That USB charger does work with the Streak - but you need to use the Streak's USB cable to connect it.
The iPad has a completely different USB cable to the Streak ! The cord that comes with the car charger is to fit the iPad, not the Streak - so you can just throw it in the bin.
http://m.wikitree.co.kr/mobile_view.php?ar_id=17134&u_id=148&part=&search=
The picture showing the Dell Strea sync cable on the website linked above seems to indicate in its caption that the same cable could be used for a Zune HD (I say seems as I don't read Korean).
Would someone be able to verify that a Zune HD uses PDMI (and the same 30-pin connector) and so possibly ZUne cables may be an alternative?
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http://m.wikitree.co.kr/mobile_view.php?ar_id=17134&u_id=148&part=&search=
The picture showing the Dell Strea sync cable on the website linked above seems to indicate in its caption that the same cable could be used for a Zune HD (I say seems as I don't read Korean).
Would someone be able to verify that a Zune HD uses PDMI (and the same 30-pin connector) and so possibly ZUne cables may be an alternative?
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Zune HD is 24 pin and streak is 30 pin
http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Microsoft_Zune
Thanks to meralias from irc
I posted a solution here without having to look for new cables or sodering usb chargers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10634108&highlight=car+charger#post10634108
Basically, it seems that firmware dictated how the usb cable charged. Rooted my 1.6, and flashed up to Stock 2.2 released by Dell for its unlocked units. I'm unsure if the earlier versions (2.1) would work too. Anyhow, no longer had any problems and could charge in my car just fine without overheating. Make sure whatever usb car charger you get, that the port has at least 1A of juice coming out. Good luck!
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No - that is NOT what I reported.
That USB charger does work with the Streak - but you need to use the Streak's USB cable to connect it.
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Whoops. Extremely sorry about my mis-read guys/gals.
Guys, I'm not a fan of lawsuits, but I think B&N knows for sure that their cables sucks, and they are doing nothing to fix it.
Changing the cables is not a real solution, cause after 12 months, a cable would probably break, and B&N would ask 15 dollars for a replacement.
So, I need a service agreement that we get at purchase of the NOOK COLOR/TOUCH, and when one purchases a cable/charger alone.
By the way, what do people think of a Class Action Suit on this?
Anyone?
I feel like b&n has treated me pretty well in regards to the cable. Replaced three at no charge. Plus the nook charges faster than any other mobile device I've ever had, with a pretty stout battery life.
And, in my opinion, class action suits are generally just lawyer-driven cash grabs. The lawyer sees an opportunity to file a suit, gathers up some likely plaintiffs and files. The company being sued either settles or it goes to court for a couple years. At the end of the day, the lawyers get their 30% and the people they represent end up with a check for $2.75 each.
I guess that's an okay return if all they want is your signature, but I would hate to see the advances b&n was attempting be discouraged in the future just so I could get a free McFlurry.
The cable isn't perfect, it breaks way too easily. They have handled that known problem satisfactorily to my mind.
Yeah, I know that CAS are mostly a lawyers thing.
But with this one, I want B&N to change their cables design/manufacturing.
No matter how many they change, as soon as it is broken, you are left with a powerless nook.
And there would be a moment where your 12 months warranty would expire, and you would have no more option than buy a new one, at a ridiculous high price.
It is a shame that they did not have a better design... I bought my nook color in Feb 11. The cable plastic split at the led "n" housing junction within a month. They sent a replacement that WAS better, but it too split, this time at the wall charger USB junction. Of course, now my warranty is up. My solution is not pretty, but it works - electrical tape from the hard plastic housing down the cable from both ends, layered enough to support the split cables. It's been two months now, and it works just fine...
Personally, I'm not sure this issue rises to the level of legal redress. They were pretty good about the initial replacement, and a warranty is term defined for a reason. The second cable lasted much longer than the first generation cable I received with the nook. I can only imagine that the nook tablet cable is better than the second generation cable I received as a replacement. And so it goes... my 1/2 cent worth.
Well, if you check B&N comments of buyers, it MUST be obvious to them they need to fix it.
And they are on their 3rd gen cables, and still the same sh*t.
