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What do you guys think, does our lowly HeroC have what it takes? Also, even if it does, do we have the devs left to get it going? Sorry...I'm all geeked up for the announcement tonight. Plus, I'm not due for an upgrade until March...eek!
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What do you think?
And, also.. please move this to the Q/A or General section.

Sorry. Will do once I'm on my pc. Not sure I can move it from xda app.
Also, I'm hoping for some official cm8 love or something along those lines.

Eventually!? At least I hope we do.

ubnub82 said:
Eventually!? At least I hope we do.
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If I can get the damn SDK to boot lol

I have faith! You got HC to boot.
dastin1015 said:
If I can get the damn SDK to boot lol
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dastin1015 said:
If I can get the damn SDK to boot lol
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That would be awesome if it did but i believe that you can do it seeing that you got other things working like HC and Sense 3.5.

I know this is in the wrong section. Anyone tell me how to move it to general? Just thought I would see who else was psyched for ICS like me.
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What do you think?
And, also.. please move this to the Q/A or General section.
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We probably have to wait till a low end device comes out running it, or it gets ported to a similar device, like we had to wait for the Pico. Only time will tell. . .

Jurellz said:
We probably have to wait till a low end device comes out running it, or it gets ported to a similar device, like we had to wait for the Pico. Only time will tell. . .
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Or source is released so CyanogenMod can work on it and CM9 is released...

dastin1015 said:
If I can get the damn SDK to boot lol
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Man i know you can get it to work You done some pretty amazing stuff on here and if you cant maybe you can get Jaybob to help you or something

with the navigation buttons at the bottom, it might be a little cramped. sure we can change the dpi to like 120 but my phone lags when i try to make everything smaller and fit more on the screen.

Or if the navigation buttons can be removed... who knows. Of course even cramped ICS would be great on our Heroes.

Im almost positive we will get some sort of port of ICS. Ever since froyo the companies have been saying that the hero simply can not handel the new updates because of minimal system requirements. However I red an article with a Q&A about ICS, and one of the questions was what are the minimal system requirements for ICS? The anser was none that i can think of right now. ICS is meant to bring Android tablets and phones toghether in developmental terms. Google is trying to unify android, rather than have phones rounning one type of android and tablets another. It has even been said that ICS will be available for older devices of up to one year old or so. But in closeing im prety optimistic about a port for the Hero, and probably sooner than latter.

Considering that our devs got the source now I'm sure were gona see ICS can't wait
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I downloaded the beta version of ICS for hero to see how it looks and feels it"s a little buggy it has some things that need to be worked out like not being able to pair with bluetooth device and bluetooth turning off completely and not being able to turn it back on again... Also when trying to turn on wifi hotspot the phone just hangs there saying turning on wifi screen I let it run for 5 minutes before I rebooted my phone... This rom is in early stages of devoplement and if and when the stuff that isn't working gets fixed I see this as my next rom of choice... Nice work jaybob on a job will done and a million thanks to you...

ubuntu on phones can be ported on touchpad?

So what you guys thinking?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoXpLUr5WB4

nikos5800 said:
So what you guys thinking?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoXpLUr5WB4
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if someone got this working for a touchpad, i would be willing to give up android and webos for this. i am actually a fan of webos and i wish it had better support. i am just a user and no dev, so in reality i am not a solution.

With most things android it will just require the right people and circumstances and it can happen. But the touchpad has had its issues with compatibility and not to short any of the devs here, it seems that there are fewer with touchpads than other devices so ya never know.

As soon as we get 13.04 fully working on the Touchpad (well, at least to a point where it is useable like the 12.10 now) then we can get Ubuntu for Phones. It's not so much the kernel because they're gonna fully open source Ubuntu for Phones by the end of this month so we only need to port the GUI over to the 13.04 base (which should be doable).
Though I'm not sure how useable it would be. I mean, it's targeted for 4-5 inch phones so will it be useable and not just a stretched lay-out like the old Android 2.3 tablets?

