Hey All,
Soooo this is my first Motorola Android device and I have to say I'm quite excited, but nervous. Just recently I was using Verizon's thunderbolt, and I've always used HTC. Well, after my 2nd thunderbolt, it crapped out on me again. So, I complained to Verizon and in return they sent me a Bionic. After reading reviews I hear nothing but great things.
Now my issue, I don't know what to do. Usually with my HTC devices, I root and flash roms, enough said. But with this Bionic I dont know where to begin. Some folks say install the ICS .232 build (which not sure how to do) and some folks say root and flash a ROM on. (Also, not sure what all this safestrap/bootstrap stuff is)
In all honesty, I really want a newer android OS. I think I was using gingerbread with my Tbolt, and I know ICS is out now, and Jellybean.
My main concern in what I want, and I hope someone can direct me to the correct place. I really want a fast, stable, build/ROM. I would like for everything to work as far as apps, gps, bluetooth, camera, etc.
I really appreciate all who respond, and I apologize greatly in advance if this is a repost. I tried researching before posting.
Again, huge thanks to all who respond.
Follow this guide to get on the an ICS leak. Personally I would strongly recommend not going beyond the .232 ICS leak for now.
Follow this thread to get rooted.
Here's a link to everything you need to know about the bionic. http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...tstrapall-download-links-in-op-updated-daily/.
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Hey...
Thanks the responses. I'm just confused. Everyone is saying to put on the.232 build, but can I put a Rom over top of that? If so, what Rom do you recommend and why?
Is .232 stable? Any known issues?
shockaholick said:
Hey...
Thanks the responses. I'm just confused. Everyone is saying to put on the.232 build, but can I put a Rom over top of that? If so, what Rom do you recommend and why?
Is .232 stable? Any known issues?
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Yes you need to install the .232 leak in stock recovery. Then you need to root it and install safestrap, which is a recovery in which you can flash things. Once you have that installed, you need to boot into safestrap and make a backup of the nonsafe side. Safestrap works by partioning your system into a safe and nonsafe side. You are able to flash stuff on your safe side. So you need to toggle to your safe side and then you can flash a rom. I recommend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32349741#post32349741 but thats just me haha, theres a ton of other info in the different sections here http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/forum/68-droid-bionic/
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Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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Since everything I need to know is scattered across various threads and there is no specific information regarding my question AFAIK so I decided to post a new thread. Forgive a newb for being worried.
I've decided to root my N1 and am running the EPF24B European build. I just had some questions and concerns:
1. What ROM do you think is best? I think the majority of people like Cyanogen.
2. If I root my phone now and flash on Cyanogen, when Cyanogen releases a Froyo ROM how will I update? Does that happen through a dedicated app? OTA?
3. How do I keep all my current programs and settings? I've heard of Nandroid but have no idea what it does. I presume it has something to do with the NAND memory?
4. btw how stable is a rooted phone?
5. I've seen a number of guides here, but don't know whether or not they are the latest versions. Can anyone point me to a proper guide? Or are they all the same?
Thanks if anyone can answer this.
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you might get flamed for this or get this thread closed but i will try to help u.
1)while cyanogen is the best rom in my opinion, froyo is the ****. no matter what. and when cyanogen finally puts his touches on it, it will be even better.
3)no you cant keep them. u would have to be ROOTED first and then you can use titanium backup to make a backup or all your settings and freeze apps. til then, nope u have to completely wipe and start over again. i know when i switch from rom to rom, google automatically downloads the apps that i have had installed before i switch roms if that helps you any.
4)rooted phones are VERY stable and even faster than stock. more memory, runs smoother. the only one that might not run as smooth is the Desire Rom because of sense ui but i love sense ui and have it on my G1 but yes rooted phones are stable.
5)i have followed the instructions of this guide that was for macs tho. u have to be a bit specific if your on mac or pc
I'm using a PC.
And thanks for your input.
btw you didn't answer question 2. If I update to CM now, will I be able to update OTA when a Froyo version comes out?
Wondering why the bionic has a few roms out already and we dont? Do they have a fully working cwm? Am i missing something? Just curious. Thanks.
So far I've seen a deodexed stock rom and an early pre-alpha of CyanogenMod. What else has been posted for the Bionic?
The deodexed ROM is no different than stock for users and offers zero benefits.
The CM7 ROM was created by the lead CM team member of the Motorola Droid and Motorola Droid X (lots of experience with Motorola phones) and because he was donated a Droid Bionic. It's a completely useless ROM at this point as most of the hardware sensors do not work. It boots. Not much else.