This is the type of quality you can accept on a 5 bucks cable, not on a 15(!!!) dollars cable:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-color-nook-tablet-charging-cable-in-asphalt/23055743
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/noo...-nook-simple-touch/23055765?ean=9781616873981
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/car-charging-kit/20093219
Just look at the reviews.
My God man... Geez it uses a standard Micro B usb cable
dub ya dub ya dub ya . cellphoneshop.net/usbdacaforsa95.html?CAWELAID=1316950185&gclid=COfup43S3a8CFaVdTAodl2guAQ
this one wont break because it doesn't have the pretty little led "N" on it. I guess the $2.75 from the lawsuit would pay for one of these, but wouldnt you die a little inside?
No. A standard USB cable would do a slow charge of a nook color.
You need a special cable, sold only, as far as i know, by B&N.
This has been documented befor on XDA.
And even if it was a simple cable, selling a defective by design is not something nice.
And again, I do not want money, I want B&N to improve their cable.
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No. A standard USB cable would do a slow charge of a nook color.
You need a special cable, sold only, as far as i know, by B&N.
This has been documented befor on XDA.
And even if it was a simple cable, selling a defective by design is not something nice.
And again, I do not want money, I want B&N to improve their cable.
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"slow charge" is very different from "left with a powerless nook". I charge mine fairly often overnight with a standard cable and it works fine just slower. I don't like the quality issues or the lack of improvement either, but I don't think you're helping your argument along by exaggerating.
I use my hp touchpads charger cable and the charge time difference is negligible.
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"slow charge" is very different from "left with a powerless nook". I charge mine fairly often overnight with a standard cable and it works fine just slower. I don't like the quality issues or the lack of improvement either, but I don't think you're helping your argument along by exaggerating.
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It was just a way of expressing that you can be without power at any moment.
With such a terrible constructed cable, you need to have two on your bag.
But the main point is simpler and more obvious.
B&N is selling a defective by design product at a very expensive price, for at least two years, they known it, and they have done nothing to fix it.
If you feel B&N is doing fine, by selling you an overpriced, defective by design accesory, great, you do not need to be part of the CAS.
The cable sucks (very poor design) and class action also sucks. By the time it goes through they probably will have a redesign or a second party will be providing them.
I think it is a valid point that the sucky cable could leave you without power at any given time. Mine broke while traveling. The problem is that its fine until it isn't. It seems not to be a matter of if but when.
I do agree with yoi, I'm not a fan of any trial/suit either, but I also believe they need to learn.
They moved from Nook Color to Nook Table, and the same shi*y cable!
Well TBH, If I had this much grief from B&N I would just sell the NC and go for a kindle fire. I hear the KF's have superior durability.
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If you feel B&N is doing fine, by selling you an overpriced, defective by design accesory
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I haven't said anything of the sort so please don't twist things like that. I don't like it either
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I haven't said anything of the sort so please don't twist things like that. I don't like it either
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Sorry if I misunderstand you, but it sounded like you where defending them.
Anyway, I said if, and was not only directed to you, but also in general.
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Well TBH, If I had this much grief from B&N I would just sell the NC and go for a kindle fire. I hear the KF's have superior durability.
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I don't know about that. This is just about the usb cable not the device. My little Nook is pretty tough including surviving being dropped on concrete and an African Safari.
J515OP said:
I don't know about that. This is just about the usb cable not the device. My little Nook is pretty tough including surviving being dropped on concrete and an African Safari.
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Same here. The ONLY problem is the cable.
oh stop already. CAS only benefit lawyers. if you're so upset go to small claims court. i'm sure you'll either win the price of a cable, or if B&N's law firm decides to show up, they'll offer you a free cable in settlement. HAVE FUN!!!
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I don't know about that. This is just about the usb cable not the device. My little Nook is pretty tough including surviving being dropped on concrete and an African Safari.
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Oh I agree 100% I was just stating that if I hated a company that much, I would just switch over to the competitor. But believe me, I love my NC and have had no problems whatsoever from B&N
Hmmm, seriously what have you guys been doing with the stock cable??? Abuse it?
I have my refurbished NOOK over a year and my cable is not only working just fine but still look like new.