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As soon as we get 13.04 fully working on the Touchpad (well, at least to a point where it is useable like the 12.10 now) then we can get Ubuntu for Phones. It's not so much the kernel because they're gonna fully open source Ubuntu for Phones by the end of this month so we only need to port the GUI over to the 13.04 base (which should be doable).
Though I'm not sure how useable it would be. I mean, it's targeted for 4-5 inch phones so will it be useable and not just a stretched lay-out like the old Android 2.3 tablets?
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Considering that Shuttleworth announced ubuntu for tablets within the last couple days, I think we can be hopeful that a "tablet ubuntu" will end up on the touchpad a short time after it ends up on other android devices.

Basically, its as easy to build as CM.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/porting-ubuntu-touch-is-as-simple-as-building-cm/
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This can be done.
Pulled sources this morning and cross compiled. In the emulator everything works perfectly. Will have to to wait till the USPS brings me my new tablet in the next few days to be sure. But i think i can have something ready to go fairly soon.
I have done ports before with some success. you just gotta understand, getting it running and getting the hardware support are two very different things.
I will keep this page updated ad i get progress or crash and burn, Either way. Unless Divine_Madcat decides to close this thread as well.

theskymoves said:
Considering that Shuttleworth announced ubuntu for tablets within the last couple days, I think we can be hopeful that a "tablet ubuntu" will end up on the touchpad a short time after it ends up on other android devices.
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Yes, but when I posted that on February 10 there was no Ubuntu for Tablets yet. But indeed, now there is so it'll probably come to our Touchpad.

modem_over said:
This can be done.
Pulled sources this morning and cross compiled. In the emulator everything works perfectly. Will have to to wait till the USPS brings me my new tablet in the next few days to be sure. But i think i can have something ready to go fairly soon.
I have done ports before with some success. you just gotta understand, getting it running and getting the hardware support are two very different things.
I will keep this page updated ad i get progress or crash and burn, Either way. Unless Divine_Madcat decides to close this thread as well.
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Willing to test any alpha builds and such
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Its still a developer preview, I tried it on my nexus 7 and its cool and all but not groundbreaking yet.
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Waiting for cm10.1 for touchpad because I would love to give this a look.

Still working in this. Getting the partitioning changed on the Touchpad is a nightmare. I forgot how easy an emulator made some things.

modem_over said:
Still working in this. Getting the partitioning changed on the Touchpad is a nightmare. I forgot how easy an emulator made some things.
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Well if you do get a port working for the Touchpad please let me know. I am very interested in giving this a try.

modem_over said:
Still working in this. Getting the partitioning changed on the Touchpad is a nightmare. I forgot how easy an emulator made some things.
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Make a new thread once you are able to release something.

modem_over said:
Still working in this. Getting the partitioning changed on the Touchpad is a nightmare. I forgot how easy an emulator made some things.
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Did you see my scripts I made for the TouchpadBuntu project? Might be a good starting point. The install script had been verified good by many people though I think I left out a line on the uninstall script, if I remember correctly.

JesusFreak316 said:
Did you see my scripts I made for the TouchpadBuntu project? Might be a good starting point. The install script had been verified good by many people though I think I left out a line on the uninstall script, if I remember correctly.
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Most ov the content at https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/ is not super helpful at this point. The base for the Ubuntu touch system is CM10. The native ubuntuArm project is a much more pure version of the Ubuntu system than the Ubuntu touch system will ever be that it makes half of the files unusable.

modem_over said:
Most ov the content at https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/ is not super helpful at this point. The base for the Ubuntu touch system is CM10. The native ubuntuArm project is a much more pure version of the Ubuntu system than the Ubuntu touch system will ever be that it makes half of the files unusable.
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Exactly. I thought it was CM10.1 but the base of this is CM. It still will take effort to port, but it's not the same as other Ubuntu variants that have been releases for TP.
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modem_over said:
Most ov the content at https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/ is not super helpful at this point. The base for the Ubuntu touch system is CM10. The native ubuntuArm project is a much more pure version of the Ubuntu system than the Ubuntu touch system will ever be that it makes half of the files unusable.
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I just meant for the partitioning part that he was having trouble with. My scripts didn't have much to do with Ubuntu itself, more terminal commands run within WebOS to create the necessary partitions for Ubuntu. I think those might help still though, if someone wants to keep Android instead of replacing it with Ubuntu Touch.