Buy cpvcs a Droid 3, ship it to him and he will have a CM7 ROM booting on it within days of receiving it. It'll be just as useless as the Bionic's version....but it'll be there.
Give it time....it is going to be a while before a good solid/stable ROM is released.
First rule of XDA, don't ask for ETA's. If you want a custom ROM, nothing stopping you from trying to cook one your own.
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First rule of XDA, don't ask for ETA's. If you want a custom ROM, nothing stopping you from trying to cook one your own.
Edit, hit the thanks instead of quote, they really should move that button
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Where in my post does it ask for an eta???? I was asking why. Its a simple question.
heres the thing...waiting for CM7 will be worth the wait.. mmhmm.
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They can flash, they're using the same flashing method that the D2, DX are using with 2nd init and hijacking. Hashcode hasn't enabled flashing on the D3 recovery yet because he's trying to do something a little different and a little safer from what I understand. From his explanation over in the clockwork recovery thread in development he's working more on a dualboot flashing system where we would basically leave the stock system intact and run the custom rom off a different partition/folder. This would allow us to boot to the stock rom if something happens during the flash process on the custom rom. Since using the 2nd init and hijack and not having an unlocked bootloader, CWR gets loaded into the preinstall partition along with the hijack files, so there's a chance these can get overwrote while flashing if something goes wrong and potentially soft brick the phone.
Don't worry the D3 is the flag ship phone that won't go to much longer with out some kick ass roms. But it is some BS that the bionic is getting roms right off the bat, while we wait. But I would be happy to send a d3 to those guys... if it would help or will bionic development and hacks work for the d3 as well????
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Since when?
lordgodgeneral said:
First rule of XDA, don't ask for ETA's. If you want a custom ROM, nothing stopping you from trying to cook one your own.
Edit, hit the thanks instead of quote, they really should move that button
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Since when has their been rules on topics asking ETA's on this forum, or any other forum in general? I know it's taboo to ask questions that have already been answered in several posts, but there are several forums specifically about speculating the ETA of not only just devices or OTA leaks, but about the cooking of roms on freshly rooted phones as well. The question of this post is legit, especially for users without the experience that more knowledgable users like tcrew and you (lordgodgeneral) have contributed to answering a question ALOT of people in the droid 3 community are wanting to know. Glad this topic existed, helped me out..
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Because the bootloader is still locked. The Bionic will probably get unlocked slightly faster than the D3 because they have more developers working on it, but theyre so similar that i would expect the D3 to get an unlock the same day as the Bionic. Unless Motorola finally unlocks the bootloaders but who knows when that day will come...
Edit: there is an UNL3ASH3D rom now available for the bionic, i didnt think they could flash yet in CWM?
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It doesn't matter if the Bootloader is locked. It will probably never be unlocked.
Its been a rule since the devs on this particular forum specifically asked us not to ask for eta's. We have people cooking roms, were just waiting for our awesome version of CWM to be stable and safe to use. I'm as anxious as any of you, but don't hassle the devs that are working so hard to make our phones the best out there. Give them time.
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Until now I have been more or less bemused by the complaints that the Droid 3 was being somewhat neglected in the development community in favor of the Bionic, assuming that there was more than a little exaggeration of the progress on the Bionic vs D3. Now, however, I am beginning to wonder if the complaints may not have been somewhat justified. I know no one owes the D3 owners anything on the dev side, but to see the Bionic now able to use ROM Manager while I sit with a previously paid app that does nothing on my phone is admittedly frustrating. I keep reading posts saying that any Bionic developments will be followed rapidly by similar progress on D3, so I hope I can use ROM Manager on my phone in a few days.
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Until now I have been more or less bemused by the complaints that the Droid 3 was being somewhat neglected in the development community in favor of the Bionic, assuming that there was more than a little exaggeration of the progress on the Bionic vs D3. Now, however, I am beginning to wonder if the complaints may not have been somewhat justified. I know no one owes the D3 owners anything on the dev side, but to see the Bionic now able to use ROM Manager while I sit with a previously paid app that does nothing on my phone is admittedly frustrating. I keep reading posts saying that any Bionic developments will be followed rapidly by similar progress on D3, so I hope I can use ROM Manager on my phone in a few days.
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Droid 3 Bootstrap on Market: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.droid3.bootstrap and direct download: http://download.clockworkmod.com//test/Droid3Bootstrap.apk (ROM Manager support as well)
bam
If you have already purchased Rom Manager, just install it and have it install the custom recovery for you...