What did you guys do with it? Fishing? Bow-tying? Neck-hanging?
As IBOLT seems to be having a number of growing pains with the electronics for their new dock, I wonder if what problems we will see with their long delayed USB/Audio cable if they are unable to get their MHL cables to work outside of their Sales Office.
I didn't try mine yet. Will see if it works and post here
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I didn't try mine yet. Will see if it works and post here
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You would be a pioneer then and the first to make it work.
It is strange that it doesn't work. You would think it would have been tested before sending them out. Weird.
www.ibolt.co/products/mhl
I think their mhl adapter is only a 5 pin not an 11 pin because I don't see the gs3 or gn2 on their list of working devices.
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www.ibolt.co/products/mhl
I think their mhl adapter is only a 5 pin not an 11 pin because I don't see the gs3 or gn2 on their list of working devices.
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could be but we have tried using the adapter they sent and followed the picture they posted but it still does not work. My guess is they never tested it on a USA GN2 as their photo shows a GS3 and we all assumed that it would work on the GN2.
emailed them this morning. Wonder what they are going to do. It would be nice to have a working MHL for the note 2, but then again, it was free so i can't complain too much! Besides, the car dock is great!
I agree Jon but it has to make you wonder if your hopes of a working USB/Audio cable will go up in smoke if they did not even properly test the MHL cables on the GN2 before they were sent out. And although they were free, they would have been better served to keep them in Utah if they were not going to work.
Free MHL cable does not work with GN2
Hi there,
I can also confirm that the free MHL cable that came with the car dock does not work with Galaxy Note 2. I tried different HDMI cables but no luck. After connecting the charger to the microUSB port of the cable the phone starts charging but no picture on the TV.
Mine also doesn't work. Tried different combos of chargers, usb cables, hdmi cables, connecting to tv and receiver.
Has anyone been successful using this MHL to HDMI adapter?
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Has anyone been successful using this MHL to HDMI adapter?
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It apparently works if you are in the IBOLT office using a GS3 but I am not aware of ANYONE including the IBOLT Engineers that have made it work with the GN2. Does not give me much faith that we will ever see a working USB/Audio cable.
Hopefully I will ger a response from ny email this week. So far all is quiet.
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Me too. Several people have bought USB Audio cables with a specific resistor pack and made them work. It looks like they all needed to load a different kernel. I am convinced there is a technical issue that requires a Samsung software mod.
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It apparently works if you are in the IBOLT office using a GS3 but I am not aware of ANYONE including the IBOLT Engineers that have made it work with the GN2. Does not give me much faith that we will ever see a working USB/Audio cable.
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Its cool, you just gotta drive your car to the iBOLT parking lot where the dock cable will then work. It's large enough for two cars to do figure 8's at the same time
Sent from my GIANT internet thingy.
It wasn't free, I count it as costing $5 since Prime wasn't turned on as promised.
Please post to this thread when anyone hears back from iBolt tech support.
iBOLT 11 Pin MHL Adapter for Samsung devices
Hello XDA Community! This is my first of probably many posts as we here at iBOLT try to keep information coming. First of all, you have to love technology. iBOLT, as most of you know, sometimes get caught in a situation where we produce a product that works with one release of a phone and may not with another release. For instance, the iBOLT MHL adapter to convert the Samsung 11 pin microUSB output for MHL to the 5 pin standard for MHL works for all International devices (S III & Note II) but doesn't for North American devices. When we tested and produced the adapter, it worked great. Now that we have sent out hundreds to our loyal iBOLT family, we are caught up in what most of us would call - Murphy's Law - we tried to do a good thing and send out a free gift to help compensate for the delay in shipping the xProDock for Samsung and it turns out not to work. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and hope that you will once again - HAVE PATIENCE as our engineers try to understand what the differences are between the International and North American Samsung devices. I'm sure that we will find a solution and we will do our best to keep you informed. Wow - first post and very long. I hope this helps answer some of the questions.......we will be sending out replacement adapters when they are available. Sorry for the long post......
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Me too. Several people have bought USB Audio cables with a specific resistor pack and made them work. It looks like they all needed to load a different kernel. I am convinced there is a technical issue that requires a Samsung software mod.