JesusFreak316 said:
I just meant for the partitioning part that he was having trouble with. My scripts didn't have much to do with Ubuntu itself, more terminal commands run within WebOS to create the necessary partitions for Ubuntu. I think those might help still though, if someone wants to keep Android instead of replacing it with Ubuntu Touch.
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Yes, I have found that to be helpful. I think with that partitioning should be finished up tonight. Who knows. Class for the next few days than back to this project.
Thanks man.
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Yes, I have found that to be helpful. I think with that partitioning should be finished up tonight. Who knows. Class for the next few days than back to this project.
Thanks man.
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Looks like someone else has this going. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175277

Ubuntu for Tablets Build Out. Port now for touchpad

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess The sources for Nexus devices are out. Anyone fancy porting it to touchpad

Topic was seriously misleading.
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Do people honestly understand how difficult it was to get cm9 and cm10 on this device, let alone porting something completely different.
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blmvxer said:
Do people honestly understand how difficult it was to get cm9 and cm10 on this device, let alone porting something completely different.
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But there's already a full Ubuntu port for the Touchpad, can't be much harder to get the Tablet edition ported.

I ordered a HP touchopad from ebay this morning couse i am able to got the ubuntu Tablet build to work in my emulator and i just cant spend 400 on a nexus 10. Should work. the port will come.

If the port will come, that will be awesome.

Check here tomorrow:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting

that thing is just a demo version so far. i just had it on my nexus4 and its a nice proof of concept but far from everyday use.

k1l said:
that thing is just a demo version so far. i just had it on my nexus4 and its a nice proof of concept but far from everyday use.
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You don't have to post that in every topic. Just because it's a demo version doesn't mean it has no value to port to our Touchpad. We already have alpha's for CM, full Ubuntu, Slackware etc. so one alpha more with a real tablet interface is welcome.

Vistaus said:
You don't have to post that in every topic. Just because it's a demo version doesn't mean it has no value to port to our Touchpad. We already have alpha's for CM, full Ubuntu, Slackware etc. so one alpha more with a real tablet interface is welcome.
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I think he was more just warning that its not running great right now not trying to discourage development. I put it on my n4 to and it really is an awesome interface but still pretty laggy. I cant wait to see it ported though it would complement the touchpad perfectly

Topic /title is really MISSLEADING PLEASE CHANGE

Aaaaand those aren't sources. The source comes out tomorrow.

Justjusten said:
I think he was more just warning that its not running great right now not trying to discourage development. I put it on my n4 to and it really is an awesome interface but still pretty laggy. I cant wait to see it ported though it would complement the touchpad perfectly
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Yeah, but he posted it in multiple topics across this board and that I was referring to that it wasn't necessary to do that.
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Aaaaand those aren't sources. The source comes out tomorrow.
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Source is already out. Check Launchpad.

Porting to touchpad
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
heres what it says on website
You can find all the needed Android git repositories at http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb. This is basically a mirror of CyanogenMod 10.1, but containing only the needed low level services used by Android (e.g. no Dalvik at all).
As we're using CyanogenMod, we can easily take advantage of all the devices that are officially supported there.
It looks as though porting to our Touchpad should be very nearly cut and paste. Am I correct?

BigOnes69 said:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
heres what it says on website
You can find all the needed Android git repositories at http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb. This is basically a mirror of CyanogenMod 10.1, but containing only the needed low level services used by Android (e.g. no Dalvik at all).
As we're using CyanogenMod, we can easily take advantage of all the devices that are officially supported there.
It looks as though porting to our Touchpad should be very nearly cut and paste. Am I correct?
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Not always as easy as it seems, but we'll see.
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Vistaus said:
Yeah, but he posted it in multiple topics across this board and that I was referring to that it wasn't necessary to do that.
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Ok did you even try this Build yourself?
I did and it is a demo. Its not working properly when it comes to more than as sliding the Desktops or starting and closing apps. people get excited and think its a daily driver already. no its not, yet. its just a show of concept. We have alphas from CM running on our touchpad, BUT the CM OS behind that is not alpha. it is a well tested and running OS and that is a HUGE difference here.
Technically it uses the CM Basis and should run on every Device that is able to run CM and meets the minimum requirements mentioned here http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet/partner

Pulled sources this morning and cross compiled. In the emulator everything works perfectly. Will have to to wait till the USPS brings me my new tablet in the next few days to be sure. But i think i can have something ready to go fairly soon.
I have done ports before with some success. you just gotta understand, getting it running and getting the hardware support are two very different things.

