Hi,
Just recently got the Tilt and applied the Kaiser tweak from the sticky, in which I enabled the H icon. Here's my question tho,
Just this evening ATT turned up 3G on the towers near me, so when I first turned on my phone this evening-shock of all shocks- I see 3G-WOOHOO!!!
Getting great streaming from a basic microsoft media page at like 450Kbps-not complaining at all, it's awesome-from somewhere that Edge was the fastest for a looong time.
But now,after applying the tweak to enable the H icon, it is always H , not like it switches to 3G? I might be wrong,but isn't the H icon only supposed to show up when you are actually downloading data?
It's on all the time on my phone now,not complaining-have the "Unlimited" data pkg from ATT, just wondering?
Anyone care to help out a networkin noob?
Alemaker
D'OH- noob city - lol- it is working right-the big H is on all the time-only get the little h when it's dloading-umm, mods if ya wanna delete this thread-please do!! I can't figure out how-yet.
Alemaker
This might be a dumb question but I am new to this device. My tilt switches from 3g to E and back and forth and E is way slower. Is this supposed to happen or do I need to tweak it or something. Thanks.
This is supposed to happen. 3G is for the faster 3G cellular network, and E is for EDGE - the older, slower cellular network. The icon will change when you change from one coverage to the other.
I found sthg really weird in my unlocked ATT tilt today. I m curently using T-mobile. As many of you know that, you rarely get signal/reception in basement if you are using t-mobile. but today, when i went down to the basement, reception was gone w/ the E icon, then after a while, the E icon was changed to G, then the signal was detected and I could make phone call too. and the carrier on the screen is still T-mobile. Nothing changed except the E/G Icon. I then checked w/ my friend who is also using T-mobile(nokia phone), no reception at all. Does any one know what the difference between E and G icon on top of the screen is? will I be charged for some type of service fee or something if I make calls or use the Tmobile web w/ the [G] icon? please tell me if you guys know anything about it.
thanks in advance...
The "E" is picking up an edge reception, i get it in the UK sometimes because i have a crappy t-mobile signal in my house. When its displayed i cant make phonecalls/txts etc so might be picking up another carriers signal because i dont think t-mob uses edge here. The "G" is gprs just the basic slow phones signal.
G is when GPRS is available, E is when EDGE is available. No extra charge. This could have been easily answered by looking in the manual.......page 29
I guess this may be different for T-Mobile (and could possibly vary on the ROM you're using) but the E on my device is for EDGE service, and G is for 3G service. 3G, obviously, is the better of the two. But I'm on AT&T of course...
Poetique said:
I guess this may be different for T-Mobile (and could possibly vary on the ROM you're using) but the E on my device is for EDGE service, and G is for 3G service. 3G, obviously, is the better of the two. But I'm on AT&T of course...
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I don't think T-mobile has 3G here in NY.
Thanks for all the replies above
so, the signal of GPRS is stronger than the EDGE? if yes, then we are all able to get reception even if in basement. No need to get verizon anymore... lol
but why can't my friends' phones picked up any GPRS signal? is that because their phones don't support GPRS?
Poetique said:
I guess this may be different for T-Mobile (and could possibly vary on the ROM you're using) but the E on my device is for EDGE service, and G is for 3G service. 3G, obviously, is the better of the two. But I'm on AT&T of course...
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And then H (HSDPA) just defeats them all.
One Icon to rule them all, One Icon to find them...
Nono
Poetique said:
I guess this may be different for T-Mobile (and could possibly vary on the ROM you're using) but the E on my device is for EDGE service, and G is for 3G service. 3G, obviously, is the better of the two. But I'm on AT&T of course...
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No no no, g is not 3g, G is GPRS, the slower version of EDGE, thats the reason why you can call in your basement now!
G is GPRS
E is EDGE
3G is UMTS
H is HPSDA
first is the slowest, last is the fastest, so if the fastest is not availible, it switches to a slower one, like happened in the TS situation
My icon used to pretty much always be on 3G, sometimes switching to E when I drove to my brothers house which is about 25 miles away. But recently I haven't been seeing 3G at all, but only H. I did see E a couple days ago, but I haven't seen 3G in more than a week now. I thought H was only supposed to show up when you were using a data network or something? At least that's what I read somewhere on here a while ago... Any explanations?
that H is wat you want to see
first H shows up when downloading data means you're using HSDPA, but is H shows up when u're not downloading data, you have HSUPA too
Ya, as XtreMe_G indicated this is easily answered by opening up the manual.
XtreMe_G said:
that H is wat you want to see
first H shows up when downloading data means you're using HSDPA, but is H shows up when u're not downloading data, you have HSUPA too
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Yeah, I know HSDPA is what I want to see the most, but when the hell did AT&T have HSUPA? I live in the Washington DC/Northern Virginia Metro area... Anyone else from the area noticing this?
And as for the OP's question about E and G, there is no difference between signal strength and ability to make voice calls. E just means that the cell offers Enhanced G.