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I'm still trying to figure out what the correct resister resistance it to get otg and charging to work correctly. So far afaik no one has gotten it to work. We need a brave soul to pull apart the smart dock to see what it has.
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Hello XDA Community! This is my first of probably many posts as we here at iBOLT try to keep information coming. First of all, you have to love technology. iBOLT, as most of you know, sometimes get caught in a situation where we produce a product that works with one release of a phone and may not with another release. For instance, the iBOLT MHL adapter to convert the Samsung 11 pin microUSB output for MHL to the 5 pin standard for MHL works for all International devices (S III & Note II) but doesn't for North American devices. When we tested and produced the adapter, it worked great. Now that we have sent out hundreds to our loyal iBOLT family, we are caught up in what most of us would call - Murphy's Law - we tried to do a good thing and send out a free gift to help compensate for the delay in shipping the xProDock for Samsung and it turns out not to work. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and hope that you will once again - HAVE PATIENCE as our engineers try to understand what the differences are between the International and North American Samsung devices. I'm sure that we will find a solution and we will do our best to keep you informed. Wow - first post and very long. I hope this helps answer some of the questions.......we will be sending out replacement adapters when they are available. Sorry for the long post......
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First...Thank You! I was pretty sure that was the case and know it can be a bit embarrassing to have your customers find issues like this. (Learned that lesson more than once myself) Clearly checking this will be on your list of things to do before releasing the USB/Audio cable.
Today we’re looking at the Zip Mini Touch-n-go by The Joy Factory. Here's a link to the review with all links to buy product and accessories
The Zip Mini is a charging station that uses magnetic “zip tail” plugs to inductively charge your devices without bulky cases or any modification to your phone or tablet. Many have wanted the functionality of Apple's Magsafe laptop charging magnetic adapter in Android tablets and smartphones for years. For whatever reason though, nobody has been brave enough/smart enough to make the jump yet. Is the Zip Mini the answer to our prayers? Read on...
Click here to see a SUPER FUN video slideshow of the Zip Mini Touch-n-go
Main advantage: mimics wireless charging's ease without modification, outputs 2.1amps to charge a tablet or galaxy note 2, relatively cheap
Main concern: can't charge other device's if charging a tablet, short cord length, can disconnect at times
Unique features: magnetic charging attaches without effort and just works
We've reached a point with smartphone's where wants become reality everyday. Do you want to talk to your phone and tell it to remind you to meet Joey for coffee on Tuesday? Okay. Do you want to have your phone unlock your front door without even removing it from your pocket? Sure thing. Do you want your phone to just be charged without any effort from you? Not so fast buddy!
The promise of true wireless charging is still struggling to be. Companies fight silently in a cold war deciding who will be the true wireless charging standard for years to come. Of course Apple will have to be different and even after a standard is declared. They'll come out with AppleCharge wireless accessories that they'll slightly change every six months. The wanting masses will happily pay $45 a pop for a special AppleCharge to AppleCharge S adapter for each and everyone of their accessories. The Android world has it's own version of Apple's dirty tricks in the form of Carriers vs. manufacturers. Verizon will do things like intentionally disable wireless charging on the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 so that they can sell more of their DROID branded phones that have Qi wireless built in. The point is, you're a bit out of luck at this point. Though there are working versions of wireless power, there will be so many changes coming up that most every purchase you make will be a paperweight within a couple of years. How can you get some of the functionality of wireless charging without opting in to the losing endeavor of Apple vs. Everyone vs. your wallet? The Zip Mini is a start.
The Zip Mini is a small disk a little bigger than a hockey puck. The top shows a circular indicator light and four “dimples” with tiny metal contact points. These each accept a magnetic power disk on a 2” cable that then connects to your micro or mini usb device as well as any apple product. A single micro usb input around back accepts a power adapter that will supply enough juice to charge up to 4 devices. The important distinction though is “UP TO.” The UP TO goes out the window if you're charging an iPad or other tablet that draws 2.1amps of power. Most smartphones will allow you to charge two at once. Apple iPod’s and other low energy devices can utilize the full four charging ports at once but don't count on that every time.