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Pulled sources this morning and cross compiled. In the emulator everything works perfectly. Will have to to wait till the USPS brings me my new tablet in the next few days to be sure. But i think i can have something ready to go fairly soon.
I have done ports before with some success. you just gotta understand, getting it running and getting the hardware support are two very different things.
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Since Ubunto is using CM10 shouldnt the hardware components/drivers port from that?

BigOnes69 said:
Since Ubunto is using CM10 shouldnt the hardware components/drivers port from that?
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Still needs to be rewritten for our hardware, same reason why its difficult getting cm10.1 working on here.
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Vistaus said:
Yeah, but he posted it in multiple topics across this board and that I was referring to that it wasn't necessary to do that.
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Yeah, I realized that after posting. sorry

Ubuntu

Can anyone port the Ubuntu preview which has previously released?
Thanks
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It's not that easy.
We'll have to wait for Canonical to post their guide.
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I can, but why? It's useless at the moment, can't launch most apps. - Can't even change date. And it's laggy even on my Nexus 7 so why even try for the ace.
Anyway, I'll sure do it, once it's stabler.

PulseDroid said:
I can, but why? It's useless at the moment, can't launch most apps. - Can't even change date. And it's laggy even on my Nexus 7 so why even try for the ace.
Anyway, I'll sure do it, once it's stabler.
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I'm pretty sure you can't. As big time developers like Lloir can't even get it working on their custom devices which have the right ARM version.
Anyway, you can't just go around asking for ports. you'll have to do it yourself or be patient.

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I'm pretty sure you can't. As big time developers like Lloir can't even get it working on their custom devices which have the right ARM version.
Anyway, you can't just go around asking for ports. you'll have to do it yourself or be patient.
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If you say so.

Closing this before the bickering starts

nexus 7 art runtime please complain here

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?can=2&start=0&num=100&q=&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=62375

Having tried it on my Nexus 5 i cant see what all the fuss is about, yeah stuff opens a little quicker but its hardly life shattering.

wtf??
im using ART on my 2012 nexus 7 without issue. sure, a few apps donr work on ART(like pandora) but the device seems like it took a dose of speed. its fast without ART, but faster with. ART isnt available on the nexus 7(2012) stock img, but it is available for the nexus 7 on aosp builds.

MrBelter said:
Having tried it on my Nexus 5 i cant see what all the fuss is about, yeah stuff opens a little quicker but its hardly life shattering.
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I know that the reason it is not on here is because of I\O wear out on the flash memory.(Crappy chip)
This device can't handle the strain of ART.
I'm just a little irritated that google won't put it in the DEVELOPER!!!! options in there stock build.

simms22 said:
wtf??
im using ART on my 2012 nexus 7 without issue. sure, a few apps donr work on ART(like pandora) but the device seems like it took a dose of speed. its fast without ART, but faster with. ART isnt available on the nexus 7(2012) stock img, but it is available for the nexus 7 on aosp builds.
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I love that kernel
And thanks for the second link in your sig.
I dont want to load up another build though.
And geez. I would figure that google would put it in the for crying out loud developer options.
I like it completely stock.
I start from the ground up with modifying the build to my liking.
Thats why I'm a huge fan of Xposed Framework and the Arch Linux model.
Rant^

Why complain here? is anyone significant going read it.?

I think an explanation is what we need. Obviously it was a technical issue, but like every technical issue, Google leaves us in the dark and leaves us to speculate. I'd also like to know why we can't get a kernal higher than 3.1 when nvidia actually makes a 3.4 kernal too.
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Cor-master said:
I think an explanation is what we need. Obviously it was a technical issue, but like every technical issue, Google leaves us in the dark and leaves us to speculate. I'd also like to know why we can't get a kernal higher than 3.1 when nvidia actually makes a 3.4 kernal too.
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Then why post here? a developers forum of all places. if a problem if being had with google, go email em

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Then why post here? a developers forum of all places. if a problem if being had with google, go email em
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I really don't care that much. As far as I'm concerned my nexus 7 feels more like an antique these days and art or a new Kernal isn't going to magically make it a tegra 4 or give it another gig of ram. I was just replying to the topic that's all, wasn't my creation
More or less agreeing with the op. But I think he meant click on the original link and post your complaints there, not here
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