Edit: Maybe not.. it shows it installed CWR but I can't boot into it..
A large PayPal donation to the first flashable Rom!
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Rocinante said:
If you have already purchased Rom Manager, just install it and have it install the custom recovery for you...
Edit: Maybe not.. it shows it installed CWR but I can't boot into it..
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You have to use koush's bootstrap...
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Just curious, outside of no custom kernels nothing else has to be used from the stock system, correct? So custom roms with our 512 of ram will be more than enough.
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OK, I am a believer now. No more pathetic whining by me, at least for the next 5 minutes or so.
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You have to use koush's bootstrap...
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Yeah, I'm guessing there is a special way it boots into recovery with the custom app because I can't get Rom Manager to boot into recovery..
My buddy has a cappy and the poor soul is still running 2.1. Now that he no longer has a warranty on it, he wants to root and upgrade it.
My question isn't what's the best ROM because I understand that is highly subjective, but rather, what is the most stable ROM?
ICS on the HTC Inspire only recently hit mile stone release status and, while fairly stable prior to this, still had it's bugs. This was fine for me, but I don't want to bring my friend into this awesome world with a ****ty experience right off the bat plagued with random reboots, bootloops, or non working functions.
So what ROMs are rock solid stable and are good for daily drivers?
And like I said, I'm not looking for "I like this ROM" and I'm not trying to ask what is the best ROM. Only asking about stability.
Thanks guys
Still subjective...but my 2 cents --
Stability wise I would suggest that he upgrade to the Gingerbread 2.3.5 i897ucKK4 release, get Root and then Debloat it completely. Let him run that for a while. He will be pleasantly surprised i think, especially compared to eclair 2.1 that he has been running. Afterwards if he wants to move on to a Developer's Rom, then there are plenty of KK4 based Roms to choose from. He will just have to do some diggin in the Dev forum.
The other Roms ICS, JB, AOSP, CM, MIUI and those similar are very good...but still subjective to each individual user as to what is stable and fit for a daily driver, etc.
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Sounds good. I appreciate the reply.
I do have one last question though. As far as doing this, it looks like I just need to get him updated via the Samsung website updates and then use SuperOneClick for root. Is this correct?
I ask because holy crap are there a lot of traps to accidentally fall in to...
He could do the mini kies route to froyo then gb Or he/u could use the kk4 one click odin or heimdall with bootloaders and then get Root through the [Utility] KK4 Easy Root by Red_81 --- both of these u can find in my signature link below.
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The Heimdall followed by Easy Root seems the best way to go then (less steps). Thanks so much. I appreciate it.
Now to find that page with the drivers again.... lol (no need to post the link, I'll find it haha)
Here ya go, it was close by... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33577757
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That's not the page I was looking at before. lol
I was looking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858765 That and, of course, installing the SDK on his computer.
But after reading the Heimdall page and that post you pointed me to, it seems I was looking in the wrong direction. I know the SDK won't hurt anything though, so that is still getting put on there, if for no other reason than ADB. (I'm a fan of ADB. It's gotten me out of more than a few binds before.)
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Still subjective...but my 2 cents --
Stability wise I would suggest that he upgrade to the Gingerbread 2.3.5 i897ucKK4 release, get Root and then Debloat it completely. Let him run that for a while. He will be pleasantly surprised i think, especially compared to eclair 2.1 that he has been running. Afterwards if he wants to move on to a Developer's Rom, then there are plenty of KK4 based Roms to choose from. He will just have to do some diggin in the Dev forum.
The other Roms ICS, JB, AOSP, CM, MIUI and those similar are very good...but still subjective to each individual user as to what is stable and fit for a daily driver, etc.
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Completely agree with this. Your buddy will need to experience and learn a lot of stuff through this transition, therefor, making the jump to JB from Eclair could make a mess.
Although, once he reaches that point, I have to say that I've been very pleased with AOKP (now on milestone). I was quite hesitant to use it as my daily ROM cause I was so used to stability over tweaks with ROMs made by The Family and The Collective. I've been on it since JB was ported to our cappy and I'm seriously loving it! Can't imagine flashing anything else as my daily ROM unless it's as stable and that coming from a flash addict!
Anyway, hope the transition goes well!
Me too. We were gonna do it yesterday, but after the mayhem of my truck (took 4 hours to rotate TWO tires....), we decided that luck was not with us and decided against it lol. Hopefully I can get him to man up about it today.
Thanks for the help guys! Now to produce another convert... muahahahaha!
I would simply use the stable version of CM10.