If you're careful about your devices, this is a great system. If you know what will work and what won't after careful trial and error, this can be a reliable charging option. If you don't have the patience to adapt yourself to this way of charging, then move on instead of bad mouthing something you didn't give a real chance to. The charging cables, called “zip tails” are very short, which is a double edged sword. Short enough to possibly leave them attached to your phone throughout the day (but that probably isn't practical because they'd get snagged and break pretty quickly) but too short to use your phone while it's charging without disconnecting the power. The magnets hold well enough but I wouldn't mind a little more strength. I see an ideal use for the zip mini that unfortunately joy factory hasn't planned for, wall mounting. For this to have the best chance to succeed, neither device can move or else you'll risk disconnecting the cable without knowing it and reaching for a dead phone in the morning. Since Joy Factory didn't include mounting holes on the bottom, I plan to use Velcro to attach the disk to the wall near a wall mounted cradle. With the proper spacing and careful mounting of both the Zip mini and my wall cradle I'll have the zip as it should work. All I will need to do is place the phone in the cradle and the magnet will automatically find the charger. No chance of dislodging overnight and truly simple usage from day to day.
I only wish that the charging ports were a little more sunken in or molded to allow the charging disks to only connect in one way. As it stands, the magnets find the charger about 90% of the time. The other times it can be slightly off-centered or partially connected which means no juice. No juice means no fun.
Thank you again to The Joy Factory for supplying their product for review.
Alternatives: None that I've seen that function the same
What's in the box: carrying pouch, Zip Mini charging disk, power adapter, micro usb and apple 30 pin “zip tails”, Lightning to micro USB adapter for iPhone 5
How much:
Manufacturer - $49.95
Amazon - $36.99
Google pricing
Additional Zip Tails – depends on tip. Anywhere from $10.99 to $15.99
Is it worth buying: If you have the patience to learn how to approach this it can be a very convenient and usable charging solution.
If you haven’t already, click here to see a video slideshow of the Zip Mini Touch N Go
ENJOY YOUR GADGETS!
I guess I just don't understand this product, what's is the point?
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LittleRedDot said:
I guess I just don't understand this product, what's is the point?
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It has to be a joke this literally doors nothing.
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It has to be a joke this literally doors nothing.
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Yeh, I don't see the point either. Its as though they didn't know if they should go wireless or cabled, so instead they went half and half.
I wrote up 2 nice counter reviews but it would let me post them, just said I didn't have authorization to post. Strange, almost as strange as this product.
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Doesn't make much sense for a phone to be sure, but I've actually started using it with a couple of tablets that I keep around the house. Don't mind having the cable attached always because they stay in the house for gentle use. Nice to be able to just hover over and more often than not it catches in the right spot and charges faithfully. Almost kind of not quite wireless
snapz54 said:
Doesn't make much sense for a phone to be sure, but I've actually started using it with a couple of tablets that I keep around the house. Don't mind having the cable attached always because they stay in the house for gentle use. Nice to be able to just hover over and more often than not it catches in the right spot and charges faithfully. Almost kind of not quite wireless
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You're not seriously saying that this is better or easier that just plugging the phone/tablet into the wall? And this isn't almost kind of not wireless anything, it Is Wired, period. The only advantage I can see is if you had just lost your eyesight and had not learned how to feel a plug into a socket, it would be nice to be able to "zip" the magnetic wire to the charger. But for anyone who can see this is an expensive extra step.
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You're not seriously saying that this is better or easier that just plugging the phone/tablet into the wall? And this isn't almost kind of not wireless anything, it Is Wired, period. The only advantage I can see is if you had just lost your eyesight and had not learned how to feel a plug into a socket, it would be nice to be able to "zip" the magnetic wire to the charger. But for anyone who can see this is an expensive extra step.
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The benefit is less wear and tear on the micro USB slot. That is the main reason that I want wireless charging to start. Constant plugging and unplugging and manufacturers design the micro USB slot to fail because most will be bullied at the store and just upgrade.
Again, I'm not saying it's for everyone, the decreased wear and tear is worth it in my eyes. A failed micro USB slot killed my HP touchpad, had I been using this device, that might have been prevented or at the very least delayed.