Whether you see a G or and E (or 3g or H) is dictated by the data connection offered by the cell - which has no baring on voice at all.
If you have any signal, you should be able to make voice calls - the speed of the data connection (ie for web/email etc) is the only thing indicated by the Letter - except that 3g/H can also do simultaneous voice and data where G (and E) can't.
swiftgs said:
No no no, g is not 3g, G is GPRS, the slower version of EDGE, thats the reason why you can call in your basement now!
G is GPRS
E is EDGE
3G is UMTS
H is HPSDA
first is the slowest, last is the fastest, so if the fastest is not availible, it switches to a slower one, like happened in the TS situation
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That's what I thought, but then I tested my data connection speeds and when I'm supposedly on basic GPRS the speeds are much greater than anything either GPRS or EDGE could accomplish (unless EDGE was having a perfect day).
I did notice however that it only shows G instead of 3G when I force the phone NOT to use 3G while 3G is available in the area. If I allow it to use 3G service it shows up as "3G" and the speeds remain the same. As soon as I force it not to use "3G" it shows up as just "G" but the speeds stay the same.
"E" or EDGE always seems to be indicative of the correct speed. But for my device it switching between G & 3G are one in the same, and the speed doesn't change at all.
Could just be a glitch with the software on my phone, but that's how it is for me.
Exousia said:
Yeah, I know HSDPA is what I want to see the most, but when the hell did AT&T have HSUPA? I live in the Washington DC/Northern Virginia Metro area... Anyone else from the area noticing this?
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they are turning it on as we speak, i saw it somewhere but i cant find it right now....
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- except that 3g/H can also do simultaneous voice and data where G (and E) can't.
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Thanks for that.
That will be the reason that when I used a tomtom one and got traffic via my bluetooth phone, a traffic update would kill any call I was making.
I assume I am correct in also expecting my TyTn II to ignore voice calls (or drop gprs data connection) if I am using the TyTn II for internet access for my laptop and a voice call comes in?
I sometimes get the E but as far as i know we dont have Edge in t mobile UK.
how do you remove the G?
Exousia said:
My icon used to pretty much always be on 3G, sometimes switching to E when I drove to my brothers house which is about 25 miles away. But recently I haven't been seeing 3G at all, but only H. I did see E a couple days ago, but I haven't seen 3G in more than a week now. I thought H was only supposed to show up when you were using a data network or something? At least that's what I read somewhere on here a while ago... Any explanations?
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Same thing here in Baltimore. I have not seen my 3G icon in a while, only the H.
data speeds seem to be the same though.
My G Icon changes to E Icon
Hello,
I have a small problem...
First I will Switch ON my wizard. After Switch ON I will see a G Icon at top of the today screen ( That is correct ). When I press the power button, the screen goes off (i.e Goes to Sleep Mode ) and again I press it to wake up. but now the G icon will change to E icon.
I not understanding why this happens.........
Also when i connect to GPRS internet but it shows as I am connected to EDGE with E icon ( This happens on when I wakeup the device )
My probem is that why the icon should change when I wakeup the device.
To confirm you that, I have also disabled the "EnableDifferGprsEdgeIcon" setting in registry.
This problem will not occur in wm5 but only in wm6 or wm6.1.
In wm5 There is no E icon or it is not showing as "connected to EDGE" when I connect to GPRS internet.
Please any one help...............
Thanks in advance
Srikanth.K
Where Im located I dont get to use 3G very often so Im not very use to it...lol...so the other day when I went to my gym in another town in 3G coverage I was on the internet just a little and noticed it was faster...but it still had the E beside the antenna...so I was wondering if the phone is going to do anything different to indicate its using 3G other than just being faster?
Thanks! By the way Ive got a X2...
No if you are seeing E, that means you are getting EDGE reception, which is faster than G (GPRS) but still sigmificantly slower than if you see an H or 3G icon.
In summary, the speed classes are as follows:
G < E < 3G < H
A quick search on Wikipedia should clear up any more questions you may have.
Oh ok...thanks! What does H represent?
d_a_n_payne said:
Oh ok...thanks! What does H represent?
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H or HSDPA, here you go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
Hi,
i had an "H" symbol for HSDPA on my Desire. Now i have a Nexus one and i put on Froyo straight after buying it and the H Symbol is gone, there is only 3G.
Speeds are perfect so this is not a big issue but it would be fine to get my H back
Someone running Froyo and have the H Symbol?
Don't know if stock 2.1 on N1 had an H...
thanks in advance
Sorry for posting in a new thread, sure this question has been somewhere already but it is impossible to search for "H" or "3G" or "symbol" lol
No, there is no H on the stock FroYo. Don't worry about it. You're not missing anything.
It's only the icon missing, not the speed.
You want your H, you have to root.
i have root, where to get the H ? Please link, thank you!
c'mon.. rooting is the first thing to do after unpacking the device
ah: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687349&page=3 ? -> no.. cant find an H symbol there..
google search works omg..
Edit: ok no h for me without custom rom, thx