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I would simply use the stable version of CM10.
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I believe CM10 is on nightly builds atm, therefor, bugs are meant to happen. Might not be the best idea for a first step into JB
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I believe CM10 is on nightly builds atm, therefor, bugs are meant to happen. Might not be the best idea for a first step into JB
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http://get.cm/?device=captivatemtd&type=stable
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http://get.cm/?device=captivatemtd&type=stable
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Well then, I stand corrected.
So I've pushed the ICS leak onto my Bionic (Build number 6.7.2-223) and after having it on there for a while, i'm looking to restore the phone since it's been slowed down really bad now. My question is, what would be the best thing to do? Should i go to Factory data reset and reset it that way? I'm aware that there's a build number that works that's ahead of mine (-232?). Should I upgrade to that? If so, should I just follow these http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771993 steps? Anyway, thanks for the help!
Edit: I do want to keep ICS on there. I'm not looking to restore it completely back to Stock.
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So I've pushed the ICS leak onto my Bionic (Build number 6.7.2-223) and after having it on there for a while, i'm looking to restore the phone since it's been slowed down really bad now. My question is, what would be the best thing to do? Should i go to Factory data reset and reset it that way? I'm aware that there's a build number that works that's ahead of mine (-232?). Should I upgrade to that? If so, should I just follow these http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771993 steps? Anyway, thanks for the help!
Edit: I do want to keep ICS on there. I'm not looking to restore it completely back to Stock.
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I'm not sure but are you aware that ICS .246 is the current software for the bionic (not a leak but an official build)? My suggestion would be to RSDlite the thing to the stock firmeware of .246. Then install SS 3.11 and make a partition and install a nice rom. As for rooting the motofail root works just fine on the ICS stock build.
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I'm not sure but are you aware that ICS .246 is the current software for the bionic (not a leak but an official build)? My suggestion would be to RSDlite the thing to the stock firmeware of .246. Then install SS 3.11 and make a partition and install a nice rom. As for rooting the motofail root works just fine on the ICS stock build.
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Hah yeah, I only found out last night. Okay, that all sounds logical. Only two questions are, what is SS 3.11, and what ROM would you suggest. Thanks for replying!
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Hah yeah, I only found out last night. Okay, that all sounds logical. Only two questions are, what is SS 3.11, and what ROM would you suggest. Thanks for replying!
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SS = Safe Strap version 3.11
As for Roms so far the fastest Jelly Bean Rom is Icarus, but it doesn't have all the frills of the newer Cyanogen mods. As for ICS Roms I like Blurry Maxx or Eclipse. Google search should find them. Also there are roms in the Bionic Development section of xda here you can browse and see what some of the features are. Good luck.
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SS = Safe Strap version 3.11
As for Roms so far the fastest Jelly Bean Rom is Icarus, but it doesn't have all the frills of the newer Cyanogen mods. As for ICS Roms I like Blurry Maxx or Eclipse. Google search should find them. Also there are roms in the Bionic Development section of xda here you can browse and see what some of the features are. Good luck.
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Personally I would go with Eclipse, they recently released v 1.3 that runs great (way better than stock). I tried BurryMaxx but its pretty overclocked so the battery drain is quite a bit more than eclipse. Honestly I don't think you really need the OC as long as you make sure to use task killer frequently enough. I tried AOKP and CM10 for the JB roms but neither of them were ready to be daily drivers, I had issues with phones not ringing/vibrating, screen of death, etc. (and of course the standard camera issues).
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I've got my Verizon SCH-1800 that I wanted to start using again.
Looking at it now, I'm on CM 9-20120511-NIGHTLY-p1c, which is 4.0.4
The kernel is 2.6.35.7-g8f42093, [email protected]#1
I've been reading around about new ROMs, etc but if I'm not mistaken, back when I rooted this processes were very particular about how to root this tablet and all I'm seeing is a lot of older threads. I guess I'm hoping someone can answer two simple questions for me:
- Is there a method of rooting that is the definitive way for this tablet?
- After so much time, is there a version of Android that is most stable for this aging tablet? ICS, JB?
Thank you if anyone can help, I appreciate it.
If you have CM9, then you have root access. As to stable or good rom's, you just have to read up on the different ones to see what sounds good to you. Then flash it. Don't like it? Try another.
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Ok, so from now on it's just a question of installing zips via recovery? I never have to go back to stock again like you once used to?
Something more must be needed because I can't even flash this CM ROM without problems: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032726
Recovery says it's a bad ZIP. But I got it from that link.