Of course, if I had my druthers Verizon wouldn't be a group of evil so and so's that intentionally covered up functioning wireless charging hardware in their version of the Note 2. They did do that though, so we continue to search for something that might help to fill the void without having to modify the phone and void warranty replacements.
That's the silliest thing I've heard. You still have to plug this zip thingy into your usb. Are you telling me that you walk around all day with this zip thing hanging off your phone? And for the price of this system I would rather take the chance that my usb fails and have the phone replaced under warranty, and that's assuming your usb would even fail and from what I've been reading sammy sorted out this issue with the note 2.
I know it sucks that Verizon took away hassle free wireless charging, but you can't honestly tell us that this is a step in the right direction?
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That's the silliest thing I've heard. You still have to plug this zip thingy into your usb. Are you telling me that you walk around all day with this zip thing hanging off your phone? And for the price of this system I would rather take the chance that my usb fails and have the phone replaced under warranty, and that's assuming your usb would even fail and from what I've been reading sammy sorted out this issue with the note 2.
I know it sucks that Verizon took away hassle free wireless charging, but you can't honestly tell us that this is a step in the right direction?
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I don't think you're actually reading what I'm writing. I said it's impractical for phones. Makes sense for my tablets that I keep around the house. HP touchpad I mentioned is specifically no longer being made which means no replacement.
I don't work for this company though, I feel we're spending too much time talking about the product. Take it or leave it. Let's get on with our lives.
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I don't think you're actually reading what I'm writing. I said it's impractical for phones. Makes sense for my tabletsI keep around thoe house. HP touchpad I mentioned is specifically no longer being made which means no replacement.
I don't work for this company though, I feel we're spending too much time talking about the product. Take it or leave it. Let's get on with our lives.
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If it's impractical for phones (I agree), why are you posting it in a phone thread? Kind of a contradiction, don't you think? And for the record, that was the most annoying video slideshow I've ever seen because of the terrible music. Zippity do dah? Really....
PS: If you post a long review thread about a product, the whole point is to talk about it. What else would you be talking about? I'm sorry, but you really make no sense, much like what this thread is doing in the Note 2 section (because the Note 2 is a phone).
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The benefit is less wear and tear on the micro USB slot. That is the main reason that I want wireless charging to start. Constant plugging and unplugging and manufacturers design the micro USB slot to fail because most will be bullied at the store and just upgrade.
Again, I'm not saying it's for everyone, the decreased wear and tear is worth it in my eyes. A failed micro USB slot killed my HP touchpad, had I been using this device, that might have been prevented or at the very least delayed.
Of course, if I had my druthers Verizon wouldn't be a group of evil so and so's that intentionally covered up functioning wireless charging hardware in their version of the Note 2. They did do that though, so we continue to search for something that might help to fill the void without having to modify the phone and void warranty replacements.
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I mean there's a lot bull in this post other people have pointed out, but I will mention if you're that anal about the condition of your micro usb port we have replaceable batteries. I can count on my hands the number of times I actually plugged this phone in.
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snapz54 said:
I don't think you're actually reading what I'm writing. I said it's impractical for phones. Makes sense for my tablets that I keep around the house. HP touchpad I mentioned is specifically no longer being made which means no replacement.
I don't work for this company though, I feel we're spending too much time talking about the product. Take it or leave it. Let's get on with our lives.
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Sorry Phil, but you asked for it I just visited your tech review column in Examiner from your link, and from one reviewer (you can check out all my work from the last 5-6 months in my signature link) to another - the difference of posting in online newspaper/magazine versus a forum with 5+ million subscribers is that you get an instant feedback and opinions of the users. People don't just read a column, but take every post as a thread to open a discussion, to express their opinion, and to "talk about the product". Don't take it personally. You did make a valid point of how you used it in your case with HP tablet. For sure it fails with Note 2 or any other smart phone, and perhaps your review has a place in here to stir people with Note 2 away from this product
I do have to agree about being upset with VZW handicapping N2 by eliminating wireless charging, and I was happy they brought it back in S4 (in my S4 review I specifically pointed that out).
Also, as a comment about slideshow. I noticed you do that with every review, which is probably easier than actual YT video. I guess it's just your signature style, just like I take a ton of pictures with every review I do. I post a detailed write-ups and embed a lot of pictures. Some people hate reading and just need cliff notes with a few bullet points, others skip straight to the pictures. Whatever their preference, I respect that and try to make everyone happy As part of instant feedback to your review people are not digging it because they expect a glorious video with lots of talking and hands on test. Again, don't take it in defensive way, that's just a feedback from our readers. Oh, and I'm sure Opasha meant in his comment that your music was "too happy" for his taste
I think all this feedback is great, and if I were you I would forward this link directly to a company. That's what I do with all my reviews. Vendors need to know what real customers think about their product. Otherwise they will never improve.
@vectron: He should change the annoying music to something really simple or at least not as annoying, and people will take his slideshow more seriously. I mean that on a productive/constructive level. I made no comments on his review skills or the pictures. Those are all excellent. He just needs to kind of get a clue or wake up a little if he wants to move forward with his life as he so put it.
also, to add to why the music is actually annoying, look at the comment in his other thread. truthfully, no one, especially any company/vendor will take him seriously because of it:
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Man, please take this as useful constructive advice. Ditch that music that seems to be your trademark.
It's awful and annoying. 10 seconds in on both of your videos and I'm rushing to close the window.
The product isn't getting seen if I'm closing the window because of the 'cute' music.
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Not to mention the Web page, review write up, and video say the exact same things in the exact same way. I watched the video thinking I would gain more insight into the product only to have been hit in the face with the exact same words as I had already read twice.
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I would never buy this for my Note 2, but I might CONSIDER it for my Asus Infinity. Only way I'd by this for my Infinity though is if it was around $20-25, and I wouldn't pay a penny more! Even with a $20 price tag, I honestly still don't believe I would purchase one. I'm not doubting that your TouchPad's charging port failed, but in my 15 years of owning mobile phones I've never had a charging port fail in any way. With that in mind, I really don't see why I'd ever purchase one of these.....
Anyway, thanks for sharing this product with the community. Helps us all decide if we do or do not like/want a product.
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I appreciate your words Vectron.
For you and everyone else, rather than choose what I think you will and won't like, I'd rather just be able to post anything up here as long as it is compatible with the Note 2. That way you can have a reference point in your head. I have no stake in your love of the product. If you want to say it's a terrible product, I applaud your personal take on it. I just want to present information without telling you what to like and dislike. If it fits your need than I'm happy I could show you a little closer look then you might of seen otherwise. If it's not for you, you can just let it be buried on the site and I'll post another review soon of a product that hopefully suits you more fully. I really am just trying to offer information and sometimes being able to now that this product isn't for you is a useful thing to know.
Regarding the same info posted, I figure some people will look here, some on the site, etc. I post the info here for those that want to just read and go. I post the link to the video for those that want to see the pictures and be done with it. I post the link to the site because I've already hyperlinked all of the necessary pages and info within that and it's a pain to redo it on the forum as well when the work was already done there. My hope is that you'll decide which one suits you best and then use that approach from now on. If the forum post is enough than use just that please.
I appreciate all of the constructive criticism. It's nice of you all to take the time out of your day to help me do a better job of showing you these products. I read and consider everything that you say.
The music in the videos... I'll repost what I said in the other thread.
The opening with the choir type voices is from an everclear song from the album so much for the afterglow.
Otherwise, for every product reviewed, I try to pick a song that has something to do with the product or it's name. It's just a fun little touch. So for the samDOCK review the song is hickory dickory DOCK, which is a child's nursery rhyme. It's just a goofy little added touch and you can always mute and just look at the pictures if the music is bugging you. I was this close to doing a death metal cover of hickory dickory dock but I couldn't find a clear enough recording.
This review was for the Zip Mini and I did the song "Zipity do dah" I always try to find a violin or guitar cover that is more subtle but for some it's difficult.
I reviewed a wireless charging dock the other day and I used the song, "I've got no strings" from Pinocchio. "I've got no strings, to hold me down" no wires, wireless charging, you get it. Just a fun little touch.
They aren't always kids songs.
LittleRedDot said:
I guess I just don't understand this product, what's is the point?
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I agree. Doesn't seem very useful or practical...